Breanna Manning’s sentence reduced
This is the most ridiculous thing I can think of; Jerry 920 sends us a link from the Associated Press that the judge in the Breanna Manning trial, Col. Denise Lind, has determined that Manning’s sentence will be reduced because she has determined that he was mistreated while he was being held at Quantico.
Lind found that Manning suffered illegal pretrial punishment during nine months in a Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va. She awarded a total of 112 days off any prison sentence Manning gets if he is convicted.
Manning was confined to a windowless cell 23 hours a day, sometimes with no clothing. Brig officials say it was to keep him from hurting himself or others.
The judge said that Manning’s confinement was “more rigorous than necessary.” She added that the conditions “became excessive in relation to legitimate government interests.”
He hasn’t even been sentenced yet, so how is she knocking time off of his sentence when he hasn’t even been declared guilty. And what if his sentence is life? How do you knock 112 days off a life sentence? I guess this is her way of telling us he’s not going to get life.
Category: Military issues
This country is screwed…
Can’t be too mean to the wanna be twunt …
How is this guy and Major Hassan still alive? Where is the justice in our justice system?
I first took a hard line on this character, calling him a disgrace to my career field (Intelligence) when I was holding back the four-letter words I normally used to describe him. But after 9/11/2012, I’m not so sure. I mean, it sure would have been nice to have him working in the White House Situation Room that night.. we might actually know what happened in Benghazi by now instead of playing the Obama/Clinton shell game. I guess perspective changes nearly everything.
P.S. – he’s still a douchebag, but not on the level of Nidal Hassan.
What a bunch of crap. So basically every day he was in Quantico she says she’s going to knock off his sentence. Fk that. As a Marine, it does give me great pride and pleasure to know that his stay with the Marines was so horrible that they had to send him to LEAVENWORTH to make him feel better. Maybe it’s just a stereotype, but I was always under the impression that Leavenworth was about the worst place ever. Whatever, I hope the little creampuff gets lots of shower time. Oh wait, he’s into that kinda stuff anyway.
Speaking of the useless and ineffective military justice system, we haven’t gotten our weekly Hanan’s Beard update this week. What gives?
I guess this is her way of telling us he’s not going to get life.
Or maybe it’s just the opposite. Maybe Col Lind is saying “Sure…what the heck. I’ll give you 112 days off your eventual sentence. Now, will you shut up?”, knowing it’s effectively useless in the case of an anticipated life sentence.
Life NEVER means life unless you die in prison. It is freakin’ amazing that Her Highness has given Babs a sentence credit before he has a sentence. That’s strange stuff there.
@6. Here’s your update. He is still a traitor, a murderer, a terrorist, incontinent and shits in a bag. Oh, and he is still bearded. So far as I know, there remains no trial date.
It’s a Federal rap, so as I understand it, that means no parole, no good behavior. In that case, doesn’t life mean a person with a life sentence would just plain end up dying in prison?
I wonder if the Pendleton 8 will get a review for how they were treated before they were charged:
http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2006/06/14/american_troops_in_shackles/page/full/
(Well, okay, I don’t really wonder that.)
On the plus side, it’s good to see lefties take an interest in the well-being of a soldier.
I wonder, once Brianna’s in Leavenworth for life, if we can find someone else on the inside who can be persuaded to make B’s life just a liiiitle bit more hellish.
Just a thought. . . .
@10. You are right. Off the top of my head, a Federal sentence commenced after some certain date in 1987 is not subject to parole. I have to poke around on the life angle a bit and get back. For some reason, I still think lifers in Federal prison can be tossed out before their natural or unnatural expiration date.
@13
It’s the thought of some of those shitbags being in Federal prison for literally the rest of their life that keeps me warm on cold, cold nights.
The motion to dismiss the charges last September stemmed in part from Breanna not getting a speedy trial, coupled with the length of his pre-trial confinement. I’d give the judge a little credit on this one since one judge has already been removed from hearing the case. In the interest of justice here, I think it’s a compromise because, IMO, had she not done something to appease trial counsel, part of his sentencing (or maybe the whole thing) could possibly come apart during the appeal process.
Besides, we certainly don’t want to hear about this thing getting dragged out any longer just to see this tried again in 2 years, right? If there is any justice in this world, I hope it comes out in the end for this shit bag and for Maj Hasan.
Beyond that, I share the sentiments in #5. I’m glad his stay in Quantico was a pleasant one. That’s the least he deserved, but much more for selling out his country.
@14. Stay warm–and thirsty, my friend. A life term in Federal prison is indeed a life term! The shenaigans played by states of 15, 20, or 25 year minimums for life have no applicability to Federal sentences and, what’s more, the limited credits available for many Federal prisoners DO NOT APPLY to those serving life. Ahhh, justice.
Dammit. Once I screwed with my tag, I screwed my tag.
@12. A half a pack of smokes and a Snickers bar to the right individual would probably do wonders for Briannas ability to make new friends and experience new things (well maybe not ‘new’)
Guys, you have to forgive me this one. That’s why the Army is the Army and the guys at Quantico are Marines. As a “chaser” I put a number of brain dead, in bred, retard Jarheads in the brig, for UA and who knows what else, and they all would rather have stayed in civilian jails. “The treatment was better”! This little pig-eyed bitch deserves every second of what ever sentence is handed down by the panel! “It’s” earned it and deserves it. Maybe the judge needs to change her panties, have a stiff…drink and rethink her motion.
Fuck this clown.
Turd.
Every time I think about what happened to the guys that I had to drop off at Charlies Chicken Farm (CCF, or Central Containment Facility) I smile I smile inside knowing what is awaiting this turd.
I expect Manning and Hasan will be roomies at Leavenworth.
I also expect both will not serve much time, nor be put to death by the POTUS (it takes an order from the POTUS to put a servicemember in Leavenworth and Mannheim to death).
I say the former because Manning gets him some man for dessert every night, and Hasan can’t do anything about it. Likewise, Hasan can strangle Manning in the name of jihad and safe sex all he wants.
What we’ve seen in the last 4 years from the Prognazis is a deliberate abandoning of the rule of law. Military law, as a tool of a military that Obama and his advisors spent decades working against. Military law is also an instrument of ordinary Americans who, through their Congress, set the boundaries for their military. The same Congress that the POTUS has repeatedly told his hoplites that he work around.
By giving Manning and Hasan a few years or less, the POTUS will undermine “good order and discipline” and destroy the American military as an instrument of Good and of freedom.
I think this is a non-issue. And I agree with @7: no matter what the sentence, all defendants are credited with time served. So, by issuing this order, she is taking the path of least resistance AND does not affect the ultimate outcome of the trial or sentencing. So what am I missing about all the hand-wringing?
If he was a Col. and a West Pointer (Johnson 173rd) he would be set free and given “Double secret probation.”
This poor Soldier must be given a fair trial. (then when the POS is found guilty) given a life sentence. So if you take 120 days off a life sentence, what’s that work out to?
Ok, I understand this looks bad, but credit for pre-trial confinement and even increased credit (more than one day per pay confined) is really very common. This is particularly the case when the confinement is “rigorous” (i.e. solitary cell confinement for 23 hours a day).
What is the real offshoot? Well if (really when) he is convicted and handed a 10 year sentence, that will become a 9.5 year sentence or whatever. If he gets a life sentence, the 120 day thing is simply tossed out.
This is a standard rule of Military Law. It makes sense really considering that pesky innocent till proven guilty thing our society believes in.
(in the interests of full disclosure, I am a JA but have not dealt with this issue since JAOBC so I am not the last word)
I say give them rope and a step latter and maybe they will save a trial and all.