Raptor bites Army personnel

| October 17, 2022

Back in 2005 with wars popping up all over, the Army launched a recruiting incentive plan to pay bonuses to people who recommended folks who enlisted. No potential for problems there, eh? Johnny wants to enlist, says his buddy Ronny sent him to the recruiter, Ronny splits the $2000 with Johnny and everyone is happy.

The soldiers’ saga started in 2005, at the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The U.S. military needed more bodies, so it started the National Guard Recruiting Assistance Program (G-RAP) and its smaller Army Reserve counterpart (AR-RAP).

The programs created thousands of temporary recruiters overnight, offering $2,000 for each person they steered toward the Guard.

Over all, the program cost almost $460 million to bring in 150,000 recruits. It was contracted out to a company called Docupak, via a process which met almost no government acquisitions standards, contracted by a National Guard officer, Kay Hensen, who went to work for Docupak. Smells, right?

An Army audit found “thousands … of participants who were associated with payments that are at high or medium risk for fraud,” Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Democrat from Missouri, said during a scathing 2014 hearing demanding answers from the Army. As if all that was not bad enough, the Army has determined in its investigation that the entire program was illegal from the beginning,” McCaskill said in the hearing, noting that the payments exceeded limits Congress had placed on bonuses the Army could pay. “All of the money spent on the program … was illegal.”

So the Army launched Task Force Raptor to ferret out the fraud.

The Army vowed to investigate all 106,364 people paid by the recruiting program and launched Task Force Raptor, believed to be its biggest investigation in history.

Critics of the probes argue that the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division (CID) agents made sloppy cases against the recruiting assistants, accusing them of stealing personal information from recruits they had never met and collecting payment as if they had referred them to the Guard.

“If they didn’t say the recruiting assistant’s name, the investigators assumed the recruiting assistant was guilty of criminal misconduct which is absolutely ridiculous,” said O’Connell, who has represented around 225 G-RAP participants in both civil and criminal cases.

The Army said in 2014 they would show $100,000,000 in fraud.  By 2017 they revised that to $6 million, and by now they are up to (drum roll please!) just over a half-million in recovered funds and fines.   They have spent $28,000,000 to accomplish this.

Then  CID “titled” the folks they investigated – inserting notice in their permanent records that the soldiers were investigated:

Titling is a process within CID that creates a permanent record showing a soldier was the subject of an investigation regardless of whether they are ever charged with a crime.

Then the Army forwarded that information to the FBI’s criminal database where the titles show up as an arrest, O’Connell said.

In the example cases provided, one captain’s promotion packet was derailed by titling. In another, a vet working as a police officer had his CCW denied – and then lost his job, because the Army shows an arrest.  In all, over 2500 files were ‘titled’ , 1500+ cases were referred to civilian prosecutors who prosecuted 137 and declined to pursue the rest.

So CID has spent all most 30 mill to recover barely more than a half a million, wasted 6 years doing so, and tarred hundreds of folks’ records with entries which make them look like felons – and won’t correct the records.

Fifty-three soldiers and veterans affiliated with G-RAP asked CID to remove the title from their record as of 2021. The Army denied every single request, according to data an adviser for a U.S. senator shared with Fox News on the condition of anonymity.

Fox News

Even I can tell that now is the time for a fair and objective investigation by an outside agency. Read the article.

Category: Big Army, Exploitation, Government Incompetence

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HT3

Am I the only that wonders exactly how much of the military’s budget is squandered? Between the $500 toilet seats, the cost-over runs on weapons systems and stories like this how much is burned up every year Joker style? 10%? 25? More?

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26Limabeans

Don’t forget the 10% for the big guy.

ninja

You mean Dick Cheney????

😉😉😉😉😉😉

Roh-Dog

I will not rest until DotMil at the very least apologizes for the F-35 and the clot shot mandates.

Agent Orange and the associated slow walking shoulda let us know who these people are.

Fucking Clown World.

Devtun

SecDef Rumsfeld was on Capitol Hill on Sep 10, 2001 testifying on the DoD budget, and couldn’t explain the whereabouts of $2 trillion. Wonder what that figure is up to now.

Twist

Years ago there was a Senator, from Kansas or Nebraska I believe, that used to post things that the DoD wasted money on. The truly outrageous ones that stick in my mind to this day was that the DoD had given millions in grants to study what fish can teach us about Democracy and one to study why lesbians tend to be overweight. I wish I was kidding.

timactual

“Golden Fleece Award”, Senator William Proxmire (D., Wis.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Fleece_Award

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Uh oh. The Spammer is back.

