Lanier: take the gunmen out

| November 24, 2015

Cathy-Lanier

The most ardent anti-gun police officer in the country, Kathy Lanier, the police chief of the District of Columbia’s Metro Police Department told the “60 Minutes” audience that the police aren’t going to get to the scene of an active shooter, like the attack in Paris, in time to save them, so if they can’t get away from a gun man, they should “take the gunmen out – it’s the best option for saving lives before police can get there”, according to WTTG Fox5. Does she mean “take them out” for nice half-smoke and a root beer? Because no one in the District is armed – except for the army of law enforcement of various agencies who never seem to be on the scene when a crime happens. There are more than a dozen “police departments” inside the District besides the 4,000 member Metro PD.

The Washington Times is understating Lanier’s opposition to arming private citizens when they wrote “Chief Lanier…has enthusiastically supported the city’s efforts to limit handgun ownership”.

Lanier has actually placed herself between legal gun owners and their right to protect themselves with her complicated and costly licensing system that has allowed only a few dozen people in the District to become legal gun owners. On Facebook, Emily Miller, noted pro-second amendment journalist and DC resident asks; Chief, how can DC residents “take the gunman out” when you have only granted gun carry permits to 45 people?

Emily is one of those 45 licensed gun owners in the District. She got her license after she was a victim of a violent crime in DC. She wrote a book about her experiences with the DC Metro PD while she was trying to become a licensed gun owner there.

You can watch the whole Chief Lanier segment of “60 Minutes” here;

I guess Lanier didn’t take into account that people knew her actual actions would be watching her on the TV show.

Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists

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Veritas Omnia Vincit

They never take into account the concept that words spoken to the media are words that remain forever etched into our current consciousness.

Take them out is a great idea except when you are unarmed, that requires a level of courage that’s hard to come by when folks believe they can hide or run. Running at a gunman when you are unarmed is never a great idea, unless it’s that or die. Then it becomes a question of how you choose to die at that moment.

desert

This dizzy bitch is the C.O.P.? gimme a break, yeh right “take’em out! while she goes somewhere and plays whatever freaking games she plays…! talk about STUPID! Give them back they guns you dizzy A.H.!!

Old Trooper

My leftist mother-in-law asked me if I still carry a gun. I asked her if she still had a fire extinguisher. If she only knew how many times I was armed in her house, she would faint. Same with my leftist brother-in-law and his wife, who stated that she would never allow her children to be around firearms and would know if someone had them around them. One day we were getting ready to go to her brother’s house and she noticed I was packing. She told me I couldn’t do that because the sister-in-law would have a fit. That’s when I informed her of every time I was packing around her mom and her brother, and his wife and kids. She laughed all the way to her brother’s house. None of them know to this day and it has been 5 years.

I would rather never need it and have it than need it and not have it.

A Proud Infidel®™

Eeeeeyup! I have the same mentality about my CC firearm as I do about the five pound dry chemical fire extinguisher I keep in my pickup truck. Having it with me gives me adittional peace of mind, but I hope I never have to use it either on a fire or a group of punks ( DC Fire Extinguishers are loaded with magnesium carbonate which irritates eyes, sinuses and windpipes much like CS gas, I’ve been “tagged” by the stuff during a small workplace fire, and I’ll vouch for that!).

GDContractor

What if we clone Emily Miller? Lots of armed Emily Millers running around DC would make me feel safe… and happy.

Dapandico

What? She wants you to stumble across a thugs hidden stash of guns to defend yourself?

Hondo

So, DC residents are supposed to “take them (the gunmen) out” if there’s a shooting incident, because the DC police cannot get there quickly enough.

Question for ya, Chief Lanier. You don’t want law-abiding DC residents to have firearms. So if there’s a shooting incident, in the words of a commercial from yesteryear: since the law-abiding citizens won’t be armed and the gunmen will . . . “How they gonna do that?”

