What have you done for me lately?
OK, so Donald Trump is not a conservative. At least not as defined by the self-proclaimed pristine conservatives of the never Trump bunch. I get it. But, neither are they except for purposes of pontification. Answer some questions for me. What have those prima donnas – those annoying people with inflated views of their own talent or importance – done for me lately? What have they done for Americans lately other than look down their noses at the unwashed masses – us voters? During the past seven years, which conservative principle did they collectively stand on? For which ones were they ready to pay more than lip-service? Any? These boys and girls who swore they would fix things if we just put them in charge, learned to roll over quicker than you could chuck them a doggie treat or a bale of cash. Then they wonder aloud why any thinking American would be attracted to a non-politician who promises to secure our borders and right our sinking ship of trade allowing for some of those 94 million who are not in the workforce to possibly have work. Is that a foreign concept to the snoots? People wanting to work? Is it odd that Americans across the landscape of ideologies might be drawn to a man who is offering Americans a shot at restoration rather than fundamental transformation?
They did a few things for me I guess. They have caused me to refine the list of radio people to whom I will no longer listen – the self-absorbed bat crap crazy ones bordering mental illness or total implosion. Maybe they should just have one song in their bumper rotation, The Eve of Destruction.
The world is coming to an end so go to my sponsors and by a year’s worth of survival food, a solar generator and a freeze drying machine. The economy will never recover so go to my other sponsor and buy gold. Yes! Get it now before it is too late. They helped me identify the faces and voices that cause me to hit the mute button or switch the television channel. They have helped me to know the publications to avoid unless I need flooring for the bird cage. They have clearly pointed out for me (and anyone else whose paying attention) the Washington politicians who are wholly owned and answering not to the American people.
Trump is not a liberal either. Nor do I think you can call him a moderate. I do not think you can hang upon him a political ideology. He is a nationalist maybe or he is just a straight talking person that gives the snobocracy the vapors. And if I may ask, what is exactly wrong about putting American first? Unless of course you are an anti-American with a head full of progressive communist drivel. Or, you do not want a man in the Whitehouse who knows where the bodies are buried and how businesses in this country have to grease the right political palms. One who just might slow the flow of the money spigot?
The Speaker of the House will not endorse the presumptive nominee of his own party. He wants to buck the will of the majority of the Republican voters. That is quite interesting. I wonder how much his cash flow has been during his tour as our public servant and from whose reservoir. Now they are huddling in the dark corners around Sodom on the Potomac to discuss a third party run to keep Trump from winning the presidency. The Department of Justice is probably not going to indict Mrs. Clinton since they are very busy trying to force the state of North Carolina to allow grown men who think they are women to use the bathroom with little girls. So, she will be the nominee. A third party bid generated by the snobocracy will ensure a Clinton presidency, which to them means business as usual. Theirs not ours. Then those pure and pristine conservatives will have provided her the hammer with which she can drive home the last nails into the coffin of freedom. History and Americans will assign the correct level of responsibility.
The fight is on and I do not think it is a choice of the lesser of evils. The choice is between resuscitating our country or unplugging it from life support.
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I call it Mordor on the Potomac, but the sentiment is the same.
I prefer “The Great Whorehouse on the Potomac” myself.
Nailed it JD, although I’m gonna stick with the “Lesser of two evils.” notion a bit longer myself.
On one hand the simple fact that Trump has the Pampered Princes (and Princesses) on the Potomac in such a tizzy pleases me greatly. On the other hand… er, um – I was gonna say we really have no idea what a Trump Presidency might actually bring, but screw that.
“the simple fact that Trump has the Pampered Princes (and Princesses) on the Potomac in such a tizzy” is good enough.
‘flooring for the bird cage’ – ‘snobocracy’ — sometimes, JD, you are funnier than you know.
Good and to the point, but I do not think all hope is lost. Ryan has already said he’s out of it and we still have some months to go. So is the snobocracy actually going to be stupid enough to not support someone who might just be able to put things back on track?
If they ARE that stupid, they don’t deserve to continue their political existence, because they aren’t willing to listen to the people they pretend to represent any more. Maybe it’s time they were given the old heave-ho. Or past time.
What have they done for you lately? How much gun control legislation has made it through Congress in the last 7 years? That’s not much but it is something. From the sounds of it, you are mad because they didn’t do more. I’m not terribly happy about it either. That still doesn’t make it a good idea to vote for a guy that was pushing for those same gun control laws FOUR YEARS AGO. Congress didn’t eliminate the Affordable Care Act. That doesn’t make it a good idea to vote for the guy that wants to replace it with a single payer health plan. VA for everybody is a BAD idea.
