Just shut up and kill them
Several people have sent us links to the story about General Hawk Carlisle (cool name, btw), commander of Air Combat Command, who bragged in a speech sponsored by the Air Force Association how airmen targeted one ISIS fellow using social media;
“The [airmen are] combing through social media and they see some moron standing at this command,” Carlisle said at the speech, which was sponsored by the Air Force Association. “And in some social media, open forum, bragging about command and control capabilities for Da’esh, ISIL, And these guys go ‘ah, we got an in.’
“So they do some work, long story short, about 22 hours later through that very building, three JDAMS take that entire building out. Through social media. It was a post on social media. Bombs on target in 22 hours.
“It was incredible work, and incredible airmen doing this sort of thing.”
Yeah, it was incredible work, so why are we telegraphing to the terrorist group how we’re finding them and destroying them? Yeah, it makes for a really nice story about how airmen are doing their jobs, but, do you think that will work from now on?
In the early days of the war against terror, intelligence agencies told the media how they looked at things in the background of videos to locate where terrorists were making their little broadcast messages to the world. Immediately, the terrorists learned to hang a sheet behind them to hide the background, so that didn’t work. Do these people think that our country’s enemies don’t have TVs and access to the media?
General Carlisle, if you find something that works, write about it in your book after the war. We would much rather that you kill these guys in droves than to tell us how you did it. We know that you’re doing everything that you can do, but stop giving away the farm.
The Air Force Times article that I linked to above begins “OPSEC isn’t the Islamic State group’s strong suit.” Apparently, it’s not ours, either.
Category: Politics
Dumbass.
Its the Air Force.
it’s the air force’s brass.*
That is “Air Farce” to you sir!
Yeah, because no other service has ever pulled similar levels of dumb-ass fucktardery in the history of the nation. Ever. EVAR, I tells you….
Sheesh…..
Is this why some people call it the Air Farce?
Ex-PH2,
Sadly, tragically, yes.
Mike
Oh, that’s so sad.
Hey General, ever hear of OPSEC? Nice going, o candyassed pampered perfumed Prince of political correctness.
Senior officers drove me crazy. Many of them just don’t get that OPSEC thing. And if you call them on it, THEY get all huffy and insulted that you would dare tell them they might not want to do that.
Sheesh!
I could hear this guy during WWII: “Thanks to some incredible intel work the Brits call Ultra, we know exactly what the Germans are doing and intend to do in real time.”
“Hawk” is his call sign name. Herbert J. is his real name.
I can see why he goes by Hawk /smile
He can call himself whatever he wants to, but he’ll always be a Big Herbert to me.
He’ll be glad his name wasn’t Richard.
But he probably wears a big watch
Herbert, eh? I’ll just leave this here (smile):
idiot.
What was that they used to say?
Loose lips sink ships.
There’s one less tool in the toolbox in the fight against Isis and a serious tool calling himself Hawk.
That does it! I’m bumping up my scenarios about what my peeps are doing so that the bad guys think we have that stuff. (Is that obscure enough?)
There was a movie made shortly after WWII, based on a novel about the Allied invasion of Europe. ‘The Man Who Never Was’ created a dead spy out of a corpse with a briefcase full of phony documents designed to throw the Axis powers off the scent, and it worked.
Perhaps GEN Hawk should see that movie and then get his mouth sewn shut.
I remember reading that book. Awesome about both the secrecy AND the detail the Allies went to in order to create that believable lie out of whole cloth. A prefect study about what TO do, and what NOT TO do.
I forgot to mention that the book was based on Operation Mincemeat, which did fool the Germans completely.
Now, lets not be so harsh on him. He’s just following the lead of the so-called Commander in Chief who has to spike the football multiple times and dance in the endzone.
I’m sure this will help him get that next promotion, and that’s what it’s all about right? Not about winning, or protecting your assets. It’s about the promotion.
Fucking idiots.
That’s true. He has to butter his bread. I guess he’s on board with the USAF recent decision not to discharge transgenders w/o independent cause being established. Thus, the medical discharge is out and the keep or kick decisions are now in the hands of the transgenders’ commanders. This is designed to ‘help’ commanders make the right decision and ensure they have long careers.
