California bill sparks fear of attacks against self-defense

| March 9, 2025 | 34 Comments

California assembly member Rick Chavez Zbur, Democrat representing Lost Angeles, introduced Assembly Bill 1333. Zbur wanted to address what he felt were growing issues involving public gun use and vigilantism. He wanted to close loopholes related to the Supreme Court’s ruling regarding carrying handguns in public. Zbur insists that this bill will not interfere with people’s rights to stand their ground.

From ABC10:

Assembly member Rick Chavez Zbur (D-Los Angeles), who introduced the bill, insists the intent of AB 1333 is being misunderstood. Zbur says the bill is not intended to prevent people from defending themselves, their families, or their homes and not interfere with the Castle Doctrine also known as “stand your ground.”

“This is meant to make sure the public feels safe and is safe in public spaces,” Zbur explained.

The bill’s original language, however, has been met with backlash. One controversial provision in the bill would no longer justify killing someone in certain situations, such as when protecting one’s home or belongings. Critics fear this could create confusion about when the use of deadly force is legally justified.

“This bill does nothing and will do nothing to prevent someone from protecting themselves, their loved ones or their home,” Zbur emphasized, noting changes are being made to clarify the bill’s intentions.

Criticism from opponents

Opponents of the bill argue it could create uncertainty around the use of force in self-defense situations.

Craig DeLuz, Director of Communications for the California Republican Assembly, voiced concerns the bill’s language does not fully account for real-world scenarios.

“My first reaction was, clearly this is offered by someone who does not understand use of force law, does not understand use of force situations,” DeLuz said.

DeLuz also warns the bill could have unintended consequences.

“What this does is it puts them in a situation where they could potentially hesitate, and it could cost them or someone they love their lives,” he said.

Additional Reading:

Sangha, G. (2025, March 7). California’s self-defense bill: What to know. ABC10. Link.

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Fyrfighter

This is an easy answer. Zbur lies. He knows damn well that this WILL interfere with peoples rights to stand their ground, and that is his intent.
People shooting criminals just reduces the number of demonrat voters.

Amateur Historian

Well, gotta make sure that they aren’t killed faster than they can be imported, right?

26Limabeans

“This is meant to make sure the public feels safe and is safe in public spaces,”

Thus the AR strapped across my back and the .45 on my hip
as I stroll down the street a free man. I could conceal the .45
but that would require a permit and might make people even
more ascared. And what about that Buck “folding hunter” on
your belt. Is that going to require some “legislation” next?
Take a seat Rick.

Anonymous

Left/libtards are wienies who demand everyone else be wienies too.
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A Proud Infidel®™

D-rats are sniveling bitches, and they enjoy proving it time after time after time.

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jeff LPH 3 63-66

Kalifornia rick the prick chavez, is he related to Hugo Chavez???. I would get a good chuckle if his home suffered a home invasion, well I’ll leave the rest of the story out.
Is it Kalifornia or another state that wants people whom move out of their state to pay I think a $10,000.00 tax for moving. anyone one of you TAH’S hear anything about this.???

Jimbojszz

 California “Exit Tax”: The Tax Consequences of Leaving California. They look for ways to tax you after you leave the state. When you move to a non taxing state. Like do you still have family living in Commifornia. Then you would still owe taxes on your income.

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OAM

That’s Illinois. There is currently, at best estimate and even with artificially propping up the budget, an over $700 million shortfall in Toilet’s budget. Which he claimed is “balanced”.

I think New York also proposed something along these lines.

A Proud Infidel®™

Sounds like the PRoC to me, they want to screw everyone that leaves for running away from being screwed day after day living there, makes me thank the Blessed Creator that I live in deep Red State America.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal

So…..what if you’ve closed out all accounts, sold everything, moved, lock, stock, and mailbox, no assets left behind?
No hostages to hold for ransom? What then?
What’s Gruesome Newsom gonna do then if you DON’T pay the “exit tax”? Charge it to your FedGov tax return? Against your new state tax return? HA! Good luck with that.

KoB

Phuque this dood. I’d rather be judged by 12 than toted by 6. How much armed security does he have when he is out in “Public Spaces”? An armed society is a polite society.