Thunderstixx

$5,000 toilet seats, $500.00 hammers and God only knows what else…

Mick

temporary recruiters + $2000 bonuses = rampant fraud?

I’m shocked. Shocked, I say.

Who could have foreseen such nefarious behavior?

Berliner

$2k = fraud incentive. Recruiter duty pay when I was on duty was $150 a month.

ninja

Something is not ringing right about this story reference Kay Hensen and Docupak.

Quick reference indicates her claims working for the NGB from 2000-2006 as a “Supervisory Contracting Officer – Procurement Analyst”, then the Montana Army National Guard as a “Supervisory Contracting Officer”, then Docupak 2008-2014 as the “Senior Contract Manager / Compliance Officer”.

I was an Army Level 3 Certified KO with an Unlimited Warrant. Will check “The Rest Of The Story”, i.e. Who was her PARC? What was her AOR? Who was the customer, i.e. who came up with the idea? Who approved and allocated the dollars? Did Hensen have a Warrant? Was she a DoD Civilian or Military? Her rank? Her experience in the Acquisition Corps?

USAFRetired

I’d be interested to know which warranted KO signed the contract with Docupak.

Occassionally some shadiness among KOs come through. Can you say Darleen Druyun?

USMC Steve

While it is I guess a good thing that Mccaskill caught them at it, I find it very funny that a socialist democrat was bitching people out at spending money they should not have been spending.

Bones

She didn’t get her taste.

ninja

David wrote:

“It was contracted out to a company called Docupak, via a process which met almost no government acquisitions standards, contracted by a National Guard officer, Kay Hensen, who went to work for Docupak.
Smells, right?”

Not necessarily a true statement.

Some Staff in either the Pentagon or the NGB at the Pentagon came up with the Recruiting idea. Why? Was the Active Army (AC) overwhelmed in supporting 2 Combat Theater of Operations plus other missions that AC Soldiers were being redeployed in the same AOR? Were there not enough NG Troops/Units to go forward in the sandbox to do a Battle Hand Off with AC?

Some Staff or maybe a GO said “We need more NG Soldiers”…then a study was conducted along with a cost analysis. What better way to recruit than with $$$$? A Statement of Work was written that went thru RM, JAG, Personnel, each State Guard, etc…

*CONTINUE*

ninja

After $$$ was approved by Congress for the NGB, after Legal review, after using the FAR, this was put out on a GS Website for solicitation for bidders. Best Value. Competition among bidders.

A contracting team had to had come together to determine who would be the Contractor for the NGB program.

Ducupak, a company from Alabaster, Alabama (outside of Birmingham) won and was awarded the contract.

Most likely, Hensen had an unlimited Warrant and signed the contract. Am speculating she was an AGR NG Officer at the time of the signing or a GS14.

She started working at Ducupak 3 years after the contract was signed. Will do more research on the length of the contract.

As with all grubby, greedy people, there were folks who got caught misuing the program. And because they got caught, the CID got involved. Innocent people getting punished because of greedy ducks.

Trust me on this one. I was in the Acquisition Field for a very long time.

*Continued*

ninja

Quit picking on the Company or the KO (Contracting Officer).

Focus on those Soldiers who abused the system…. “The Love Of Money Is The Root Of All Evil.”

ninja

Hi, David!

Thank You for the feedback.

Just did not understand the rationale of mentioning her name. She did not “award” the contract. “Awarding” a contact to a contractor is a Team Effort. It takes Legal, Resource Management, the Customer and a few KOs to sift thru everything before the KO signs the Contract.

She did not do this by herself.

And most likely, she was the lead Contracting Officer at the NGB in the DC and had an unlimited Warrant.

She went to work for that company 2 years after she signed that contract. I will check regulations, but am pretty sure that is not illegal.

IMHO, the story should have focused on the Soldiers who are getting screwed by the CID and those GREEDY Soldiers who care more about $$$$ than serving our Country.

BTW, Thank You for continuing to provide us articles. You and others have a tough job being Admin and Moderators…Thumbs Up!! 👍👍👍👍

USAFRetired

From memory the break required is five years and lifetime ban specific to the contract.

Sapper3307

I refused to sign up for it, not my job.

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SFC D

Holy shit! When did Murph make SFC?

Sapper3307

I remember him at 82nd Replacement!

