Planned Parenthood’s chop shops
One reason it is so difficult to recover stolen cars is that many, if not most, are not stolen to be sold intact but rather to be taken to what are called chop shops, below-the-radar auto body shops that surreptitiously dismantle these vehicles, stripping away every conceivable part that may have resale value in the auto aftermarket. An automobile carefully dissected provides far more value from all those separate parts than it could ever have in its whole form.
And sadly, such appears to be true with unborn babies. For the past two weeks we have been serially exposed to videos of various officials in the Planned Parenthood organization, some physicians and some not, who have been captured for all time, blithely discussing the means and details of how a fetus delivered into their hands through a government sanctioned abortion program can be carved up, dissected and dismantled, just like those cars in the chop shops, and for the very same purpose, to be sold for its high value parts.
For Democrat liberals and their mainstream media public relations arm, who will quickly protest that these fetal fragments of what was once a developing human being are not viable human tissue, I would ask a simple question: If the whole of this little being was not viable, then how is it that its tiny parts are? How is it that if fetuses have no value their tender bodies are being routinely dissected and sold for parts, just like in the auto chops shops? You can’t have it both ways, if those parts have value, then the whole from which they came, most assuredly did as well. I would submit that in this case most especially that those tiny wholes are greater than the sum of their parts.
What is truly frightening about these continually unreeling videos is the blithe, unconcerned attitude of the Planned Parenthood officials in their discussions of the systematic dismantling of miniature human bodies with such care as to not damage the various parts to be obtained for resale. Their expressed concern for the care with which these parts must be handled in the dissection process is delivered in an offhand manner which one imagines was that of those Japanese physicians who observed American POW’s being deliberately frozen to death to determine ways to improve the survivability rate of their own downed aviators; or perhaps the distanced concern of Nazi physicians watching Jewish prisoners being tied to posts and shot with weapons of various calibers so that they could immediately examine the varied damages.
Planned Parenthood’s physicians can attempt to hide behind the lie that they do not abuse live human beings such as the Japanese and German medical researcher’s did, but that begs the question of whether or not those little humans they chop up for parts would be alive were they left alone to fully develop? Crude as I must be to point out this reality, I am nowhere near as crude as Planned Parenthood’s medical staff, which for all practical purposes is operating a human chop shop.
Crossposted at American Thinker
Category: Politics
Just Google “margaret sanger + eugenics”
enough said
You’d be amazed at how hard liberals work to ignore this. I pointed this out when debating someone over Facebook and they immediately demanded that I provide a citation for my claim. 5 minutes of Google later, I provided a number of links which were promptly dismissed as being biased. I pointed out that one of the articles provided multiple quotations of Sanger in article her racial tolerance. I asked what the right context was for speaking aa Klan rally not really expecting an answer. Apparently, eugenics is all right if it’s targeting the mentally disabled.
Can somebody please tell me why the Stank-assed hippie libtards have gone full retard over a dentist that shot a lion, yet are very quiet over this whole PP ordeal and narry a peep over Kermit Gosnell and his murder-mill he ran in Philly!!!!!!! 🙁
You know why: it does not further their agenda. Also you left out the part about their push to get rid of our guns because guns kill people but abortion doctors dont.
Um, because they feel protecting animals is more important?
Dentist should have said he was collecting specimens for research from the lion…
I find it ironic as hell that a lion named after the founder of Rhodesia draws so much attention from the the very same people who want to erase the names of many of our founders because they were slave owners. Cecil Rhodes built a nation, Robert Mugabe took a country and turned it into a shit hole basket case. I also find it ironic that Planned Parenthood is the ultimate Oxymoron.
Yeah I can’t fathom why they would call their baby killing center that. They need to change their name to “preventing parenthood”.
It’s mission drift. They used to be all about contraception.
I keep thinking if only Hitler’s mother had found an old crone with a twig….
But, you see, the world ‘family’ means nothing to these widgets. It must have something to do with the same mental bias that exists in human trafficking. When does that stop?
You’re assuming that would have altered history.
