Robert E. Lee Statue Gets Makeover

| June 14, 2020

In a recent article posted by CNN, they bring light to the fact that the General Robert E. Lee monument in Richmond, Virginia recently got a makeover in support of BLM and support of black LGBTQ+ rights.

As a side note: I wonder if someone that is LGBTQ+ is caught saying “All LGBTQ+ rights” would be accused of being homophobic or whatever phobia applies?

Statue of Robert E. Lee gets a makeover with Pride Flag and ‘BLM’ sign

(CNN)Activists in Richmond, Virginia, projected the image of a pride flag and ‘BLM’ on a Confederate statue there Friday night in support of black LGBTQ+ rights.

The statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee has been the site of many protests since the death of George Floyd and is the same one currently in legal limbo after the governor’s order to remove it was met with a lawsuit.

After multiple protests, the statue has been covered in multicolor spray paint with phrases like “Black Lives Matter” and “Stop White Supremacy.”

Earlier this month, Gov. Ralph Northam announced he would remove the statue honoring the Confederate general, calling it “wrong” during a news conference.

His effort has currently been stalled by a county circuit judge.

The Lee statue is the largest of several monuments on Monument Avenue in Richmond that honor Virginian Confederate veterans of the Civil War

The Stone Mountain granite carving, a mere stone’s throw from CNN, is the largest obstacle to tackle for this movement.   But is it?
What’s the next logical step?   Renaming Washington D.C.?   Renaming Washington state?I have to say I have always found it oddly fascinating to observe first hand the South’s affection toward its Confederate generals but I don’t give it any thought beyond that.  I have been saying for a while that if monuments continue to be torn down in the name of this country’s past sins with slavery, the next thing I predict will be heterosexual monuments – which could to some represent oppression.

We’ve already got a USS Harvey Milk, so the trend has already been established.  I’m not necessarily down on this trend, but I don’t think things should be driven by “whoever speaks the loudest is the most right.”  There is a silent percentage of people that are fair-minded and will give people a wide path if they honestly feel disrespected, but there comes a point where they then feel disrespected.

Coming back to the South, the Confederacy and the monuments – former Congressman Lieutenant Colonel Allen West had some excellent perspective about the focus being on the wrong thing.

Lt. Col. Allen West on desecration of Confederate monuments: ‘History is not there for you to like or dislike’

West explained that as a young officer in the U.S. Army he had served at places like Fort Bragg — named after Confederate General Braxton Bragg — and commanded a battalion at Fort Hood in Texas which was named after Confederate General John Bell Hood.

“I did not think about them as Confederate generals. I thought about the honor of being able to serve on those military installations,” he remarked.

“And, one of the things that has me absolutely incensed right now is the fact that you had these individuals [who] went up and defaced the monument, the memorial to the 54th Massachusetts regiment there in Boston,” added West.

Renaming bases will not come cheap.  There are signs, logos, reading and marketing materials, manuals, etc. that come with the change.

In my opinion, an in-depth understanding of history is very similar if not complimentary to an in-depth understanding of the biology, chemistry, and physics of the world around you.  Heck, people obtain PhDs in these fields and admit they don’t know everything.  I doubt that many of them are out there among the crowds.

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”

— Bertrand Russell —

The following goes for any heated debate about issues over the years and not necessarily this one…

I don’t mean to suggest that people out there expressing their First Amendment rights and conducting legitimate, peaceful protests are fools but it does frighten me that people with very little conceptual understanding of an issue tend to be less calm than someone that has spent the time acquiring a vast foundation of facts that contribute to their position on a certain subject.

“Tend to be less calm” may be expressing this lightly – they tend to be passionate and somewhat intimidating.  Don’t believe me?   Try saying “All Lives Matter” or “All LGBTQ+ rights” right now.  Your job may be at stake.  Not because you have a point, but because you dare to suggest something that deviates from the current narrative.  This is bullying in my opinion and goes against the nation we stand for.

If this is allowed to continue – I often ask people if they truly want the kind of “respect” that comes with people fearing you and are intimidated by you?  Many don’t care and their knee jerk reaction is “yes, no question about it.”  In my opinion, the more lucrative form of “respect” comes from earning it over time and having people see you make decisions under difficult circumstances.  They see your bravery, they see your fairness.

That latter kind of respect takes a lot of time and can only be seen in unique circumstances.  Others would rather take a shortcut.

By the way – Happy Flag Day!



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Still waiting to hear the demands that all the Robert C. Byrd Bird this and thats in West Virginia be renamed…


Yeah… Byrd, not Bird. Byrd is the word.



I believe in speaking softly. I hide the big stck until necessary. The yammering ninnies in the streets want control but have absolutely no idea of what it takes to make or do something.


Certain last names are hereby declared illegal: Washington, Jefferson, Jackson. Towns, cities, counties, states, streets, colleges and universities so named will be renamed. In addition to Confederate leaders, names of Northern financial institutions that financed Southern slave owners will be publicly announced, and applicable actions taken. Etc. and etc. Some publications have a head start, in capitalizing Black, but lower-casing white.

A Proud Infidel®™️

The more they screech their bullshit, the bigger the backlash they’ll see in November, keep it up, snowflakes!!!


Malcolm X said voting Democrat was for chumps.

Dr. King was a Republican. So was Harriet Tubman.