SFC D

Ran into him at The Sorry Gulch Saloon one time.

ninja

That cartoon was painful to read….
😞

Trent

I refused to be involved as well. My Commander tried to include it on my OER. Thankfully my senior rater, a BG and a deputy US Marshal made my BC take it out. We both thought G-RAP was a bad idea.

Anna Puma

Those CID thugs are the true criminals. So when do they get a show on network TV like NCIS?

KoB

They had a coupla of Tee Vee Shows back in the day. One was called Keystone Kops and the other starred 3 dudes named Larry, Curly, and Moe.

Another classic example of why we can’t have nice things…and the National Debt is north of 30 Trillion $.

40 + years ago I was making calls on an ebil gruberment contractor and made a bid on power output transistors, 2SC1172B/GE 36/38 by part number. Quite common, solid state replacement for the beam power output tubes. I knew they were paying over $25 each and bid them at $5.25 each. At that price we were making 200% margins. Purchasing Agent informed me that “My present supplier is taking care of my needs quite well, Thank You.” He then explained how I could start “taking care of his needs” with some creative invoicing. Thanked him for his time, closed my brief case, left and dropped a dime on his azz. End result is he was transferred to buying plumbing parts. Maybe that’s where $600 toilet seats came about.

ninja

Tennessee.

3 Points.

☹️

KoB

😥 Took ’em 15 years to do it. That Tennessee Hound will be blue when it gets bit by a Real Dawg. Might get Rocky at the Top. rtr/hbtd

MustangCPT

So it was YOUR fault! As a former plumber, I’m going to wag my finger at you for that. 👉

ninja

http://www.defendourprotectors.com/about/

“The National Guard Recruiting Assistance Program (G-RAP) was a revolutionary recruiting concept, conceived in 2005 by then National Guard Bureau Director, General Clyde A. Vaughn and his director of Strength Maintenance, Colonel Mike Jones. The concept was simple: utilize the
energy, commitment and enthusiasm of off-duty soldiers to identify potential new recruits. Vaughn and Jones turned to their advertising buddy, Philip Crane, president of Alabama-based Docupak, to create and administer the concept.”

“Docupak enticed off-duty soldiers with the promise of easy money; Guard leadership pushed troops to participate. Off-duty soldiers would enroll as a Docupak subcontractor, take a brief quiz on National Guard values and be eligible to earn money.”

*Continue*

ninja

“For every potential new enlistee those subcontractors brought to an official Guard recruiter, the subcontractor would earn $1000. If that new recruit shipped to basic training, the Docupak subcontractor earned another $1000. For newly recruited officers, the Docupak payment was substantially higher.”

“Over seven years, G-RAP produced record numbers of recruits during a time when military recruitment was lagging; Guard troops were being deployed to dangerous Middle Eastern war zones and few people were interested in being in harm’s way. But G-RAP changed all that.”

“The other thing that G-RAP changed was its own set of rules. Over the seven years of the program, Docupak implemented as many as 60 different rules’ amendments. Many of Docupak’s contractors say that they were not made aware of these changes.”

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ninja

“And because official Guard recruiters were not eligible to participate in G-RAP – they received no guidance at all from the National Guard Bureau on how to work with the Docupak subcontractors.”

” By the time G-RAP ended, more than 100,000 new recruits had been enlisted, bringing the Guard back to full strength. But in G-RAP aftermath, General Vaughn received a reprimand for sloppy administration; Colonel Jones was cited by the Army Audit Agency for creating an atmosphere of intimidation; Docupak was admonished for failures; and all 106,000 Docupak subcontractors and hundreds of Guard recruiters were suspected of fraud.”

“Were one third of the Guard’s standing force criminals? No; there was a handful that gamed this poorly run program. They were prosecuted and appropriately punished.”

*Continue*

ninja

“But every one of Docupak’s subcontractors became suspects, many of them civilians by now and many more of them combat veterans. And, as suspects, their lives and careers have been ruined.”

“The authority that investigated potential G-RAP fraud was the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division (CID), whose operating procedures are classified and whose mission was essentially to define what constituted fraud and then ensure a robust prosecution by the U.S. government. In standard criminal justice, white-collar prosecutions, fraud requires intent. e.g. Did the suspect intend to defraud anyone? In G-RAP, fraud against
the United States government is defined as an inability to follow the cascading set of rules changes in a program run by a contractor in the private sector. A federal appeals court overturned a conviction finding that there was no basis for the prosecution to claim fraud against the U.S. Yet prosecutions continue.”