Let’s face it, Germany in the late 1920s and early 1930s was in a helluva shape. They were desperate, and looking for a savior…and a scapegoat If it wasn’t Hitler scapegoating the Jews, it would have been someone else. Maybe someone worse. Maybe someone who would have won the war.
I don’t like Planned Parenthood’s methods, despite the fact that I’m usually the one to argue that abortion is a medical procedure and should be kept legal. But Planned Parenthood is first and foremost a business, and is run like one — with an eye on the bottom line.
Intrinsic value of human tissue is the dark side to our medical world. There are only two sources of human tissue left for experimentation in this country anymore: volunteers and fetal tissue. We used to use mental patients and prison inmates, but that was stopped about fifty years ago. Soldiers are also used, but that’s a different track, so I’m not going to include them here. There are tight restrictions on live volunteers, loosened only slightly if the volunteer is terminally ill. That leaves fetal tissue, and yes, it is medically valuable. Stem cells are what the public has heard the most about, but there are others that are used also. If you’ve never read up on it, Google it. You’ll be shocked and amazed at the research that is being done with it.
Human tissue is valuable. It is bought and sold. As we learn more about regeneration and transplantation, viable tissues of all types become more valuable. You can pontificate all you want, but if it’s your eyesight that can be restored, or your liver, heart or lungs that can be replaced, all of a sudden the cost doesn’t seem so high anymore. Would and could we find a way to do the current research that is ongoing, if the fetal tissue wasn’t available anymore? Maybe. We’re pretty creative that way. But while that tissue is available, it will be used in research. It’s either that, or it ends up in the landfill. I’d rather see it used in research.
A lot of Nazi medical research was disregarded after the war because of its tainted source. And stuff like this can’t help but cause a Josef Mengele comparison:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/07/30/fourth-undercover-video-reveals-planned-parenthood-sells-organs-from-babies-born-alive-n2032447
You would think medical ethics would be black and white. In most instances, it is. But there are areas where there are more than 50 shades of gray, and as we become more medically advanced, that number increases. And the intermingled color of dollar green doesn’t help matters any.
Some doctors that preform abortions are murderers, pure and simple. There is no denying that. So are the mothers of the babies that are aborted out of convenience, and there is no denying that, either. Every single aborted fetus is a human baby, and we are responsible for ending those lives, and I believe we will answer for those lives. If they are taken for a medically legitimate reason, then that is something that is only barely acceptable. If they are being taken because they are inconvenient, or god forbid, profitable, then that is completely unacceptable. No procedure that takes a human life, medical or otherwise, should be thoughtlessly or carelessly used.
We hanged german doctors for less
1) I read that it is accepted fact that the videos are heavily edited to support the filming group’s case. Akin to what Michael Moore did to Charlton Heston – quotes taken out of context, splicing to create false context etc. True or false?
2) Planned Parenthood does free or reduced cost medical screening for poor women, low-cost or free birth control.. and less than 3% of their total operations includes abortions. Most of their Federal funding goes toward the health-care and birth control activities.
Seems like there is a misconception about what they mostly do, and a strong willingness to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
From what I have read (I haven’t watched the videos so I could be wrong) they have also released the full videos and the stuff that was edited out was the non-important stuff like walking down the hallway, etc.
Twist – not sure Medi Matters is any more a credible source than any other, but in http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/21/latest-video-attacking-planned-parenthood-full/204524#edit1
they publish what they claim are original text and the altered texts – looks a bit more involved than editing the walking down the hall sort of thing.
From the Media Matters “About Us” page ( http://mediamatters.org/about ) – emphasis added:
Allow me to translate into plain English: they’re a bunch of leftist partisans/propaganda hacks/spin doctors. At one point they were largely funded by George Soros (and may still be, for all I know). Thinking they might possibly be “unbiased” is naive; believing they are unbiased is foolish. Bias is their business.
I’d trust anything I saw or read that came from Media Matters as only far as I could independently verify it using known credible sources. And even if it appeared to check out, given the source I’d be suspicious as hell.
