Clinton: U.S. “didn’t lose a single person” in Libya

| March 15, 2016

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According to Fox News, Democrat presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton told a group of supporters on her campaign trail that thanks to her leadership in the State Department and her keen judgement, no Americans were killed during the civil war in Libya;

“Now, is Libya perfect? It isn’t,” Clinton said. After contrasting her approach toward Libya with the ongoing bloodshed in Syria’s civil war, Clinton said “Libya was a different kind of calculation and we didn’t lose a single person … We didn’t have a problem in supporting our European and Arab allies in working with NATO.”

Clinton made no mention of the Sept. 11, 2012 terror attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya that killed four Americans: U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALS Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

Before some of our more liberal Hillary (H>) supporters begin hyperventilating all over the comments section, I know that she was talking about the part of the Libyan civil war that happened before Gaddafi met his end, but, anyone with more than half a brain could make the case that the rise of al Qaeda and ISIS in North Africa which led up to the September 11, 2012 attack on the Benghazi consulate was the direct result of US avoidance of leadership in the region during the “Arab Spring” uprisings. Just like the US avoidance of leadership in Syria has turned that mess into a morass.

Thanks to Chip for the link.

Category: Dumbass Bullshit

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UpNorth

Wide Load is a treat, from not knowing, or caring, that people died in Libya to telling coal miners and coal companies that, hey, you’re going to be out of work and out of business but, solar panels and wind farms!!! Talk about tone deaf.
Almost as ignorant as not knowing why student loans have a higher interest rate.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Once a lying sack of shit, always a lying sack of shit…but middle aged white women love them some HRC…

It’s as though they’re so eager to toss a vote for a female they don’t give a shit if she’s any good for the job, or even any good as a human.

HRC represents the worst we have to offer on so many levels, it’s truly discouraging that so many don’t seem to care.

IDC SARC

At face value her statement is true. They didn’t lose a single person. However, several were in fact killed.

Hondo

Indeed. We lost four individuals, not a “single person”.

The late Ambassador Stevens’ relatives had no comment on Clintoon’s statement. At least, no comments suitable for print.

2/17 Air CAv

You got it, Hondo. That’s her using weaselspeak.

streetsweeper

I have no comments available for printing or broadcast, either. GFY, Clinton.

Sparks

Besides being the fattest, ugliest f**king c**t to come down the pike since Helen Thomas, she’s a lying sack of shit par excellence! I will never understand her ilk. They lie when the truth would work much better. My disdain for her has no limits but I could give her one token of favor if she just took ownership of Benghazi and told the truth everyone already knows.

P.S. Whomever the PR personal appearance aide is who told her long hair makes her look younger, is either an idiot of her magnitude or laughing their ass off.

Casey

I have to disagree, Sparks. I think she’s a terrible liar.

The only people who believe her are Hillophiles and others obsessed with cattle futures.

A Proud Infidel®™

“Hillophiles”? Not bad, I like referring to her minions as “Hillarrhoids” because IMHO they fester like hemorrhoids.

desert

That’s just the lying uglies coming out of the lying bitch…..!

OC

I don’t know Sparks, I think IDC Sarc would still do her………

ChipNASA

Twuntosaurus.

H1

“Lost multiple people”
Totes accurate, see?

Ex-PH2

Shrillary is such an embarrassment to the female sex, I’m thinking of declaring myself an ex-woman until she goes Far, Far Away and stays there.

I’m going to go find a brick wall. I will try to not leave any blood or hair on it, but no promises.

B Woodman

Hopefully she’ll meet her True Soul Mate, Shrek, in Far Far Away.

2/17 Air CAv

“Now, is Libya perfect? It isn’t.” I find that Q/A objectionable too. It’s nice of her to set a perfection standard, isn’t it? Doing so excuses all shortcomings. After all, who or what is perfect, especially when it comes to a country’s politics or governance. She is a weasel. She is a liar. She is Wide Load.

Ex-PH2

That should be crapweasel.

Please don’t equate that skankazoid sleaze with members of the ferret families. They have rules and they abide by them.

Crapweasels flout rules.

