Bill Whittle on why you should care about Fast & Furious scandal
Someone sent us this video by Bill Whittle who explains why you (and the media) should care about the Fast & Furious scandal, “Watergate with 300 dead people lying on the ground”;
Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden
In answer to Whittle’s question: no. Shame is a component of a functioning morality.
One thing Whittle doesn’t mention is the numbers of dead Americans killed by those guns that initially went south of the border, and then migrated north.
I’ve said before, and I’ll say again here: if the individual mandate in Obamacare stands, this President will use the Commerce Clause as the justification to shut all sales of arms, ammunition and accessories. And, once a thing is done, the GOP won’t undo it.
Well, anyone that has lost a loved one from one of these weapons should send a donation in memory of the victim(s) to President Obama’s reelection campaign.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/22/Obama-wedding-registry
Just to emphasize the major discrepancies with this program, I suggest everyone read this article:
The differences between “Wide Receiver” and “Fast and Furious”
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/25735100377/the-differences-between-wide-receiver-and-fast-and
If Dubya was still POTUS, our national treasure – the main stream media would really, really, REALLY care. Why there might be some sort of nationwide outcry about why out government is so out of control – and contributed to deaths of U.S. Border Patrol agents & Mexicans alike. Why isn’t Dubya being “transparent” with this “Gunwalking Gate” fiasco? What is he hiding? Why is your Attorney General stonewalling/not releasing documents? Mr. President, how dare you invoke Executive Privelege to prevent release of documents – the Congress, media, public deserve an answer.
With Kenyan Obama as POTUS – the MSM has put up a fire wall around his Administration and AG Eric Holder. Just ignore this, stonewall, and bury it. Nothing to see here. Yep, MSM will twist this into the “horrors” of guns and we need a national debate on it. Meanwhile protect Barry at all costs & get him reelected – he may be a buffoon and failure, but he is “our” failure. Fast & Furious? what the hells that? A movie? Don’t hold your breath on those pricks Woodson & Bernstein doing any serious investigative “journalism” ala Nixon’s Watergate. Barry OblameBush should feel very lucky-If media ever turned on him – it would be like Ned Beatty in Deliverance – just squealing like a pig.
Fellas, as a resident of Arizona, where this shit is happening, let me tell you, it’s not just on the border. I’m in Phoenix, which is about 150 miles from the border and people here have died because of this program. It didn’t make the news but with a sister with Phoenix PD I get info even the press doesn’t get. It’s happening and comrade obama only cares about covering his own ass. Him and his “bro” eric holder.
Notice that Whittle applies the descriptive, “evil,” to Obama and Holder. To my knowledge, that is the first time their involvement in this murderous scheme has been so accurately described. Any operation conceived for political gain which REQUIRES the deaths of hundreds of innocents in order to achieve success is inherently evil, as are the people who planned and implemented it.
And our media ignores, refuses to even investigate, the possibility that a sitting president is complicit in hundreds of homicides. Such behavior by the media can only be described as evil. Many times in the Twentieth Century, the world witnessed the evil that men do; more importantly the world witnessed how that evil is compounded and intensified by a compliant, lapdog media.
The media are no longer even trying to hide their bias against us as conservatives nor the contempt in which they hold us. If Obama and Holder have, in fact, entered into a murderous conspiracy, then the media, by hiding that fact are indeed, evil.
I believe Mr. Holder has received a contempt citation. I’m mystified at the arrogance displayed by this administration.
This smacks loudly of Tricky Dick Nixon’s attempts at being a megalomaniac when he approved of the break-in at the Watergate Hotel and at Daniel Ellsberg’s shrink’s office. It was his second term in office, he got impeached and then he got fired.
Oh, all right, he was told to resign. Big diff.
But I see no difference between what Nixon did and this, other than this is not the incumbent’s second term and there is an election coming up.
Check out this Washington Compost articel about a 14 year old in Phoenix who defended his home and siblings from an armed intruder with a firearm.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/14-year-old-phoenix-boy-shoots-armed-intruder-while-protecting-younger-siblings/2012/06/23/gJQAT0jlxV_story.html?hpid=z4
If he had not had access to a gun there would probably be four dead kids. Gun control is a good sight picture and a slow squeeze.
You can’t get any better than Bill Whittle. He’s
the sharpest; i.e., he consistently gets it right.
Ex-PH2: I don’t believe that it was ever established that Nixon knew about the Watergate break-in a priori. Frankly, IMO the evidence argues otherwise. If anything, it appears that Nixon first learned about the Watergate break-in only after-the-fact.
Nixon’s crime wasn’t authorizing or planning the Watergate break-in. Rather, Nixon’s crime was in attempting to obstruct justice via using his position as POTUS to prevent investigation of crimes committed by others.
Seems to me Holder may well be in a similar position regarding “Fast and Furious”. YMMV.