For what it’s worth, Snopes has thrown a flag on the videos. Big surprise.
What makes me suspicious is that the usual suspects have been using the “selectively edited” defense since the ACORN sting. The only people it has convinced are Progressives.
PP is an abortion mill plain and simple. It was founded by one of the biggest racists on the planet David that called for extermination of the black race the same as Hitler supported with the Jews in WWII.
The number of other health services they provide can be done at any one of a thousand other places most likely in that same city or urban area.
You are supporting racism, eugenics and what has got to be one of the worst cases of PR in the history of America.
Over 60% of all black babies in NYC are aborted for convenience sake.
Be proud of your support, and I hope that you are one of the ones that answer for the deaths of so many when you leave this world to stand in front of the highest judge in all of creation.
BTW, I am pro life, and I can prove it, TWICE. And for that, I am proud of that fact.
I have two spare kids, both beautiful young ladies simply because I did the right thing and supported those kids when I was given the choice.
Calm down, Your Holiness…. I have three daughters and six grandchildren. Come back and talk when you can match it.
They are the largest source of legal abortions in the US, no argument. They are also one of the largest providers of medical care to poor women… so where do you typically find poor women. Poor neighborhoods.
Their founder was racist? So was Henry Ford. You want to shut Ford down, too? Look at the context of the times, unless you want to engage in the lazy self-indulgence of judging historical figures only by moderns standards.
I don’t support abortion as a form of birth control, as you seem to assume – but I do think that defunding them completely over 3% of their operations is silly and counterproductive.
Ford Motor Company was not started with the purpose of euthanizing the black population of these United States.
“Planned Parenthood” was.
Blacks, Jews, Italians, and anybody else that didn’t qualify as Frau Sanger’s übermensch. She would have gotten around to Mexicans and southeast Asians eventually.
and the Klan was founded to look out for the welfare of Civil War veterans. You seriously believe that 100 years later, with all the black employees and administrators, that Margaret Sanger’s few quotes on the subject are really relevant? Note that the only people claiming the organization still promotes black euthanasia are rabidly antiPP folk like Pat Robertson.
As Margaret Sanger stated,
“The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added].39 – See more at: http://www.cwfa.org/the-negro-project-margaret-sangers-eugenic-plan-for-black-americans/#sthash.YCEYoyra.dpuf
So the fact that she recruited black pastors to dupe their congregations into supporting their own genocide means absolutely nothing to you.
Exactly. He’s making a false equivalence.
Except that the 3% figure for abortions is bogus, acccording to PP’s own statement. In the article at the WaPo, PP says that they provided service to 3 million women, and that 329,000 of those women got abortions. That’s about 10% of their “total operations”. Klein was using PP’s figures from 2011, I believe.
I thought I’d included the link to the article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/what-planned-parenthood-actually-does/2011/04/06/AFhBPa2C_blog.html
Yes, that’s all true but these guys latch onto 3% to minimize the impact. I mean, if they truly meant their words, w/o reservation, it shouldn’t matter to them whether it’s 3% or 100%. PP is taxpayer-supported murder of helpless infants, ripped from their mothers’ wombs. And for JohnE, no, a woman should not be free to kill a baby within her any more than she should be free to kill a newborn.
Actually much closer to 11%. To 3 decimal places, 329,000 / 3,000,000 is 10.967%, or just a hair short of 1 out of 9 (11.111%).
I was trying to keep it easy for some posters on this thread. 😉
You know what the “new math” can do to some of us, Hondo.
(and this is coming from someone that has an MBA) 😉
I wanted to make one more point, and include an interesting link. In a very short period of time, human fetuses won’t be needed for research anymore, and quite possibly, human volunteers, either. We have begun to reproduce tissues and even whole organs in laboratories. Fascinating stuff:
http://singularityhub.com/2009/06/08/growing-organs-in-the-lab/
There is no reason for babies killed in abortions to be used for research except the profit motive of PP and a ton of other research arms of the government and private business…
It literally makes me sick to my stomach to think about this.