Never Trump isn’t out there because candidate X lost. There are a bunch of us that simply cannot tell the difference between what we think Trump would do in office and what Clinton would do in office. We held our nose and voted for McCain. We held our nose and voted for Romney. Trump makes both of these guys look like the love children of Barry Goldwater and Reagan. You can vote for him if you want, but an authoritarian statist is still an authoritarian statist if he’s running as a Republican.
The difference between Trump and the others may well be that he has not held public office. In other words, he is offering words that may or may not translate into action. And, by the way, JD, he has changed the words and sentiments on a number of core issues a number of times, despite being a non-career politician. As for principle, in my view he has none. I mean, how else does one explain his giving money and sweet words to the very rats that gave us this mess we’re in over the years?Trump says he merely took advantahe of the laws, the rules and that’s precisely my point: a man of principle says, “I don’t care that the law permits me to do X. I do not approve of X so I will not do X. Right now,in my book, he just stinks a little less that Wide Load.
Word. I get it all the time. “How could you POSSIBLY vote for Trump?!” Simple. He isn’t HER.
But the real question is, is HER really a HER?
Dunno about that. Don’t care either. I’ll stick with HER as HER. Still couldn’t water-board me for a vote for… IT?
I could not agree more! Thank you for your service.
The fact that the GOP wants to undermine Trump as the party candidate tells me everything I need to know about the GOP, those running it, and those working for it. What frightens me is that I have no idea how far they will go to do that. But it is very clear in my mind that the will of the American people no longer plays any part in the actions of the political parties that rule — yes, RULE — this country.
It does. The Repubs in Washington and the Party Elite don’t care and never have cared what you, me or anyone thinks. They have told us that over and over first by bashing the Tea Party and then fighting Cruz tooth and nail followed by not listening to us for several elections and now this travesty. They have brought it on themselves.
All they can do now is invite him to Dallas or to Ford’s Theatre. He’s it, just as Wide Load (spit!) is it for the commie/marxist/progressive/dems. Ryan? Hey, he’s out? Next you’ll be saying that Kasich and Miss South Carolina are out, too. No way.
As for Trump, it is said that his not taking pac $ and telling the superpacs not to spend $ on his behalf has great appeal with many people. I guess a man of principle would want to hold true to that. Fat chance.
The day after Cruz and Kasich dropped out he said he would no longer be self funding.
The problem is that he was never “self funding” to begin with.
Trump never financed his own campaign. FEC papers show that he made a loan to his campaign, a loan which can and will be paid back with contributions.
The whole thing was a charade to garner support and for some, it worked.
That’s fine with me.
As long as Hitlary doesn’t win.
I would vote for almost anyone to keep her paws out of our treasury.
Pedro for President.
Hell, there was a time when I thought J Janos (long ago) could possibly be the potential alternative. Before he went bat-shit crazy and later besmirched a hero, the hero’s wife, his d’damn community of Quiet Professionals, and lost the respect of myself and millions. Yah. Pretty much down to a Douche and a C-word-sandwich. Sad.
We need Pat Paulson. Or Joe Walsh.
Trump is a liberal and those Republicans in office, at least the party elites, are not conservatives and will never be mistaken as such. Other than bashing everyone that doesn’t stand around chanting TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP as losers what is your point? That we should be good little obamabots on the right and vote for Trump because he has an R next to his name? Not much different that the Dems we have been making fun of for years who would put Attila The Hun into office is he had a D next to his.
Trump does not reflect any of my values on any issue. I’m having fun watching the Trumpers twist themselves into knots trying to explain away Trump hiring an ex-Goldman Sachs Partner and Business Associate of Soros to raise money for him after they bashed Cruz as “being bought and paid for by Wall Street and Goldman Sachs”. Where in the hell did they think trump borrowed all of that money to fund his businesses, aliens?
Unfortunately, whether we vote or not, we will have an impact on which candidate wins the presidency. Even if we sat out the election, the person that we would’ve voted for may not get our vote, but that’s one less vote counting against the other person.
I hold the Republicans, that sat home in the last two elections, in the same boat as the Democrats that voted for the current president.
Traditionally vote Republican, but don’t like the idea of a President Trump? Neither does Hillary, sit out the election so that she could win. Or, vote third party, thus still helping her out.
Traditionally vote Democrat, but don’t like the idea of a President Hillary? Neither does Trump, sit out the election so that he could win. Or, vote third party, thus still helping him out.
