Tim Kennedy takes ISIS threats seriously
Our buddy, MMA fighter and Army Ranger Tim Kennedy was told earlier this year that ISIS had put him on a “hit list”.
Kennedy called the terrorists “a bunch of impotent, feeble, pathetic killers that were just trying to be tough guys online. They were tough guys to the wrong dude.”
He said that after the FBI reached out to him to let him know that they were serious, but Kennedy said his experience has made him “desensitized.”
“They use fear as a weapon,” Kennedy said. “No, don’t fear them. It takes sixty of them to even play with one SF guy. Don’t fear ’em, don’t give ’em credit. Don’t call ’em ISIS, don’t call ’em ISIL. They’re Daesh (a name considered insulting by the group), and they do not deserve any recognition at all. This is the stance that every American should have.”
I’m sure that was on his mind the other day when he came home and found a strange car in his driveway;
According to a recent report by Fight State, a United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) sample collector ran into problems in the Kennedy neighborhood. After slowing pulling up to Kennedy’s driveway and parking his car, the USADA collector was greeted with the wrong end of a barrel.
That’s right! Kennedy, who serves in the United States Army when he’s not beating up Middleweight contenders inside the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Octagon, apparently pulled a gun on the USADA rep and demanded to know who he was. Looks like Kennedy is cleaning up the streets as USADA tries to clean up professional mixed martial arts (MMA).
According to all reports, Tim shared a laugh with the sample collector, but maybe folks would want to call ahead before they visit Tim again.
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He pulled a gun on someone parking on his driveway? I don’t supposed it occurred to him to ask the person to park on the street first before pointing a gun at him.
Sorry, JimV, but trespassing is trespassing in this country. I can’t say as I blame TK for doing that.
Gotta go with Ex’s thoughts for sure. Pull up in our driveway and expect the same thing! Approach a stranger in your own zone and not being a bit defensive can make you wish you were armed. Don’t imagine Jim V is going to have many supporters on this issue. In this day and age, I could give a RAT’S ASS less what people think about my playing it safe.
This ain’t Kansas any more Toto.
Hasn’t been Kansas since 2008.
I would say things changed on 9/11/2001. I know you don’t like the president, but our lives have been different regarding security and vigilance for the past 15 years.
Family and my safety before all other considerations. Everything else is of little concern to me, also, and I don’t care what others think. Those who are not vigilant, who do not take precautions to defend themselves, are frequently known as victims.
Well, Jim V, you should have been at my house when the census taker arrived in 2010. I bet that poor SOB is tsill talking about it and quit after leaving my house. (And, yes, I knew who he was and why he was at my house.)
Dammit, 2/17! No fair teasing us with that blurb. I’d like to hear the details.
DITTO that!
The details fairly escape me but I was loaded for bear that year, knowing a visit by the census taker was guaranteed b/c I had tossed the long form I had received. So, one day, a census fellow is in my house, talking with my wife. I believe my opening words were, “What the hell is he doing inside?” followed quickly by, “Get the hell out of my house!” He didn’t need to hear that twice and hit the door. Outside, I told him the number of people living there, that they were my family, and asked what other info he needed that he WASN’T going to get. The poor bastard caught it every which way from Sunday. It was pure ugly. I know that this will be hard to believe, but I was quite loud, demonstrative, and altogether nasty as shit–a real prick. That’s really about it except for my telling him to get the fuck off my property and telling him to report me to whomever the fuck he wanted to report me to. That was it and he was gone, as in walked away quickly and never heard from him or the census bureau again. My wife wasn’t happy but I was on a roll, still reeling from that SOB oBaMa’s victory and hating the world. That’s about it. I do not recall ever reaching for my front-door shotgun.
I have never received a census questionnaire in the mail or had a census taker come to the house. Seriously. In 70 I was overseas, but for all other years ending in zero, 80, 90, 00, 10, I was stateside. I don’t know how I have escaped the scrutiny of the government. Guess I lead a charmed life or whatever.
I got one interview a couple of years ago.
Shit wanted to know more info about me and every single person living in the house than I ever put on an SF-86 or any other background investigation.
Needless to say, Mrs. SEA and I tossed it, and when the Census Bureau called, we told them in no uncertain terms to jam it.
I had a frustrating experience during the 2010 census. The station I was working at was being torn down and rebuilt, so we had been moved into a rented house down the street. The house had a big (4’x10′) sign out front identifying it as the temporary fire station facility, plus the engine and other equipment parked outside in plain sight.
