I want to hear this story
I want to know what two women out delivering newspapers could do to make the Los Angeles Police Department think that they were a single large black man on a killing rampage. I want to hear that story. But, of course, we’re not hearing it from the LA Times;
Two women who were shot by Los Angeles police in Torrance early Thursday during a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer were delivering newspapers, sources said.
The women, shot in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue, were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase said. They were not identified. One was shot in the hand and the other in the back, according to Jesse Escochea, who captured video of the victims being treated.
It was not immediately known what newspapers the women were delivering. After the shooting, the blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers lay in the street alongside.
Of course, this is the same police department that made news for a week by by paying $200 for an inert piece of fiberglass that they called a rocket propelled grenade launcher. It sounds to me that Dorner dodged a bullet by getting kicked off of the LAPD force. He should be grateful that he’s no longer associated with these pants wetters. Yeah, Unless he offs himself, Dorner is going to be shot by the LAPD. That’s fairly obvious at this point. But at this point, if anyone from the LAPD finds his lifeless body, they’ll still shoot it up so it doesn’t come back Hollywood style and kill them all.
LA residents should seriously stay off the streets, not because of Dorner.
Thanks to Old Trooper for the link.
Category: Politics
Thank GOD I don’t live in LA or in Kalifornia, period. A mentally retarded one-eyed orangutan on LSD could do a better job than those LAPD jokers. Thugs and punks with badges that think that gives them the authority to harass, badger, and bully whomever they please.
Charles Rane:
I served in Iraq from 2005 until 2006 and there was still blue on blue regardless of the positive ID rules. And Marines did not have less latitude to shoot then officers in the United States when I was there. Would almost guarantee these officers have been put on admin leave until the investigation is completed. There is no doubt money will be paid out to the 3 innocent people involved.
After retiring as an amtrack platoon sergeant in 1999 when into law enforcement like many other Marines. Was recalled in 2005 and served with II MEF(FWD) at Camp Fallujah. Situations involving possibly armed individuals is extremely stressful regardless if overseas or stateside. My main point is still why judge all officers by a few knuckleheads, unless you already have a dislike of the police.
That is some piss poor marksmanship. Chief Parker would be rolling in his grave…. What does Darryl Gates have to say abou these two incidents? This is getting stoopid. The Governor needs to call in the Guard and relieve the LAPD of their duties.
Living in Fairfax County, the PD here has plenty of vets and NG/Reserve folks, I haven’t heard the “I would have served, but…” Excuse that I’ve heard from cops in other areas. I would hope the officers in both incidents are one admin leave pending the investigation of the incidents, but, being the LAPD, I doubt it very much.
Obviously none of us were there, but I wonder if the LAPD even bothered to conduct a felony stop and try to ID the passengers, or did they just exit their car and start shooting?
M.I.L. said before the shooting started, there were 4 police choppers in the air over the neighborhood for some time. From the sounds (rumor control, natch) the police saw the paper delivery pickup in front of the house of an individual that was named in Dorner’s manifesto, and what happened next is running amock in my imagination…
@55: By the looks of it, they stopped the truck and opened up, since all the holes in the backside.
I understand they are a little jumpy, but shooting up a couple of women and a man in a separate incident isn’t going to sit well with the community, either.
@57 Nah, they were probably leaning out the window shooting at high speed like in the movies. That’s about all I can think of that explains the spread.
@57, I’m willing to bet that the door was left open after they removed the injured for transport to the hospital.
USMCE8Ret:
Thought the same thing when first heard of these shootings.
Old Trooper:
You’re right and the community has good reason to be upset; hopefully they won’t blame all officers because of poor judgment by a few. When people are jumpy they can make poor decisions. Lord knows there were too many blue on blue incidents in Desert Storm and Iraq.
LAPD is considered by most Libtards as the ideal and most trained police force in the states. Shit like this certainly says otherwise. No positive ID before they opened fire on civilians. I’m not sure if I suggest they hit the range because in this case that is what saved these innocent people. I’m pro police but this is wrong and ridiculous. It looks like amateur hour of incredibly scared and poorly trained officers.
@60 don’t compare friendly fire in a combat zone to a couple of trigger happy cops, they didn’t even warn the two women or try to make a felony stop.. Police do this stuff because they know they will get away with it.