Combat Historian

And so was Frederick Douglass…

Comm Center Rat

It’s unfortunate that we even have to say ‘Black Lives Matter’
I mean, if you go through history nobody ever gave a fuck
I mean, you can kill black people in the street
Nobody goes to jail, nobody goes to prison
But when I say ‘Black Lives Matter’ and you say ‘All Lives Matter’
That’s like if I was to say ‘Gay Lives Matter’
And you say ‘All Lives Matter’
If I said, ‘Women’s Lives Matter’ and you say ‘All Lives Matter’
You’re diluting what I’m saying
You’re diluting the issue
The issue isn’t about everybody, it’s about black lives, at the moment
But the truth of the matter is, they don’t really give a fuck about anybody
If you break this shit all the way down to the low fucking dirty-ass truth

NO LIVES MATTER by Body Count (2017)

5th/77th FA

Sickening. The pure unadulterated ignorance of some people. And,even worse, the passive acceptance and encouragement of others allowing their ignorance. This is just the beginning. They’ll be coming for the other pieces of our history next. The more you try to placate spoiled brats, the more they want to get away with.

Bobby Lee’s tactics are still taught on the sand tables. His morals and dedication to duty are still held up as examples that every Officer and Soldier should emulate. His actions in May of 1863 handed a much numerically superior army its ass and came very close to ending the war and putting history on a different past. That same general plan was used in 1991 to help defeat Saddam Hussein.

Bobby Lee was never really decisively beaten by an opposing commander on the battlefield with the ANV Troops. His men were just slap worn down by the fight. Of the 20 some odd thousand that still stood under the Colors at Appomattox Court House, only about 8K were carrying a rifle and ready to continue the fight. Most of those were Georgians under Gnrl John B. Gordon. Lee did more to “bind up the Nation’s wounds” than anyone else by surrendering his Army and telling the men to go home and become good citizens.

spapos seagull showing up to spew his vulgar, hate filled drivel in


He got whooped fair n square at Gettysburg.

Might have been his only bad week of the whole war.

5th/77th FA

Semi right 11B, but not so much by Meade as by the failures of some of his Commanders, most notably Ewell. And Stuart, by his absence. Tho Bobby Lee took all the blame, there was a lot to spread around, including Hood and Longstreet. Iverson and others that either didn’t or couldn’t do what was needed to be done.

The true saviors of the FIRST day, which influenced the next 2 days would be Buford’s Troops for standing fast, Reynolds for seeing what was happening and then putting Hancock to work before Reynolds was killed, and most importantly, Joshua Chamberlain and the 20th Maine holding the line at Devils Den/Little Round Top.

Where Meade really screwed up was not following up immediately and assaulting what was left of Lee’s Army and/or pursuing them Johnny Rebs when they started to pull back to Ol’ Virginny. Having 150 cannons still lined up hub to hub had a little to do with that, and then being told to dispatch troops to Noo Yawk City to control the draft riots became a distraction. The War could have been over by July 5th. If Tom Jackson had of been there it would have been over on July 2nd, with a different result.

Just Lurkin

Lee should never have sent his men against a very strong Union position at Malvern Hill and Jackson had to talk him out of trying to go on the offensive after Antietam, add those mistakes to the third day at Gettysburg and you can see that he was often too aggressive. He was fortunate with regard to who the Union had in command in the east until Grant took overall command of all Union armies, but after that Sam Grant just pressed forward and wore down the ANV. Once Fort Fisher fell it was all over, but that was the fault of Jeff Davis for placing far too much confidence in Braxton Bragg.

5th/77th FA

^Word^ Lee had the utmost of confidence in his men. He fornicated Fido by trusting too much in subordinate Commanders. Again, then like now, politics in BOTH Armies, added to the civilian politicians BS created all kinds of issues. Bragg was an egotistical fool, hated by his men, but had Davis conned due to their relationship going back to the Mexican War. Davis meddling in military matters was a major problem, but nobody could confuse him with the facts, cause his mind was made up. Davis was also despised by many of the State Governors which brought that whole “States Rights” v “What’s best for the Country” thing into play. NC Gov Vance had enough supplies in his warehouse to keep the ANV supplied for a good while and wouldn’t turn loose of it. The list goes on.

If Davis had of listened to Jackson at FIRST Manassas (Bull Run) and given Jackson a fresh Brigade, Jackson coulda captured DC very handily and it woulda been all over then.

At the end of the day, we and the world as a whole are better off that the United States remained a United States. Didn’t do the Native Americans much good, kept the Germans from dominating most of Europe, twice, kicked the Japanese out of the Pacific and kept the Soviet Union AND the Chinese Communists from their goals of world domination. And over the last 30 years helped keep the terrorists somewhat in check. Maybe all of that is why the world, and George Soros hate us so much.

No matter the politics of a war, one still needs to pay proper respects to the Honorable Warriors of a War. You may use the skull of your enemy to hold the mead as you drink a toast to his Valor. Just my humble opinion. YMMV


Well, the fun has spread beyond our shores…



You know, removing these statues does not erase the history of what these people did or did not do. It is a childish response to reality where a 3-year-old sticks a fist in one eye and squalls and squawks for the sole purpose of getting attention.

If these spoiled brats can’t handle the truth, then be damned to them!

Here’s a tantrum perfected.


OT: Today is the U.S. Army’s 245th birthday. The senior service! Eh, it’s Donald Trump’s birthday too – he turned 74.

James R N

If we want to rename Military Bases, lets start with searching the VietNam wall for military personnel with the same surnames as the Confederate ones. I quickly found SSgt William D Benning KIA 11 May 1965. There are two soldiers and a marine surnamed Bragg. There are over 20 VietNam KIA surnamed Gordon. I haven’t counted the Lees yet.

I edited your comment to protect your PII. To see why hit the Valor Vultures tab at the top of the page and scroll to my PSA.

James R N