Thank you Pinto.
Maybe it will help to know that access to fetal stem cells gave us the information we needed to understand the process of cellular ‘determination,’ which helped us to understand how, when, and why a cell becomes specialized within the body. With that information, we built up the science to do what is being done now in the bio-engineering labs. I’m not saying the end justified the means, but maybe some comfort can be taken in knowing that many of those dead babies are the bedrock for future lives helped and saved.
Here in the NCR, we’re seeing the Planned Parenthood commercials saying that “extremists” are trying to stop access to essential women’s health issues like breast cancer screening. I think the pull quote was “If these extremists are allowed to stop funding PP, millions of women won’t be as lucky….”
God forbid women pay for their own mistakes.
Alternatively the cities & states which feel strongly about this are still allowed to provide funds on their own.
I hate the very idea of abortion. I understand the need for some leeway in rape/incest cases, though I still don’t like it because the child doesn’t choose their origins, and they’re dying for something they had zero control over. Medical necessity, though rare, is exactly that. Being Catholic, my opinion obviously has a religious component. But it’s also based on tangible real-world experience. I’ve often discussed my daughter on TAH. The day my wife told me that I was a father was the greatest day of my life, closely-tied with the day 3 months ago that she told me our little girl is now a big sister. My daughter started kicking just after 4 months gestation. A week later, she started responding to me. When I leaned in close to my wife’s belly and spoke to my daughter, she responded to the sound of my voice. She only did that for ME. She usually ignored other people and other noises, or squirmed a little if a noise didn’t go away after a while, but she always responded immediately to my voice. According to my wife, when I spoke to her, my daughter would respond by pushing against the opposite side of her uterus to get CLOSER to me. If she responded at all to other sounds, it would be to get away from the noise, but she tried to get closer to me. It wasn’t an unconscious response to random stimuli, she RECOGNIZED me as her father at FOUR MONTHS IN THE WOMB. Nobody can tell me that my then-unborn daughter wasn’t a person at that point. About five weeks after that, the docs saw something on the ultrasound that “might be nothing, might be cystic fibrosis.” I felt like I’d been hit by a truck at that moment, hearing that my baby girl could be dying before she even had a chance to be born. The doc then told us that, if confirmed, abortion was an option we could consider. My first instinct was to grab the doc that suggested we have our child murdered and throw her… Read more »
Currently happening at a PP chop shop near you…….
“A Colorado Planned Parenthood doctor stresses calling the harvesting of fetal tissue ‘“research”’ and not ‘“business”’ — and casually pokes around in a petri dish of aborted remains as a colleague exclaims, ‘“Another boy!”’ — in the latest video released Thursday by an activist group whose hidden camera stings have imperiled the embattled nonprofit’s taxpayer funding.”
(Fox News)
Another boy. That’s funny, isn’t it? It’s a real knee slapper, huh? Or maybe not. Maybe it’s sick beyond belief, ghoulish and demented. Another boy. Fuckers.
Who knew that Dr. Mengele had so many descendants?
2/17 Air Cav, Thank you. You spoke my own disgust with PP perfectly.
How is it that babies are so valuable until they are born, and after that they are on their own? Once that kid is born, the Religious Right and GoP don’t give a fuck about them. Head start, food stamps, school funding, cut them all. The kid not born with a silver spoon in his mouth doesn’t stand a chance.
What its truly about is allowing women the freedom to do as they please with their bodies, and giving them access to proper health care…Planned Parenthood is not snatching pregnant women off the street and harvesting their babies.
How is it that you can deny women birth control, not allow sex education in the schools, preach abstinence, and be surprised when little Suzie comes up pregnant?
And lets be honest…there are people out there who simply should not be parents. If they need to use the 3% of Planned Parenthoods services that terminate pregnancies, that is their business and their business alone.
So much BS in one post it’s hard to know where to start.
The “Religious Right” and “GOP” don’t give a crap as soon as the child is born? Proof? Links? or just overheated BS with no basis in fact? Head start doesn’t really work, the food stamp program is full of fraud and school funding should be a local issue.