Freaking idiot.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

As per the ‘Security Mom’ on CNN, she said we should do what the French did.

Rather than employ the active shooter ‘RUN, HIDE, FIGHT’ plan, which is the widely accepted way to think when seconds count and your life depends on your choice, the CNN ‘Security Mom’ says to ‘RUN, HIDE, PLAY DEAD’.

So let’s marry up Chief Lanier’s plan with the ‘Security Mom’ plan and you score the results.

‘RUN, HIDE, PLAY DEAD, TAKE ‘EM OUT (if playing dead did not work)’.

Can’t make this up.

My plan advances ‘RUN, HIDE, FIGHT’:

‘RUN, HIDE AND PREPARE KILL SHOOTER(s), KILL SHOOTER(s)’.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Oh, my mistake.

If ‘PLAYING DEAD’ did not work out as planned, you could be made ‘DEAD’.

Ah … nevermind!

So, in review … ‘RUN, HIDE (weapons and ammo check), FIGHT (kill shooters) is a good plan.

Not sure what ‘take gunmen out’ is when you don’t have a gun.

The Other Whitey

How’s this?

RUN to cover
HIDE behind cover
SHOOT BACK with your weapon

UpNorth

What would the gunman do if he or she fired one shot, and 27 people fell down “dead” in the room? Think he or she would be fooled?

Bobo

In other recent news from the Nation’s capitol, there is an increase in MS-13 related murders in the District. I’m guessing that the chief was speaking to the gang members when she suggested “taking out” an active shooter since they are the only ones armed.

If the Mafia is protecting the NYPD, is MS-13 serving as the de facto Metro PD?

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Yo don’t go hatin’ on NYC, we do pretty damn good up here!

MSG Eric

Well of course you do Chief. You have all those Goodfellas around to watch your backs…

SGT Fon

And don’t forget “Il-duce” Coumo in Albany….

A Proud Infidel®™

JUST HOW are DC denizens supposed to take out or repel an armed perp when they are severely restricted by law from being armed themselves? A criminal carrying a firearm in DC is as protected by law from people defending themselves as he, she or it is in say, Chicago, LA or Mexico.

Verm

Modified liberal rape avoidance techniques:

1. Piss your pants then try to wrap pants around assailant’s head.
2. Flank assailant then proceed to vomit in eyes or mouth.
3. Flank assailant and blow very loud whistle directly in ear.
4. use mind bending techniques to stop bullet in mid flight then re-aim projectile at non-lethal point on assailant’s body. Note: this technique may need to be repeated multiple times if assailant is using an “evil assault rifle.”

A Proud Infidel®™

I always thought they’d suggest that the victim beat off the attacker!

Hondo

PI, you might want to rephrase that comment somewhat . . . .

MSG Eric

Since it is the “liberal” response to rape, I’m guessing PI was being very specific in that comment.

Jarhead

API…You KNOW sooner or later some freak was going to ask, “Are you talking about his meat?” This is for you my friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCiNAgfcUs

And yes, you are welcome!

A Proud Infidel®™

FTR, YES I do think that an airheaded bleach blonde EO Quota like Like Laner would suggest that a rape victim try yo defend her or himself by beating off their attacker!!

Doc Savage

hurtful words and harsh language will stop ’em……unless they are in a “safe space”….then you are on your own.

GDContractor

I don’t want no stinkin root beer.

Ex-PH2

Take them out with what? My good looks?

Yeah, that will stop them for sure.

Hey, Kathy – birdbrain! Arm the citizens, dumbass. Then they can ‘take them out’.

What a dink!

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Watching the Slammintonio news this morning and learned that it is perfectly legal to own a flame thrower down here. No permit or license required. You can buy them online.

Hmmmm. I reckon that’ll stop a bad guy.

Doc Savage

BBQ place this weekend?

A Proud Infidel®™

Meh, just add some pig fat to the fuel and it’ll be PERFECT for dealing with crowds of radical muzzies!

