Biden caves to Taliban, will stick to the August 31, 2021, troop withdrawal

| August 24, 2021

There was talk about the potential to continue evacuation operations beyond August 31, 2021. The Taliban warned that there would be “consequences” if the US military was not out by August 31, 2021. The Department of Defense looked to Joe Biden for the go-ahead to extend operations beyond that date. Joe Biden stayed firm with the August 31, 2021, pullout date.

From Fox News:

President Biden has decided not to extend an Aug. 31 deadline to remove all American troops from Afghanistan, a U.S. official tells Fox News’ Lucas Tomlinson.

The development comes shortly after a Taliban spokesperson — following a meeting between leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar and CIA Director William Burns in Kabul — said there will be “no extensions” to the Biden administration’s Aug. 31 date.

Defense Dept. Press Secretary John Kirby said Tuesday that the White House is still “aiming toward the end of the month” for a complete withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan.

The Pentagon also said the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan will go to “zero” at the Aug. 31 deadline.

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Category: "Teh Stoopid", "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", Afghanistan, Biden, Taliban

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Sapper3307

“ZERO” will that include DELTA/TEAM 6?

Mason

Do the Green Berets still have stay behind teams?

Sapper3307

The Army of Norther Virginia comes to mind.

Anonymous

Chuck Norris…

ChipNASA

I wish (wish in one hand and shit in the other…)
that Joe Biden Sr. would have shot Catherine Finnegan in the face…..or she would have swallowed or we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Kids those days….
😀

5JC

Now wait a second, that was the woman that taught Joe to stand up to bullies like Corn Pop and the Taliban.

ChipNASA

*snort* (NSFLunch)
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sgt. vaarkman 27-48thTFW

I think he was bullshitting, I think corn pop wanted to fight Joe and Joe ran away like the coward he is and hid behind his mama’s skirt in tears of fear, I still like to see him take on Trump behind the wood shed…I’d lay my money on he’s a no show….he’s all talk and can’t walk the walk

Fyrfighter

especially if it involves stairs…

Herbert J Messkit

He will leave (strand) thousands, and say they didn’t want to leave. He is a MONSTER.
The idiot class in this country elected a president with no moral code for life.

SFC D

No one is stranded in Afghanistan. Jen Psaki said so.

Mustang Major

Whew! Looks like I worried over nothing.

Hack Stone

A fine line between being stranded and being held hostage. Do we know the preferred personal pronouns of the Taliban leaders yet? Diversity is our strength, so we have been told.

Anonymous

Especially not these kids, not at all… ’cause everyone there now “wants” to stay or something, right?

“23 California Students Stuck in Afghanistan after Summer Trip,” by Emily Crane, New York Post, 25 Aug 2021
https://nypost.com/2021/08/25/23-california-students-stuck-in-afghanistan-after-summer-trip/

HMCS(FMF) ret

Anyone taking bets on how many American Citizens will be left behind on the 31st? How soon until the execution and jailing of foreigners after the last plane takes off?

What a fucking shitshow…

penguinman000

Dollars to donuts executions and jailings of foreigners have already begun.

We tucked tail and ran after Beruit. We tucked tail and ran after Mogadishu. Now we are not only tucking tail and running, we are abandoning US citizens and Afghan’s who worked with us.

The reverberations of this decision will be felt for decades.

KoB

Spot on Boys. All part of the “Plan”.

Wonder what the body count will be when they get done? Maybe we should just go ahead and start carpet bombing the Taliban positions around the airport…at 2359 hrs on the 30th.

This one’s on you prezzy sniffy. But then again, you’re just doing what you’re told to do…and say.

prezzy sniffy didn’t have asthma back yonder. His medical condition was no spine and a yellow belly.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

It’s going to make Benghazi look like child’s play.

Public executions will resume in sports stadiums, likely beginning on September 1st and wrapping up by the 11th.

Sparks

I have thought about this after hearing Biden and the Sec of State, and Sec of Defense, and the answer is “all who wanted to stay there”.