A Proud Infidel®™

FUCK him sideways with a rusty pipe wrapped in asbestos soaked in diarrhea and nuclear waste, makes me even happier that I live in deep Red State America where folks are allowed to carry and guess what? the goblins always have to wonder who a good victim will be and who will shoot back!

Anonymous

Why mass school shootings don’t happen in the ‘hood– even crazies know somebody will be strapped and return fire.

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David

If there is any possible way a law can be misconstrued, it will be. Lawyers are PAID to do that.Politicians: “But that’s not the intent of the law we passed! (Damn, they found out it does that…”)

timactual

“. Zbur says the bill is not intended to…”

His intentions are irrelevant; what the bill actually says is what matters.

“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”.

5JC

Most states don’t allow homicide to protect property. A few, such as Texas, limit it to certain circumstances.

Fyrfighter

Used to be ya could hang horse thieves.. seems that’d be a good thing to bring back.. in spirit anyway, carried over to the modes of transport that have replaced horses.

UpNorth

Whenever a dem tells you that ” changes are being made to clarify the bill’s intentions “, you be sure of one thing, maybe two. The bill will do exactly what you fear it will do. And those “changes” will do nothing to change anything in the bill.

Commissar

This bill is DOA.

There are other gun control measures to be worried about.

At least until there is a new version of this bill.

SFC D

And where are YOUR guns, Commissar?

KoB

The “dtupidity” is strong in him.

Commissar

Did I have a typo you are referencing?

Fyrfighter

No Commissar, that was a reference to a comment made by David on another thread.. long story short, it’s a new TAH compound word..

Fyrfighter

Calirado is trying hard to outdo Commiefornia on the anti-Second Amendment shit.. One party rule, and importing peasants and criminals will do that..

Commissar

What do you mean, “where are my guns?”

In my possession.

Why?

SFC D

Just curious about some previous comments you’ve made about storing your guns elsewhere.

Commissar

Yeah, It was an AR.

I modified it to be California compliant.

I don’t have an issue with sensible gun laws. Especially laws to help keep weapons out of the hands of people psychologically unfit to possess them. Criminal behavior, severe mental health issues, substance abuse linked to irrational or psychotic behavior, domestic abusers etc.

Also, I dont think children under 18 should be allowed to be gifted anything more than a rimfire. And must have adult supervision to be in possession of a centerfire weapon.

But they way California has tried to address “assault weapons” over the years led to a patchwork of laws and loopholes that no longer make sense to anyone.

To modify my weapon I was left with four primary choices…

1. A fixed mag where I needed to feed new round into the attached through a feed mechanism on the side of the magazine.

2. A fixed mag where I had to break the action of the rifle using a release that minimally separated the upper and lower receiver briefly to release the mag.

3. A paddle attached to the pistol grip that made it so you could not longer wrap you hand around the grip, therefore making it not longer meet the legal definition of a pistol grip.

4. Converting the pistol grip to a fixed rifle stock.

I chose option 4. I was thinking of converting it to a DMR style AR so the rifle stock is not terrible for the conversion.

I also had to remove the flash suppressor. I could use a compensator or muzzle break, but I am not sure I want to create concussion to my right or left, or more muzzle blast in my field of view. So I just have a thread protector on it now.

These changes make is a “featureless” rifle. The ban, and registration requirements don’t apply to featureless rifles.

It handles a little like a Ruger 10-22 now. But has the functions and modularity of an AR.

I still prefer it over the 10-22.

SFC D

May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders.

KoB

In other Commiefornia news, Guv “Hairgel” Noisesome got another loan of $4 +- BILLION to cover illegal invader’s health care costs. Brings the total up to nearly $10 BILLION.

Hope The Spapos enjoys paying his share of that.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/needs-resign-blue-state-blasted-asking-loan-amid-skyrocketing-immigrant-healthcare-costs

AW1Ed

Agreed, which is why I don’t get spun up over bills in the first place.

docduracoat

Is there any chance this bill, or the amended one will pass ?
And will the governor ( now looking to run for president) sign it?

Commissar

This version won’t pass.

It will be withdrawn soon.

He might try again with a new version.

He is a true believer in the “duty to retreat.”

But he squandered a lot of capital on this attempt. So he may wait a while.

SFC D

Isn’t awesome to live in a state that places the rights of a criminal above the rights of its citizens? No wonder you sing its praises!