Hondo, Nixon was in the “arrogance of power” mode at that time. He put Bud Krogh in charge of the “Plumbers” who engineered the break-in at Ellsberg’s shrink’s office. They couldn’t find anything on Ellsberg because the shrink had put a false name on Ellsberg’s file. They trashed his office. Bud Krogh spent six months in jail for that little escapade. Nixon put John Dean in charge of the break-in at the Dem National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Hotel. During the Watergate hearings, Dean spent 7 hours on live TV reading the 245 pages of his confession. He also spent a good deal of time in jail for what he did. Nixon also went around the military high command and directly ordered the bombing of Cambodia in secret and sent 6,000 troops into Cambodia, again in secret, so that the Ho Chi Minh highway used by the VC could be closed down. These things are no longer secret, they were in the documents Nixon released when he resigned from office. Those files were transcribed from the 3700 hours of tape recordings he had compiled. He had the Oval Office bugged, Camp David was bugged, and everything — even the briefest conversation — was on tape. Surely you remember the infamous 18 minutes of missing tape? He also referred to people as greedy bastards, among other things. Nixon disliked people and carried a lot of hatred toward anyone he perceived as doing him wrong. He compiled a list of political enemies, which included an 85-year-old grandmother who had donated $5 to the Democratic campaign. He ordered illegal wiretaps to spy on his own staff, as well as anyone he thought was working against him. Had it not been for the disastrous events at Kent State University, where a student protest became a deadly shooting by the National Guard — 4 people died, several were permanently crippled — there might not have been an end to the war in Vietnam. Basically, Nixon knowingly broke the law and admitted to it later, at Oxford University. He was brilliant, yes, but he was… Read more »
News Flash, PH we were in those two nations before Nixon was in office. How do I know, Iwas part of the helo inserts both times.
Ex-PH2: I’m not excusing Nixon’s misconduct, and I’m in agreement that the man was deeply flawed as well as brilliant. But again: I do not believe that there has ever been evidence uncovered that Nixon either personally ordered or knew about Watergate a priori. If you know of such evidence, please provide citation to same.
As I recall, Nixon’s later mea culpas were for the Watergate cover up and for the fact that the break-in occurred at all. I don’t believe Nixon ever acknowledged a priori knowledge or approving same. And I personally don’t believe either was the case.
In any case, the attempted cover-up – which Nixon later clearly acknowledged and in fact was the driving force behind – was a far worse offense than the break-in. The break-in was a petty crime of the sort that happens often; it was a simple break-in to steal something of value, in this case information. The cover-up, on the other hand, was obstruction of justice led by the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government. The latter threatens both the legal system and our form of government.
Going after Ellsberg is a different matter altogether. Given what Ellsberg did – specifically, Ellsberg unlawfully divulged highly classified information to those not entitled to receive it – there was ample justification for searching his home and office as well as that of his psychiatrist, particularly since the involvement of foreign intelligence in the matter could not be ruled out. Today, the process would be to go through a special court (the FISC) to get a warrant to do exactly that. That process did not exist in Nixon’s day; the FISC was not created under Federal law until 1978.
And yes, Nixon was wrong to go after Ellsberg in the way he did (as well as in many other aspects of how he treated those he perceived to be his “enemies”). But re: Ellsberg, there was at least some justification for portions of that on national security grounds.
There was absolutely no justification for Watergate or its cover-up.
Hondo, I’m not defending Ellsberg, and if I can find the resources for this (I went on memory), I will provide them. Ellsberg went to Vietnam and was appalled by what he saw, so I still don’t know what possessed him to do that. Guilty conscience, maybe? But we both agree that the “plumbers” under Bud Krogh engaged in criminal acts. It was, in fact, a do-it-yourself White House staff, regardless of law or legality.
You have to remember that Nixon taped everything, every word that he and other people uttered, and he ordered the bugging of the White House and the Oval Office and Camp David. Those tapes, minus the famous 18 missing minutes, were transcribed and released to the public. Everyone involved in those break-ins knew it was illegal and lied under oath. John Dean (on tape) told Nixon that the ‘plumbers’ were demanding blackmail,up to $2 million, and Nixon did not back down; he stated (again on tape) “we can get $2 million”. These tapes were his downfall.
I will find the references to what I said, and if I was wrong, I’ll say so.
Joe Williams, yes, we were in both Cambodia and Vietnam, but the bombing in Cambodia in 1969 and the 6,000 troops sent into Cambodia in 1970, were during Nixon’s first term. That was what generated the protests at Kent State University, with the resulting shootings by the Ohio National Guard, using live bullets. The helo inserts were during LBJ’s administration. When I said Nixon went around the military command, I mean he did not consult with the DoD at all; he just decided to issue the orders for those actions directly.
He also ordered the carpet bombing of North Vietnam in December 1972 when the South refused to sign the peace treaty negotiated during the Paris peace talks.
As I said, he also did some very good things, and it is a pity that those things fade into the background when Nixon’s name is brought up. It’s not “Oh, the mutual nuclear arms reduction treaty.” Instead, it’s “Oh! Watergate! Eeew!”