James Grazioplene reduced from major general to second lieutenant
James J. Grazioplene in official Army photo taken in 1997. (Scott Davis/Army)
James Grazioplene pleaded guilty to charges, in a civilian court, for sexually assaulting his daughter while he was serving in the Army. The Secretary of Defense subsequently reduced Grazioplene’s rank from major general to second lieutenant. He will maintain his retirement benefits as if he retired as a second lieutenant.
From the Army Times:
Grazioplene, 71, started his military career with a commission at that same rank out of West Point in 1972. He rose to the rank of two-star general before retiring in 2005.
But his daughter, Jennifer Elmore, later brought allegations that through her entire childhood and at various posts both abroad and in the United States, her father had raped and molested her.
Army Times has a policy of not identifying by name survivors of sex crimes. Elmore agreed to be interviewed on multiple occasions and to be identified publicly in articles about Grazioplene.
The allegations were raised within the family in the years after she left home in the late 1980s, but came to the attention of military officials when Elmore reported the conduct to the Army CID agents at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, in 2015.
The Army Times has more on this here.
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that’s going to leave a mark…..
He should have to back pay the government. I’m willing to let him forego all pay and benefits until the debt is repaid.
weirdly, this doesn’t affect his actual retirement pay…his high 3 is unchanged.
Funny how that works…
The former general’s pension is under the final pay system I do believe.
Isn’t there something about highest rank you successfully served…this would be a case of him not successfully serving in any of those ranks. Did he also get prison time?…my work is blocking the Army Times website.
He first took an oath of office prior to 1980, so he comes under what is commonly called the “final pay” retirement system.
In short, his pension is based on:
2 1/2 % x
years of service x
the monthly base pay of highest grade ever held, even for single day.
(NOTE: “The highest grade ever held” need NOT be the final grade. More than a few Viet Nam Captains, Majors, and even LTC’s released during the reductions in force after 10 or more years of active duty in the early 1970’s, reverted to prior enlisted ranks / or enlisted, perhaps as SGT or SSG, to rack up 20 years of active duty. Their retirement pay was as a Captain / Major / LTC over 20 years).
My question would be:
Now that his departure rank is 2LT, does he have to give back the accouterments of a General Officer? the red flags, license plates, the .45 caliber pistol serially numbered and assigned to him?
In Vermont he had a E5 retire at 62.5, highest rank held was LTC, should be a nice retirement check.
No more reserved commissary parking spot. Now that hurts!
He is now a Convicted Felon on the Civilian side, thus he needs to kiss his .45 Pistol GOODBYE!
Nice Job, but I’m not satisfied.
Enlisted can get a BCD or DD but officers can’t.(?)
SO apparently Google answers this by saying (https://va.org/forms-of-military-discharge/)
BCD – Officers cannot receive this discharge.
Dismissal
When you are an officer you can be dismissed from military service. This discharge can be imposed by a special or general court and is often enforced alongside the maximum punishment as listed by the Manual for Courts Martial. It is an officer version of a bad conduct discharge. (OK)
Dishonorable Discharge
This type of discharge is the worst anyone in the military can receive. It can only be given by a general court-martial for the highest of offenses which are often accompanied by a prison sentence in a military prison. (Yes but this doesn’t say enlisted vice officer.)
What, besides the reduction in rank did Grab-azz-ophile receive?
I did go back and read the article and the military case shit the bed and then the civilians took over and he at least did some time in PMITAP.
So, he gets nothing but a change in his retirement benefits based on the civilian conviction to the last best satisfactory rank and then see ya?!?!?
and then he gets a “deal” and does like, a year and a half?
Well at least I can dream his 18 months wasn’t pleasant based on what I hear of the social hierarchy in jail.
I hope Bubba, Thor, Julio and “Tiny Tyrone” straightened his ass out in the showers!
From the link:
Then, on July 8, 2020, Grazioplene agreed to plead guilty to aggravated sexual battery and was given time served with a suspended sentence of 20 years.
The Boyz in Cell Block “D” didn’t get a chance to “straighten his ass out”.
OOhh, a SUSPENDED Sentence which means that even the least little fuckup could send him to the house where he could get what he deserves…
This prevert level of sh*t rates Dismissal.
What’s the retirement package for a butter bar with thirty three (33) years in service? Can he use the commissary, golf course and O-Club?
Should be an E1 with BCD, if retired…
Near as I can figure out, his new retired pay will be $351.53 per month./s
As it heard to be said: “Different spanks for different ranks”. Hope Grazioplene has a thoroughly entertaining visit with Young Blood Nino, King-Pookie and the rest of the Boys at the Grey Bar Hotel and whenever his end-time comes, he very slowly burns in hell. Oh and doom on Lars…
Should have chopped his dick off.
