NYC bombing injures 29

| September 18, 2016

We mentioned yesterday an apparent bombing in New Jersey and a few hours later, a bomb went off in New York City injuring 29 people, according to Fox News;

De Blasio said the explosion had no known connection to terrorism and wasn’t related to a pipe bomb explosion at a charity run in New Jersey earlier Saturday.

“Tonight, New York City experienced a very bad incident,” de Blasio said at a news conference near the scene in Chelsea. “We have no credible and specific threat at this moment.”

The blast, which happened at around 8:30 p.m. on West 23rd Street, appeared to originate from a construction toolbox in front of a building, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. A garbage can was found mangled nearby.

Less than three hours after the explosion, investigators located a pressure cooker inside a plastic bag at West 27th Street that was attached to wiring and a cellphone, a law enforcment source told Fox News.

Whether it was Islamist or something else, it was clearly terrorist-related if it was a bomb, I don’t why they go out of their way to deny that it’s terrorism – there are other forces at work in this country besides jihadism.

Category: Terror War

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Hondo

Well, I guess I’ll rewrite the 10:30 story that’s queued up. (smile)

Hondo

(chuckling) De nada, amigo. Stuff happens.

sj

Dang Lutherans.

jonp

Those feisty Quakers have had enough. Time to get busy although the get away in the buggys takes some work.

DeBlabio is a piece of work. Just like that guy in MN asking people if they were Muslim and shouting Alluah Akbar before stabbing them had “no known ties to terrorism” neither did this one….ok…nice try…

desert

Yep Gov “Homo” is singing the same sad tune!

10thMountainMan

Pretty sure it was those tea-party nuts the news keeps warning me about.

Akpual

Amish for sure.

USAF E-5

When I first read the story denying it was a terrorist attack, my thought was: “They should read the definition of terrorism.”
Regardless of who did it, it’s effect will be felt.

B Woodman

Go ahead, DeBlahBlahBlah, bury your head in the sand. Makes your ass an easier target.

Bill M

But he can’t. It’s already stuck so far up his a**, he’s looking out through his tonsils.

The Other Whitey

Easy target? Hell, he’s surrounded by the weapons he denies regular New Yorkers access to. He’s one of those “more equal than others” animals.

OWB

The proper use of the language certainly would simplify things for everyone. Why the professional obfuscators continue to deliberately confuse clearly defined terms remains a mystery. It’s almost as if they prefer to lie when telling the truth would be easier.

Here’s a clue: The act itself defines what it is. Something done to terrorize others is an act of terrorism. Who does it is entirely irrelevant.

Oh, well. Sane Americans are sick of hearing the nonsense that the ruling class is foisting upon us.

Al Stout

Is there a reason why the term “Act of Terror” is not being used and “intentional act” is the new liberal term?

UpNorth

Because they couldn’t stretch it to “workplace violence”?

Ex-PH2

Because using the word ‘terror’ acknowledges that it has set up camp and they have no control over it, which TERRIBLE idea is a TERRIBLE burden to carry, as it may TERRIFY them in their sleep.

Silentium Est Aureum

Clearly there are other “terror” groups besides Islamists in the US and Europe, but damned if they aren’t by far the greatest perpetrators, both in the size and severity of the attacks.

Let’s face it–the left WANTS to place the blame on the Tea Party, right-wingers, etc., but they’ve been proven so wrong so many times every time they’ve opened their suck the last 15 years it’s almost tiresome now, and they’d rather not drop an accusation, lest they be wrong again.

And a JOBOX type of container? That sucker had the potential to do a HUGE amount of damage, had it been full or close to it, the durability of them notwithstanding.

Silentium Est Aureum

Size/severity, and sheer number–correction to my first comment.

And amazing how both Trump and Clinton jumped on the terror bandwagon almost immediately.

At least Clinton didn’t blame it on a YouTube video nobody has ever seen.

Hondo

At least Clinton didn’t blame it on a YouTube video nobody has ever seen.

Not this time, anyway.

Bill M

Or not yet.