Trump may not be liberal, but he’s an egotistical asshole. Specifically, he’s an egotistical asshole who dazzles people with bullshit, has no respect for the Constitution, and only really cares about his own power and riches. In other words, he’s another flavor of Obama. He sucks. He admittedly sucks a bit less than Das Hildabeast or Bernie the freeze-dried commie with the fake “Vah-mawnt” accent. But he still sucks. Whichever way it goes, America is fucked for the next four years. It’s just a question of how we as a nation will get bent over, and which unnatural objects we’ll be violated with. I don’t want to vote for the lesser of multiple evils. I want to cast my vote for a real leader and patriot who means it when he/she swears the Oath. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of such candidates out there, but none will come to the forefront, thanks to the pseudo-parliamentary bullshit that our electoral system has been corrupted into. I say this as a registered Republican voter: none of us should give half a ratfuck who gets any party’s nomination. Go read the Constitution and tell me where it says that political parties get to dictate our available pool of candidates. The other day, a certain lurking asshole with an excessively-inflated idea of his own intellectual might argued with me that parliamentary systems are more representative. I called bullshit and went to bed. America is supposed to be governed by representatives elected by their constituents, and thus directly responsible to those same constituents, not ruled by parties. What is a political party if not a self-serving oligarchy? No matter how they start, parties, like labor unions, eventually become self-serving. Power corrupts, after all. And parties will do whatever it takes to keep the party in power, propping up or casting aside individual members as needed. They do not answer to the voters they claim to represent, as the party always has power, even when they’re the minority party. Opposing parties shitbag eachother in public while mutually maintaining the status quo behind closed doors. Parties… Read more »
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Yup I’ll sign my name on this. I was straining my limited brain trying to articulate exactly the same thing. Many thanks TOW. I’m 53, about as Republican as you are (it’s the closest fit although not without strained seams), and just once I’d like a candidate that I could stand behind and support. Not blind support like so many do, someone I actually believed in. I’ve never had that. I doubt that I will. My standards are higher than those of the willing candidates. The person that’s most qualified to hold the position of POTUS is too damn smart to subject themself to the electoral circus. And that’s where we all lose.
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“Vote for me, I suck less than the other guy” has never stirred much enthusiasm in me.
President Washington was distressed by political parties and warned of their tendency to gain and then maintain power at all cost and use that power to gain revenge on their opponents.
Here is a nice overview of Washington’s thoughts over 200 years ago that we are seeing being played out http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/31/george-washingtons-views-political-parties-america/?page=all
TOW for President.
Oh God, please no!
The biggest culprit, in all of this, is the electorate, the voter. Far too many people think this is a “fire and forget” operation, where they vote for someone, and that someone does our will. Our Founding Fathers didn’t want a political party system to settle in… But they also expected us, as the electorate, to be knee deep involve in our own governance at all levels.
They intended this to be a “guided missile” type of operation… We turn the lever, then we perpetually govern ourselves through them… Through continues pro-active action via communications with our representatives, our representatives continuously holding town halls, and we remain engaged through them.
But, the majority of the electorate go about their own lives after election day, with little to no supervision of those that they elected to represent them. Consequently, those we elect end up listening to those who do engage with them… special interest groups. Result? They don’t take us seriously until it’s election time. After that, they know that the vast majority of us will disengage and leave them to their own devices. If we were to get off our collective azzes and do what our Founding Fathers intended for us to do, those special interest groups would be kissing our asses, and not Congress’, and lobbying us, in hopes of getting us to get our representatives to do things a certain way.
We can’t completely blame the politicians that we elect for straying from what our Founding Fathers intended when we’ve failed to do what the Founding Fathers intended for us to do. We rule ourselves through our representatives, and even have the right to bear arms as one of the means to keep the government honest… As our Founding Fathers intended.
We’ve seen poling done on the people’s approval of the job the president and congress is doing. It’d be great if they had just as much poling done on the approval rating of the American people in this process.
We fell asleep at the wheel, we’re ultimately the ones that shoulder the blame.
Bolshevik Bernie and Spillage Shrillery. 💡
Trump seems to not hate American and does not want to destroy the country. That’s rare for most US politicians these days. He also has a backbone and doesn’t live the delusional fantasy land.
Sounds like a breath of fresh air after the past 8 years of American never, enemies first.
JD Pendry, I agree with what you are saying a 100 percent… the really odd thing to me is Romnycon and McFang and the jack ass from Wisconsin, act more like Dem’s while the Dem’s act like socialist.
There in a article in today’s Rj from Vegas and LA Times that was penned by a former head of Facebooks security.