So you can rape your daughter and still be an officer. Makes one wonder.
Since he retired in 2005 and is over 70 now I think he won’t be coming back.
Didn’t read the article.
Call me a Crusty Curmudgeon Cynic.
I’ve heard/read enough Tales of Terror about a female getting pissed off at boyfriend/husband/uncle/father/etc male, and throwing sexual abuse accusations.
(Many Years?) Later, the female recants her accusation, but by then, it’s too late for the hapless male who was the target.
SO……did this REALLY happen? If so, Orificer Grazioplene deserves everything he’s gotten, and more.
If not, if it comes down to an unproven case of “he said, she said”, then I hope “Lt” G can find someplace to escape to live out his remaining years in “relative” peace, far from the madding crowd.
And I remain, the Crusty Curmudgeon Cynic.
If you had read the article you would have noticed that the key pieces of evidence were letters that the wife had written to relatives describing the General’s errr Second Lieutenant’s activities back when they were occurring 35 years ago.
Such evidence, produced decades later with corroboration from the victim, makes introduction of reasonable doubt quite difficult.
Tox, like you, I usually don’t put a whole lot into the whole she said/he said thing. If I wasn’t there and I didn’t see it, I rolled on. I have been a “victim” of false accusations from wimmins (2 occasions where I turned down their advances) and as a Father, cannot imagine any man molesting their daughter…or anyone else, but as we all know there are a lot of sick mofos out there. And as 5JC pointed out, I read the entire article, including the embedded link on her story, giving the additional info that pretty proved that this sick bastard did what she claimed and his wife covered/enabled him. IMO he got off way yonder too light. I gots an old, rusty, big toothed limbing saw we can use for the operation he needs to have performed.
In the other link, some of the comments were from people that served with this bastard, on various posts, world wide, and they were not very complimentary on him as a leader or a man. May the Barbed Cock of Satan PHUQUE HEEM while his soul burns for all eternity in the fires of Hell…and his wife too!
Now, about this “Crusty Curmudgeon Cynic” thing. Is that an addition to everything else we call you? Adding to your screen handle? A descriptive adjective? A type of dog that needs a bath? Can we friends of yours still call you Tox?
“CCC” is a descriptive adjective when I feel especially “GET OFF MY LAWN”. Otherwise, I remain “Tox”. Especially for “move, shoot & communicate” Gun Bunnies.
“his wife covered/enabled him”
And she is *still* married to him. I think they should be buried together—Now. She just couldn’t let go of that allotment check, I guess.
Did the wife who covered / enabled face any charges? Sure seems she should have. So much for the protective ‘momma bear” in that one..
Firing squad or hanging was in effect as a military punishment for rape at the time.
Word.
Fuck this guy.
Should have had his pecker stomped anyway for wearing a Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster on the NDSM instead of a 3/16 inch Bronze Service Star. That changeover (for the Army) had occurred about 15 years before that official 1997 picture was taken.
The Brotherhood weeps./s
I didn’t give the awards a look but now he seems kind of light for a 1 Star. If he did a successful battalion and brigade command I would expect more.
Claw and 5JC,
Did you get a look at his total ribbon rack?
NDSM x 3
Army Overseas Service x 3
War and Campaign medals = 0.
I believe the Army slang for this type of senior officer is
CHAIR BORNE RANGER.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Grazioplene
REMFIC
Just die you piece of shit! Hopefully of something painful.
Major Turd.
Fucking pedophile. And a father.
Need to take a page from the Russian version of UCMJ.
Bye.
Can’t say I agree with how lightly he got off for this. He should be spending at least 20 in Leavenworth AFAIAC.
The fact that he’s still allowed to draw even a cent in Retirement Pay makes me want to puke like a fire hydrant, but the fact that he still has a suspended sentence gives me hope that he still sees prison time!
James Joseph Grazioplene is registered as a Sex Offendercand is now a Texas resident living at 102 LIATRIS LN, GEORGETOWN TX (Public Information to include his picture:
https://www.nsopw.gov
Looks as if the house at the address was purchased in November 2020:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/102-Liatris-Ln-Georgetown-TX-78633/29608598_zpid/
He is on 20 years probation with supervision and has to report on an annual basis.
By the time his 20 years is up, he will be 91.
The irony of all of this is that he is a 1971 West Point Graduate…and that a 1975 West Point Graduate, Lloyd Austin, reduced him to an O1/2LT.
Hope a hippo sh*ts on his lawn: