NYPD arrests man for cell phone conversation
The New York Post reports that Elvin Payamps was arrested when an ex-cop overheard a conversation he was having while standing in a bank in regards to his plans to kill a white cop;
“I’m going to kill another cop. We should do it before Christmas. The cop should have been white that was killed. I always have a gun on me,” Elvin Payamps allegedly blabbed over his cellphone.
After his arrest, Payamps, 38, allegedly confessed to the threat and said it was spurred by Saturday’s execution-style shootings of cops Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in Brooklyn, sources said.
“They should have killed two white cops instead of the Hispanic and Asian if the guy really wanted to send a message,” Payamps allegedly said.
After his arrest, police went to his apartment and found a 9mm handgun and a 12-gauge shotgun along with some body armor and brass knuckles, he stole the body armor, I guess. Some in the media are calling it “an arsenal of weapons.” According to the Post, Payamps had criminal contact with the police almost two decades ago.
MSN reports that Payamps won’t be alone in his cell;
At least six New Yorkers have been arrested for making threats against the NYPD since the assassination of two New York police officers in Brooklyn on Saturday, reports the New York Daily News. The department has been investigating at least 40 threats made against police officers in recent days.
Category: Crime
If the media sees one handgun and one shotgun as an “arsenal”, I wonder how they would define my weaponry.
Is their really any difference in looney reporters and looney lawyers? Really?
Yeah, “arsenal” my ass. I have more weapons and ammo than that in my downstairs bathroom.
Then again, I don’t go around threatening to murder people, unlike this asshole. Hopefully he resisted arrest and got the living shit stomped out of him.
I agree that it was bullshit to murder those two officers, but because I’m against murder, especially in the name of a piece of shit like Michael Brown. Sorry, I don’t care what Ferguson PD’s reputation is like; he’s a fucking thug his whole life, tries to murder a cop who kills him in self-defense, cue the “My baby was such a sweet chil’, nevah hurt nobody, and da po-lice done shot ‘im” bullshit, and here we are.
Fuck this guy. Fuck those like him, anarchists, racists, communists, and criminals. Fuck the race-baiters DeBlasio, Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, and Obama.
Sorry, I don’t care what Ferguson PD’s reputation is like;
Well there you go then….perjurers who commit illegal assault and battery are okay with you as long as they wear an LEO uniform…thanks for the heads up.
I’m thinking that had police misconduct been dealt with appropriately each and every time it’s come up in Ferguson over the last 25 years instead of being hidden and tacitly approved the Brown shooting would have aroused zero passion in that community…sometimes the reality is that the trigger event doesn’t need to involve any innocents to become the tipping point for misguided action.
That’s a fair discussion, what should have been done about police misconduct for 25 years instead of nothing….I agree that Brown was a clean shoot and Wilson was justified. Had his perjuring shitbag associates on the PD been terminated when their misdeeds were discovered perhaps officer Wilson could have kept his job and a semblance of a normal life.
Not what I meant, VOV. Police misconduct is not OK with me. My point (admittedly not as well-articulated as it could have been) was that Brown was a criminal shitbird who deserved every bullet he got. Ferguson PD likely could do with some housecleaning, but it’s unfair to lay that at the feet of a single officer with five years in and an apparently clean record, especially when that officer has been proven to have acted in self-defense. The (alleged or otherwise) corruption of Ferguson PD is being trotted out as a bullshit excuse for all kinds of criminality, including murdering lawmen who were 1800 miles away and unconnected to that mess. And that is utter bullshit.
Again, sorry for the poor articulation. Yours is one of many opinions on TAH that I respect.
Thank you for the clarification, perhaps my head was still cloudy from the wine yesterday…
No argument here that burning the town down is no way to advance a tangible viewpoint, but in my estimation it should be an expected outcome when the local population gets to the point where they believe there will be no recourse from the proper authorities and they are on their own against the local PD and local legal system.
The local population in Ferguson might reasonably come to the conclusion when the local magistrate determines there is no need to pursue perjury charges against the police who admitted their lies during the civil case of Henry Davis because Davis only received a minor concussion that their concerns will not be appropriately addressed.
Brown was the trigger event, but the foundation for the outburst has been building for decades in my opinion.
My best to you and your during this Christmas/New Year season.
Thank you again for the clarification and kind words.