Talking about how they and other internet providers put the hammer on anything that had to do with the rea party and like groups and that a lot of high up republicans knew about it to… No big surprise this rumor has been around since 2011-12 it seems the right has as a matter of protocol has gone out of there way to, not do anything to stop Obummer let alone investigate Bilirey, other groups have had to step up and do there work for them. It’s amazing after all of this Mcfain still doesn’t understand that we the voters are mad as hell because we put them there to stop the SOBs and his words were its all because they wouldn’t work with Obummer…. They still don’t understand the cause…. Absolutely Amazing
Ps if skippys penmanship is off I apologize I have a issue with my head and I can’t help it but I try
Thank U for another great read
PS pt 2 now the odds of me getting a visit from the IRS just went through the roof ?
You’re a hell of a lot more coherent than Lars.
I think that you may have misread the article concerning Facebook. The claim that Facebook stuffed conservative news was originally written on Gizmodo and cited unnamed sources.
http://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006
I have yet to see any statement from a named source confirming the allegations made in this story. I certainly haven’t seen anything from a “former head of security” who would have not had anything to do with the stories chosen to be trending by Facebook.
It may be that Facebook did suppress stories. It’s their company and they, like any media outlet, can run whatever stories they want.
I’m sure I could have but I’m going to stick to one of my guns on this one my better half is Canadian born French decent she woke up a few years ago to the way the game gets played a very close Friend of hers is a host trouble shooter for the Internet in Europe it seems the EU
folks have a lot to say about the way our web companies love to play game on the web I’m looking for a story from a reputable news paper and will post here is a link to one of the bost from the times.
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F05%2F08%2Fmagazine%2Fthe-aspiring-novelist-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html&h=zAQEVKNzzAQEFnvtdtJif5kAcRgMS-_MAIbtd6fj7nG20FA&enc=AZOuXNvNNqtebLno3Hf4ayBduMPVc2QDHEV6TdbYZ8PbuTmcnTw7K8RcPSTt6OV4hJTTXFfYxWJJI7Aca-DePFl_eAWGg8SyZax2iirRP6-ZKKEQsjoEImQrhdSCjtjAAu–NlLsVVRKBq0XvuToeHtdKNsBRu_dEde_MPKHQllq0-9wEQVnXpDFP42vVDYadDXUrAQwWkW1Xlud7dxI-iX1&s=1
I am not sure why you are bringing up Ben Rhodes as Rhodes never had anything to do with Facebook.
Your claim was that a former head of security for Facebook came out and said that Facebook was squashing conservative news.
As I said, the head of Security for Facebook would have nothing to do with content on the site. Secondly, I have yet to see any proof of your claim.
So, I should vote for a person who opposes everything that I stand for in order to prevent a person who opposes everything that I stand for from winning?
I just want a Pony…
According to the news, it’s either going to be a Clinton landslide or a Trump landslide.
So either my vote doesn’t matter or isn’t needed. I’m good with that.
I will be voting on the down ballot races.
My conscience is clear
I’m mystified by one thing that no one has mentioned at all. There are multiple poli parties in this country, but we only hear about the GOPers and the democraps. Those are the only two political parties that get any notice at all from the press. So who died and made the yellow journalists in this country some sort of bog-dwelling gods that they have the right to decide what parties exist?
This has been going on for far too long. No one has ever mentioned the WHIGs or other political parties, and an independent who does not curry favor with those others gets thrown by the wayside. This rut has become entrenched since the day that Andrew Jackson was labeled a jackass by the press and took the donkey as his party’s symbol.
So who died and made the press the gods of politics?
Maybe it’s time we kicked the doors open and took the press and their cronies to task over it. I hold them to blame for a lot of crap that’s happened, especially the Clintons and bodaprez.
Here’s a history of political parties in this country from Day One:
http://flhspatterson.pbworks.com/f/politicalparties%5B1%5D.htm
How on earth is Trump a “straight talking person” when he constantly reverses himself on virtually all of his stated positions? Being tactless and obnoxious doesn’t equal “straight talk”.
I understand why people are sick of the GOP and I agree with them on that, but putting your faith in a loudmouthed buffoon like Trump, who was a pal of the Clintons before it was politically advantageous for him not to be, is a mistake. The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend, and you can’t expect fidelity to constitutional principles from a man with absolutely no principles of his own. I will vote on local elections and nothing else. When a worthy candidate runs, I’ll support him. I’m through with voting for the lesser evil.
radar. I cannot dissuade you, but I will say to you what I sometimes forget. There is no question but that one Sup Ct seat will be filled by the next president. It is quite likely there will be be two and possibly a third. There is also no question but that if Clinton gets to fill that seat or those seats, the Constitution–or what’s left of it–will look like more Swiss cheese. At least with Trump, there is hope that he won’t nominate marxist/commie/progressive agenda-driven, activist SOB lawyers. That’s reason enogh to vote and to vote for him, at least in my book.
While I agree with you on the SCOTUS appointments, I am unsure that Trump appointees would be any different than that of Clinton’s.
