Gunman shoots four cops in their precinct
Late yesterday afternoon a gunman walked into a Detroit precinct and shot four officers before they were able to kill the gunamn, according to the Detroit Free Press. He was using a scary-looking weapon;
Then the gunman rushed the horseshoe-shaped front desk with his pistol grip shotgun.
Emphasis mine. Soon the media will be telling us that pistol-grip shotguns were banned during the much vaunted assault weapon ban and this wouldn’t have happened if Congress had succeeded in renewing the ban. The AWB forbade;
(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of–
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.
All four police officers are expected to recover, by the way.
The most curious part of the story is that officers at that the front desk were below the top of the desk and they couldn’t see if anyone entering the front door had something in their hands. The first officer shot was a woman officer at the front desk. Seems to me that a camera at the front door would be a welcomed addition. There was no bullet proof glass on the front doors either. In the 21st Century, every police station I’ve been in had a buzzer system for controlling entry and bullet proof glass.
Well, it is Detroit and I’ve heard that gun crimes aren’t real common, well, except that they occur almost everyday.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists, Society
Well, Jonn, we know it wasn’t the person holding the shotgun with the pistol grip, but rather the shotgun itself. I mean, any normal, law-abiding shotgun wouldn’t have a pistol grip on it. The person was just walking down the street, minding his own business, when the evil pistol grip shotgun whispered tohim from a dark alley. The shotgun said “psst, come here, I want to talk to you” and when the innocent person got close enough, the evil pistol grip shotgun leapt into his hands and possessed the innocent person with all sorts of eeeeevil!!! Then, the evil pistol grip shotgun, by way of eeeeevil possession, made the person go to the precint and start firing.
When interviewed, later, the regular shotguns talked about the evil pistol grip shotgun. They said that it used to be a normal shotgun, but it went down to a dark alley and when it emerged, it wasn’t right. It had this evil persona and this macabre pistol grip in place of the stock. It started mumbling incantations and making things levitate. It had a bad aura around it and us normal shotguns were terrified of it. We wouldn’t go near it for fear that we, too, would become possessed by it’s evil. We knew it was only a matter of time before its evil would possess some unsuspecting innocent person. I noticed right behind the safety there was clearly marked a 666 and a pentagram stamped in the trigger guard. Well, me and the other normal shotguns don’t want to ever see sucha thing again. It was much too frightening.
Honestly What does a pistol grip or what type of stalk have anything to do with the operation of a gun? Also I can’t help but wonder, WHY in DETROIT of all places, one of the most crime riddled cities in the country, is the police station not protected better.
you guys are so right. You can see that making the place safer- and keeping the cops safer isn’t on the top of their agenda.
Two points:
The attack was a surprise. Most folks don’t go barging into a police station replicating the Terminator.
Complacency kills.
Those pistol grip shotguns are indeed evil. As a naive 18-year-old I had a very bad experience with one. Long story short, after telling a cop I had guns in the car during a traffic stop he charged me with concealed weapons. A snubnose .38 and a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip were the guns I had with me. In court the cop brought the Mossberg, telling the judge that there was no reason a private citizen should own one. The little Taurus 85 was given back to me while the relatively huge Mossberg was turned over to the state. When I bought a 590 a few months later I kept that evil pistol grip in the box; no need to risk scaring another cop.
As for the precinct station, I’ve never seen one with an open front desk either. Even the smallest town here in Louisiana has a ballistic glass window, controlled entry and a waiting area in their police or sheriff stations.
Hey, it’s Detroit, after all. Most homicides in Detroit are misdemeanor murders, or so it seems.
Agreed, why, in a city famous, or infamous, as a murder capitol at one time, is there no restriction on access.
And, don’t blow the BS about “openness” and “letting the public get to know us”. Hell, party stores in that city have better security than that. CCTV, check. Bullet-resistant glass, check. Out-gun the perp, check and mate.
Although it’s most likely that Detroit is just too cheap to take basic steps to protect their officers, it’s probably also possible that some brilliant sociologist decided that it’s better for community outreach if the public doesn’t see an actual physical barrier between themselves and the govenment officials who are supposed to help them. I know a big deal was made in Iraq about how much better the Brits got along with the Iraqi civilians because they were patrolling in berets instead of k pots. Along those lines, not putting up ballistic glass could have been a conscious decision to make crime victims feel more welcome at the precinct.
fm2176: When the ignorant cop said there is no reason for a private citizen to own the pistol gripped mossy; did you counter that it doesn’t matter what he “thinks”, it’s still legal?
I know I would have asked the cop to show me the state statute that indicates it is illegal.
I bet that evil shotgun had a barrel shroud on it as well. You know, that shoulder thing that goes up.
Old Trooper,
Unfortunately we were in court at the time. I was eighteen and my lawyer, while a successful traffic lawyer, was unhelpful. IIRC, the “evidence” was not permissible in the first place for a misdemeanor charge of concealed weapons but my lawyer did not object to it. After the first time I appealed and it was in the Circuit Court that the trooper brought the Mossberg; I guess he was unhappy that an eighteen-year-old kid had researched the state code and was wasting his time by appealing a wrongful conviction (wrongful in that while the weapons were concealed according to the code, there was no intent on my part to hide them).
Anyway, to my astonishment, the trooper went on to tell the judge that the shotgun was capable of holding 9 shells (my 590 does, the 500 held six) and that he had asked if I had any guns when he made the stop–not that I had volunteered the information as soon as he approached the window. The judge agreed with the cop’s opinion of the gun and upheld the conviction, imposing a stiffer punishment than originally given.
As for the Taurus, despite the General District judge’s order for the trooper to return it, it took three or four months of calling the state police HQ before I finally got him to meet me. Needless to say, I learned as a young adult exactly how trustworthy some cops can be as well as the value of a trial by jury as opposed to placing one’s fate in a judge. On a positive note, though, it motivated me to refrain from further subjection to the criminal process and to learn guns laws in every state in which I reside or pass through.
fm2176; That sucks and I bet that same cop bought that mossy 500 at auction for a couple of bucks, if it even made it that far.