As soon as I heard that, I knew every American left behind will be written off as “they wanted to stay”.

Yea, right. They will be abandoned, taken hostage, and worse. If any are left alive, Biden will pay billions to the Taliban for their release, months and months down the road.

He has let the Taliban dictate to the USA what is going to happen. God help and save our citizens and troops.

Berliner

“Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told reporters on Tuesday they are keeping their August 31 deadline. Majahid also announced the Taliban will no longer allow Afghans to leave the country.”

Biden has left the room for his nap.

Anonymous

Yeah, they just need to get a shotgun and those Taliban will be quakin’ in their sandals…

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Hopefully Spec Ops are secretely working behind the scene to get the Americans out.

Green Thumb

Heard through the grapevine a lot of private fixer teams are making excursions in and out picking up folks that can pay.

Imagine they will take others if in the same extraction point, etc.

Slow Joe

I called Bullshit on this one.

Afghanistan is landlocked and far from friendly commercial air bases that can be used to extract people on the civilian side.

More wishful thinking.

Make everything in your power to defeat the Democrats in the next election if you really love America and what America as founded stands for.

Fantasy stories ain’t gonna help anybody.

Sapper3307

BLACKWATER alumni good $$$$$.

Green Thumb

My understanding is that it ain’t fantasy.

Money buys a lot of temporary friends.

Slow Joe

Pleez.

They ain’t going to do shit unless ordered to. Civilian control of the Armed Forces is a core value of this Constitutional Republic.

Stop with the wishful thinking. This is worst than Vietnam.

Elections have consequences, and at least half of the American people voted for Biden and his cohort of incompetents, because Trump was a mean tweeter.

AW1 Rod

Inept, bungling, appeasing cowards. You knew this was coming as soon as news of the CIA Director’s meeting with the Taliban was made public.

Anonymous

Hey, we didn’t need to keep Bagram or something either:
https://twitter.com/scuba2024/status/1431019669863927813

11B-Mailclerk

When 0bama/BidenBiden sent those pallets of cash to the mad mullahs, did anyone compare hand-receipts to see if maybe a pallet or two … diverted?

How much cash, say assets the former Afghan government, will be demanded for those who miss the last flight? And how much will be actually sent?

Nah, no one would ever do such an underhanded shitbag thing, say to add a billion to an agency/org/branch black ops fund, and several piles-o-cash to several personal “contingency funds” .

Right?

At what point is “incompetence” so over-the-top as to make “malice” the likely cause?

The Dead Man

Once is bad luck, twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. We’re well past three times by now historically speaking.

Berliner

TXNorsky

This absolutely pisses me off. Since when does the US capitulate to a bunch of goat herders (or worse.

Biden should, but wont, tell the Tallyban to go pound sand (literally) and we would leave as soon as we’ve evacuated all US personnel, interpreters, and friends and not one minute before. Oh and not to forget our equipment left there.

In fact, Jocko Willink says it best.

Green Thumb

Old Joe Biden,
Sitting in the can,
While his team proclaims he has the sand,
But they are unsure of the plan.

He watches the clock on the wall move its hand,
While holding his dick in his hand,
His tongue hanging out,
Flipping on and off the fart fan,
While still blaming the Orange Man.

Feel free to add at this point although I think I somewhat accurately summed up the endgame on this one.

Dustoff

I sure the original rapper, Ernest T, could add something to this.

ChipNASA

And yet, I believe ( “TXNorsky “) this is more like what the situation is really like on so many levels, interchangeably used.

E4 Mafia 83-87I

80 million…

Daisy Cutter

This all fits perfectly with China world domination.