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ninja

“The Army CID has brought hundreds of cases of G-RAP fraud to U.S. Attorneys, filing as many as 50 felonies against a single individual. At trial, CID’s evidence is often only the agent’s interpretation of G-RAP rules that no one saw, and that may not even have existed. Regardless, none of those rules are actual laws that anyone broke. But in the face of multiple felonies, many juries find guilt based on the government’s adamancy. Those defendants are or will be sentenced to prison. Those found innocent are not off the hook because in the military, merely being investigated by CID creates a career-ending black mark on a personnel file. In many cases, the CID investigation also generates an entry in the National
Criminal Information Center which the subject doesn’t know until failing a background check.”

*Continue*

ninja

“So. even those out of the military are paying the price for a failure of leadership. It is possible every one of Docupak’s successful subcontractors has faced career-ending and life-changing consequences as a result of merely doing what they were asked to do: bring potential new recruits into the Guard.”

“This is a travesty of justice and a tragedy of enormous proportion for our nation’s veterans and military heroes.”

“The G-RAP investigation has led to suicide, divorce, bankruptcy, incarceration, homelessness, and despair.”

“When is someone going to do something about this?!”

Anonymous

There’ll be a comprehensive rider in the defense authorization act for FY2043 that fixes this, don’t worry.

ninja

2010.

A Greedy Duck.

“Military Recruiter Defrauded System”

https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/2010/12/01/military-recruiter-admits-defrauding-system/14570192007/

“Thomas Nolan Kaszas II, 34, of Evans was sentenced to federal prison by United States District Judge J. Randal Hall for a scheme to defraud a government contractor of thousands of dollars intended as bonuses to Georgia Army National Guard members who referred others to enlist.”

“According to a news release from the U.S. Attorney’s Office, KASZAS must serve a term of 20 months, without the possibility of parole.”

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ninja

“According to the evidence presented during the guilty plea and sentencing hearings, between March 2007 and December 2007, Kaszas submitted the names of numerous Georgia Army National Guard recruits to Docupak, Inc., under the name of another Guard member. Docupak was the government contractor that oversaw a program that paid Guard members up to $2,000 for each recruit they referred who enlisted and went to basic training.”

“As a recruiting sergeant in the Guard, KASZAS was not eligible to take part in the program, the news release stated.”

ninja

From 2012:

Fraud Investigation Targets Recruiting Program For Army National Guard, Reserves”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fraud-investigation-targets-recruiting-program-for-army-national-guard-reserves/2012/03/12/gIQAp1QXAS_story.html

“As a recruiter, Kaszas was not eligible to receive any bounties, but he set up a bank account with a recruiting assistant at the First Bank of Georgia, according to a federal indictment.”

“Over nine months in 2007, Kaszas’s partner claimed credit for more than a dozen new recruits and deposited $24,000 in bounties into the joint account. Virtually all of it was later wired to another bank account controlled by Kaszas, the indictment stated. Kaszas pleaded guilty in September 2010 to five counts of wire fraud and was ordered to repay $26,000 to Docupak.”

Green Thumb

I wonder how many recruits All-Points Logistics referred?

And how many of them turned out to be fake SEAL, SF, Ranger, etc.?

Phil Monkress must have been salivating over this program. Actually kinda curious if he did not try for the contract based upon his Navy SEAL and Native American claims.

5JC

Like most media articles that cover a complicated area this one is fraught with errors.

The bigger problem is not so much the fact that people were investigated it is that when they were reported to NCIC by the investigator improperly. When a LEA investigates someone they almost never report it to NCIC or any other agency unless an arrest, indictment or some other adverse type action is taken. Otherwise there would be tens of millions of people in there clogging up the system.

People were reported as being under indictment when an indictment had only been requested. Some were reported as having been arrested when only a warrant was requested. The reason the indictments and warrants were requested but never processed by the prosecuting office was due to lack probable cause. Only an idiot was send derogatory information into NCIC when there actually isn’t any but there you have it.