Depending on the day of the week, Trump is against the 2nd Amendment.
He has said that he is for restriction on protected speech.
He has said that he will finance the “yuuge wall” between the US and Mexico by snooping on the legal financial transactions between individuals.
Most conservatives hate the Kelo decision, yet Trump applauds it.
Trump’s view of the Constitution (assuming that he has ever read it) is that he will use it to serve his interests, and not use it a a document restricting government. He won’t seek to use it to protect rights of people.
From my vantage point, the only difference between Trump and Hillary is that Trump has better hair.
I don’t think Trump has ever sat down and read the Constitution, I’m sorry to say. He’s a pragmatist, a utilitarian, and if it reading it would have helped him in some business venture, then I have no doubt that he would have. Still, Clinton, is a known danger to appoint a liberal, activist justice. Trump? Not so much.
I am not sure why anyone would think that Trump would not appoint an activist Justice.
Trump would nominate a Justice who would support Trump’s positions that are all over the place.
While I suppose there is something to be said for supporting the unknown (Trump) over the known (Hillary) in my mind there is no difference between the two.
Both are left leaning, hate middle America, prey on the lack of informed voters, talk out of both sides of their mouths, and are beholding more to corporate interests than to Americans.
Trump has a history of bullying people, towns and companies because he has the money (which was given to him) to do so.
Trump and Hillary are both frauds of the worse kind.
Hey, I just came from the polls where I cast the most important vote I will this year–for nominees of some local and two state offices. Then I agreed to be exit polled–and lied in answer to every question asked. Anything I can do to embarrass media stupid enough to rely on exit polls. You’re welcome.
There is nothing in the Constitution about the right to privacy. It is a creation of the Supreme Court which discovered that there are a group of rights that may be implied from others expressed in the Constitution. They are among the penumbra of rights that the Founding Fathers would have included, presumably, if they had given more consideration to rights. But I guess they just didn’t give much consideration to matters such as contraception back then, just as they didn’t concern themselves with gay marriage or dictating what citizens had to purchase lest we incur the wrath of government. These are our gifts from the Supreme Court, an unelected body of lawyers who long ago took it upon themselves to declare laws to be unconstitutional or not. Their number is not fixed. There may be three or 133 justices. They serve for life and are unanswerable to the people directly or, unless one commits a grievous offense or goes nuts, indirectly. The Supreme Court is, in many ways, the most powerful element of government. It can trump Congress, the president, lesser courts, and the people’s voice made clear through referenda. These things it has done many times, and yet how many of us can name the members of the court? Hell, most Americans probably can’t name the vice president. So, our high degree of collective stupid or apathy is really to blame, but that’s another matter. What matters right now is that Supreme Court. The next president will nominate Justice Scalia’s replacement. And that may not be all. Ginsburg is 83. Kennedy will be 80 in a few months. Breyer is pushing 78, and, as for the rest, neither cancer nor buses care about the age of the person they strike. So, while we talk about this and that regarding the upcoming presidential election, remember the Supreme Court and the impact the next president will surely have on it and, by extension, all of us through the court’s future decisions.
SCOTUS is indeed the most important part of this equation, Hillary Clinton will surely change the face of the court.
When you think about what Hillary will do for the US in terms of SCOTUS, perhaps a choice of who to vote for becomes clearer.
Sitting home and doing nothing is still voting. As you say apathy is a vote for the status quo, it always has been and always will be. Doing nothing and pretending it’s making a statement is still doing nothing and expecting change. Doing nothing has never created change anywhere at any time, it only fosters the status quo.
You just nailed the reason why Congress is more important than the President – even if she’s elected, she can only propose justices – the Senate can Bork any of them.
Except for that BS “elections have consequences” which the Rs use to rubber stamp a D president’s appointment. It’s just another way for the senate critters to ignore their responsibilities to the Peoples.
Well, Webb Hubbell’s daughter, Chelsea Clinton had this to say about her wonderful mom and the SCOTUS, “So, if you listen to Moms Demand Action and the Brady Campaign and the major efforts pushing for smart, sensible and enforceable gun control across our country, disclosure, have endorsed my mom, they say they believe the next time the Court rules on gun control, it will make a definitive ruling,” Clinton continued.
“So it matters to me that my mom is the only person running for president who not only constantly makes that connection but also has a strong record on gun control and standing up to the [National Rifle Association].”
Get that, she’ll take her marching orders from Moms Demand, the Brady campaign and people like Bloomberg, Gabby Giffords and her asshole husband.
I do tend to take people like Hillzy and liberals at their word.