We get a knock on the door from a census taker. I open it, and she asks how many people live there. I tell her that nobody lives there, it’s a fire station, y’know, just like the great big sign out front the she had to look directly at as she approached the door says. She says, “Yeah, so how many people live here?”
I repeat, “Nobody. It’s a fire station.”
She says, “Okay. I just need to know how many people live here.”
Me: “Nobody. Nobody lives here. It’s a fire station, not a residence.”
Her: “So how many people live here?”
Me: “None. Zero. Nobody. Like I said, like the big sign out front says, it’s a fire station and nobody lives here!”
Her: “Can’t you just tell me how many people live here?”
Me: “Seriously? What part of ‘It’s a fire station and therefore nobody lives here’ do you not get?”
Her: “You don’t need to be rude. Just tell me how many people live here.”
Me: “Oh my GOD, are you SERIOUS right now? Did you not read the giant freakin’ sign next to the gate you walked through? Do you not see the big red fire engine parked RIGHT OVER THERE?”
Her: “This will be a lot easier if you could just tell me how many people live here.”
Me: “Jesus H. Christ.”
At that point I slammed the door in her face and informed my captain that we were dealing with high-level stupid. She kept ringing the doorbell until we got a call for a traffic collision, then chased us to the engine and tried to stop us from responding to keep asking the same retarded question.
You are one of those people bound and determined to be an asshole aren’t you? Seriously.
I worked for Commerce/US Census Bureau during the 2010 Census as an Operations Supervisor, and whatever drove you and others to be so utterly paranoid about the damned thing is beyond me.
The information gathered from the Census assist in determining congressional delegations, allocation of federal funding, and the demographics questions assist in many other areas. Your personal information will not be public until decades from now. Threatening some poor sap out there working what was a very temporary job, who was likely a resident of the very same area you live in by the way… Brilliant.
Trust me, we had our fair share of dumbass hires working for us, but we were able to fire them. People like you though, ignorant as fuck and I don’t mind saying it at all.
Let’s see… he has a price on his head from a terrorist group, unknown car pulls slowly into his driveway. Damn right he pulls a gun, better to be sure than to be dead.
This illustrates the difference between having a weapon and using it. USING it, is a dicey proposition. HAVING it, is never wrong. It’s just a good idea.
‘Tis a million times better to have a gun and not need it versus the vice versa.
First Rule of Gunfighting:
Have a gun.
And a backup.
Second Rule – cheat
Third Rule – If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
In Texas we can’t shoot them for merely trespassing but can display our weapon to emphasize the words “go away.”
You should see the ROEs here in the PRoM…
Just a thought JimV.
I don’t suppose it might occur to you that his worldview – based on very relevant personal experience – might be a little different because he’s a Special Forces Soldier known publicly to some very bad bad guys.
He didn’t react in the manner that he did out of ego, wannabe-toughguy-itis, etc.
Here’s the reason you’re wrong, JimV, and I won’t pull any punches about it.
I live in a quiet, peaceful neighborhood. When people come up on my front steps, they’d better have a good reason to do so, like one of my neighbors looking for her 8-year-old or something. That’s acceptable, and I know who my neighbors are.
So if you, a stranger, show up on my front steps, unannounced with no ID, and you try to pull my front door open, which happened a few weeks ago, I will not take it lightly. Period. I have the storm door locked for a good reason. You don’t get to walk in through my front door unless I damned well know who the hell you are.
That’s from 30+ years of living in Chicago where people will kick your door open to rob you, rape you or just shoot you, just because they can. It doesn’t make me, or anyone else, paranoid. It means we have some fucking common sense, which you seem to lack.
Any questions? I’ll probably outlive you.
Could have been opening the screen door to knock…
Storm door is not a screen door, it’s glass. And the inside door was not closed.
Everyone is a potential threat until proven otherwise. That’s just the way it is Jim.
I don’t suppose it occurred to the person in the car to call ahead and announce himself. But sure, blame the guy with documented death threats against him for reacting negatively to a trespasser.
These tests are done as no notice – kind of like a UA for the military is supposed to be. Depending on the sport you’re in, you may be required to keep the agency informed of your location at all times. Random UA’s are the standard – calling ahead would invalidate it. I’m not saying I disagree with what Tim did. Just that calling ahead would not work in this situation.
