Well, the Supremes, in a major disappointment, refused to rule on Illinois’ “assault rifle” ban despite the fatuous reasoning of the 7th Circuit Court from whom the buck was passed.
Last year, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority ruled that gun restrictions, in order to be constitutional, must be analogous to laws on the books at the nation’s founding. As a result, an Illinois gun retailer and a gun rights advocacy group challenged the state’s law, contending that the “ban is not consistent with the nation’s history and tradition of firearms regulation and fails constitutional muster.”
An ideologically mixed panel of the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the law, however, writing that the Supreme Court’s recent decision on the right to bear arms “extends only to weapons in common use for a lawful purpose,” not to semiautomatic weapons that “are much more like machine guns and military-grade weaponry than they are like the many different types of firearms that are used for individual self-defense.” NPR
Apparently no one on the Supreme Court read their own decision on Bruen, as the most common type of centerfire rifle sold IS the AR. Rifle murders only happen a few hundred times a year (most killings are done with handguns). The 7th’s decision should have been tossed on its ear, not ducked by a Court that should know better. Oh, with only just over two weeks to go, mandatory Illinois citizen registration compliance is hovering around 1%.
But Biden’s folks are watching, and gun violence czar Kamala is encouraging action at the state level since support at a Federal level just isn’t there.
The administration is encouraging state officials to establish their own state-level gun violence prevention offices; to invest in gun violence prevention, such as community violence intervention programs; to bolster support for survivors and victims affected by gun violence; to push for safe storage and reporting of lost and stole firearms; and to enact legislation to strengthen background checks and ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
If all that doesn’t sound familiar, you aren’t paying attention. If they can create vast stretches of the US where semi-autos are banned, they create enough legal confusion to make gun ownership anywhere difficult. Pity there isn’t some clear, easy to understand Federal law applying to all 50 states:. How about “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” But I would drop the first phrases because sure as shooting, waterheads will cite ‘militias’ as the reason to own a gun.
But hey, at least this bought and sold administration isn’t beholden to foreign oligarchs intent on subverting the justice system. Oh, wait…
Missouri’s Attorney General Andrew Bailey sent letters to congress Wednesday to urge both Republican and Democrat lawmakers “to further investigate and eliminate funding for programs that are counter-productive to public safety” and that “aid or encourage prosecutors to abuse discretion by refusing to bring criminals to justice.”
Bailey’s letters follow what he describes as a “galvanizing moment” in Missouri when disgraced St. Louis circuit attorney Kim Gardner – “a progressive soft-on-crime prosecutor” – let a repeat criminal out on bail who then drove his speeding car into a young girl, leaving her with injures that required the amputation of both of her legs.
Bailey names the Vera Institute — a Brooklyn-based advocacy group that says it wants to “transform the criminal and legal justice systems” with ties to Washington, D.C., Democrats — as a “deeply embedded” key partner in Gardner’s former office, “turning it into a catastrophic social experiment more concerned with lowering prosecution rates than convicting violent criminals.”
(George – ed.) Soros’ Open Society Foundations donated nearly $11 million to the Vera Institute in previous years.
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AW1 Rod
1 year ago
They only refused to issue an emergency stay. Now, the issue will be brought before SCOTUS again, when they’ll rule on the actual merits of the case. Or lack thereof.
Could they not have issued a stay while they considered the actual merits? And who knows how long before they decide if/when they will hear the case again.
While I wish they’d issued a stay (it seems logical that, if the validity of a law is in-question, it should not hold any standing until and if that validity is determined), it helps to know they didn’t completely knuckle under.
Odie
1 year ago
Something else in Illinois that goes into effect January 1st.
Part of their plan indeed, the goal of the rich leftists is to turn the USA into a third world shithole, they want to burn it all down so they can rule over the ashes and rubble.
