Nader: Bush was stupid, but Obama is a war criminal
I’ve always thought Ralph Nader was flaky, but today he does an interview with Politico which proves it. He gives George W Bush a pass on his “war-mongering” because Nader claims he was he was ignorant, but because Obama taught the Constitution, he should know better;
“He’s gone beyond George W. Bush in drones, for example. He thinks the world is his plate, that national sovereignties mean nothing, drones can go anywhere. They can kill anybody that he suspects and every Tuesday he makes the call on who lives and who dies, supposed suspects in places like Yemen and Pakistan and Afghanistan, and that is a war crime and he ought to be held to account.”
Nader called Obama “below average because he raised expectation levels. What expectation level did George W. Bush raise?… He’s below average because he’s above average in his intellect and his knowledge of legality, which is violating with abandon.”
But, apparently a war criminal for president is better than the alternative;
He’s the lesser of two evils when compared to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But he said Obama is “the more effective evil because he brings credibility, he brings the democratic heritage to it, he has legitimized the lawless war-mongering and militarism abroad of George W. Bush.”
He’s the lesser of two evils because Romney represents the rich, plundering Wall Street types;
As for Romney, Nader said “he’s not the old Romney, governor of Massachusetts. He’s had a character and personality makeover. He’s just bought into the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, represented by Paul Ryan, and I don’t think he’s going to be able to shake that. He’s basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”
If Romney is from the “extreme right”, I’d hate to think how Nader would characterize me.
The good news coming out of the interview is that Nader says he might be through with his quadrennial runs at the White House. I’m sure that’s a terrible blow to his supporter.
Category: 2012 election
I didn’t even know he was still alive
Who the hell is Ralph Nadder
Thanks Ralph, it’s awful how the “extreme right wing” has actually proposed a budget where the deficit initially increases and saves Medicare for people up to a decade from retirement. Once again, Mr. Nader proves he really does answer the question what would happen if Noam Chomsky stopped being a hack professor and became a hack ex-presidential Green candidate non-factor.
Thanks, Ralph. You never fail to disappoint.
God I wish ole Ralphie Boy was running in this election.
“violating with abandon”? That doesn’t make any sense.
How can Ralph say that someone who “makes the call on who lives and who dies”, with the use of drones, is the lesser of two evils?
Ralph Nader used to be a consumer advocate, looking into which products were good/safe to use vs. bad/unsafe to use. He seems to have gone ’round the bend.
Ralph can always count on the support of Chevy Corvair enthusiasts.
Nader is to Communism, what Reagan was to freedom.
Nader can go piss up a rope! Damn Lebanese turd.
how can a pussy like Obama be a war criminal?
Maybe thats what we need about now, a hard nosed sob who can turn things around. The opinions of Nader et al be damned.
Ralph Nader … what a dingleberry.
John, He’s not running again because his Supporter passed away! Nader is a true dipshit and nothing more. resurfacing every now and again just to see if any one knows about him or cares what he has to say. I have ran into folks that have actually taken some of his shit serious, I just re-tie the long sleeve jacket and have them taken back to their padded room.
Well, Liberals and conservatives seem to all unite in their belief that Nader is truly a dipshit.
I will agree with you on that, Sippy. IMO Nader’s been “out to lunch” for about the last 40 years – if not longer.
Indeed, one book on what was a fun, if poorly designed, car and this 4sshole has never stopped running for president and “journalists” have never missed a chance to interview this out of date, out of touch sad excuse fake intellectual….
Corvairs were a blast if you took the time to fix the sh1tty rear suspension and made sure you understood the single piece steering column was a deadly impaler in a wreck…turbocharged, light, fast, what’s not to like? F#ck Nader and his whacko viewpoint.
I learned to drive a standard transmission on my mother’s orchid ’65 Corvair.
My dad had the convertible Corvair Monza Jonn, and because he also built modified race cars his Corvair had a racing suspension around the 65 swing axles and he put the turbo spyder engine in that convertible (a whopping 180hp)…it was a little race car on the street…we loved riding in it as kids and I got to drive it a bit later in the early 70s…
To be fair to Nader – his book “Unsafe at Any Speed” was about more than the Corvair, though that was his bête noire. He also went into some of the other stupid stuff Detroit had done in the 1950s and early 1960s – the huge tailfins that were indeed dangerous on some 1950s models and the various shift patterns for automatic transmissions that were prevalent as late as the early 1960s being two if I recall correctly.
Of course, by the time the book was published in 1965, some of these were already fixed. But what’s wrong with a little Monday-morning quarterbacking if it sells books and makes Nader lots of $$$?
Nader is a tin foil hat loonie, an irrelevant has been.
So obama-barry-hussein, wtf ever he calls himself, allegedly was a Constitutional professor? Do you homework numbnuts.
He was on staff, courtesy of affirmative action. There are no achievements noted anywhere, and he has to seal, conceal and hide all of his records.
GWB, while not perfect, loves his Country and did what was in the interest of these United States. Look at the asshat in chief now.
As far as intelligence, GWB was trained to fly jets. The only thing hussein can do is golf, lie, and cross his legs like a girly man while doing interviews on letterman and the view.
Plus GWB did not marry a Wookie.
Typos aside, I do not capitalize non-respectable entities and personnel that are worth the time it would take to walk across the street to spit on them.
Nader can suck it.
Have a nice day,all.
Nothing wrong with Nader making some money, I’d prefer he keeps making money in the private sector as I can see no way his service in the public sector would benefit anyone in the United States.
I also would prefer if journalists would aim for a little more actual intellectual and a little less pseudo….
If Nader had half a chance to win, I’d vote for him for president. He is the only one who routinely speaks the truth. As for the Corvair, which GM designed as a quick and dirty response to the VW Beetle, I was hustling one down a mountain road 42 years ago, got the right rear tire on little patch of sand, and faster than the blink of an eye I was going in the exact same direction – backwards! Pure luck kept me from going off the edge rear bumper first. Driving that car was like trying to push a weather vane through the air backwards, just inherently unstable. Ralph rocks. And Paladin #9, what the hell does being of Lebanese descent have to do with anything? Oh yeah, it doesn’t.
“I was hustling one down a mountain road. . . . ” Sounds to me like that means you were probably going well over the posted speed limit.
And it’s the car’s fault that you nearly skidded off the road.
Riiiiiight.
Hustling down a mountain road… ooooh, that sounds like a song to me.
My dad had a red corvair, and loved it.
The Corvair had the same issue as the Beetle – rear engine/rear drive, with swing axles. They were both dangerous if you drove them “enthusiastically” (or had to make a sudden evasive manuver), but as day to day cars, driven sedately, they were OK I guess. Wouldn’t want to get in a head-on in one. Compared to today’s cars, they were death traps.
But Corvair or no Corvaie, I still think Ralph would make a fine president and be about as immune as a politician can be from the lure of cash.
Corvair was only dangerous if you don’t understand the first 4 years did not have independent suspension and the springs were not up to the task.
Drop the stock springs on the after ’65 swing axles with independent suspension, put on some racing springs and proper dampening shocks and the only way to lose the ass end is to be a f#cking moron behind the wheel. Setup correctly this car would corner like a racer…
But a stock pre ’65 setup driven poorly would explain a lot.
The VW engine could be easily modded with replacement high compression heads and, regarding the vehicle itself, adding some aftermarket suspension parts that made it ridiculously fun to drive and a lot more “adventurously” driven through variable radius turns.
Yeah, off the topic of this thread, still like Ralph, but kind of an armchair car guy. In theory the newer model of Corvair could have been a mean machine, but no matter who drives it, it would still suffer from “trailing throttle oversteer”, similar to the Porsche 911, which took them years to engineer out (mostly) by putting huge tires on the rear, small tires on the front, and a super stiff front anti-sway bar. You may have seen pictures of a 911 cornering with the inside front wheel off the ground – that’s the only way they could get it not to swap ends abruptly, diminishing the cornering power at the front and giving it a huge contact patch in the back. If you’re halfway thru a spirited turn in a Corvair, and you have to lift off unexpectedly – a deer, a pedestrian, etc. – well, you better have good reflexes.