Discretion is the better part of valor, Jim.
And I’m guessing the collector left a few samples of his own.
The family rule around here is “In God we trust, all others keep your hands where I can see them.”
I’m not going to assume the person pulling into my driveway means me no harm. In fact, I will assume the exact opposite until the prove otherwise.
where’s your brain? are you even a combat vet? Tim Kennedy is on a daesh hit list. the second you let your guard down is when you die. he has zero reason to let his guard down.
Had a guy chase me home, stop in the roadway and come running down my driveway yelling at me. He was pissed because I asked him not to litter our neighborhood when he threw a cigarette butt out of his truck while waiting in line to pick up school kids as I was driving past in the MGB. Top was down and it almost landed in my car. I held the .357 at port arms and told him to not advance further and the police were on the way. He jumped into his truck and beat feet. The cops arrived, I explained, they tracked him down, a sergeant stopped by that night to report the guy was drunk at 3 in the afternoon. When he complained about my displaying the weapon, the copy told him he was lucky I didn’t shoot him under the circumstances. Unless there is an immediate threat, holding the weapon at port arms is better than pointing it at someone, that is unless that person is yelling, “alllah ‘Akbar” then waste the motherfucker immediately.
Chased you home? Anyone following me into my neighborhood gets to follow me immediately out of my neighborhood and straight to the nearest police station, unless they break off first. One of the first things they drummed into anyone with a security clearance. Had one guy (road rager) actually follow me all the way until he figured out where I had stopped, and then he took off. In the mean time, we’d gotten stopped at a train crossing, at which I got a complete description of him, his truck, and his license plate number. The cops paid him a visit at his home the next day. Scared the daylights out of him.
Yeah, can we stop using the Goddess Isis’s name in vain? She is a vengeful bitch, you know.
As much as the daeshers hate women, you’d think they’d have chosen something else.
And for what reason were these losers threatening Hunkalicious TK?
Not if she looks like Joanna Cameron. Try that for nostalgia.
That wasn’t on long as I recall.
I’m sticking with ISIS unless I am talking to a Muslim. Hell, oBaMa insisted on using ISIL. That was reason enough to go ISIS. And, by the looks of things, oBaMa lost that one, too.
OKay, then I will get some strawberries for supper tonight, light some candles, and sacrifice a wheel of brie and a crusty Italian and ask Isis (the goddess) to wreak havoc on those using her name in vain, since I’m too far away.
Simple to avoid misunderstandings. Pulling up to the home of a stranger? Toot your horn a couple of times and wave. Have a window half down before arriving. Call out “Hello!”, loudly. Wave again. Keep your hands visible.
Showing your tits is a real plus, even if it is a trick. Tits will one day be the death of me!
I tried that…unfortunate results
Were you the one showing or looking? Unfortunate maybe, but you are still alive!
That…made me snort coffee out of my nose!!!! Thanks jarhead.
Have a gun in your hand is one thing. lifting it and poiting at someone is another matter. Im betting the story got it wrong. I dont see a professional soldier “flagging” someone with a loaded weapon unless he had something else to go on. Otherwise there wouldnrt be a delivery guy in three states thatr would go near his house.
Also a former ranger should know that is a competent opponent was going after him driving up on his driveway isnt the route they would take.
If a pro goes after you, you never hear it coming.
“Have a gun in your hand is one thing. lifting it and poiting at someone is another matter. Im betting the story got it wrong. I dont see a professional soldier “flagging” someone with a loaded weapon unless he had something else to go on.”
He has had credible threats made against him. That’s more than enough reason to lift and point the weapon at an unannounced stranger on his property.
Not backing down from my assessment of this. He lives in a suburban nieghborhood not in a secure compound. Being on your toes is one thing putting a gun in someone’s face is another, especially if its on your driveway off a public street.
That the guy worked for the anti-doping agency gives me the suspicion that it was probably was an attempt to intimidate him. Knowing the bullshit promo that the MMA pulls sometimes the story could be complete bullshit.
Basically anyone who has served in the Military, especially special forces can use this as an excuse to put a gun in the face of anyone who pulls in their driveway.
A simple No Trespassing sign would surely clue a driver to honk BEFORE entering the driveway. AND….to expect a surprise once the home owners comes outside.
“He lives in a suburban nieghborhood (sic) not in a secure compound.” No, he doesn’t. He lives on a ranch, and his driveway is half a mile long.
“Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs.”
Eugene, if you can’t see my nose because there is a front sight in the way, that is NOT flagging. Flagging is negligent, the other is deliberate.
Have a nice day.
Correct. I wonder if there was any police involvement in this incident, if it happended at all.
Im also pretty sure that the USADA doesnt take too kindly Someone putting a glock in someones face.
Tim’s getting a bit long in the tooth, he hasnt won a fight in over 2 years and is 36 years old. Maybe he will get into the entertaiment side of things. (hes doing a movie) and be a warefare expert on a history channel show
When you look through the wars of this nation the National Guard usually speak their mind and does the right thing damn the consequences.
They are not career toy soldiers worried about their next precious promotion.
A Soldier acting like a Soldier. I like it. Semper Fi.
He doesn’t live in a neighborhood. He owns a ranch with a driveway thats half a mile long. If they aren’t invited then they shouldn’t be there.
Yeah that’s a bit different. The story makes me think of my neighborhood where I have next door neighbors 10 feet away. lol
Living on a Ranch is a big difference.
They are invited. In fact, to fight in the UFC, you have to sign an agreement that you can be tested for drugs at any time without any notice.
This incident may mean a change in the samples are taken, but there should be no doubt that the collector had been given permission to be there.
No, it doesn’t. If the collector had called ahead and said that he was on his way then sure.
Otherwise, Kennedy acted in the precisely correct manner.
The agreement you sign says the collector will not call ahead or make arrangements in order to prevent people from being able to prepare to cheat the test. That’s why the guy shows up unannounced.
By signing the agreement, Kennedy had given the collector permission to be on the property.
As I said, this case may be a catalyst for changes in the procedures such as a sticker on the car or something, but it is just factually wrong to say that the collector was not invited and had not right to be on the property.
I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. As above, family and self first.
“RLTW” I would not consider “asking someone to park on the street”. If they didn’t have good reason to be in my driveway they could drive the hell down the road, (as I watch to make sure they don’t stop). From my usual position of having a “gun’ in a holster, and another “gun” with barrel down, in my hand, it is but a short move to bring either to bear. I too, doubt that he had it “pointed” at someone. He did tell the Muzzies: “You can send whoever you want, as long as you don’t want them back.”.
If I understand the article, this agent showed up at TKs house for a urine sample? Since when did they get the authority to show up at a private residence for a specimen? I’d have pointed a gun at the man, too!
In this case, the authority comes from Tim Kennedy himself. In order to obtain a license to fight in the UFC, you have to give the doping body the ability to collect samples at any time.
The collector had the right and permission to be there.
Was Kennedy right or correct to be leery of an unknown person on the property? Sure. Did he act correctly? Yes.
So you have a situation where both men where doing what they had permission and right to do.
Neither man was wrong.
If you have a legitimate reason to fear for your life from murderers, then maybe it would be prudent to rethink being in a position for strangers to have public access to you, unannounced, on private property. No game, no title, no fame, no paycheck is worth it. He may be a badass, but the last time I checked, even MMA fighters aren’t bullet or bomb proof.
I’d imagine Mr Kennedy would see that as letting Daesh win, that he’s so scared of them he retired from MMA.
GC, I think I know you from a closed blog. Do you think, since Tk is under Death Treats that just maybe a call ahead might be a good idea.Is it possible that power of you must do as I say has gone to his head? Joe
People show up in my rural driveway unannounced and I don’t take it lightly. Living where I do, it takes the LEO’s a bit of time to arrive when called. “When seconds matter, the police are minutes (or more) away”.
People will ignore your “No Trespassing” signs anyway.
OFS
I grew up on a farm way out in the county with a long drive to any structure. Anyone could be heard coming up the drive. A quick look out a window showed it was either the Pastor coming for his usual or someone we didn’t know. In the latter event, one of the men folk, when I was still a .410 and .22 sized kid, always picked up the pump shotgun and went to the porch to “welcome” whomever it was. They had better have a damned good reason too. Salesmen, did not fair well and left post haste as did anyone else unless they looked the real “farmer” type and were asking for where County Road, such and so was. But the real folks from around there, even if unknown to us, knew the protocol. First, they were not alarmed by the shotgun and second, they exited their vehicle and offered a howdy and a name and stated their business. Even had a couple of the real deals, come at the right time and get invited in for dinner (that’s lunch for you non farmer folks).