ATF withdraws proposed guidance on AR-pistol braces

| December 24, 2020


An AR with a stabilizing arm brace is a pistol. Or is it a Short Barreled Rifle?

No, its a pistol

SBR, dammit!

I’d make the argument that it’s both. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Really Big Explosions has found other things to fuss over. Wonder why?

AW1 Rod sends.
RYAN MORGAN

On Wednesday night the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) withdrew a proposed guidance that would have reclassified millions of AR-15 style pistols and other weapons with braces that stabilize a user’s wrist when firing, to short-barreled rifles, which are much more heavily regulated.

The guidance, posted on the Federal Register on Dec. 18, would have reconsidered pistols with stabilizing braces to be “short-barreled rifles” which are a controlled class of weapon under the National Firearms Act. The change would have required gun owners to either turn in their firearms or register their pistols as NFA firearms and pay a $200 tax stamp if the weapon is accepted. Failure to comply would have made the owners of previously legal pistols felons under the NFA.

The proposed ATF guidance would have required millions of gun owners to either turn in their guns or register them with the government…

Or become felons. I don’t suppose the certainty of overwhelming negative reactions from millions of citizens had anything to do with the BATF’s sea change. Read the entire article here: American Military News
Thanks, Rod.

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MustangCryppie

ATF just trying to show Pevo Joe that they’re ready to play ball.

Anonymous

Gun-grabbers, like vampires, hate being exposed to sunlight.

11B-Mailclerk

If -these- pistols are NFA, then -those- pistols are NFA next.

Ever wonder why the NFA specified barrel lengths? Because handguns were originally on the NFA legislation, and they wanted to ensure no “do it yourself” evasion of this blatantly unconstitutional act.

And remember that the $200 tax was ten or twenty times the cost of the average handgun. Rich and powerful folks had no problem with stamp collecting as needed.

Oddly, Miller appeared before his SCOTUS appearance. Hmmm. So no one argued the blatantly obvious that s short-barreled shotgun had high utility in combat, thus in a millitia, thus obviously protected.

Hmm. I note that lists, short shotguns, short rifles, and full auto weapons have high military utility, and are all commonly used. Thus any militia would find great utility in these arms.

Not that “militia” is required. That is in the dependant clause. The independent clause says “shall not be infringed”.

The tyrants never rest in the effort to remove any meaningful rights of individual to keep and bear effective arms, ones suitable to protecting life, liberty, and property,

from tyrants and fools.

11B-Mailclerk

“I note that -pistols-, ”

It’s a conspiracy of auto-corrupt!

Hm. Maybe not. My gadget changed the “auto-correct” I typed to “auto-corrupt”.

I am giving my gadget my habits. Uh oh…

Docduracoat

President Trump set an awful precedent when he ordered the ATF to ban bumpstocks.
That only turned A few hundred thousand citizens into felons.
And the NRA was glad to throw them under the bus.
Its plain that all the workarounds of the NFA will be banned by the Biden/Harris administration.
Mark my words, binary triggers are next!

11B-Mailclerk

Drawback: sooner or later, the equivalent of Miller 2.0 hits SCOTUS. If that hits the current roster, there is a very good chance the NFA gets heavily modified or tossed.

For example, SCOTUS might rule that the tax is OK, but the registry must be open to all for 14th Amendment reasons or 2nd or both. Or that the tax is an unconstitutional poll tax and funny-gun registration must be open and untaxed.

Assuming the litigant doesn’t again mysteriously skip.

Sapper3307

Any 5.56/9mm under the tree today?

NHSparky

What color unicorn did you want?

Sapper3307

Black tip M995.

OWB

Aw, come on, man. Just call them “rifstols” and you get to write a whole new set of regs.

Anonymous

“assault pistols”? They can have the “chainsaw bayonet,” too.

OWB

Is it wrong to covet a .22 cal chainsaw bayonet??

Roh-Dog

So many deaths from plastic triangles with straps that fit on tubez….
Y’all are monsters.
I hope the Soup Bois neutratacticalize all yo’ dawgs.
$200 to SBR your shit, so the BATFEKY69 can track it down when said SBR goes off the rails and hurts someone IS the price of freedoms, my guy!

Ex-PH2

Explosives? I once knew a guy who claimed his gas exhalations were explosive and tried to prove it by lighting a match when he ejected methane from his posterior.

Problem is, he forgot to shut off the valve that lets that gas escape.

Anonymous

Talk about blowin’ one’s ass off.

KoB

And so it begins…or should we say…so it continues.

“Get ready Little Lady…”