Dunno, VoV. Purely for the sake of adding to the discussion, the following things might be pointed out:
Back in the ’80s, at a time when Japanese car companies were basically cleaning Detroit’s clock, there was a management shift floating around called “Theory Z” which at its root was simply the pragmatic idea that if you had a problem, the best way to approach it was to fix the problem instead of fixing the blame for the problem. This is something that has apparently gotten lost lately.
There are precursors for what happens when a law enforcement entity goes sideways. The LAPD, for example, was once upon a time found to have broad issues and, IIRC, operated for a few years under federal consent decree. The key question at this point, at least it seems to me, is if there is a preponderance of evidence, without all the media posturing and preening, that the same criteria should apply to Ferguson.
Something that’s also not on the wider radar is that during the 20 years or so you’re talking about with police abuses in Ferguson, the town was undergoing a demographic shift similar to a lot of other places. During that time, apparently due to a process of gentrification, inner-city blacks in St. Louis were pushed out to suburban fringes such as Ferguson to the extent that a place that was once almost 80 percent white shifted to almost 80 percent black in roughly a generation. All of which might sound like pointy-headed social science, except for the fact that sometimes the numbers don’t lie and do have consequences.
Thanks Perry, I understand your point. Even as recently as 5 years ago in the Davis case 5 officers were involved in a perjury case over a beating of a man in a mistaken identity case. The judge stated that the officers committed perjury as 2 of the 5 admitted such in open court, the judge further stated that it was minor perjury not worth pursuing because the black man didn’t suffer serious life altering injuries and only received a concussion and a bloody head,
None of the officers were disciplined. An incident like that along with the racial profiling data from the Missouri government website that shows Ferguson stops blacks out of proportion to both their percentage in the population and the hit rate on illegal contraband could lead one to believe there is a systemic issue at hand.
Furthermore the lack of action could make a reasonable person assume nothing would ever change there as even the judges are unwilling to pursue officers who admit their lies in open court if the victims are black.
I agree the numbers don’t lie, Ferguson PD sucks, and has for some time.
There is something that has been left out of this that should never have been set aside. This is NOT Watts and the Los Angeles of the 1960s, when the Black Panthers started calling the police ‘pigs’, nor is it Chicago’s south side.
There was plenty of corruption then, and there still is. Most likely it will never really go away but will stick around to embarrass the good cops who are doing their jobs properly, but are guilty by association.
We all know there are good cops and bad cops. What the disruptive protestors who showed up in Ferguson did was blame all cops, because they had no other intention. They were/are anarchists who did not want peaceful protests. I thought then, and still do, that their only intent was to be as destructive as possible and carry it to every city on this continent.
This malignant troll was not going out just to shoot another cop for being ‘white’. He was merely using that as an excuse to kill someone, preferably someone ‘white’ and if possible, wearing a badge.
arsenal…geezus. reporter must live a sheltered life. At least they got this peckerhead though. The po-po got one in Montgomery County, Texas day before yesterday as well.
You add the body armor and I can see their point. Take a way the body armor and the article would have read differently.
The story would be the same, Chief. They just wouldn’t have shown the picture.
Elvin? Payamps? No, I am not above scoffing at someone’s name. He got a double dose. No wonder he hates the world. Then, there are those mirrors.
When I grew up in NYC, they had the Sullivan Law which was one very strict gun possession law. In fact, when we lived upstate I had to have permission to have a pistol in our home. Suffice to say this guy is in deep shit on the possession charge alone.
If you’re traveling anywhere by plane with a weapon, you better pray that you don’t have NYC as an intermediate stop. If you get stuck there for any reason and collect your bags, you will be arrested when you check the bags back in and declare the weapon.
I work in aviation security and I’ve seen that happen a number of times.
Yeah, well, that especially applies to driving on the NJ Tpk as well. Got a badge? Doesn’t matter unless it’s a NJ issue.
it is a far cry from an arsenal. However, I don’t disagree with the arrest. His ass should be locked under the jail.
Standing in a line in a bank and he makes a threat against the life of another cop?
Just reproves what I quickly realized when I was a beat cop: nobody said that criminals are smart.
If they were smart, we’d need far fewer cells and prisons.
Did anyone notice this turd hade a “bullet Proof vest”? Were can I get one?
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If this had happened in my company, he would have found himself in the most uncomfortable prone and leg/testicle position he has ever imagined till NYPD arrived.
Ole’ Irish wrestling maneuver!
Modified illegal shotgun in gun free NYC?
That’s a paddlin’.
Dude looks like Ming from Flash Gordon