5JC

The program wasn’t just for the NG and AR it was also AD and there were quite few rules, such as if the recruit had ever spoken to a recruiter before then the referring person wasn’t eligible.

https://www.army.mil/article/2292/2000_army_recruiting_referral_bonus_expanded_to_army_civilians

The odds of potentional recruit never having spoken to a recruiter before (or at least the recruiter claiming he had spoken to the recruit before in 2005-9 were close to zero. In 2005 the Army missed it’s goal by 50K and the recruiting leadership was literally killing people to get them to bring in more recruits to fight in the wildly unpopular war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Army-to-stop-recruiting-for-1-day-after-Houston-1750426.php

“Flores’ friends and colleagues have said the 26-year-old station commander later told them the battalion’s command sergeant major had pressured him to admit he was a failure and that he wanted to quit”

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5JC

When you are reported to NCIC for an arrest or indictment there is supposed to be eventually some type of disposition code, so far as whatever happened to your case. You might think there would be some kind of time suspense on this but of course there isn’t.

People go to trial, 2,5,8,12 years after an indictment or arrest all the time. So long as the case is open and not closed than a clearance granting agency will not grant a clearance because the person is likely still subject to adverse action.

If the arrest was entered improperly than the only way to fix it is to track down the agency and have them fix it. In the military record keeping and continuity is terrible. If a county or city ran their agency like the Army (or God help you the National Guard) does they would have been decertified years ago.

5JC

So yes, this goes straight back to failures at CID at all levels. However, even when the program was implemented there were problems with suspected fraud from the beginning. For example JROTC instructors were initially eligible as retirees. In about six months one instructor pocketed $48K. Because hell yes, he was recruiting everyone in his school. So they stopped allowing that.

It seemed that whenever someone was being successful with the program they would look into it and decide that whatever was going on was wrong and change the rules and parameters so that the person was no longer eligible and then try to adopt whatever they were doing in a different way. USAREC at that time (probably still) used a system that changed regulations on a rolling basis by a messenger system. The messages would come out irregularly, mostly by whim. Literally something that was ok yesterday could get someone sent to Leavenworth tomorrow.

Fm2176

IIRC, there was a site to register on along with basic guidance on how to take advantage of A-RAP. They also sent some swag, like a boonie hat or something and maybe some stickers. I signed up but never referred anyone, then was made a Recruiter myself in 2008.

Recruiting, and by extension A-RAP, is a highly regulated duty. Basically, once someone has made contact with an Army Recruiter acting in their official capacity, they are off-limits for anything besides further processing. Meet a cute 20-something at a college job fair? You’d better keep it strictly professional. Your best friend called a Recruiter last week but is now on board with scoring an extra $1k? Not worth it, as some Guardsmen are finding out now. Not saying all, or even most, committed fraud, but there was plenty of talk going around back when RA offered this program.

Fm2176

As for the toxic atmosphere in USAREC, I reported to Baton Rouge Battalion not too long after Houston Battalion had its last incident. I got my PTDY and was put on numbers a couple of days before the mission month ended. Regardless, I was among those who spent all day Saturday retraining, and for corrective action I had to report 1-2 hours earlier than everyone else in the station and make at least 200 phone call attempts before I could go out each day, then make more phone calls between 1700-1900.

The April 2009 time off policy helped things a lot, but many 79Rs were slow to embrace it. One of our Reserve Recruiters had been with the station for over 10 years and told that that for a while they came in as early as 0600 and would often leave after midnight.

Anyway, Recruiters are easily tempted to find workarounds when it comes to production, so it’s easy to see how a Recruiter Assistant, especially one on Reserve or Guard status would be tempted to work the system.

5JC

I never saw any of the improvements.

I was a Company Commander in Houston Battalion in the midst of all that. Two of the suicides that occurred were in my former company about 8 months after I left. DA IG started emailing me in Iraq to ask what the hell had happened and I spilled the beans on all of them. Nobody would listen to me beforehand, they said it was just how things were done.

It really was that bad down there. I have seen toxic leadership before and since but nothing ever competed with what I saw there. I actually was questioning the sanity of some of the leadership at one point. They seemed to feed off of each other with the stupid shit that they would do that would lower morale. Then they would be surprised when people weren’t that excited about getting people to join the Army.

Roh-Dog

Create a program with no real oversight or checks & balances, suspect fraud, spot A fraud, investigate a bunch of people without a cogent plan or standard procedure, screw a bunch of people (to include Commissioned Officers) that joined and served their country in Her time of need, admit no fault, decline to fix anything, and finally go to Cabo on the ‘performance bonuses’ paid for fucking fellow Citizens unnecessarily?

Or in GovNewSpeak, ‘Monday‘.