“Our military already does it & it’s the right thing to do—no matter what lies the right-wing spreads.” Nice try, Governor, but our military doesn’t perform law enforcement functions, and the people you’re allowing to become police officers are STILL illegally in the country, are NOT U.S. citizens, can’t legally possess firearms, and do not have the power of even citizens arrest. So, you can try to weasel your way out of these “lies”, but you have to deal with the fact that they’re all TRUE.
fm2176
1 year ago
“How about “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” But I would drop the first phrases because sure as shooting, waterheads will cite ‘militias’ as the reason to own a gun.”
I was teenager back then, and my memory is already not what it once was (just got my VA password straightened out this morning after locking myself out a few months ago). But I draw some parallels between what’s happening now and what happened in the ’90s, when they actually managed to ban “assault weapons”. The AWB took effect nearly two years into Clinton’s first term, after calls for something to be done after a series of mass shootings (sound familiar?). Oh, and it was also preceded by two major events that proved why Americans need to be armed IAW our Founding Fathers’ intent also happened: Ruby Ridge and Waco. Randy Weaver and David Koresh may have been complete angels, but they both found themselves on the receiving end of massive government overreach.
By the time I was old enough to buy a gun, I bought many, including “assault weapons” like a MAK-90, AR-15, HK91, and FN-FAL. My single criminal conviction was due to such a weapon, when a State Trooper told a judge that my Mossberg 500 was a type of weapon that he felt no civilian should be able to own (18″ barrel and pistol grip made it an “assault weapon”. So, let’s see, Clinton was about to enter his second term, and the “dangerous anti-government militia” hype was all over the news cycles.
To continue, “But I would drop the first phrases because sure as shooting, waterheads will cite ‘militias’ as the reason to own a gun.”
Very true. There are those who are viewing the continuing arrests and prosecutions of January 6th “Insurrectionists” and the increasing number of indictments against Trump as evidence of a corrupt and overreaching government, much like people did thirty years ago after the two sieges. All it’s going to take is a few Bubbas with AR-15s to give every Patriotic American gun owner a bad name. They’ve already started with the hyperbole: Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot – Wikipedia. Funny how many Feds infiltrate such groups and plots–similar to the out-of-place looking suspected Feds agitating things back in 2020 through now.
“Bubba, we gots to do somethin’ about this gubmint, Brandon Boy is gonna take our guns if we don’t.” “Jesse, I met this nice clean cut young feller at the corner store last week. Says he’s an Iraqistan veteran and has some full-auto lowers for those PSA uppers we just got.” “Let’s go meet him, Jimbo, then grab your hunting camo and meet me at the hunting camp.” “Now, Bubba, I know you was a Recon SEAL running black ops in Panama, but it’s been a few decades since I did a pushup.” “Lookie here, Jesse, the only tough day wuz yesterday, and besides, you were a Green Beret back in the ‘Nam in ’78, so you know tough [Jesse was born in ’73].”
“CNN BREAKING NEWS: Domestic terrorist cell planned to topple government, says FBI confidential informant. The group of highly trained military veterans had a compound, containing a weapons cache containing weapons of war [five hunting rifles and shotguns, and a few handguns]. Exclusive footage at 8.”
Footage: drunk SV rednecks stumbling through the woods and trying to one up each other with their “war stories”.
If Kyle Rittenhouse did not have that AR-15 on the night in question, he would be dead now. He had that rifle in part because it was illegal for him under Wisconsin law to possess a pistol. I listened to what happened to him that night on a radio interview a couple of weeks ago. Four different people tried to kill him that night. Luckily, he took out three of them, two KIA and one WIA. Donate to his defense fund; he is being sued by the criminal asshole he shot in the arm and the relatives of the psycho paedo and the skateboard dude.
Even though he had that AR15, he would have been dead had he not acted in self-defense. Trying to talk down his aggressors, hoping that a “big, scary black rifle” would deter them, or even brandishing the rifle without firing it would have resulted in him being disarmed, defenseless, and at the mercy of a group of violent rioters in a fever frenzy. I’ve seen the video and watched him as a guest on a few GunTuber channels. The kid got in over his head, realized that the presence of a gun alone will not always prevent an assault, and then quickly surmised that activating the “bang switch” was his best option.