Skippy

Why in the hell is this BITCH is free, she should be locked up with her husband

Atkron

She gives me gas pains.

OWB

In what universe is multiple deaths instead of a single death preferable? Oh, I get – she’s counting upon multitudes misunderstanding her words. Here’s a news flash for ya, Wide Load: there remain in this country a whole lotta folks who know you are lying, who know that you deserve to be in jail for your actions (and inactions), and will keep you from EVER entering and/or occupying the White House again.

B Woodman

One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.
Add her death to the four already from Benghazi, and make it closer to that “statistic”.

L. Taylor

I think the connection is arguable. I think Benghazi was partially a consequence of Libyan Civil War.

Though generally operational casualties are measured from the beginning to the end of an operation and the operation in Libya ended long before Benghazi.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

You’re not actually suggesting that HRC is a fine teller of truth are you?

As with most politicians she’s a well known liar and this is another example of parsing a word to make a lie not a lie….her husband is also quite good at this.

At the end of the day the nation doesn’t need someone who signs off on deals that sell 20% of a US strategic asset to our former cold war enemies in Russia….if she’ s willing to sign off on deals as SoS I can only imagine what she’ll sign off on as POTUS…oh wait I think we have some ideas because she’s claiming a desire to continue Obama’s third term for him. Because that’s gone so well for all of us.

OldManchu

Translation:
“I am so analytical and intelligent that I know better.”

Silentium Est Aureum

And right on cue.

Seriously, is there anything these people will say or do that you won’t twist yourself in knots trying to defend?

At some point even you’re going to have to admit this “woman” is wholly unfit to be a dog catcher in North Little Rock, let alone President.

L. Taylor

I do find it ridiculous how consistently the right, and their media sources, all attempt to point to a consequence in the Middle East or North Africa and distill it down to one cause and that one cause be the consequence of one liberal politician’s decision.

The issues in the Middle East and North Africa have more causes than possibly be accounted for, they are almost never even MOSTLY caused by one decision, and few decisions are unilaterally made by one person.

The invasion of Iraq was a major proximal catalyst for a lot going on right now. But there are driving forces involved that go back a century or more. And much of what is going on was inevitable. The Iraq invasion accelerated the time line. And even the Iraq invasion was not the decision of one man, while it was certainly a goal taken on by a specific administration. It took many people supporting the decision for it to occur. Hillary supported the invasion. Bush and his cronies (or rather Bush handlers using the simpleton Bush as a tool) are certainly largely responsible for much of what is happening but it would be difficult to even claim they are MOSTLY responsible.

I even supported removing Saddam by force (though I was opposed to a full scale invasion to do it) I wanted to see the US support Shia and Kurdish insurgents and forces against Saddam, but politically we would never support a Shia insurgency because of their ties to Iran, and we were not, and are seemingly still not, willing to support anything that would result in a Kurdish state.

SSG E

You see, you completely undermine your credibility when you throw out known falsehoods like “or rather Bush handlers using the simpleton Bush as a tool” – Bush as simpleton is a total concoction of his political foes. He stumbled in public speaking on occasion, but everyone I’ve read/heard from who actually talked with him has said he was a) very smart, b) very well-read, and c) completely his own man. Every memoir I’ve seen, every article I’ve read, from folks with no interest in covering up for him, has said the same thing, and confirmed when you hear him interviewed at length. He is nothing close to a simpleton.

You do yourself no rhetorical favors by pushing lies like that – you certainly won’t change anyone’s opinions.

Casey

He’s shoveling it pretty deep, isn’t he?

Oh, well, I guess a boy needs his exercise some way…

Michael Maynard

I believe he undermined his credibility from the first paragraph. L Taylor takes the ‘right’ to task while completely ignoring the left doing the same thing. How many times throughout the Obama presidency have we heard, “It’s Bush’s fault!!!” They’ve screamed it about everything from the economy to the state of the Middle East.

Animal

I can vouch for him as a person. I was part of his security detail when he was the governor of Texas. Simpleton is the last word I’d ever use to characterize him. He had no need to impress any of his detail, but he always treated us courteously and respectfully. I was present for a lot of conversations on a wide range of issues and policy. No, he is far from a simpleton. Public speaking wasn’t his strongpoint, but it has always frustrated me to hear people demean him as unintelligent that never met him.