JD, well said. I held off responding until today because I wanted to see how others responded. As you may know, I’m the one who has written most of the pro-Trump articles here, not particularly because I’m enamored of the guy but rather for the simple reason that I’m very fearful of the consequences for our country if the Democrats win.
Like you, I am trying to make those purists who are adamant they’ll never support Trump understand those consequences, and as you can see, many of them are hell-bent on casting a vote for Hillary, which is exactly what not voting for Trump is in reality as is not voting at all. You can lead a horse to water but…
What some Americans never grasp about our method of governance is that it was forged by compromise, with pragmatism ultimately winning out over ideological purity. Those precious rights in that Bill of Rights are the greatest example of the bargaining that went into the creation of our governing document.
We all should have learned by now that in this representative democracy the process, like sausage making,(yes I know I’m mixing livestock metaphors) isn’t pretty but the end result can make a pretty good meal for those hungry for freedom. But just like in sausage making, lots of different things go into that grinder and some of them are downright repulsive.
And that’s what we’re doing right now, making the sausage of democracy and this time around there simply aren’t any good cuts to go in the grinder. However, what we absolutely must do is make sure there are more of our pragmatic Republican cuts in the mix because if not, we’re going to all be choking on poisonous, socialist sausage for a long, long time.
Purists are the bane of political parties, they are the people who have no real understanding of what it takes to govern.
It makes them sleep better at night maybe, but it changes nothing.
I just tell them if they don’t want to vote for Trump don’t fucking complain when Hillary wins and the SCOTUS becomes ever more liberally activist.
Trump is often a blustering carnival barker. Assholes like Paul Ryan think they’re spouting some grandiose “principal” by not supporting the presumptive nominee…what principal is served by ignoring the masses of voters who chose the candidate, often choosing that candidate in spite of what the leaders of the party wanted or suggested.
There is a message in the ascendancy of Trump, republican leadership doesn’t have to like that message but they certainly ignore the message at their own peril.
The Tea Party republicans can’t understand why their mandate collapsed so quickly, what they never actually understood was very simple. There was never a mandate, there was simply a repudiation of Obama. The two are not related. Repudiating Obama isn’t endorsing the Tea Party option or any of Paul Ryan’s austerity vision. It’s simply letting DC know that Obama’s path wasn’t going to continue. Now the people are letting the republicans know exactly what kind of person represents the future they want.
Secure borders, more jobs, and better lives in the good ‘ole USA…nationalist might be a closer approximation than not, but to the average working class guy Trump at least represents somebody in tune with their own vision of what makes the US great, opportunity. The chance at a better life through a good job that allows for home purchases and college payments and not a life of struggling on Walmart wages to live week to week….
But hey republicans, go ahead and have your purist vision just remember to enjoy having the first woman president when you do.
Frankly, I would rather have the country go down with a liberal at the helm than a RINO at that helm.
Your opinion may vary.
As for Ryan, while people keep harping on him not supporting Trump, Ryan has said that he will support Trump based upon Trumps statements and consistency of positions.
We know Trump can talk. We also know he isn’t consistent.
As for governing, please tell me when Trump has ever governed anything? Trump won’t be able to fire members of Congress and he doesn’t understand that.
He isn’t running for king like he thinks he is.
I cannot find one position with which Trump has maintained a consistent position within the Constitution and the laws of the land. Not a one.
Apparently Trump supporters are happy to vote for a guy who cares about them the same way that Hillary cares about them.
BTW – I read today that Trump was considering Arpaio for head of DHS. That is all you need to know about Trump right there.
“He isn’t running for king like he thinks he is.” After what will be eight years of that POS oBaMa and congressional collusion and appeasement–with only feigned tension bewteen the branches–I don’t blame him for thinking he’ll be king or emperor. He’ll have a phone and a pen, too. He’ll have the ability to do with regs what should be law passed by Congress. He’ll have the power to declare certain laws unconstitutional and ignore them. Others he will direct the AG not to enforce. And, of course, as he does X, he will nave the ability to say, “No, I am against Y.” In other words, he’ll just follow Baracka’s lead.
Here’s my take on Hillary v Trump:
I believe I know pretty well what to expect with Hillary.
Hillary will appoint liberals to the Supreme Court to do the bidding of the Leftist Nuts.
Trump? Whatever he does, can it possibly be any worse than what I know Hillary will do? I don’t think so.
And, please, don’t give me a song and dance about I don’t ‘know’ what Hillary will do. I believe her words and her leftist leanings speak well for the outcome I expect. Does anyone honestly think Hillary will not attempt to pack the Supreme Court with Leftists who will act in concert with the Leftist Democrat Party? Yeah, me either.
So, feel free to take the high ground about not voting because he/she is blowing smoke and isn’t a true conservative/liberal/whatever.
