CDC removes pro-gun findings under pressure from Gun Control groups

| December 16, 2022

Stats sourced from a CDC-commissioned study found that instances of defensive gun use occur between 60,000 and 2.5 million times per year.

References to that study were deleted from the site following private meetings with gun control advocates in 2021, emails obtained and published by The Reload show.

“[T]hat 2.5 Million number needs to be killed, buried, dug up, killed again and buried again,” Mark Bryant, executive director of the Gun Violence Archive, wrote to the CDC in one of the emails. “It is highly misleading, is used out of context and I honestly believe it has zero value — even as an outlier point in honest DGU discussions.””And while that very small study by Gary Kleck has been debunked repeatedly by everyone from all sides of this issue [even Kleck] it still remains canon by gun rights folks…”  Yahoo News

Funny, Gary Kleck, the researcher who DID the study, doesn’t seem to agree – in his words:

It’s deja vu all over again. In a recent Politico Magazine article, Evan DeFilippis and Devin Hughes resuscitate criticisms of a survey on defensive gun use that I conducted with my colleague Marc Gertz way back in 1993—the National Self-Defense Survey (NSDS). The authors repeat, item for item, speculative criticisms floated by a man named David Hemenway in 1997 and repeated endlessly since. The conclusion these critics drew is that our survey grossly overestimated the frequency of defensive gun use (DGU), a situation in which a crime victim uses a gun to threaten or attack the offender in self-defense. But what DeFilippis and Hughes carefully withheld from readers is the fact that I and my colleague have refuted every one of Hemenway’s dubious claims, and those by other critics of the NSDS, first in 1997, and again, even more extensively, in 1998 and 2001. Skeptical readers can check for themselves if we failed to refute them—the 1998 version is publicly available here.

DeFilippis and Hughes could refute any of our rebuttals, that would be news worth attending to. … Instead, they just pretend they are not aware of the rebuttals, even though our first systematic dismantling of Hemenway’s speculations was published in the exact same issue of the journal that published Hemenway’s 1997 critique, on the pages immediately following the Hemenway article.

The authors, a couple of Oklahoma investment counselors with no graduate degrees, do not claim to have had any training in survey research methods. Like Hemenway (who is also untrained in survey methods), they believe that it’s perfectly plausible that surveys generate enormous over-estimates of crime-related experiences, as if this were the most commonplace thing in the world. Politico

OK,  I get it. You’re tired of anti-gun-control articles. Heck, I’m tired of getting the opportunity to write these liars. The point is, the CDC is here on record pushing its own research to the side based on political pressure.  Kinda makes you wonder how quickly in the last several years “follow the science” meant “follow the money.”

(I’d love to say “Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress” came to mind when I saw this pic…to be frank, it was a Joe Tex song. You young ‘uns can go look up Joe Tex.)

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President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

“Skinny Legs And All” (1967)??

And where are her eyeballs? Zoom in … they are pale, if there a’tall.

AW1 Rod

Of course they removed it. To the CDC, the facts…while interesting…are irrelevant.

ninja

Could have sworn “Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress” was composed and performed by The Hollies around 1972..🤔

KoB

You are correct, ninja. And Tox is also. Maybe David was distracted by those Skinny Legs and All of the featured Black Haired Beauty. Bob Seger grins. Joe Tex got a lot of air time here locally from the predominately Black Promoted Radio Station WIBB. Remember well the incident in the ’60s when Joe and James Brown were involved in a literal gunfight. Brother-in-Law and Former Marine was the Bouncer and Sis was a Bartender at the clubs where many of the Soul Groups played. Big O (Otis Redding) is reputed to have tried to cool that feud down.

CDC needs to go work on finding cures and perps that are responsible for releasing biological warfare upon the world and quit blaming innocent firearms for the stupidity of idiots. There is no doubt in my mind that self defense stories are suppressed. On my daily hunt, thru multiple news feeds, I have found that if I don’t snag them when they FIRST (ht2 -Dog) pop up, they will go “poof”.

abn/rtr/hbtd

ninja

Joe Tex:

In 1972, he came out with the song “I Gotcha!”

That song as well as the Hollies, Bob Seger, Otis Redding songs brought back wonderful memories of our Youth.

We had an all Black AM Radio Station in our AO with Call Letters WEUP. One of my Buddies was one of their DJ. His Family owned the station. He would be on air early morning before coming to the Junior High and High School that we both attended and always started his airtime with “We’z Up! You Up?”

😆

AMEN on your comment reference the CDC…AMEN…!!!!

Boston Tea Party…16 December 1773!

hbtd/rtr/abn😉😎

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ninja

David wrote:

“St. Louis’ big soul station was KXLW, “the only Black spot on your St. Louie dial. Sooey, St. Louie!’”

LOVE IT! Thanks for sharing, David!

👍👍

ninja

Showing our age.