* Don’t blame China for Coronavirus.
* Cancel pipeline in America, approve Russian pipeline. Less US dependence on gas/oil.
* US military forced to switch to established percentage of alternative fuels.
* Hunter Biden tapped to be special envoy to China.
* Push electric cars.
* Get out of Afghanistan so China can mine Lithium – to make batteries for said electric cars.
* China dictates how much Lithium the US gets.
* China controls minerals for production of solar panels.
* China calls in their loans to the US – crippling our economy.
* China sets limits on number of babies each household is allowed.
* China outlaws personally owned weapons.
* China outlaws the common fork – mandating chopsticks for all Americans.
* List goes on…

PTBH

This doesn’t seem like it is sustainable. “It” meaning to force people to stay in country as slave labor/brides and/or hold them as hostages for ransom money.

What doesn’t make sense is once the Taliban comes to full power, there will be an expectation of it to govern and provide basic human services – hospitals, electricity, food, commerce, etc. Hezbollah somewhat made a successful transition along these lines. When it did, it could no longer be associated with underhanded deeds such as terrorism, so had to pivot to being a legitimate army that provided security for its people.

The Taliban has got ‘rule-with-an-iron-fist-and-subjugate-the-population’ down, but I don’t think it is sustainable to force people to stay if they don’t want to. Perhaps as slaves, but there is the cultivation of strong resentment at that point. If you believe that you have a better society, then why force people to live in it.

They would have to treat doctors, nurses, plumbers and electricians with some dignity if they expect to provide basic human services.

This is why a regime like this is doomed to fail.

Even in a worse case scenario they kidnap Americans left in Afghanistan and behead them one by one if a ransom isn’t paid. A paid ransom that supports jihadist world-domination dreams. This upper hand is only temporary until they run out of hostages.

At some point they have to make a successful transition to taking care of their population. At this point, I don’t think they can see beyond the intoxication of having power. A business model may be to grow poppies for the opium trade as an aside, but basically host training camps for jihadists that are farmed out to perform proxy acts of terror for states that won’t put their name on these acts.

Mason

It’s only doomed to fail if the populace cares to overthrow it. I think the Afghan people have proven, with 20 years and billions of dollars of help, that they have no desire to live a democratic life in a free society. They want to have a feudal, tribal system with warlords dictating Sharia Law.

5JC

It worked last time. Like all other successful regimes you merely kill everyone who disagrees with you. They are going to make the Khmer Rouge look down right humanitarian.

SFC D

You must admit, that’s a very effective way to reduce voter dissatisfaction and increase your standing in the polls.

HMCS(FMF) ret

220 years ago, they called it “paying tribute” to the Barbary States… and it didn’t guarantee shit if you were taken hostage.

Skyjumper

I personally like former Navy SEAL Dan Crenshaw’s response to the Taliban was.

“By refusing to extend the self-imposed Aug 31st deadline, President Biden is potentially turning this disaster into something far worse. It could turn deadly for US citizens left behind. I don’t care what the Taliban says, fight for our people until the job is done,” he added in another tweet Monday.

“The only proper response from America to these dirty savage terrorists should be:

Go f*** yourself!”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dan-crenshaw-afghanistan-deadline-joe-biden-taliban

Anonymous

Yup, like ISIS/Taliban/etc. ever change:

A Proud Infidel®™

Our enemies mot only smell joe Biden’s weakness, they can taste it as well. As for me, I miss having cheap gas and a strong America, mean tweets or not!

5JC

But he said “grab them by the Hoo-ha” not sniff them in the hair. This is way worse. If a few Afghani’s go sky diving without a chute this is a small price to pay for a Summer of Freedom.

Herbert J Messkit

The Joes that are on the airport perimeter are probably seeing some real horror stories. I hope when they come back they sing it out loud and clear, and ignore any bullshit orders to keep quiet.

A Proud Infidel®™

Amen to that!