Think things can’t get worse under Hillary and don’t care enough for Trump to vote for him? Then sit out the election.
For anyone who dislikes Trump’s flipflopping and switching, name one politician who has NOT done that – ever.
The difference would be why the flip flop and the timing of the flip flop..
Trump flips on a daily basis, often denying what he said before. To me, that is a problem. You may find it attractive in a candidate.
Ted Cruz, a man elected to the senate to fight and uphold the constitution. He did just that. Prior to that, he fought in the supreme Court for constitutional adherence and conservatism. Sadly, trump and his bought and payed for politicians painted him as “creepy” and screamed liar every time he pointed out trumps own actual words. Instead of an honest man of conviction, we get the next man who fancies himself a king.
Well, Carver, if it’s consistency that floats your boat you should be thrilled with the consistent diet of socialism/communism that Comrade Hillary is going to be force feeding you beginning in January. Have you ever reviewed that woman’s early years? She was a Black Panther loving communist who worked for one of the openly communist law firms in America.
Hey Carver, leopards…spots?
And you think Trump is an equal threat? You don’t have to cast a vote for Trump; cast your vote against Hillary.
Trump has been a clinton donor for years. What will trump do different than hillary? Both wish to expand the power of the executive branch while limiting personal liberty. What difference does it make what group the newly elected king favors? I will vote for liberty, i will never vote for a tyrant wanna be, no matter what party identifier is next to their name. I will not vote for trump, i will vote against hillary and trump. I will cast my vote for john McAfee or Gary Johnson, and sit back and laugh at all the mindless morons that put hillary and trump as the main choices this fall
OK, Smitty, I’m trying to keep this clean but now you’re calling me a mindless moron because I will vote to keep Hillary out of office.
And let me tell you, as someone who lived many years in New Mexico and is very familiar with that stoned joke of a perennial candidate, Gary Johnson, anyone who would even consider throwing their vote away on him has no business calling anyone a moron.
As I’ve said here before, if you want to keep your guns then you damned well better suck it up and vote against Hillary because she’s already said she likes the Australian process of voluntary gun surrender under threat of confiscation.
Now are you going to tell me you honestly believe Trump will take your guns?
Ronald Reagan was in his 50s when he saw the light and became a Republican. He had been a union guy and a supporter of FDR and the New Deal. So, occasionally, a leopard can change its spots, I suppose. H. “Wide Load” Clinton will not become a Republican or a conservative. She will remain the Bitch of Benghazi and the unindicted felon–until the indictment and conviction occur, that is. I call her the commie-lite to distinguish her from Bernie the OCB (Old Commie Bastard.) She fit well in the oBaMa administration. She fit well as a NY Senator. She would love to be the next president and wield the power she so desperately desires. She’s a liar. She’s a manipulator. She’s an all ’round dirtbag. And yet at the Dem party’s convention, we will hear, “Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States (deafening applause here) Hillary Rodham Clinton!” Now, I have to go puke.
I guess I’ll be one of those people who claim trump is no conservative. I’ll even go as far as to say there is no difference in his politics from hillary’s. He goes farther left than she does, on that he openly supports a nationalized single payer health care system, and hillary wants to stick with Obama care. Both of them want to expand federal power at the expense of personal freedom and liberty. They may want the consolidated executive power to benefit their own goals, but it doesnt change the result of government expansion.
I think you’re right about Trump not being a conservative.
Without meaning any disrespect to you and the millions who think like you, there’s a message here if you care to learn it.
You might not care to learn it and that’s certainly your right, but conservatives and the path they’re on no longer leads to the White House. The republicans haven’t elected a true conservative in a very, very long time. Even the much adored Reagan wasn’t in any way shape or form any sort of fiscal conservative…much is made about him switching from Democrat to Republican, but the truth is many of the New Deal big spending aspects of his world view never left him. If anyone thinks Reagan brought any sort of fiscal responsibility to the table they haven’t looked at the honest record any more than Democrats who try and explain how Clinton ran a surplus despite 8 years of increasing debt loads…
Ted Cruz is a liar, he’s also a crank who proved he can’t work in any sort of bipartisan fashion. Like it or not Republicans haven’t had anything approaching a super majority in Congress in almost a century, which means they will always have to be able to work in a bipartisan fashion to move their agenda forward. Ted Cruz could never do that..I don’t know that Trump can either.
I agree Trump is also a full of shit lying blowhard, but he’s still better than Hillary who is a criminal class of liar.
Vote or don’t vote, do what you think is right but don’t pretend casting a vote for some jagoff 3rd party isn’t a vote for Hillary because it is and consequently, you will be one of the reasons Hillary becomes president in that scenario.
