All guns are always loaded

| January 8, 2012

Associated Press reports that a SEAL was trying to impress a woman he’d just brought home from a bar and shot himself;

San Diego police were called on Thursday after the accident. Police say [Petty Officer 3rd Class Gene “Geno” Clayont, Jr.] had gone to a bar and brought a woman back to his apartment and was showing her guns when he put a pistol to his head, believing it was unloaded, and pulled the trigger.

So, ladies, is that what I’m doing wrong? Are you impressed and more likely to give me the good stuff if I disregard everything I know about gun safety?

Yes, it’s a tragedy, but a self-inflicted tragedy. You have to wonder what was going through his mind. Besides the obvious, of course.

Category: Guns, Military issues

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OWB

Russian Roulette as part of foreplay.

Well, it’s an idea, just not a very good one.

CI Roller Dude

1.) Treat all firearms as if they are loaded
2.) Never point it at anything you don’t want to destroy
3.) Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot
4.) Know your target

I teach this everyday to CIVILIANS who’ve never shot before….
I repeat it 4 or 5 times during the first 2 hours of the class…I ask them the rules before they leave the class…if they forgot, I pause and go over them again.

2-17 AirCav

Booze okay. Beer okay. Bullets okay. Booze or beer and bullets not okay.

proof

Proving the adage once again, that sex won’t kill you but running after it can.

Redacted1775

Yeah that’ll get the ladies. “Hey, you wanna see what my brains look like? Check this out.” BLAM! I remember reading a red banner bulletin in country regarding a similar incident between a Sergeant and his Private. Private informs the Sergeant he has a mag in his pistol while they’re on post. Sergeant replies “there’s no ammo in this pistol”, proceeds to unholster, place the pistol to his head, click off safe, and squeeze the trigger, effectively blowing his brains out in front of his troop.

Poohbah, Lord High Everything Else

He was impious to Father Darwin, and Father Darwin smote him cruelly.

Some people’s sole purpose is to serve as a good bad example to everyone else.

NHSparky

Hell of a way to demonstrate that SEALs in fact are NOT bulletproof.

Beretverde

A SEAL? Not surprised. Ready for the heat rounds….

NotSoOldMarine

Stupidity kills.

Doc Bailey

“this is my safety sir.” doesn’t work. Though every wannabe bad ass always tries to repeat it.

Saying that line out loud proves you’re a dumb ass. Acting on it proves just how (terminally) stupid you are

Zero Ponsdorf

Okay… There is NO excuse good enough to paint this particular event in a positive light – that is a fact!

But… No one here has ever had an accidental discharge? I’ve seen an ‘oops’ on more than one device, even a guided missile!

Working for NASA during the early Shuttle missions I’ve heard more than one ‘damn’ over the loop.

Stupid is one thing, an accident is just that.

OWB

Well, yeah, Zee. That’s why most of us are extremely careful to ALWAYS point the damn thing only at things which might be improved with ventilation whether we think it’s loaded or not. And, I might add, get extremely excited when in the company of anyone who is not in that particular habit.

Zero Ponsdorf

OWB #12: Yeah, ain’t nothing quite like getting swept by an ‘unloaded’ weapon. There’s a story and you know the principals… Remind me when next we meet or talk.

In my defense I should have clearer, for sure. A genuine accidental discharge is no less deadly than a stupid one. I was trying, poorly, to emphasize the difference.

OldSoldier54

I marvel that I lived to see my thirtieth birthday, so I can’t bad mouth this guy.

Many years ago, I had a cousin who did just EXACTLY the same thing, with EXACTLY the same results. It grieves me just as much now as then. What a sad waste of a young man’s life.

OWB

@ Zee – no need to mount a defense. Just yankin’ your chain a little bit. Yeah, many of us have heard stories about accidental discharges. I wouldn’t know for sure, of course.

Beretverde

The classic AD is the DEA Agent shooting himself in front of a class with the Youtube video. Everyone laughs at that one. He lived in shame for another day. As for this tragic “loss”… he certainly knew better. In fact, I would guess that he knew about the DEA Agent shooting. A case of the dumb ass caught up with him. Not badmouthing, but calling a spade a spade. Seen this shit before and it is always sad.

BeatandRelease

I’m of the opinion there is NO SUCH THING as an accidental discharge. The term should be stricken from the lexicon. NEGLIGENT discharge is more appropriate.

NotSoOldMarine

re #17

Yep. Guns can only fire by intent or neglect. If you point a gun at your head and pull the trigger you are either suicidal or stupid.

fmfnvydoc

See what happens when you are in such a hurry to get a piece of poon tang…too much blood goes from the big head to the little one, and you get freaking stupid (in this case, it was terminal).

Tman

What a terrible waste.

Overshoot

A little chlorine for the gene pool

DefendUSA

Apparently he forgot which “weapon” was which– as in: “This is my weapon, this is my gun. This one’s for shooting and this one’s for fun.”
What a tragedy.