The issue isn’t about allowing women to do what ever they want with their bodies. The issue is killing a child who never got the “choice” to make a decision about THEIR bodies. It’s about personal responsibility which you seem to have a real problem with. It takes 2 to tango and 2 to make a baby, yet only 1 gets to decide whether to kill it or not? What about the unborn woman’s choice?
No one is denying birth control to anyone. People just don’t want to have to pay for or subsidize someone else. I have a hard enough time paying for my family let alone 20 other folks who are more than capable of paying for it themselves but don’t want to. Personal responsibility.
Can’t disagree that there are some that should never be parents. However, seeing as there are hundreds of thousands desiring to adopt because they can’t have kids of their own wouldn’t adoption be a viable alternative? Personal responsibility.
That 3% is how many babies in real numbers, JohnE? 100,000? 200,000? 300,000? How about 333,964 for 2011. But you like percentages? Here’s one. In 2011, 92% of Planned Parenthood’s pregnancy services went to abortion. .06% went to adoption, and the balance went to prenatal care. You endorse and support abortion but masquerade it as freedom. I suppose that you take no issue with a woman’s suicide, either. That would be consistent. After all, “What its truly about is allowing women the freedom to do as they please with their bodies….” As for the silliness of your first couple of lines, I’ll just leave that alone. Maybe someone else would like to educate you.
Right on Air Cav
Sorry about the report comment above, please disregard…stupid fat fingers.
GoP is cutting funding to all kinds of programs that benefit children…fact.
Churches just want more soldiers for the Lords™ Army and are too concerned with building mega churches and buying jets for ministers than they are to care for the poor and huddled masses.
So in your opinion it is better to have 100000, 200000 or 300000 unwanted, unplanned, uncared for and ultimately uneducated children wandering the streets?
I don’t see these lines of people wanting to adopt anywhere, perhaps they are in your neck of the woods, but they aren’t here.
I do not judge those who want/need/procure abortion as some do.
It is the right of the mother to have access to health care, and that access is simply between her and her doctor.
Don’t like or support abortion? Don’t get one. Don’t force your beliefs on others.
“I don’t see these lines of people wanting to adopt anywhere, perhaps they are in your neck of the woods, but they aren’t here.”
Then you aren’t looking very hard.
Don’t force my beliefs on others? Did I read that correctly? Are you kidding? Do you know how much support abortion and, more recently, gay marriage had among the American people when they were forced upon us? Are you joking?
“So in your opinion it is better to have 100000, 200000 or 300000 unwanted, unplanned, uncared for and ultimately uneducated children wandering the streets?”
Whoa! Stop the presses! There we go, the money line! It is about killing off the children for you. David questioned the relevance of Margaret Sanger 100 years later, and your question answers him, in the affirmative. Weed ’em out before they’re born and become societal burdens. Got it.
If ONLY the GOP were cutting something…but they aren’t. Lately, they aren’t even trying, unless you want to count the cuts to defense spending. Yes there are some large churches that are all about bigger buildings and more opulence but that is far from the majority of churches. It would appear by your blanket statements that you don’t associate much with churches. I know of hundreds of churches that have tons of programs that help the poor. But what “help” exactly are you talking about? Why do you think people are going overseas and adopting from eastern Europe, Asia, Africa and South America? It’s because of the legal hoops they have to jump through here as well as the lack of large numbers of children to adopt due in part to abortion on demand. If you don’t see them or don’t know about them, then you just aren’t looking. I know of several couples desperate to adopt and waited YEARS to adopt here before finally paying through the nose to adopt children from overseas. I know of a couple families who also happen to be part of the “religious right” who have adopted 3 or more children. Abortion is NOT health care. The vast majority of women don’t get an abortion because of their “health”. Some are duped into it, some are coerced into it, some are forced into it and sadly way too many use it as a form of birth control. This has nothing to do with forcing beliefs on anyone else. I have not made a “religious” argument against abortion. For humanities sake, abortion should be stopped. Jefferson wrote “…LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..” How can anyone have the other two unless they have LIFE first? How on earth can we look at what Mengele did and then say that somehow tearing a baby limb from limb in the womb; or delivering all but the head, shoving a pair of scissors in it’s brain and killing it before extracting it or delivering it whole and either snipping it’s neck or leaving it to die of… Read more »
“…fact,” eh?