Hondo

Yep. Even the smaller ones are 5-6 cubic feet – or more than 1/2 cubic meter.

Military-grade explosives weigh on the order of 1.5 grams per cubic centimeter. You do the math from there.

Silentium Est Aureum

Wouldn’t even have to be mil-grade.

Tannerite, anybody? All you’d need is either a blasting cap or a high-powered slug hitting it.

11B-Mailclerk

Idiots and maniacs are why the rest of us cant have nice stuff!

Ex-PH2

Why do they go out of their way to deny that it’s terrorism?

Several reasons: denying the reality of it means that they aren’t even close to as ‘SAFE’ as they pretend they are.

Denying the reality of a terrorist event means they have NO CONTROL over the people who do/did these things.

Denying the reality of it means they haven’t targeted a social group, which means no squalling group members on TV protesting their innocence and embarrassing the haters.

Denying the reality of the possibility of a terrorist event means that New Yawkers living in The City won’t move away and take their tax money and votes with them.

I can come up with other things, but you get the drift.

Unfortunately, denial of reality is a mental disorder. Mayor Deblasio is a nincompoop and a puppet of the libretards.

Everything is fine. Everything is just fine. Just maintain an even strain. Nothing is wrong….

Unfortunately, this State of Denial of Reality is coming to an end and may be very painful for people like that.

Casey

Remain calm. All is well.

Sparks

It’s important to this liberal administration to not label possibly misguided yoots as terrorists. It could be racist and hurt the feeling of our peace loving friends of Allah.

Dipshits anyway!

Perry Gaskill

Personally, I try to keep handy a copy of Spokesdouchenozzling: Tips for baffling the media.

Spokesnozzle: “So far we have seen no evidence this is a terrorist attack, or involves alien abductions, or that guy in Red Hook who stole all those Chicken McNuggets.”

Translation: “We have no idea why some loon would stick a bomb in a toolbox. You’re welcome to call back to see if we find out, but we’ll probably be in a meeting.”

A Proud Infidel®™

So who’s that candy-assed blueblood pisspants DeBlabbio wanting to accuse, The NRA? The Tea Party? Trump? Next we’ll likely hear him and B. Hussein 0bama apologize to daesh for us still being semi-free.

I never have to search for reasons to dislike or hate liberals, they deliver truckloads of them every day.

2/17 Air Cav

“To build a pressure-cooker bomb, terrorists surround….” So began a paragraph in the NY Post (2013) regarding pressure-cooker bombs. The article was accompanied by a nice illustration of the bomb and its components. Why?

GDContractor

In the ’90s, Popular Mechanics had a cover photo of an EMP cannon, and inside they had step by step instructions on how to build it. You can find reference to the article via google, but to my knowledge, the article itself has been disappeared. Makes it hard for kids nowadays to make cool science fair entries.

Silentium Est Aureum

Two words: Deep Web.

Ex-PH2

It used to be that you could find a hard-cover book on constructing an atomic bomb, complete with the fuses and the detonator in exploded view drawings, at the public library. That was back in the late 1950s or early 1960s, I think.

The atomic bomb was the 10-kiloton bomb used on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

At some point, the book was removed.

Silentium Est Aureum

Yeah, because anyone could get weapons-grade Uranium-235 or Plutonium-239 at the local drugstore, right next to the tube tester.

And simultaneous squib timers that would compress said fissile material? Over at the hardware shop.

Of course, back in my HS/college days, we made contact explosives and threw them at each other, checked out the cool stuff in The Anarchist’s Cookbook, stuff like that.

Semper Idem

Plutonium at the drugstore? I’m sure that in 1985 plutonium is available at every corner drugstore, but in 1955 it’s a little harder to come by.

;o)

26Limabeans

Ohio Blue Tip stick matches.
We used to shoot them out of BB guns.

Ex-PH2

Actually, it wasn’t hard to come by. Up until about 1960, red ceramic glazes contained uranium because it gave such a brilliant, true scarlet red, resembling the sang de boeuf (oxblood) glazes of the K’ang-Tsi porcelain made during the T’sing dynasty, when Chinese porcelain production was at its height.