Why just address this program but allow US Army Recruiting Command to continue? Every student of a school receiving ‘public funds’ has their data under control of those folks and opens themselves to the unsolicited harassment from a military recruiter.

I’m not ok with that.

Roh-Dog

EXTREME POSITION ALERT:
We were never ‘at war’ in/with/for Iraq. It had not been declared by Congress as such, the action was permitted by other, ex-constitutional means.

Words matter.

5JC

Most all Iraqi’s hold a different view on that. Kind of like how the Ukrainians don’t agree that the Russians are on a “Special Operation”. They feel like it is more of a war type thing.

Roh-Dog

The Iraqis should, as they are victims of the misapplication of force.

Ukraine and Russia isn’t even on the same field, nor the same sport, and not even remotely germane in context of my comment.

5JC

There was a lot of oversight at the time but imagine playing a football game where the rules changed every 3rd down and sometimes in the middle of the play. After the game is over go back and review the game using the last set of rules only. That is about the best analogy I can come up with.

Roh-Dog

So the guidance was sufficiently vague and program mismanaged?

How can there be a crime?

5JC

That is the $100,000,000 question isn’t it? That is what the Army went looking for and found a tiny fraction of that. So a bunch of folks, some well meaning, some not, got caught up in the same dystopian nightmare where they have to prove their innocence rather than being found guilty of something.

ninja

Did you all see this???

“Defense Accuses Informant in Governor Kidnapping Plot of Stolen Valor, Questions Army Service Record”

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/10/14/defense-accuses-informant-governor-kidnapping-plot-of-stolen-valor-questions-army-service-record.html

“A defense lawyer lashed out Thursday at a star witness in a trial related to a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, accusing the Army veteran of “stolen valor” and questioning why he wasn’t given a Purple Heart if he was truly injured in Iraq.”

“Joe Morrison, Pete Musico and Paul Bellar are not accused of directly participating in the Whitmer kidnapping scheme. But state prosecutors said they provided training and support to key players who were subsequently convicted of conspiracy in federal court.”

*Continue*

ninja

“Just like in the federal case, a crucial witness against the three men is Dan Chappel. He agreed in 2020 to become an informant, embedding himself for months inside the Watchmen after reporting to the FBI that the group talked chillingly about attacking police”.

“In response to questions from prosecutors, Chappel, 36, explained that he was simply looking for a way to maintain his gun skills when he joined the group, years after serving with the Army in Iraq. He told jurors that he suffered back and head trauma overseas that sometimes affected his memory.”

“Ballard, who is Morrison’s lawyer, pounced during cross-examination, challenging Chappel over his lack of a Purple Heart, a medal typically given to people injured in combat.”

*Continue*

ninja

“It’s relevant because they have put his combat, and his combat ability, and his combat wounds and everything into evidence,” Ballard said, referring to prosecutors. “They said this is who and what he is. It goes to his credibility.”

“Ballard, a former Marine, said a Purple Heart for Chappel’s injuries should have
been automatic under Army regulations. But Chappel said his injuries weren’t diagnosed by doctors until later.”

“This witness can’t get away with misrepresenting his conduct, his service, his valor — which I would argue is stolen valor in this matter — to these 15 people,” Ballard said of the jury.”

“Assistant Attorney General Bill Rollstin fired back, accusing Ballard of “besmirching this man’s integrity.”

“What’s (Ballard’s) point: He does or doesn’t have a Purple Heart so now you shouldn’t believe his testimony?” Rollstin asked.”

*Continue*

ninja

“Judge Thomas Wilson said Chappel would get an opportunity Friday to more fully explain his injuries to the jury.”

“Then I’ll allow you to ask him if he ever had the Purple Heart,” Wilson told Ballard.”

ninja

We have a HUGE problem what Ballard (a Marine) said.

“Ballard, a former Marine, said a Purple Heart for Chappel’s injuries should have
been automatic under Army regulations.”

THAT IS NOT TRUE. It is NOT AUTOMATIC under Army Reg.

“To receive the Purple Heart, the Army’s current regulations require that a soldier be injured by enemy action and receive documented treatment from a medical officer.”

