Paying off Hasan

| May 21, 2013

Arby sent us a link to an NBC story which reports that, although it’s almost a foregone conclusion that Nidal Hasan is guilty of at least thirteen counts of murder and scores of counts of attempted murder, he’s still rolling in dough;

The Department of Defense confirms to NBC 5 Investigates that accused Fort Hood shooter Major Nidal Hasan has now been paid more than $278,000 since the Nov. 5, 2009 shooting that left 13 dead 32 injured. The Army said under the Military Code of Justice, Hasan’s salary cannot be suspended unless he is proven guilty.

If Hasan had been a civilian defense department employee, NBC 5 Investigates has learned, the Army could have suspended his pay after just seven days.

Personnel rules for most civilian government workers allow for “indefinite suspensions” in cases “when the agency has reasonable cause to believe that the employee has committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment may be imposed.”

Meanwhile, his victims struggle with their injuries as Hasan and his lawyers make a joke out of the military justice system. If the moron won’t shave his beard off in keeping with Army regulations, why does the Army have to pay him, FFS?

“There have been times when my wife and I cannot afford groceries. We cannot afford gas in our car,” [one of Hasan’s victims, Army Spc. Logan] Burnett said. “Literally, times where we ate Ramen noodles for weeks on end. This [that Hasan is still earning a paycheck] makes me sick to my stomach,” said Burnett.

Burnett isn’t alone in his outrage.

“We’re giving the defendant in this case every benefit of the doubt. But yet we’re not giving the benefits to the victims,” said Rep. Thomas Rooney (R) Florida

Rooney, a former prosecutor at Fort Hood, recently signed a bi-partisan letter urging defense secretary Chuck Hagel to “…reclassify the victims’ deaths and injuries as ‘combat related’…”

The letter said the current situation has “…resulted in an embarrassing lack of care and treatment for the victims and their families.”

If the Army ever acquires the testicular fortitude to execute Hasan, they’ll probably pay his SGLI benefit to his bereaved family.

Category: Terror War

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NR Pax

“…reclassify the victims’ deaths and injuries as ‘combat related’…”

A request that will ultimately go nowhere because the current Administration refuses to believe that Hasan could possibly be a terrorist.

PintoNag

This makes me so angry, I literally can’t think of anything to say. Where is the justice in this country anymore?

A_Proud_Infidel

Justice? It’s taking a backseat to Political Correctness, lest b. Hussein 0bama’s fellow muzzies get offended!

David

Think NR Pax has it right… with such a stunning litany of foreign policy failures under theor collective belt, the administration clings to “see? No successful Islamist terrorist attacks on OUR watch” as their sole high point.
Admitting that a serving Army officer was radicalized and carried out an extremely successful attack is NOT in the cards. Not unless they can claim somehow Bush was responsible, and that dog just won’t hunt.

NHSparky

@1–only veterans who served honorably, Tea Party types, pro-lifers, and supporters of Israel are terrorists according to this administration.

ChipNASA

Someone just SHOOT HIM already….sheesh…..
Right in the FACE…..

ChipNASA

Hasan that is…..not B.O……(knock knock knock knock )

B Woodman

#6 Chip. I’ll pitch in a few dollars for that.

TheCloser

If you want protection from the Irrelevant Leader, join the Obama Brotherhood.

Sparks

@6 and @8 I will donate my weapon and ammo.

Ex-PH2

The Navy & Marine Corp have a fund called Navy Marine Corps Relief, which can provide emergency assistance to Navy and Marine personnel and families.

Does the Army have nothing like this?

A_Proud_Infidel

Yes, the AEF, Army Emergency Fund.

SFC D

He should have just been turned over to Texas for prosecution. They move quick on capital cases.

Anonymous in Jax

What is the holdup here? Why is it taking so long for things to move forward?

Phil

What is his situation ref lawyers? Does he have an Army lawyer supplied at no cost to him? Does he have a civilian lawyer that is billing him and presumably sucking up most, if not all of his pay? Is his pay being held back and could presumably be recovered when he is found guilty and given a fine equal to the accrued pay?

Anonymous in Jax

Do the families of those killed have the ability to file a wrongful death suit once he’s found guilty? If so, maybe it’s good that he’s getting his pay….maybe then he can be forced to shell it out to the families of those he killed and terrorized.

Flagwaver

This pisses me off to no end. The Army could have stopped him, but they were so concerned about profiling that they didn’t. Profiling? The ONLY people to have done these kinds of attacks are Muslims. However, we are ignoring all Muslims because it might be considered profiling.