He was 78…

“Dino Danelli, Drummer For Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Jersey Band The Rascals, Has Died”

https://www.app.com/story/entertainment/music/2022/12/16/dino-danelli-drummer-for-new-jersey-band-the-rascals-has-died/69733045007/

🎶 “All the world over, So easy to see..
People everywhere just wanna be free..
Listen, please listen, that’s the way it should be…
There’s peace in the valley, people got to be free”🎶

🎶 “Groovin’ on a Sunday afternoon
Really, couldn’t get away too soon
I can’t imagine anything that’s better
The world is ours whenever we’re together
There ain’t a place I’d like to be,
Instead of groovin’ down a crowded avenue,
Doin’ anything we like to do”🎶

🎶”How can I be sure
In a world that’s constantly changing?
How can I be sure
Where I stand with you”🎶

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rgr1480

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Long Tall Girl sounds like “Long Tall Girl” sung by the Carnations in 1961 on the Lescay record label.

Roh-Dog

OK, I get it. You’re tired of anti-gun-control articles.

Naw hoss, T.J. inspired us to have ‘eternal vigilance’ and given the state of affairs, with our fellow citizens yielding to comforts’ sake or allowing the false swap of safety and liberty, you can, we SHALL keep ringing that bell until all, preferably by will, become subservient to our Constitution.

….

That poor weapons rack is in need of a samitch.

Wireman611

It would appear that since the lib’s, bureaucrats and other slimy political creatures discovered the memory hole in “1984”, they have used the hell out of it. But they forget one of the laws of data, in that, data, once created cannot be destroyed. I.E. The internet is forever.

Old tanker

What do you call a “research” organization that refuses to follow proper research protocols and falsifies their findings at the demand of the politicians in power?

Propagandists working for their demagogue masters.

Flagwaver

Interesting. If the CDC is willing to remove data based on public/political opinion, what else are they willing to do based on public/political opinion?

Roh-Dog

Um, the last 3 years-n-running?

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Only people who want to disarm the law abiding believe that DGU isn’t a thing…

I have close family where DGU is the only reason I still have that close family member…

I realize one story isn’t analogous to a complete, scientific study, but for me it’s personal confirmation of what I’ve known all along; in a world where predators and victims come in all shapes and sizes a firearm makes potential victims capable of balancing the disparities between themselves and a predator.

A free people doesn’t ask permission for the means with which to defend themselves from predation and tyranny.

ninja

Speaking of the Black Hair beauty featured in today’s p9st..

One of Canada’s Finest….

We doubt anyone here will “hit” it…well, maybe with a flyswatter on the noggin to knock some sense into its head…

Either this Dude is trying to prank folks or has some serious brain hiccups, i.e. a screw loose, i.e. serious mental issues, i.e. personality disorder..

Imagine if a female teacher showed up in a school with a huge prosthetic penis…Will the School Board allow that?

Dude is a Shop Teacher?

“Students Banned From Taking Photos Of Trans Teacher With Z-Size Prosthetic Breasts

https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/trans-teacher-with-z-sized-prosthetic-breasts-sparks-photo-ban/

‘Students at Halton School District have been “threatened with suspension” for taking any photos or videos of Oakville Trafalgar High School teacher Kayla Lemieux, who’s regularly seen at the school with her massive chest and blond wig…”

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Roh-Dog

Well, Ontario is also the province where “Coronavirus disease (COVID) vaccine hesitancy is a reflection of psychology that might also contribute to traffic safety. We tested whether COVID vaccination was associated with the risks of a traffic crash.”

True fucking story.

(or if you don’t want the amjorpsyop’s aids cookies)

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UpNorth

What’s the punishment for rolling on the floor, and laughing?

Roh-Dog

Mooing?

poetrooper

Yet, we’re the ones labeled “conspiracy theorists” for believing the CDC cooks the books.

Odd isn’t it, how so many of our conspiracy theories ultimately prove to be factual? 🤔  🙄  🤔 

Docduracoat

That woman is very pretty.
Took me a while to notice there was an AK in the picture!

Defensive gun uses,displays/brandishing are very common.
Mass shootings are very rare.
Yet progressive outlets will state that there been over 600 mass shootings this year and deny defensive gun uses.
Facts seem to have very little place in their world view

Prior Service

Sorry but I’m just not a fan of the AK. Any weapon that has armed pretty much every enemy of America for the last sixty years is a no go for me. Not opposed to anybody else liking them but as for me, it’s like my opinion of the NFL.

jb

Gun control is coming. So is speech and thought control. Immigrants will put the far left into power and they will end your traditional rights. You brought this on yourselves when you let the crooks and traitors who run your political party, the Republicans, take bribes from billionaires to hold open the borders for the last 40 years. You swallowed the camel and now it’s gnat soup for you and your children from here on out. You VILL eat zee bugs.