Thank you Supreme Court

| April 28, 2010

From CNN:

Court: Cross doesn’t violate separation of church and state
The Supreme Court has ruled a white cross, erected as a war memorial and placed on national parkland in the California desert, does not violate the constitutional separation of church and state.

The 5-4 majority concluded Congress acted properly when it tried to transfer land around the Mojave Memorial Cross to veterans groups, an effort to eliminate any Establishment Clause violation. A federal appeals panel had blocked that property swap.

At issue before the justices was whether the display fundamentally violates the first ten words of the Bill of Rights: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

I was working on my other case today, but this is a big win. I played a very meager role on this, but it pleases me to no end.

Jonn Added: Some TAH background on the story from May and August last year. TSO is too modest – his contribution was more than he’ll admit.

TSO Added: Here is the money shot that is easily read by non lawyer types:

The District Court did not attempt to reassess the find-ings in Buono I in light of the policy of accommodation that Congress had embraced. Rather, the District Court concentrated solely on the religious aspects of the cross,divorced from its background and context. But a Latin cross is not merely a reaffirmation of Christian beliefs. It is a symbol often used to honor and respect those whoseheroic acts, noble contributions, and patient striving helpsecure an honored place in history for this Nation and its people. Here, one Latin cross in the desert evokes far more than religion. It evokes thousands of small crosses in foreign fields marking the graves of Americans who fell in battles, battles whose tragedies are compounded if the fallen are forgotten. Respect for a coordinate branch of Government forbidsstriking down an Act of Congress except upon a clear showing of unconstitutionality.

BTW- That is almost exactly what Tim said in the comments, so maybe I will ask Obama to name him to the Supremes.

ALSO: Allahpundit covered it here, and I think he misses a point in there that is important. Regarding Stevens approach, AP says:

I take his point — honoring Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist troops, etc, with a cross is rather insufficiently nuanced — but if the worry is observers feeling influenced by the display, how does Stevens justify the religious symbols on the headstones at Arlington? There’s theoretically no government endorsement problem there since servicemen get to select their own insignias, but (a) it is federal land and (b) seeing so many crosses associated with such valor, even with stars of David and crescents mixed in, is more powerful than some puny cross in the desert.

Actually, there are numerous “unknown” graves in federal cemeteries (mostly overseas) that have crosses over them. I always felt they would be the next target, since (contra what AP says), those buried underneath clearly did not “get to select their own insignias”. Also, the WWI memorial in Arlington is a Latin Cross as well. The ACLU always promised us when we asked than they would not go after gravestones, and everytime I asked if that included the unknown ones overseas, they were silent. I wonder why that was….

Also, you can read The American Legion’s press release here. (Disclaimer: I aided in writing portions of it.)

The whole Supreme Court enchilada below the jump;

Salazar v. Buono, No. 08-472

Category: Liberals suck, Support the troops, Usual Suspects

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Richard Romano

Shouldn’t this have been 9-0?

Gee, I wonder how Sotomayor voted.

AW1 Tim

I have to say that, as a Pagan, I still am happy to see this result. Whether Christian or not, the Cross has become a mark of respect, and it’s historical use as a monument to our nation’s fallen, among other uses, should not be taken as a sign of the Government’s support of a particular cult, creed or sect.

This is a win for free speech, and the right of the people to honor their fallen in a manner of their own choosing.

Adirondack Patriot

Richard has it right. 5 to 4? Really?

FIVE TO FRIGGIN’ FOUR!!!

He’s also right about Sotomayor. I’m sure that the wise Latina injected her superior wisdom into the dissent along with that mumbling, dribbling, addle-brained John Paul Stevens.

The left is bound and determined to outlaw religion in this country.

AW1 Tim

Wow…. TSO, you give me too much credit. 🙂

Rather, if someone on the ground, like me, can see the clarity of the issue ( I hadn’t read the finding until you posted it), then what does it say about those Justices on the Appellate bench?

To my mind, it says that they look to finely at the details, rather than the issue in it’s entirety, and so miss the simple truth that everyone else easily grasps.

respects,

hoosierbeagle

This is why elections have consequences…5-4. Any one want to bet where Sotomayer or Ginsberg voted?

UpNorth

Sotomayor joined Justice Stevens, in his “mumbling, dribbling, addle-brained” opinion. Kudos to AP for that description. After trying to read the decision, I came to the conclusion, that there is no common sense in the law today, it’s all CYA, and pontification. What took pages and pages to say, could have been said in about two paragraphs.
After reading Stevens’ dissent, with Sotomayor concurring, if they had their way, it appears the government would have to remove all of the crosses in all of the cemeteries here, and overseas, because the “Latin cross” embodies all that the liberals find evil.

OldCavLt

Just wondering… is it offensive to award one of the practitioners of the religions mentioned the DSC? After all, it has a “cross” as well, doesn’t it?

Good God. How asinine can the people wanting this cross out really get?