SSG E

That’s great to hear – I love the stories about little things he’d do – for example, Bush never left for Texas until the day after Christmas, because that meant hundreds of people would get to spend Christmas with their families:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/george-w-bush-never-left-d-c-until-the-day-after-christmas-the-reason-why-is-incredible/

“Who was “us”? Hundreds and hundreds of people, that’s who. Sure, the reporters who covered the president, but also dozens and dozens on his staff, 100 Secret Service agents, maybe more, and all of those city cops required whenever the president’s on the move in D.C. For me, that one-day delay was huge. My kids were 6 and 8 years old when Mr. Bush took office. When he went home to Prairie Chapel that last time in 2009, my girl was driving, the boy was 6 foot 1. But in the meantime, I was home for eight Christmas mornings, playing Santa, stoking the fire, mixing up hot chocolates. That was President Bush.”

A Proud Infidel®™

There have been accounts from Secret Service Personnel that working for the Bush Family is a pleasure while working for Hitlery Cankles is regarded as punishment, one former SS Agent said that “Hillary Climton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Ghandi.”

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-service-agents-hillary-is-a-nightmare-to-work-with/

A Proud Infidel®™

Lars, if BULLSHIT was music you’d be a 24 hour symphony concert.

Hondo

And yet, best estimates from published data (specifically, their relative ASVAB scores or equivalent) indicate that Bush’s IQ was about 10 points higher than the current SECSTATE’s. If I recall correctly, the analysis showed their respective IQs to be approx 125 (Bush) vice approx 115 (Kerry).

And yeah, Taylor – the methodology used WAS accurate. ASVAB/equivalent military test scores of that era have been shown to be closely linked to IQ scores, albeit obviously using different scales.

IDC SARC

yep, MENSA will take the old ASVAB as a score for induction into the organization. They don’t take the current ASVAB

David

hmm… wonder how that equates to the old GT test battery. Think that’s how Bernath got his MESNA approval?

IDC SARC

Mesna…that’s a drug for treating hemorrhagic cystitis…I know it was a simple typo, but the irony as it pertains to Bernath has me laughing.

I imagine if Bernath has a certificate from Mensa, its validity is dubious.

David

Actually I think he claimed membership in MESNA once while trying to bolster his other BS…was not a typo on my part but his.

Silentium Est Aureum

How old?

Although I really have no interest in joining. My one and only experience with MENSA was a meeting I attended, where a bunch of basement dwellers spent a few hours trying to convince each other how “smrat” they all were.

Thanks, I’ll pass.

The Al

See, here’s my issue with your statement, Lars- leftists such as yourself have said repeatedly that Bush was a simpleton, yet somehow he was smart enough to mastermind a mass conspiracy to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. Which is it- he’s a complete moron, or a criminal mastermind?

1SG, US Army (retired)

I appreciate dissenting views, however, you sir are on the wrong website…

Please go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com for your daily dose of BS…

Hitlery Lied, and Heroes Died!

A Proud Infidel®™

Lars will only bitch about that, he’s a self-proclaimed Bernie-head instead of a Hillaroid!

OldManchu

Translation:
“I am so analytical and intelligent that I know better.”

Atkron

Lars how many times have we watched the current POTUS stumble over his words when his teleprompter breaks?

How many policy decisions have been made, that have been a disaster?

I don’t think Bush has a monopoly when it comes to being stupid.

A Proud Infidel®™

How’s this for a drinking challenge, you have to take a drink every time that B. Hussein 0bama says “uhmmm” any time he has to speak sans a teleprompter. As for when he does, you have to drink every time he says “I” or refers to himself, period!

Ex-PH2

You know, when you say some of these things you say, Lars, old Poodle, I really do wonder if you were actually alive in 2001, or just a twinkle is someone’s eye. And never mind the years before that.

If you were actually alive, conscious and breathing, it isn’t apparent in what you post in your comments. It’s almost as though you blame Bush for what those hijackers did. I swear, sometimes I’ve run into pizza dough that is less dense than you are.