2/17AirCav, for just one secnd there, I thought you said ‘butter his head’.
Almost the same thing in this case.
Here are the keys to the castle … come and get them!
MORONS!
This is how I know that people worried about secret plans for Obama and/or the military to take over and impose martial law are wrong. That would require large numbers of people, including generals and the administration, be able to maintain OPSEC and keep their traps shut. That just is not going to happen.
▲▲▲▲▲ Like ▲▲▲▲▲ Thank you for pointing out why that particular scenario won’t play out.
same reason I always thought the Kennedy killing in Dallas was Oswald’s baby only – no one could keep a secret like that this long, not in our government.
Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but that would require PLANNING. Since when does this administration plan anything like that? It’s more likely he’ll get up one morning, get a particular piece of information he doesn’t like, and he’ll say, “What?! Nah, that’s not gonna happen. HEY, SECRETARY! CALL A MEETING OF THE JOINT CHIEFS! I’M DECLARING MARTIAL LAW TODAY!!”
General, this was best left unsaid.
Hopefully we won’t lose too many opportunities to nail our enemies because of your statement. Or lose too many friendlies because we didn’t.
Air Force….I keep remembering this:
I assume that, thanks to Herbert up there, this will be the last time we get that kind of opportunity, right?
The lack of common sense in this is so consistent with everything else that has happened.
I wonder how these people sleep at night.
“So what time do you come back?”
“I can’t tell you – that’s classified”
Idiot.
I’ll never forget that day at Macho Grande! 😀
I’ll never be over Macho Grande.
My first thought when I heard this a few days ago was what a stupid thing to boast about. My second, and let’s hope it is the right one was that this was just so incredibly stupid it must be a disinformation ploy to keep these assholes from communicating too easily.
My third thought was if the second thought is correct then it is still an incredibly stupid move because we want them to use their cell phones so we can monitor their communications and locations.
Ol’ Poe’s conclusion? No matter how they spin it, it was an incredibly stupid move.
Did you expect anything else from the current
DC clown kreweAdministration, PT?Actually, Hondo, I did wonder if this general wasn’t being a sock puppet for the administration. They do like to boast about their achievements even when doing so shoots them in the foot.
BTW, sorry if I was a little grumpy the other night. No sleep and constant pain from a torn rotator cuff is making me a bit more pissy than the usual old, grumpy-ass Poe.
Whoever said old age ain’t for sissies knew what he was talking about.
Yeah, rotator cuff and/or labrum issues suck. Especially when they’re on the dominant shoulder. Hope you can get yours straightened out reasonably well.
No worries, amigo. We’re good.
Meh. If this is an “OPSEC” violation it’s a pretty minimal one. I mean, c’mon, are we really telling the enemy anything they don’t know? That social media posts about where your HQ is located can be followed?
Do we honestly think that before this announcement ISIS didn’t know that?
Of course (stirring the pot) that’s assuming that the general’s “Story” is even true and is not, in fact, a “cover story” to explain how the location of the HQ was found. 😉
Damn Jumper, put another circle within the circles. They could be covering for an embedded intel asset. If our intel wienies really want to convince the goat-lovers what a bunch of bumbling fools the American brass are, they could send them a link to this comment string.
Minus your contribution and this one, of course.
Ol’ Hawk sure knows about morons.
I was almost grudgingly impressed with Snowden’s NSA records drop. Almost. Then I found he also gave up methods and means for the data collection, and that marks him as a traitor in my book.
This is very close to that, like Barry spiking the football at Osama’s demise.
Two Words:
1. Drone
2. Strike
End of Words.
Over.
With due respect, Master Chief, I prefer:
Scaffold.
Noose.
Drop.
Or go real old school, and two-block him to the yard arm.
All I heard was “Blah blah blah-blah…Bombs on target in TWENTY-TWO HOURS.” They’re PROUD of how long it took to get clearance! Twenty-two MINUTES should be at the long end of the time envelope!