We guess Forgin Frank will now hire Ballard as his attorney to get his “overdue” PH…

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610

5JC

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My opinion on Ballard and all the rest. It’s like a conspiracy of dunces on steroids.

rgr769

Ballard is a defense attorney, not someone involved in the Fan Belt Inspector fabricated “conspiracy.”

rgr769

Ninja, you picked the wrong lawer as an advocate for Forgin Frank. Ballard is the defense attorney wanting to know whether the undercover rat actually has combat injuries. If he doesn’t then he has committed perjury. No Purple Heart, no combat caused wounds or injuries. AAG Rollstin is the one opposed to letting the jury find out if this gov’t undercover witness is a liar.

rgr769

The reason for the documented treatment requirement is obvious. It is so that people who served in a combat zone don’t later fraudulently demand a PH for the back injury they sustained changing a tire on a truck or a road wheel on a tank. (See how I used that all inclusive pronoun to please the Alphabet people who use they and them)

SFC D

I want a purple heart for deteriorated discs, asthma, COPD, and two kinds of cancer. Cancel that, I want 5 PH’s, one for each malady. It’s only fair.

ninja

Remember Tim Poe and his “PH”?

“America’s Got Talent’ Contestant Timothy Poe Defends Afghanistan Injuries”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/timothy-poe-americas-got-talent-military-lie-335181/

“Stuttering country singer Timothy Poe is defending his military record following his controversial appearance on this week’s episode of America’s Got Talent.:

“Alleging to have served 14 years in the military, Poe told AGT judge Howie Mandel the emotional, reality TV-ready history of what led to his stutter: he’d been hit with a grenade in Afghanistan resulting in a broken back and brain injury, he claimed; meanwhile, photos he submitted from his tour of duty appeared onscreen, showing the 35-year-old father of two in fatigues with a gun.”

*Continue*

ninja

“Except that wasn’t him: as previously reported, Staff Sgt. Norman Bone came forward to call Poe’s foul and clarify that he’s the soldier shown in the photo, which was originally posted on the U.S. Department of Defense website.”

“Besides Bone, soldiers from Poe’s former army unit also say he is lying about his injuries.:

“It may not have happened exactly like I said it did,” Poe tells the New York Post. “I really do not remember a lot of things since the accident. I remember a blast going off by my head and being in Afghanistan and telling one of the sergeants. It is like a dream . . . I can’t remember things exactly how it happened.”

*Continue*

ninja

“According to an Army document from April 2011, supplied by Poe to the Post, he has an “injury or disease received in the line of duty as a direct result of armed conflict or caused by an instrumentality of war and incurred in the line of duty during a period of war.”

“But an Army spokesperson said he was stationed in Afghanistan for under a month and that his records are not complete.”

“On Wednesday, Poe confessed to lying about earning medals such as the Purple Heart; he also came clean about his story that he learned he could sing when a speech therapist advised him to try it to help his stutter.”

ninja

Speaking of Dr Phil and Liars:

https://www.drphil.com/shows/1919/

Another person with low self esteem and mental issues who lives in an Alternate Reality World.

Majority of these folks know they are embellishing or lying…and when caught, keep lying and lying to cover up their lies.

They actually believe in their own lies. When confronted with the truth, most oc them become silent or divert to another topic.

rgr769

Well, every week now there is at least one indication that Big Green has engaged in another atrocity or stupidity. The egregious conduct of these giant federal organizations never seems to cease or improve. Another federal agency that needs to be decapitated.

Roh-Dog

“Another federal agency that needs to be decapitated…”, run thru a woodchipper, remains cremated, and the ashes scattered to the four winds?

What the shit does GAO do again?

Skivvy Stacker

“…by now they are up to (drum roll please!) just over a half-million in recovered funds and fines.  They have spent $28,000,000 to accomplish this.”
No wonder it feels funny around my wallet all the time.

Roh-Dog

Look bud, ‘you didn’t build that [wallet]’!

We should be grateful that our beneficent gov let us keep what it do!

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5JC

Money well spent to ruin so many lives. That doesn’t come cheap you know.

JustALurkinAround

Not all heroes wear capes,

Some carry badges…

Many heartfelt thanks to these heroic and selfless agents who put their lives on the line to ferret out these scoundrels.

Due process is for losers

Roh-Dog

Honestly you had me until that last line.

Bravo!

Amateur Historian

Right, serve your country in good faith, get screwed later for no reason.

No wonder today’s military is having issues drawing in recruits. (Going woke is doing that by itself, but this’ll definitely not help the Army’s image)

RGR 4-78

90% of the U.S. population won’t ever know.
The other 09% won’t give a s#&t.

Thunderstixx

Liberals destroy everything they touch.
And they certainly have a lot of practice in the US Military…