As dense as you are, Poodle, whatever goes wrong between 2001 and the end of this century will be Bush’s fault in your eyes, even if he had nothing to do with it. I’m quite sure that you think bodaprez is as next-to-God as anyone can get, but I assure you that he is not. My cat is smarter than he is and has more initiative, AND he doesn’t need a teleprompter to make his point.

If you ever decide to stop blaming The Right for the crap that now exists, and the policies imposed on the US by the bodaprez lack-of-administration, send me a postcard, willya? The Post Office still delivers stuff like that.

EB

Support for Shia and Kurdish insurgents would have most likely had to go through Iran (think Muqtada al-Sadr). It’s like saying: “Apocalyptic authoritarian (with a WMD program), please help me take out your apocalyptic dicator neighbor because he has a WMD program and because he’s a bad man. But don’t worry, we don’t that to you down the line (fingers and toes crossed)”.

Iraq convinced Libya to give up its WMD program, and then this administration boneheadedly went ahead and bombed them into anarchic chaos while the world studiously looked on. What do you think that taught them? How about the Syrian red line, the very one we backed down on, of which the world perceived due to those very weapons upon which that line was drawn.

I can venture an educated guess what they learned: never give up your WMD program (if you have one) under any circumstances (and if you don’t, maybe it’s time to build one). Of course increased distrust of the US to keep to its word, and the use of the WMD/apocalyptic threats to blunt our hard/soft power. IMHO, if anything, the current administration has made the world a more dangerous place, and reinforced the need of small/weaker states to maintain WMD programs and proliferation.

(FTR: I’m no fan of how Iraq was ultimately handled by the previous admin, but this one made it far worse)

Former EM1/SS

How is it that the entire crowd that believes so strongly that Bush was a simpleton thinks that Teleprompter Jesus is such a genius?

Projection – It aint just a river in Egypt

A Proud Infidel®™

Since when hasn’t Hildebeast Cankles been full of lies, doublespeak, and propaganda?

Hondo

Well, published sources give her DOB as 26 October 1947. I’m guessing 25 October 1947 and before would be before she’d learned how to lie.

Martinjmpr

“We didn’t lose a single person in Libya”
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So… They were all married?

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Perhaps she meant that no Democrat voters were lost…

2/17 Air Cav

You see, the way a few of you are treating this is precisely how anything she says must be treated. My guess is that BJ got the “it all depends upon what the meaning of is is” from Wide Load.

Synan D. Bauchery

When Hillary was a kid she got the crap beat out of her for telling the truth. She swore that from that moment on she’d never tell the truth again.

Hondo

By any chance, is your unmarried sister named “Sybian Donna” – “Sybian D.” for short? (smile)

Perry Gaskill

Hillary would actually be kind of amusing if she wasn’t running for President. It’s like your kid having a demented Barbie doll that when you pull its string spouts random quotes from Zippy the Pinhead.

Silentium Est Aureum

I’d pay for one of those.

Ex-PH2

I haven’t seen the latest poll results, but I believe she’s still trailing that aging hippie, the Bernout.

One can only hope. Her voice is cracking, too, which means if she manages to score a win some place, she’ll be too laryngitic to speak out loud, so you can turn the sound down and say things that go with the way she wiggles her lips.

I have noticed how her rhetoric is now almost identical to the Bernout’s. Just think… if they had a kid….

2/17 Air Cav

There are quite a few people at TAH with higher than average IQs. I don’t need a score to tell that. There’s a ‘ting’ that very bright people have. It usually includes a rather sick sense of humor. NHS Sparky had it. He was a very bright fellow. There are others who are still here but I’m not naming tags. Suffice to say, you are known.

Roger in Republic

Actually, Hillary is 100 percent correct in her claim that not one single American was lost. All of their bodies were found! That’s what she said and and she is correct. When she said “lost” we thought she meant “killed”. We were wrong, we didn’t listen. It’s our fault that we are so unsophisticated that we confuse Lost with Killed. At least that will be her excuse when the shit storm erupts, if it ever does.

Silentium Est Aureum

Put another way:

Even Dan Bernath isn’t stupid enough to tell a whopper like this under oath.

Maybe.