Soldier stopped from entering school
According to the Washington Times, Army Lieutenant Colonel Sherwood Baker was denied entry to his daughter’s school while he was wearing his uniform because some rental cop told him that the sight of it might offend someone. Soon after the incident, my inbox started filling up;
“Before he was allowed in, the security guard stopped him and said sorry you’re not allowed in the school. Security told him men and women in uniform weren’t allowed because it may offend another student,” Lt. Col. Sherwood Baker’s wife, Rachel, told a local Fox affiliate.
I tried to get indignant about this, but I can’t. It was a handful of security guards that told the LTC that, not the school. In fact the superintendent of the school system, Robert Shaner, was a Marine and he apologized quickly;
Mr. Shaner’s statement read: “The district has apologized for any perception that individuals in uniform are not welcome in the school. The district does not have a policy excluding individuals in uniform and will be working with administration and the firm that handles our security to make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.”
The security guards probably need a block of instruction, but it’s not a school policy, so I’m just telling you that it happened.
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Fine, it’s not a school policy so don’t bombard the principal and the guards probably need some training; however, the guard in question should get shown the door. He can have plenty of time to think of how stupid he was while he’s pounding the pavement looking for a new job. I no longer have any patience for stupidity and I have no sympathy for those who act stupidly.
Exactly. This says more about the $12 an hour losers wearing windbreakers that are ruining our lives. The power trip these security guards are on is unbelievable. Their job is to keep some people out, not keep all people out.
I agree Mustang. It seems that we as a country are just eaten up with the dumbass and it is fostered and excused. Maybe if we stop making excuses for and praising stupid, it will go back down to a manageable level.
My thoughts are clearly documented on this matter as far as how school security guards should act against enemies:
“You’ve got to be a one-man fighting force….
You’ve got to have enough guns, and ammunition and body armor to stay alive…. You should be walking around in schools every day in complete tactical equipment, with semi-automatic weapons…. You can no longer afford to think of yourselves as peace officers…. You must think of yourself [sic] as soldiers in a war because we’re going to ask you to act like soldiers.”
– John Giduck, keynote address – National Association of School Resources Conference (2007)
sincerely
John “Faker 6” Giduck
Just ignore what others say about in their books about my school security initiatives
http://thetruthaboutsocnetlies.wordpress.com/2013/06/14/more-voices-annette-fuentes-book-blasts-john-giduck/
They are just haters. I feel the love here on TAH.
sincerely
John “Faker 6” Giduck
Well written John “Have shovel will travel”
That Military Equipment to police program list of equipment transferred did NOT include entrenching tools… maybe Faker 6 could get that modified.
My take on the Security Guard at the school… of course this is how his actions portray him, as I have no idea what type of “rocket scientist” he may be in reality.
Dumbass “rent-a-cop”, just newly hired from his role as a Mall Cop. Probably got disqualified from enlisting in the Military for being an obese, donut eating, non grad, asshole…
He needs to fired if he hasn’t been already, and the rest of the Schools private gestapo needs some retraining.
My answer would have been “If a person in uniform might upset someone then you and your uniform are leaving with me. Does not tell if the rent-a-cop is armed? The guard being armed would worry me as to how much he had? Joe
Sorry, Jonn – gotta disagree. I’m somewhat pissed.
The school (or school district) hired the guards; the school (or school district) is thus responsible for their conduct while they’re performing their duties guarding the school.
The principal seems to be handling this one correctly. Still, they bear some of the responsibility. The guards should not be making up access policy out of thin air – that should be based on guidance from school officials. If the school officials aren’t providing proper guidance, PC idiocy like this crap will happen.
Let me give an alternative that illustrates my point that even libidiots should understand. Many US citizens/residents apparently find the sight of a burqa or chadoor offensive; ditto a yarmulke. Imagine the outrage and uproar if the guard had tried to refuse an individual entrance with their son/daughter on those grounds.
There should be no less outrage over this idiocy.
Maybe the school could have a closet full of loaner Chadoris. “LTC. I can’t let you in dressed like that, but here, you can slip this Afghan trash bag over your head and go right in, Sir!”
Hondo,
I am going to disagree with you slightly.
You wrote: “The principal seems to be handling this one correctly.”
I don’t see anything in the article that talks about the principal of the school. The only comment I see is from the school district’s superintendent who is not the principal.
Correct, gitarcarver. My error – read the article last night and didn’t re-read it again before commenting. Was working from fallible memory regarding who said that there was no such policy in effect. Memory told me it was the school principal, and this time memory erred.
To be fair, ACUs are gross. The rent-a-cop must be a fan of the new Scorpion pattern.
I bettcha if he was wearing a burka … he would have been let right in without looking for a suicide vest first!
According to http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/26491600/army-officer-is-told-he-cant-enter-his-daughters-high-school-because-hes-wearing-his-uniform, “Baker says he was simply coming to the school to speak with his daughter’s counselor regarding her class schedule but was turned away at the doors because he was not wearing a tie.”