John S.

So Kathy Lanier is not halal, then.

The Other Whitey

Smells like victory…

Green Thumb

I wonder what Moose Ramsey would have said?

Boatsailor

Long-time reader, first-time poster. Retired Navy Chief, submarines the whole time, so not a combat veteran like my ground or aviation brethren. Was on the floor and end of the building when the Navy Yard shooting started. People thought that someone had dropped a table in the atrium, but I knew better, so did the Navy Captain who had just returned from Afghanistan. Our thought was to tear a desktop off, and see if we could get to him before he got us but were ordered by a Flag to get the others out and evacuate the building. Still hear people screaming and wonder if we could have been effective at saving just one of the victims. The after-action report detailed the entanglement and jurisdiction issues between Chief Lanier’s people and every other swinging authorized gun-issued Government Tom, Dick and Harry agency, but that did nothing for those in the building. The contract security guys are nice, but not trained for that event. Her comments are beyond ridiculous, but she simply is making noise to sound like she knows what she is doing, based on the current potential situations. Politics at its worst? Probably. Helpful information? Nope. A DC councilperson suggested carrying a baseball bat (what, he doesn’t like softball or cricket?), much like the VP’s advice to fire a shotgun through a door. Not helpful at all, just talk to talk. Thanks.

2/17 Air Cav

Submarines? My hat is off to you. Not me, brother. No way. No how. If I have to be on the water, I prefer fish below me, not above.

Boatsailor

My thanks to you, my Airborne friend. My ex-wives attribute it to a genetic deficiency.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Welcome aboard Chief!

MSG Eric

I’m sure she’s hoping for Hillary to be President too.

Hillary will distribute guidance to say if there’s an active shooter, “Don’t do that because…..9/11!” That ought to stop them in their tracks and they’ll drop their guns.

Joe Mama

The D.C. citizens are just cannon fodder you see. It takes time for her boys to finish off that last French Cruller from the Dunkin Donuts, lace up them tactical boots, and get to the crime scene. And, if you get shot/killed, you just need suck it up and “take one for the team”.

FatCircles0311

If people use the weapon it’s much easier to prosecute them if they survive and then they can claim they are on the right side of combating “gun violence”. I don’t believe for one second this shrew believes citizens should own firearms.

2/17 Air Cav

Love a dame who talks tough.

E-6 type, 1 ea

Come on, it’s painfully obvious that she misspoke. What she MEANT was to put the gunmen in timeout. Then, after a few minutes you can calmly explain to them how their actions were wrong and they need to change their behavior.

Shooting people just because they’re shooting other people is bad, mkay?

Ex-PH2

Someone should sue her or something. She’s promoting gun violence in a non-gun environment. That could be costly to the WDC budget.

Herbert J Messkit

About the Chiefs comment I’m a cup half full guy. We just heard a lib/prob recognize the right of self defense. Now we just need to get her to recognize the right of law abiding self governing citizens to carry the means to perform it

John Robert Mallernee

BREAKING NEWS ! ! !

Hostage situation in France.

Details unknown.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

BIG NEGATIVE!

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

No nexus!

B Woodman

From a different POV.
I guess she’s coming to the same realization that every other gun owner has known for decades, “when seconds count, the po-po are minutes away”.

But as everyone else has pointed out, that only really helps when you can effectively fight back.

OWB

Seems that a bunch of us reacted similarly – take them out with what, Kath? Maybe with that unlicensed rack we carry in our pocket??

Oh, I know! Slingshots. Yeah, that’s it.

OWB

Orrr – the rock in our pocket…

Blaster

It seems that Kathy Linear there and her ilk are getting more and more comfortable with armed citizens defending them since the police have become targets

Ex-PH2

Here’s an idea: don’t live in WDC.

It was bad enough in the 1960s. It appears to be worse than it was back then.

Don’t live there.

PavePusher

She’s still a fucking Fascist.