AW1Ed

sgt. vaarkman 27-48thTFW

I don’t get it ? we have the best air force in the world and naval aviation 2nd to none ? and yet we are not bombing the Taliban and all of the captured assets that brain dead Joe and his numb nut cohorts surrendered/left/gifted to the Taliban in “operation bugout”.
Why are we not using are cruise missiles, B-52’s, B1B’s,FA-18’s and B-2’s to drop JADAM’s and C-130’s with a couple of MOAB’s to turn those assets stupidly left behind like the Apache’s, Blackhawks, Tucano aircraft, before they figure out how to use them and the armored vehicles, advanced equipment and electronic crypt stuff, plus the airfields and for good measure those Taliban scum, just bomb the shit out of the place and turn it into dust, junk and showing them their 72 virgin bovines, we might as well get something for our tax money besides the democratic socialist people parties pork projects.
So chickenshit Joe the proven coward or is he just a girly boy named Josephine. This also goes for dumbass Austin, Obama’s affirmative action general now SoD and moron Milley the village people general whose more concerned with the non-existent KKK in the ranks instead of the mission of war fighting, 2 leaders whose career advancement was thru the “who you know and who you blow brigade”, these 2 are pox on our beloved military in which we all served honorably, both need to resign or do what Field Marshall Model did, if they have an ounce of any honor. yeah I’m pissed at all this buffoonery on all levels for the last 8 months

UpNorth

Like I mentioned a few days ago, I have yet to see any stories about a GO/FO resigning in disgust, or any GO/FO cashiered for speaking out about the shit show in Afghanistan. That speaks volumes about the leadership, or lack of it, of the military.

A Proud Infidel®™

DO WE HAVE ANY Real Leaders left, or is the five-sided Asylum chock full of high ranking Eunuchs who only look forward to their next promotion and a cushy high paying gig with some Defense Contractor?

MustangCryppie

I fully realize that I am dreaming a fantasy here, but an on-scene commander who steps up to the plate and kicks some serious Taliban ass and gets our people out would be a national hero. He would NEVER have to buy a beer ever again.

His career would be toast. The brass can’t have someone around who makes them look like cowardly pieces of shit, but there are other ways to make money.

What would Biden do? Not a damn thing except whine.

At least I can dream.

Anonymous

Hey, if the Taliban insist on going all “retro” on us, we should go full ‘Nam with ’em (which we hadn’t in order to minimize collateral damage so far) on the way out to make ’em think twice about punking us out over our deadline.
https://youtu.be/rrVqBqqq5AA?t=9

Anonymous

Here:

Anonymous

Take it from MSNBC:

Commissar

How is he caving? This is the treaty Trump signed.., and he should have been evacuating Afghan allies since March of last year.

Biden screwed this up but the more the facts come out the more this shit sandwich was Trump’s incompetence.

Trump refused to let SIV application be processed because he was listening to that fucking snake souled Stephen Miller.

You all celebrated the Treaty last year..,not you think Biden is weak for not violating it?

The treaty was bad. Terrible. He released 5000 Taliban AHEAD of the withdrawal so they were all ready and waiting when US withdrew.

Penguinman000

Speaking for myself, I have no problem leaving Afghanistan. Old school gun boat diplomacy should be applied. Tell the Taliban “here are your left and right lateral limits. Pass them at your own peril. “

I have no problem honoring Trump’s treaty, regardless of how shitty it may be.

What I do have a problem with is abandoning American citizens and Afghanis who worked with us. Then going to these animals and saying pretty please with sugar on top, may we get our citizens out?

To paraphrase a certain dem President, If Americans are in danger we go get them. America doesn’t desert our friends and allies.

If you can’t recognize the long term damage to the United States interests, and the immorality of abandonment, due to Biden’s handling of our withdrawal from Afghanistan I don’t know what to tell you.

I do know this. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I ever vote for a democrat again.

Blaster

They’ll soon walk across our Southern Border, with the weapons that we left for them. I’m sure the next attack on our homeland will somehow be Trump’s fault too.

Old tanker

How many citizens will be left behind when the protegee of the broward coward pulls the last of our troops out?

Daisy Cutter

LBJ: “We are not about to send American boys nine or ten thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qj6MVGuX8E

BIDEN: “It is wrong to order American troops to step up when Afghanistan’s own armed forces would not.”