How about specific cites to back your claims up, instead of hot air?
JohnE…What planet are you on? “I don’t see these lines of people wanting to adopt anywhere, perhaps they are in your neck of the woods, but they aren’t here.” I do see them and nationwide as well as worldwide. This nation will let those incapable of supporting and properly raising a child have as many as they choose. One of our freedoms even if we taxpayers support them. The family courts will bend over backwards to put a poor, needy sometimes abused child back in the home with the “loving” crack whore mother because after all, nothing says lovin’ like good ole’ mom, right? Yet an infertile couple who goes through the adoption process is scrutinized to the Nth degree as to their worthiness to be parents. So much so that many go to other countries with less stringent requirements. I talking about solid, well financed parents with nothing but a desire to have a child to love and raise and offer the best. In my state it is made so hard on adopting parents, most give up and look to China, India and elsewhere. So yes there are many wanting desperately to adopt. Yet the same family services systems which make the process a living, anxiety ridden hell for those wanting to adopt will do all in their power to aid and abet an unfit parent continue to keep neglecting their children.
Word and Word again Brother!
It’s 10% of their business,not 3%.
Deny women birth control? How about if women forgo that 12 pack for the weekend, or a set of acrylic nails and spend $9.00 on BC?
If it’s “their business and their business alone”, why do they insist on me paying for a portion of their coverage?
Because they’re liberals like the one that went in front of a committee saying she needed all kinds of money for BC while she was in college like she was the football and basketball teams’ concubine! Liberals love to run around spouting off about how everyone owes them everything on a silver platter while they demand even more.
Nice straw man argument you set up there, JohnE. Amazing how quickly you destroyed them all too.
The argument here isn’t about welfare, birth control (which was cheap to begin with an now free) or head start programs/education – all of which are state issues that the Federal government shouldn’t be part of.
The argument is about a supposed non-profit organization violating federal law and selling, FOR A PROFIT, the parts of a innocent that did nothing except be conceived.
Most of Planned Parenthoods supposed “women’s services” are accomplished by referring those women to clinics that provide those services. Wow, they sure are helpful aren’t they?
The majority of the services directly provided by PP is abortion, murder, pure and simple and then adding insult to injury, profiting off the body parts which is, of course, a violation of Federal law. To them, the child has no value until it is turned into parts.
Oh, and I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth either but I did alright for myself and my family without the government stepping in to help me out. So, your little statement there is full of shit.
The argument quickly became a defund PPs evil activities…nowhere did I opine that the alleged activities were right, moral or legal.
Congratulations on doing alright for yourself, but I bet you had more help from that evil old gubbmint than you will admit to.
I think JohnE is saying “You didn’t build that”, Instinct.
The employees of these baby killing centers are monsters.
Warning descriptive and horrendous discussion about what really goes on in those mass murder centers.
“A Planned Parenthood executive admits in an undercover video that her doctors alter abortion procedures and she manipulates prices to accommodate specific fetal tissue harvesting requests — including delivering fully intact fetuses — though doing so may violate federal law.”
“In the nearly 16-minute, edited video, the fifth released by Center for Medical Progress, a woman identified as Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, discusses pricing for specimens — ranging from intact fetuses to tissue and organs — for outside tissue procurement companies.”
‘“Yeah, and so if we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget, that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this,”’ Farrell said. ‘“I mean it’s all just a matter of line items.”’
Source: Fox News 4 August 2015
Intact fetal cadavers. Just a matter of line items. This is beyond sick.
You kill babies for profit. A supportive tweet coming from a group who happily profitably chops up babies for literal parts.