Vote for Pedro? Popcorn anyone?
That’s so racist! Everyone knows Mexicans don’t eat popcorn. ..
What?? I thought EVERBODY loved popcorn. WTF?
Do you know how to tell the difference between a Paulbot and a Trumpster? Yeah… Me either. Both are obnoxious assholes who ignore reality and bray about their “chosen one”, denigrating anyone who is running against him. I see all these comments about SCOTUS and concerns for the appointment of the next, or next few, members of that club. Yet the ONE candidate that would have been guaranteed to appoint a Constitutional conservative to the SCOTUS was shouted down by these assholes, and, for the past six months, they verbally assaulted anyone who questioned Trumps qualifications or motivation. You want a guy who sounds like drunk 8 year old with roadkill on his head and Tourette Syndrome to be POTUS? have at it. Don’t hold your breath waiting for help from those ” annoying people with inflated views of their own talent or importance.” You chose this sideshow freak. If you want to find the person who’s to blame for “President Hillary” I suggest you find a mirror and enjoy the view.
Back when he was a sideshow freak and everyone was laughing at his candidacy nobody thought to point out all the faults. Certainly not the wildly brilliant constitutional scholar Cruz, or the equally bright Rubio or Bush or however many other people couldn’t connect the dots with the people.
If the Republican party had any sense of unity Trump wouldn’t be the guy, but 16 other people also thought their message was the best one in spite of the simple arithmetic that no one in any poll was giving most of those people the time of day. Did anyone from the Rubio/Kasich/Cruz group do anything to engage those people and bring their support into the fold? Of course not, they all kept bickering like little bitches…
16 separate camps fighting each other like the sunnis and shias and now they are all super fucking surprised that camp 17 is the winner…and still like little bitches they cry and whine that it seems unfair…some going so far as to say they won’t honor a pledge they put in place to force Trump to knuckle under when one of the 16 won the nomination…in the ultimate hypocrisy and perhaps explaining why he will never again hold public office Jeb Bush said he won’t support the nominee but he was one of the assholes pressing for the stupid support the nominee signed pledge…
When those 16 people could have become 3 or 4 well organized groups to place the so called one true conservative candidate into place they chose another path. Now they are reaping the benefits of that path.
I suspect a great many people won’t vote for Trump based on what emotion you’re expressing here as well.
If I were a Hillary supporter I’d be really happy right now at just how fractured and broken my opponent’s party is at the moment.
What we have here is a microcosm of what’s happening within the R party all over the country. Cruz was the hope of many of us. He was a great candidate on paper–a constitutional conservative, passionate, articulate, intelligent and principled–pretty much everything that Trump isn’t. Many of us are still smarting from his withdrawal and are struggling to find a way to at least prevent a Clinton victory. For me, it boils down to those Supreme Court appointments. Hell, it is not impossible that should Trump win, he will nominate none other than Ted Cruz.
Hell, it is not impossible that should Trump win, he will nominate none other than Ted Cruz. Trump has already said Cruz would make a fine appointment to the SCOTUS….on that count alone folks should consider what voting third party means…because I can promise if Hillary is elected there’s not a chance in hell someone like Cruz gets a shot at the bench. It does hurt when your guy loses and gets crushed by a buffoon in the process, I never liked Cruz, or Rubio, or Trump….but I like Clinton and Sanders less. It seems lately that we get corporate hacks like Hillary, or loons like Sanders from the dems and we get dreamers from the republican side who can’t play well with others…it does make one wish for a viable third option, but there isn’t a truly viable third option just options to waste a vote. Most elections for me have boiled down to who I dislike the least…I can’t even remember the last time I was maybe excited about a candidate. This cycle was historically interesting because of Trump and the rise of a populist message, he went against almost every poll and pundit and the people voted for him en masse. The message that brings is mostly lost on everyone, but it’s there…as is the message that Sanders campaign has brought to the public. The pundits from both sides are very dismissive of the Sanders and Trump phenomenon but for me I see the parallel of both men. Neither man fits the mold of party insider, neither man is truly a man of the party they are running in and neither man seems to come off message to suit others who think they should. None of the leaders of either party want to admit that they have a problem, but they do and it’s a big one. They have a massive problem with disenfranchised members, that both men have also pulled votes from independents in those open primary states also speaks directly to how the average voter is dissatisfied with all of the previous offerings from the… Read more »
Here’s an interesting number or two. Through the WV primary yesterday, the number of voters who cast their votes for Trump was 10,917, 143. Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich collectively garnered 14,582,079, with Cruz’s piece of that 7,314,143. Put another way, the primary voters overwhelmingly wanted someone other than Trump.