Need Navy help with a possible Poser.
I was cursingcruising POW network and ran into a new one that caught my eye.
He was wearing the rank of a Petty Officer second class in aviation mechanic but I most of his medals were Army and the ones on there raised some questions. Not to mention the order.
The Claim according to POW network.
Claims he is in the Navy and he is originally from the Virginia Beach/ Norfolk area but currently resides in Madison, Virginia. Claimed that he would be stationed in Norfolk then he said he was going to move to Spain then he said he had a choice between going to California, Florida, and Hawaii. All of the sudden he could not go to Hawaii because his commanding officer, a lieutenant, was arrested and he was promoted to lieutenant. Then he could remain living in Madison because he got a job at the Pentagon working for the CIA. Now, he does not have to go to active duty because he is using his GI bill to get his college degree.
According to his myspace page he is 33 years old and he could have possibly earned the Southwest Asian Service Medal. But were the Campaign Star, every medal should have at least one. Also how can one who is suppose to be a former NCO in the Army and Navy mess up in putting a decoration after the service medals and the NCO Professional Development Ribbon. Just about everything is in the wrong order. Also the lack of a GWOT medal and Star on the National Defense Medal also stands out.
Also this is were I wondering from those who are in the Navy/Marine side. What medals/ribbons would someone have after coming over from other Branches. Also is there any medals/ribbons that the Navy does not allow to transfer over to the Navy Uniform? Also I have a question about keeping rank coming from other Branches.
Non-Navy Veterans
If the Veteran holds a skill that is directly covertable to a Navy Rating, they are usually enlisted at one paygrade lower than they held at time of discharge, but not lower than E-3. If the veteran does not have a skill directly covertable to a Navy rating, they enlist at the grade of E-3, regardless of previously held rank, in most cases (there are a few exceptions).
For those who hold a skill that is directly convertable to a Navy Rating, the following criteria must be met:
* E-1 through E-3 –Must have 6 or less years of prior service, and no more than 5 Years Broken Service.
* E-4 –Must have 6 or less years of prior service, and no more than 3 Years Broken Service.
* E-5 -Must have 8 or less years of prior service, and no more than 3 Years Broken Service.
* E-6 – Must have 12 or less years of prior service, and no more than 3 Years Broken Service.
In addition to the above criteria, all prior service must be able to complete 20 years of service by age 55. No waivers are authorized.
The Device on the Good Conduct Medal suggest 6 years + and with the regs it again could be possible. But I am not so sure. Also I found a list of Petty Officers second class with the name of the person showing up under a section called Ati2 I have not been able to find anything on what that means. I was hoping to see one someone might know.
I suspect a fake but I am not 100% sure yet, that is the reason why I have not put up his name or photo. I emailed his wife and asked similar questions about the medals and ribbons so I hope to get a reply soon.
ADDED:
I have some new info that says that he joined the Navy in 2003 and left the Navy in about 2009. So that brings into question were are the Navy Good Conduct medals, Marksmanship ribbons and GWOT service medal.
He goes from giving good conduct in the Army to not getting a single Good Conduct medal in the Navy? Or not going to a rifle range in six years? Plus no one telling him about the GOWT medal?
Now his wife is claiming that the medals that he is wearing are from a late family member that served 20 years in the military. He was just wearing them to “honor” her.
Category: Phony soldiers
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Let me clear up this since you want to accuse me of being his wife, I attend school with this man’s wife, so yes her and I have the same IP address due to the both of us attending the same school and using the same wi-fi. She is the friend I was referring to that told me about this blog. Please don’t assume things, just simply ask questions. You will get a lot farther in life when you are nice and polite.
And so will you ‘sir’/’ma’am.
The questions and requests are all on the table, we’re all still waiting for the polite answers.
So you used the exact same computer as her? You do understand that each computer has different ip addresses. While not impossable, it rases more questions then answers. The overall theme for this person’s military history.
I have been asking about certain. Things and not getting any answers besides “I am telling the truth”. I can answer any questions about my military with supporting documents. I would make things easier if he would do the sam. The next time you see ether him or her, ask why the awards are that messed up and who owns those awards. Also I would like to know about them going to Spain in early 2009. I have her saying two different things.
The more they dodge questions, the more I suspect he never served.
I am waiting to get a copy of his paperwork, the papers are at his mother’s house and I should be going there within the next two weeks. Just be patient and I will send a copy to you. How woulw you like for me to send them? Email? And when I show the documentation, I better get an apology from every last one of you!
Sporkmaster (Oct 9th 2011): To date I have yet to receive anything or had any further contact from her about his records.
The best thing would be by email with all the personal information blocked out like SS numbers, by the use of Windows paint application.Then host it online or email the contact us on this website.
One thing that I suggested you use is is the National Archive, that has all the records of anyone who has ever served. Something that I suggested you do with the POW net work.
Anyone can be looked up if they have a full name and a full date of birth.
At this point I want to see documents before I even start to talk about apologies.
Need help in identifying Navy job ratings and other jargon.
Spork–drop me a line I’ll be glad to help.
Thanks, check your email in a few.
Now his wife is claiming that the medals that he is wearing are from a late family member that served 20 years in the military. He was just wearing them to “honor” her.
No way in the sweet root-beer drinking Baby Jesus on a tricycle world is that ever authorized.
Yea I am calling BS on this too. I am talking to him that the awards are place incorrectly too boot and that shows how much time he invested in “honoring” his sister./
Hey… Does that mean I could have worn my Dad’s WWII Victory Medal?
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