What’s In A Name?

| August 26, 2025

Trump, Hegseth float renaming Defense Department to Department of War

By Leo Shane III

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said plans to rename his agency as the Department of War are “coming soon,” but it remains unclear whether the executive branch can make such a move without congressional permission.

During a White House press event on Monday, Hegseth spoke about the deployment of National Guard troops throughout Washington, D.C., and along the southern U.S. border. President Donald Trump responded to the remarks by complimenting the service members but complaining that the Department of Defense name “didn’t sound good” to him.

“Department of Defense, I don’t want to be defense only,” he continued. “We want defense, but we want offense, too.

“It used to be called the Department of War and it had a stronger sound. And as you know, we won World War I. We won World War II. We won everything.”

The United States used the Department of War moniker for its military bureaucracy from 1789 to 1947. In 1949, it was changed to the current Department of Defense name amid massive restructuring of the military services.
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It’s unclear if changing the name of the military apparatus would lead to objections or litigation from Congress.

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jeff LPH 3 63-66

War is war, I’m pretty sure.

SFC D

Seems kinda pointless to change. JMHO, your mileage may vary.

USAFRetired

Department of Instigation and Harassment Bureau of Ridiculous Projects.

If a name change cost one cent then don’t do it.

Amateur Historian

“Trump, Hegseth float renaming Defense Department to Department of War”

Other than to illicit throwback memories, who cares?

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jhstoney673

it was Department of War and Department of Navy, which is why some of our pay regulations are still a little different and wonky as they were in different sections of the law.

This harkens back to when the Navy was USN and USMC and War was Army and AAC.

Defense was established then further codified under Goldwater-Nichols

so not opinionated either way. But, DoD does not equal War Department it equals War + Navy departments.

Green Thumb

Jesus.

Just stop.

5JC

I’m in favor. The only caveat is that from now on the DOD and all of it’s assets can only be used in declared wars or in defense from an attack.

Otherwise I’ll just leave this:

“Sometimes a good defense is a strong offense”

SFC D

Isn’t that usually followed by FAFO? If not, it should be!

Hack Stone

Hack was going to recommend naming it The Department of Fucking Around & Finding Out.

5JC

Too much truth in advertising, too much truth.

Eric (the former OC Tanker)

Don’t start none, won’t be none.

ChipNASA

FAFO Dept.

Slick Goodlin

WAR, huh!
What is it good for?

Renaming wimpy sounding Defense Departments?

Odie

Space force?

A Proud Infidel®™

Come to think of it, the US Space Force is the US Army’s Grandkid, remember that the USAF started life as the US Army Air Force!!!

Hack Stone

The aviation part of the Army in WWI fell under the Communication Branch. Maybe those pilots in The Great War spent their time in the sky over France skywriting and making Dick pics.

SFC D

Signal Corps. We’re everywhere!

26Limabeans

Leave it alone and find something more urgent to do.
I hate the word “war” but “defense” kinda covers it.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Whats in a name, How about ‘Whats Your Name’
Don and Juan 1962

SFC D

“What’s your name”

Lynyrd Skynyrd 1977

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26Limabeans

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BlueCord Dad

How about we worry about shipbuilding, having enough 155mm artillery rounds and restocking all the other ordinance we threw at Ukraine. Not to mention getting our drone/autonomous weapon systems game going.

Hack Stone

Spiro Agnew. Can those ten points used in the purchase of Red Hat Software?

26Limabeans

Journalists.

SFC D

Back before we realized they were partisan. That damn Cronkite fooled us!

Hack Stone

Hack is only a Marylander due to circumstances. He was the only Comm Gunny on Okinawa without a DUI, a pile of bounced checks or charges of sexual impropriety, so the Corps gave him a TS/SCI and sent his ass to the Pentagon. Then one day, as Hack was picking up tin cans along Wilson Lane, Elaine Ricci Stepped out of a 1980’s vintage Jaguar and offered him a lifetime contract as Director of Media Relations. Shortly afterwards, she checked herself into The Betty Rubble Clinic for treatment of her addiction to placebos. It’s been ten years now, but sobriety is just around the corner.

And for the record, Hack was born in Philadelphia, and in 1969 his family was exiled to South Jersey. That’s why Hack always pulled for Ronald Mailahn in the Poser Tournaments.

Hack Stone

Hey, rebranding worked for Psul of The Ballsack. He self identified as Palmer of The Ballsack, and it was so successful that he went through two more bankruptcies and a business bankruptcy.

HT3

This sounds like an unforced error. I don’t understand with SO MANY wins why this would be necessary?

11B-Mailclerk

What are our win/loss ratios before and after the change to “Defense”?

Not a coincidence.

Patton was right. No one wins wars through defense or defending.

SFC D

“We’re not just going to shoot the bastards, we’re going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We’re going to murder those lousy Hun bastards by the bushel.“

Anonymous

I’m good with that.
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Awful Cause C

Yeah, no thanks. I’m not going to re-inventory my Conex just so I can document it on a DW1750.

Slow Joe

I don’t think it matters what we call it, as long as it does its job of defending the country.

On the other hand, I can just imagine all the lib heads exploding!

Hell yeah. Let’s do it. Department of War.

To paraphrase that libtard guy from Texas: “When you control the gruberment, drive it like you stole it!”.