At some point, because uranium added to a ceramics glaze was something that could be refined into fissionable material, it was removed from commercial glazes. A long time passed before the ceramics industry got the true reds back.

Semper Idem

Ex-PH2,

Actually, I was making a Back to the Future reference, where Doc Brown tells Marty McFly that getting plutonium for the DeLorean time machine is out of the question, and that Marty had better forget about going back to his home time. I was inspired by the ‘plutonium at the drugstore’ reference in SEA’s post.

Ex-PH2

I know, but it used to be that prescriptions were mixed by the pharmacist, not measured out as pills or tablets.

Things have changed a lot.

2/17 Air Cav

“I’ve been briefed by all relevant agencies. At this time there is no evidence of international terrorism connection with this incident,” [NY Governor] Cuomo said near the scene of the explosion….” NY Daily News

That’s a beauty right there. It’s an incident? Yes, it’s not an event or a bombing or a potentially deadly act of violence, and it’s certainly not an instance of an unsuccessful terrorist attack. It’s an incident, not unlike a subway closure or a bus accident. And there is no evidence that the incident is linked to international terrorism. Could be that one or more of us deplorables was making a political statement, I suppose. Last point. I would like to know what the irrelevant agencies have to say about this.

Ex-PH2

This is something that people like de Blasio and Cuomo can’t control. If they blow it off, then they don’t get headaches and high blood pressure from facing the fact that the people who do these things are something they can’t control.

By downplaying it as a mere incident or ‘not a terrorist act’, they can pretend to themselves that it is under their control somehow.

If they ever have to admit to being powerless — well, I’ll leave that to your imagination.

Jilly

Mall attack in MN also, 8 people stabbed:

“Anderson said the man reportedly made at least one reference to Allah and asked a victim if they were Muslim before attacking them. But he declined to call it an act of terrorism, saying the motive was still unknown.” WTF.

Semper Idem

Am I the only one here thinking that this attack was just a bunch of common thugs who just wanted to fuck shit up?

No one refers to drive-by shootings as terrorism. Why? Because there’s no terrorist motive; the shootings are just thugs being thugs.

How much ya’ wanna bet that this pipe bomb was just more of the same?

Ex-PH2

Am I the only one here thinking that the people who are in denial about the reality of these ‘incidents’ are mentally disturbed?

It really doesn’t matter who did these things. Ted Kaczynski worked alone, through the US mail. He was definitely a terrorist. Nichols and McVeigh were whack jobs wanting to ‘make a statement’. Those three were all labeled terorists.

Driveby shootings are gangbanger activity. They’re starting to occur on the interstates around Chicago at night, when the state troopers are scarcer. What if these gangbangers decide to stage an ‘accident’ to trap people and rob/kill them? That’s still a form of terrorism.

2/17 Air Cav

“It really doesn’t matter who did these things.” Sure it does.

Individual whack jobs who kill due to a real or imagined personal grievance commit their crime or crimes and do not appeal to others to do the same. Muslim and BLM terrorists are a different sort altogether. Their goal is to effect profound societal or governmental change through an ongoing program of indiscriminate or directed violence. Muslim terrorists are the most vile and intractable of all because they believe they are doing God’s will and encourage others to do violence in God’s name. Thus, it matters who does these things to ensure that everyone learns that these aren’t singular events but part and parcel to a grand scheme and the more we deny this, the more we speak of the Religion of Peace, the more we enable these sick bastards. Calling a spade a spade and Muslim terrorism Muslim terrorism helps prepare the world for the inevitable show down and, I hope, the wholesale annihilation of the terrorist states, appeasers, enablers, and sympathizers and, of course, the rat bastards themselves.

Ex-PH2

I understand your view on this, but I think if you had talked to either McVeigh or Nichols, you’d realize that they come from the same mindset.

They said, after being caught, that they wanted to ‘make a statement’, but did not define what they meant.