Interesting video from El Cajon here in Southern California. Reference how even cops can have situations that can be deadly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhBs4cDWyk
The Dude:
Will express my opinions until Jonn tells me to stop.
Yat Yas, the Dude is stoned out of his tiny mind. He just said so right here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=34056&cpage=2#comment-764527
He’s a jerk. Pay him no mind.
@59: I’m sorry, I should have said “started blasting”, instead of “opened up”.
@63 and 64.. how am i jerk man? the weather up here sucks today nothing to do but blaze and listen to music and read a little
yityas i would argue that most of the people on this site agree with me on this one.
Ex-PH2:
Can understand how people are upset at these 2 shootings, just don’t understand bad mothing all officers. Many of us are prior military and most are conservative as well as quite a few with kids or family serving in the military.
One of the reasons for first coming to this site was Jonn deservedly slapping IVAW and the left around for trying to smear veterans because of a few knuckleheads. That and exposing all the phonies.
YatYas, there’s a difference between cops being jumpy and over-reacting, which is what is going on in LAPD, and cops who really are bad cops like ex-Chicago cop John Burge, who is now in jail for torturing confessions out of suspects because they were blacks.
Looks like the LA cops are as good a shot as the NYC cops that shot those 17 innocent bystanders.
Between these incidents and all the failed no-knock raids, I think we need the 2nd Amendment to protect us from the cops.
Maybe why they were so quick to shoot is-“It involved LAPD detectives from the Hollywood division, who were reportedly on a protective detail for an LAPD captain and his family named in Dorner’s manifesto.” Courtesy KTLA Los Angeles
The comment above is not a smear of the entire LAPD. Maybe they were out their environment, on unfamiliar turf?
Ex-PH2:
Agree, my point was that a few officers overreacted, but the thousands in Los Angeles and Southern California handled the every day calls while also being on the lookout for Dorner. Some comments have made it sound like officers are all trigger happy, corrupt or that the police are worse than criminals. Where I work in SoCal, there were a lot of “WTF” about the above shootings.
Looking at the truck, it looks like LAPD couldn’t hit fish in a barrel. So who really hit the women? Crips? Bloods? Latin Kings? You know, the folks with basic marksmanship training.
@66 “The Dude” – you wrote, “… i would argue that most of the people on this site agree with me on this one.” That’s a pretty big assumption, considering the audience you’re writing to on this blog. There’s a mix of combat and non-combat veterans here so generally see eye to eye on things, and I understood what Yatyas was getting at.
In answer to your comment… Um, no – I, for one, don’t agree with you.
…and stop smoking pot. It’s fucking with your mind and we’re not impressed.
I want a count of the holes in that house-shaped backstop.
Very good point jwt @75.
Kinda makes me think of Guerena…I wonder if one of the cops tripped causing a ND.
It’s almost as though LAPD is challenging the NYPD for worst marksmanship crown.
@78 – They could host an invitational, olympic-style non-shooting competition and show it on ESPN. That’d be a hoot to watch.
Just imagine – the nations worst shooters competing all in one place?
@72: Well, if they can hold legal gun owners responsible for the actions of a very few and try to take our rights away because of it, we can hold the entire police department responsible for a few dumbasses with poor marksmanship skills that shoot first and ask questions later; can’t we?
@74 ok and I am a combat veteran and I disagree with you, just because someone is a vet doesn’t mean they think a certain way, most of the vets I know are pretty liberal but they are also in their 20s so alot of it is generational.
I have a pretty healthy dislike for liberals and conservatives since I found dudeism and pacifism.
@81 – Brilliant.
Simply must ask – did none of the cops who shot at this truck notice that the driver was either throwing newspapers onto people’s lawns or placing them in a paper box at the curb? Seems like if any of them watched the vehicle long enough to notice that it was driving slowly and stopping from time to time they would have figured out what was going on.
@83 – One would like to wish they did, but it’s not likely. I saw somewhere where the LAPD chief wants to investigate the Dorner dismissal. Not sure what that will accomplish.
He needs to focus on investigating this shooting, and take another look at training and marksmanship, though.
Hey, ‘The Dude’, just because a guys in MENSA, doesn’t make him smart. Fobbit…