Block of instruction my ass. The rent-a-cop needs a block of wood used on him.
Utter stupidity.
Out.
I live near Rochester MI. The place is liberal as it comes.
If you ask me, LTC Baker would have been justified in punching that rent-a-cop in the nuts. That he didn’t do that, or at least advise the douche to violently fuck himself, speaks volumes about the LTC’s restraint, maturity, and overall quality.
This was purely a dick move with zero justification. If the Paul Blart in question really didn’t come up with it on his own, them there needs to be serious consequences for whoever gave him that idea. Like Hondo and the Master Chief pointed out, they wouldn’t have pulled this shit for somebody in sharia-approved garb, or somebody in a pink gay pride t-shirt. But they think it’s appropriate to do it to an Army officer, or any member at any rank of any branch? Would he try to deny entry to a police officer on the same grounds?
Bottom line, fire those responsible.
He had to have received that direction to prevent uniformed personnel from entering the school from someone in authority. Most of these guys don’t have the initiative or brain power to think of this on their own. Need to figure out WHO told him uniforms weren’t allowed, then punish THAT person.
If, by some miracle, he did actually think of that of his own accord, then he should go.
I have a hard time believing the guard just pulled this policy out of thin air. Somewhere he’s getting guidance that resulted in this. Whether he misunderstood that guidance is an open question but I really doubt the superintendent is completely on the level here.
A lot of school districts are farming out security to private firms, mainly because real cops are just as scary as soldiers. And more expensive than a mall ninja.
There have been several stories lately where these mouth breathers have made asses of themselves by arbitrarily making up rules that having nothing to do with district policy.
And in each case, the local school administrators need to be held accountable along with the idiots they hired.
Why? Because by hiring idiots and failing to give adequate guidance and direction, they accepted responsibility for the resulting acts of idiocy.
Those rent-a-cops need more than a block of instruction. They need a block of boots shoved up their asses. Useless queefs.
Now if he was sporting a purple mohawk and a t-shirt with “FUCK” emblazoned across the front, said slovenly fatassed POS rent-a-fuzz probably would have let him in. Where was that idiot trained, The Chevalier Academy of Cheese?
Yes, and distinguished graduates from the Chevalier Academy of Cheese (located in Sweaden) are also presented with a free 2 year membership in MESNA!
Yay! Go MESNA!
Does this “guard” carry so much as a can of hairspray to use against a potential assailant? If not, then what’s the point of paying for “security?” Not that this particular numbnut should have access to weapons of any kind, lethal or otherwise. Either way, that school, its students, and parents are getting ripped off.
This stupidity in this story goes even further.
FoxNews is reporting that when Baker was turned away, there were at least 3 members of the school’s staff watching the conversation between Baker and the Security Guard.
Not one of them said anything, moved to intervene, or went looking for clarification.
These “educational professionals” stood by and let this travesty happen to a man who was willing to put his life on the line to protect them from harm.
I have a sneaky suspicion that the policy of turning men and women in uniform from school came from the administration of the school.
That administration should face consequences of some type.
No way I believe this wasn’t a policy and that they just acted upon their own. Somebody told them to do it.
That’s right. Those rentacops don’t get paid enough to think, which drives home the lesson that you get what you pay for.
Very few people working get paid to “think”. Harping on “rent a cops” is absurd. 9 out of 10 people working would do as policy says because they don’t want to lose their jobs or create some shitstorm over something.
You have a pretty elitist view point. If I was a “rent a cop” here and your bitch ass rolled up with that attitude I’d give you shit too.
I truly believe that there is no policy from the district on something like this.
I think the individual school made the policy on its own.
When you read the statement from the superintendent, that is the only thing that makes sense as he says they are addressing the issue with the company that supplies the security and the administration (singular) of the school.
If it was a district policy, one would think (and hope) that the policy would be communicated to the administrations (plural) of the multiple schools in the district, and not just this one school.
In short, no policy to prevent the entrance from the district, but rather policy from the individual school.
It’s hard to tell the back-story on this, but my own experience has been that policy is usually set by a district school board of elected officials. They’re the ones typically responsible for hiring a district-wide security company, and have the ability to fire the superintendent.
School boards also tend to be notorius about bending to the kind of soccer mom ninja nitwits who insist on kale smoothies, and gluten-free buns for the tofu hotdogs in the school cafeteria. Exactly the sort who would insist on a policy just in case, possibly, their special snowflake kid might be offended by somebody in uniform. Maybe.
Dollars to donuts the LTC was not aware of the goofy school policy, and wouldn’t have shown up in uniform if he had been.
What also hasn’t been mentioned is the effect on the LTC’s daughter. How would you like to be a kid and get ragged on by your classmates because your dad had to lock horns with Blutto the rent-a-cop?
Never underestimate the capacity for stupidity in any Government entity!