Pedo Shorty got heated, went for the gun, and then turned cold. Sk8ter Boi tried to take him out and rolled on into the afterlife, then the Amazing Bicep-less Man earned his superpower after trying to execute Rittenhouse.
Yes, in the video you can see Bicep-less Man trying to shoot Kyle in the head just a millisecond before Kyle shoots him in the arm. That video saved Kyle’s bacon at the trial. He would be an asset in any gunfiight.
That AWB was just more kabuki theater. If slick willy had been serious he would have been pushing confiscation, not merely restriction. But they knew if they had done that, particularly back then, that slick willy and a lot of his buds would have been dead shortly after it started happening.
So, these 7th Circus legal geniuses think all semiauto firearms are “much more like military weapons” and should be forbidden to civilians. What morons, ignorant of the history of semi-auto firearms. Both Winchester and Remington were making semi-auto rifles that were commonly used in hunting as far back as the early 1900’s. Moreover, semi-auto pistols were commonly available for purchase in the 1890’s. Millions of semiauto pistols were made and sold to anyone with the price back in the early 1900’s. I guess if crooked, pug-faced Pritzker wants to outlaw them as well, that will be OK with those cucks on the 7th Cir.
To further elaborate on your point, the intent of the 2nd Amendment was to ensure that the citizenry had the right to arms commensurate to those which a government had. Given the means, a landowner could own a cannon and muskets as good or better than what the early US Army had, or a warship equal to that which the US Navy had at the time.
Things are complicated now, with complex laws preventing someone like, say, Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos from simply buying an F-22 or Patriot system. We “bottom feeders” can’t even afford a machine gun, since the last transferable ones were registered nearly 38 years ago. But semi-auto firearms are merely an evolution of firearms technology that permits the user to maximize the effectiveness of their “tool”.
Now, would I feel unarmed with my revolvers and lever and bolt guns? No. But would I rather get in a fight with one of the Glocks and the PC Carbine and adequate mags? Of course. Semi-auto firearms have marginally higher rates of fire (a highly skilled revolver shooter can outdo any of us armed with a Wonder Nine, though, just ask Jerry Miculek) and offer a quicker reload (again, unless you’re up against Miculek). The capacity is what matters, hence why anti-2A states want us restricted to 10 or fewer rounds.
We’ve bought a few used AWB-era guns, and the guy that buys them is still in his late-20s, so he doesn’t know about the history of those. I see them and have bad memories of the ’90s and early ’00s, when manufacturers had to design guns to meet that 10-round cap. Fortunately, many of those were able to take pre-ban mags.
For those that didn’t know or forgot, the Clinton AWB did not effectively ban all purported “assault” rifles. The law was circumvented by manufacturers by removing flash hiders, bayonet studs, and pistol grips. The law did ban the manufacture or importation and sale of magazines with more than ten rounds. AK variant rifles were prohibited from importation. Even the FBI admitted the law had negligible reduction in gun crimes.
Yes, that is the objective of all their bogus gun control laws passed in the past 70 years. Of course, there is their concealed objective of disarming lawful gun owners. But that is a progressive, on going process.
They only refused to issue an emergency stay. Now, the issue will be brought before SCOTUS again, when they’ll rule on the actual merits of the case. Or lack thereof.
Could they not have issued a stay while they considered the actual merits? And who knows how long before they decide if/when they will hear the case again.
Yup. They could’ve, but elected not to.
Worries me, too.
While I wish they’d issued a stay (it seems logical that, if the validity of a law is in-question, it should not hold any standing until and if that validity is determined), it helps to know they didn’t completely knuckle under.
Something else in Illinois that goes into effect January 1st.
https://policetribune.com/illinois-governor-signs-law-to-let-non-u-s-citizens-become-law-enforcement-officers/
All part of the plan… You HAVE seen how the “police” operate in the third world shitholes where these illegals are coming from, right?
Part of their plan indeed, the goal of the rich leftists is to turn the USA into a third world shithole, they want to burn it all down so they can rule over the ashes and rubble.