How does that differ from the muslim attitude? I don’t think it does. It’s the same warped sense that says ‘only I am right and I will kill anyone who disagrees with me’. I don’t see a whole lot of difference there.

Granted, the Unabomber was a crazy man with a defined goal. He was defined as an anarchist, among other things. He also struck by surprise.

Alinsky and Ayers were doing the same things in the 1970s, building pipe bombs with their Weather Underground group, while they warped the minds of the people who joined them. They were labeled terrorists and radicals.

My point is that these people all have a common core: some warped idealism that aims them at destroying a perceived enemy (anyone who disagrees with them) and in that respect, it doesn’t matter if they are home-grown radicalized terrorists in the 1969s/1970s like the Weather Underground or self-radicalising morons in 2016 getting their inspiration from a bunch of crackpots on the internet.

The goal is always the same: target anyone who disagrees with you, kill/damage/destroy them and theirs, and what they have if they won’t convert to your way of thinking, and replace them and their ‘system’ with yours.

How is there any real difference?

2/17 Air Cav

“How is there any real difference?”

Among the many differences is that Muslim terrorism is global in its scope and is taught to children as an appropriate, if not sacred, action to destroy the perceived enemies of Islam. McVeigh wanted revenge for, among other things, Waco, and wanted to punish the government. So he explained, anyway. His was not an act that prompted no one to follow him, in kind. He is dead and he will not hurt anyone again. Muslim terrorism is an altogether different beast. It is embedded in culture. It is rooted in religion. It is admired, it is emulated and it is repeated again and again and again. To you, there is little or no difference between a McVeigh and a Muslim terrorist. To me, there is no comparing the two but for the injury caused.

2/17 Air Cav

was not an act that prompted no one to follow him

That’s ugly. you get it, though.

Ex-PH2

Maybe my point wasn’t clear enough.

The common core is ideology.

Alinsky/Ayers had plenty of followers. Their goal was to destroy the ‘perceived enemies’ (the government) of the chaos they were trying to create. McVeigh, Nichols, those idiots last winter at the Oregon nature preserve, the three keg bombers in Chicago during the NATO conference 2012, Koresh, Jim Jones, gangbangers in Chicago — in short, people willing to kill anyone who does not knuckle under to them and their ideology — are all part and parcel of the same chaos movement as ISIS/Daesh/al Qaeda/Taliban.

That includes the muslim brotherhood, the radicals in southeast Asia, the crazy people who let sarin gas loose in a train in Japan, the IRA, any and all plane or transport hijackers since that kind of criminality started. It does not matter if it’s Joseph Stalin engaged in another of his pogroms, sending people to the gulags, or some Libyan bomber’s girlfriend carrying a bomb on board a PanAm plane, or daesh swarming into villages and slaughtering innocents. I see no difference between Mao Tse-Tung’s Red Gangs and Daesh. They were/are all murdering bastards with ‘SUBMIT OR DIE’ burned into their brains.

When you say McVeigh and Nichols had no followers, who do you think were those idiots in Oregon last winter, defying a government to end their takeover? There are more like them hiding in the woodwork, waiting for a chance to take over and run things their ideological way and if they succeed, but you won’t go along with them, you’re dead, too.

Islam/muslim is just a label with a different name for the same product.

And how is any of that different from radical islam? I don’t see any real difference, because they are all after the same thing: destroy the existing structure, slaughter ruthlessly anyone in their way, and establish their own codes. The name or label attached is meaningless when the behavior (Stalin/Pol Pot/Daesh) and the results (millions dead, hundreds of thousands dead) are the same.

A Proud Infidel®™

According to this article, Daesh supporters have been sounding off in support of the goat shits that did it. ALLAH PIG SHIT!!!

http://www.vocativ.com/360127/isis-supporters-rush-to-celebrate-nyc-explosion/

Silentium Est Aureum

Ya gotta love the Tumblr page some idiot made up.

Claims to have set off the bomb as protest of LGBT “oppression” but does it in probably one of the most gay-friendly neighborhoods in NYC, if not the East Coast.

Call me skeptical, but the folks are investigating, as they should.