That’s like putting out an APB for a convenience store robbery/murderer and not listing his race because it happens to be Black, and that would be profiling (it has actually happened). It is insanity.

smoke-check

GD Jonn! Shouldn’t shoot the messenger and all, but you have ruined my morning. I cannot see anything through this red haze in my eyeballs.

hoosierbeagle

every day he refuses to shave is a day you can hit him with NJP. Fine his goat loving ass till all the money is gone…

PintoNag

The story on MSM is showing Hasan clean-shaven. Old photo?

What Proud Infidel said in #3 appears to be holding steady.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

““There have been times when my wife and I cannot afford groceries. We cannot afford gas in our car,” [one of Hasan’s victims, Army Spc. Logan] Burnett said. “Literally, times where we ate Ramen noodles for weeks on end. This [that Hasan is still earning a paycheck] makes me sick to my stomach,” said Burnett.”

It should make everyone in this nation sick to their stomachs on a number of levels, not the least of which is an administration that doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to call a terrorist a terrorist FFS….leaders lead, but not this crowd they cover their 4sses first and sh1t on the rest of us in the process with nary a thought as to what service to the nation means or requires.

That this piece of sh1t hasn’t been strapped down and shaved, and we are more worried about his right to a prayer rug than his victims’ right to weekly sustenance should be an endless source of embarrassment to our elected officials and our military leadership for their cowardice in this situation.

Ex-PH2

Hasan is a coward. His attorneys are enabling his cowardice.

His paycheck could go a long way toward compensating his 32 living victims. They could at least put food on the table.

He committed this act in front of witnesses. What the hell is the problem with putting a bullet through this POS’s brain?

Ex-PH2

Also, I found this page for Ft. Hood’s assistance program.

http://www.hoodmwr.com/acs/iro_specialpage3.html

Were these people not getting any help from that source? IF not, then why not?

Nik

Where is the justice in this country anymore?

Justice is blind. Obama’s administration took away the cane.

Anon in Kandahar

What Hassan did is beyond words. He will likely die in Leavenworth with a needle in his arm, or a shank in his back. This story about him gettin paid though is a red herring intended to target the military and make he military justice system look broke and incompetent. This is written by e same people who feel the military does not prosecute or care about sexual assault. This is the perfect patsy story for those who want to take military justice away from the military and put it in civilian hands. You put e most unsympathetic target, “Hassan” with a great catch line, “Hassan got paid over $268,000 while awaiting trial, and then you quote the victim ,”SPC raman noodles” throw a ,”DOD confirms” in there and you get a great non story that makes the Army look bad.

Any brand new JAG could tell you that the UCMJ has always (since 1952) paid soldiers who are in confinement facing court-martial charges. This is not a news story it is some research looking at a GD Manual for Courts-Martial and going, “gee whiz Nidal Hassan is still getting poaid? That is sure stupid. the Army is stupid. See how stupid the Army is.”

Get angry that the victims are not being treated like victims of a terrorist. Not that Soldier (and he is still a Soldier whether we like to admit it or not) is getting paid his salary while he is confined, per the UCMJ.

sapper3307

The army has AER and they are blood from a stone when it comes to their money. Even though the money comes from the troops they are supposed to support. p.s beat Hasan to death with a sack of glass.

2/17 Air Cav

I say F him. What they should have done was to deny him pay and let him freakin’ sue for it, the bastard.

2/17 Air Cav

@16. How you gonna get it when it’s spent? He can donate the money to the local mosque or give it to family. There are no restrictions on it.

SFC Holland

Over a hundred witnesses. We are weak. There should still be a way to cut through the nonsense and get this guy dead soon. He is costing lots of money, and his existence is an affront to everyone. Kill him and be done with it. Saddam took less time to kill. Only comfortable societies like ours have first world problems like this. How many liberals live in Romania or Czech? How many liberals live in Niger? It’s hard to care for pet causes when you are hungry and defending your home.

dfgdsfgsd

Where is the common fucking sense in the world?

OWB

Is there really a requirement that the criminal case be adjudicated before a civil wrongful death case can be filed?

Of course, even if not, who would have thought it would take this long and we would still not have his ordered, and properly judged, death? Had anyone known that, perhaps a few civil cases would have been filed.

dfgdsfgsd

@29 Couldn’t have said it better myself.

FatCircles0311

US Army is retarded. Unfuck yourselves, please.

A_Proud_Infidel

@30, it’s been buried under a mountain of political correctness.

Joe Williams

Do we have a court date confirmed yet ? Will the defense ask for a delay again? We know the verdict but will the CM have the balls to deliver the death sentence ? Surpised that some lawyer has not started a class action against the goverment for calling the killings workplace voilence, This PC crap has got to end somewhere so the victims can get what they need for recovery. Are the victims not still Army,What is their status ? I am tired of questions swriling thru my mind. I want action and answers that we are taking care of our own, Joe

Joe Williams

PS Seems to me illegals have better treatment and benefits than our Army wounded. Joe