Holy Moly, this shit can’t get any better, these TAH posts are like a sore pecker, you can;t beat them. I love it.
Do it for a Green Card!
“Our military already does it & it’s the right thing to do—no matter what lies the right-wing spreads.”
Nice try, Governor, but our military doesn’t perform law enforcement functions, and the people you’re allowing to become police officers are STILL illegally in the country, are NOT U.S. citizens, can’t legally possess firearms, and do not have the power of even citizens arrest. So, you can try to weasel your way out of these “lies”, but you have to deal with the fact that they’re all TRUE.
“How about “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” But I would drop the first phrases because sure as shooting, waterheads will cite ‘militias’ as the reason to own a gun.”
I was teenager back then, and my memory is already not what it once was (just got my VA password straightened out this morning after locking myself out a few months ago). But I draw some parallels between what’s happening now and what happened in the ’90s, when they actually managed to ban “assault weapons”. The AWB took effect nearly two years into Clinton’s first term, after calls for something to be done after a series of mass shootings (sound familiar?). Oh, and it was also preceded by two major events that proved why Americans need to be armed IAW our Founding Fathers’ intent also happened: Ruby Ridge and Waco. Randy Weaver and David Koresh may have been complete angels, but they both found themselves on the receiving end of massive government overreach.
By the time I was old enough to buy a gun, I bought many, including “assault weapons” like a MAK-90, AR-15, HK91, and FN-FAL. My single criminal conviction was due to such a weapon, when a State Trooper told a judge that my Mossberg 500 was a type of weapon that he felt no civilian should be able to own (18″ barrel and pistol grip made it an “assault weapon”. So, let’s see, Clinton was about to enter his second term, and the “dangerous anti-government militia” hype was all over the news cycles.
To continue, “But I would drop the first phrases because sure as shooting, waterheads will cite ‘militias’ as the reason to own a gun.”
Very true. There are those who are viewing the continuing arrests and prosecutions of January 6th “Insurrectionists” and the increasing number of indictments against Trump as evidence of a corrupt and overreaching government, much like people did thirty years ago after the two sieges. All it’s going to take is a few Bubbas with AR-15s to give every Patriotic American gun owner a bad name. They’ve already started with the hyperbole: Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot – Wikipedia. Funny how many Feds infiltrate such groups and plots–similar to the out-of-place looking suspected Feds agitating things back in 2020 through now.
“Bubba, we gots to do somethin’ about this gubmint, Brandon Boy is gonna take our guns if we don’t.” “Jesse, I met this nice clean cut young feller at the corner store last week. Says he’s an Iraqistan veteran and has some full-auto lowers for those PSA uppers we just got.” “Let’s go meet him, Jimbo, then grab your hunting camo and meet me at the hunting camp.” “Now, Bubba, I know you was a Recon SEAL running black ops in Panama, but it’s been a few decades since I did a pushup.” “Lookie here, Jesse, the only tough day wuz yesterday, and besides, you were a Green Beret back in the ‘Nam in ’78, so you know tough [Jesse was born in ’73].”
“CNN BREAKING NEWS: Domestic terrorist cell planned to topple government, says FBI confidential informant. The group of highly trained military veterans had a compound, containing a weapons cache containing weapons of war [five hunting rifles and shotguns, and a few handguns]. Exclusive footage at 8.”
Footage: drunk SV rednecks stumbling through the woods and trying to one up each other with their “war stories”.
If Kyle Rittenhouse did not have that AR-15 on the night in question, he would be dead now. He had that rifle in part because it was illegal for him under Wisconsin law to possess a pistol. I listened to what happened to him that night on a radio interview a couple of weeks ago. Four different people tried to kill him that night. Luckily, he took out three of them, two KIA and one WIA. Donate to his defense fund; he is being sued by the criminal asshole he shot in the arm and the relatives of the psycho paedo and the skateboard dude.
2 of the 3 were pedophiles. No woodchippers needed.
I’ll have to look into that lawsuit and the fund…
Even though he had that AR15, he would have been dead had he not acted in self-defense. Trying to talk down his aggressors, hoping that a “big, scary black rifle” would deter them, or even brandishing the rifle without firing it would have resulted in him being disarmed, defenseless, and at the mercy of a group of violent rioters in a fever frenzy. I’ve seen the video and watched him as a guest on a few GunTuber channels. The kid got in over his head, realized that the presence of a gun alone will not always prevent an assault, and then quickly surmised that activating the “bang switch” was his best option.
Pedo Shorty got heated, went for the gun, and then turned cold. Sk8ter Boi tried to take him out and rolled on into the afterlife, then the Amazing Bicep-less Man earned his superpower after trying to execute Rittenhouse.
Yes, in the video you can see Bicep-less Man trying to shoot Kyle in the head just a millisecond before Kyle shoots him in the arm. That video saved Kyle’s bacon at the trial. He would be an asset in any gunfiight.
That AWB was just more kabuki theater. If slick willy had been serious he would have been pushing confiscation, not merely restriction. But they knew if they had done that, particularly back then, that slick willy and a lot of his buds would have been dead shortly after it started happening.
Prepare
Or MTTCAODRA, Make The Tax Collector Afraid Of Dirt Roads Again.
That shine ain’t gonna protect itself.
Don’t tease me with a good time, -Dog. There may and/or may not be a Cat Master Key on my key ring.
You have any cat key, you got them all. Same with John deere, Kubota, case etc
CUCV, Motorola…
So, these 7th Circus legal geniuses think all semiauto firearms are “much more like military weapons” and should be forbidden to civilians. What morons, ignorant of the history of semi-auto firearms. Both Winchester and Remington were making semi-auto rifles that were commonly used in hunting as far back as the early 1900’s. Moreover, semi-auto pistols were commonly available for purchase in the 1890’s. Millions of semiauto pistols were made and sold to anyone with the price back in the early 1900’s. I guess if crooked, pug-faced Pritzker wants to outlaw them as well, that will be OK with those cucks on the 7th Cir.
To further elaborate on your point, the intent of the 2nd Amendment was to ensure that the citizenry had the right to arms commensurate to those which a government had. Given the means, a landowner could own a cannon and muskets as good or better than what the early US Army had, or a warship equal to that which the US Navy had at the time.
Things are complicated now, with complex laws preventing someone like, say, Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos from simply buying an F-22 or Patriot system. We “bottom feeders” can’t even afford a machine gun, since the last transferable ones were registered nearly 38 years ago. But semi-auto firearms are merely an evolution of firearms technology that permits the user to maximize the effectiveness of their “tool”.
Now, would I feel unarmed with my revolvers and lever and bolt guns? No. But would I rather get in a fight with one of the Glocks and the PC Carbine and adequate mags? Of course. Semi-auto firearms have marginally higher rates of fire (a highly skilled revolver shooter can outdo any of us armed with a Wonder Nine, though, just ask Jerry Miculek) and offer a quicker reload (again, unless you’re up against Miculek). The capacity is what matters, hence why anti-2A states want us restricted to 10 or fewer rounds.
We’ve bought a few used AWB-era guns, and the guy that buys them is still in his late-20s, so he doesn’t know about the history of those. I see them and have bad memories of the ’90s and early ’00s, when manufacturers had to design guns to meet that 10-round cap. Fortunately, many of those were able to take pre-ban mags.
For those that didn’t know or forgot, the Clinton AWB did not effectively ban all purported “assault” rifles. The law was circumvented by manufacturers by removing flash hiders, bayonet studs, and pistol grips. The law did ban the manufacture or importation and sale of magazines with more than ten rounds. AK variant rifles were prohibited from importation. Even the FBI admitted the law had negligible reduction in gun crimes.
But it looked good and sustained the illusion that “we’re doing something”. And that’s all that matters.
Yes, that is the objective of all their bogus gun control laws passed in the past 70 years. Of course, there is their concealed objective of disarming lawful gun owners. But that is a progressive, on going process.