The unbearable lightness of being Paul K. Wickre: The Neverending Story
When last we left you in the saga of Paul K. Wickre, he had graduated to leaving threatening voicemails, emails and comments. In fact, Blackfive had picked up on what was happening to us, and tried to give it some publicity. It worked, and they made Paul’s naughty list. Here was the voicemail Paul left on my work machine at the time threatening Blackfive.
Yes, I also laughed at “I’m trying to be reasonable.” Because nothing says “reasonable” like comments such as:
spEAKING AS YOU DO, YOU DESERVE THE WORST. i HAVE 30& OF YOUR ADDRESSES, dONT BE SURPRISED MY THE NEWSPAPERS.
yOU SLIMY FUCKING CUNTS. yOU ARE THE WORST AS TO ADDRESS ME. i WILL FIND YOU.
Having failed in that regard, Paul and his wife Karen decided to file “peace orders” against Jonn. Now, a peace order is a civil hearing wherein basically you have a hearing and if the judge decides to put a “do not contact” order in place he does. It seemed like an unlikely approach as a foray into the legal system, but Paul was attempting an end-around. He added into the claims that he not only wanted “do not contact” orders, but also the blog taken down entirely. (Also he wanted Jonn’s guns taken away, something the hearing didn’t have the power to grant.) I’m really unclear how he thought that would work, but that’s what he asked for. Now, since I was not a named person on that hearing, and because it was never going to work, I decided that it just wasn’t in my best interest to drive halfway across the country for the hearing, especially when my lawyer said he wouldn’t call me to the stand.
And then I came into work to this voicemail from Paul:
(Pay attention to the Google thing, I will be back to that in a minute.)
Anyway, that voicemail sounded an awful like trying to convince me not to come and testify. It sounded like a bully trying to keep me away from the trial. It sounded that way to a lot of other folks as well, including lawyers I consulted who are not on my legal team. So, I got in my car and drove 12 hours to the hearing. (I drive slow.)
After an interminable wait while a series of women were granted peace orders against men who allegedly threatened or beat them (seemed to me that several were bogus sounding) we finally were transferred to our own courtroom with our own judge. Again, the peace orders were by both Paul and Karen separately against Jonn. Our lawyer was there, and Wickre had two lawyers, his civil one and his criminal one. There was also a guy there to watch, who told me later that he had worked with Paul previously and said he’d been a lunatic since he had met him some six years earlier.
Wickre had literally boxes of stuff. The judge took one look at the boxes and said “I really hope that isn’t all for this hearing.” It was probably print outs of every post we’ve written. And they probably would have introduced it into evidence if they got a chance, but the judge limited our case to four hours right off the bat. And he said that the case was so interesting they could do law school classes on it.
Right off the bat though, it went…..interesting. Wickre’s legal team started by dropping all of Paul Wickre’s claims, stating that he was aware that Mr. Wickre was under investigation for various criminal issues. Those were the result of the criminal investigation not only for threats against Jonn and myself, but also my lawyer. About this time three other folks came in on a rotating basis, detectives and bailiffs. They would eventually play a role in the activities that day.
So now it was just Karen Williams (Wickre) against Jonn. The next interesting development was Wickre’s attorney calling me as a witness. My lawyer in turn called Wickre as our witness. So, out into the hall go Wickre and me. Obviously in an attempt (unneeded, but welcome) to keep us from each other, the Montgomery County detective in charge of our cases also came out to maintain the peace. We discussed the Revolutionary War, and specifically his expertise as a brewer of beer from that period. Great guy. A former Marine, and honestly I think a credit to his PD.
When I finally got called in, Wickre’s lawyer started questioning me. His criminal lawyer is really sharp, but he really didn’t understand blogs very well. He didn’t know the difference between bloggers and commenters, didn’t know the difference between a blog post and comments, and really didn’t understand how the interaction works. From his questioning it was clear that they were trying to pin some of the comments on Jonn and I. Most of his questions dealt with our control and editorial process with regards to comments. Stated bluntly: unless you threaten someone, use racial epithets, or put up personal info, we don’t edit our comments. We occasionally block commenters, but never for disagreeing with us, only for cutting/pasting the same nonsense 100 times. The only commenter we’ve banned for reasons other than that was Wickre, and we did so at the behest of his civil lawyer.
Pretty much no harm no foul on any of that. He probably never should have called me, not because I am a good person on the stand, but it allowed my lawyer to just have a field day with asking me to read quotes from Wickre. The judge would later refer to Wickre as “crazy as a June bug” and lamented that Mrs. Wickre would have to deal with him from here out.
After I testified Mrs. Wicke (or Williams I guess more accurately) took the stand and testified. She cried and talked about all the “horrible” things she had read, and then cried some more. She claimed she had never read ANY of the emails Paul had sent to us, including various ones wherein Paul told her to marshal her forces on Capitol Hill to have me fired from my day job. She also testified that Paul had put one of Jonn’s two calls with Wickre on speaker phone, and she claimed she overheard Jonn say he would “kill Paul with a pickaxe.” Naturally Jonn has no memory of this, but so it goes. She shed some more tears, some more statements about how she and Paul were innocent victims, and my lawyer had clearly heard enough of her hysterics and basically let her stand down.
Then Paul got called by our lawyer. He took the stand, gave his name, and then promptly refused to say anything else on account of being investigated for potential criminal issues. Jonn got up and said his piece and that was it.
The judge wasn’t having any of Paul’s attempt to circumvent the First Amendment via a civil “peace order” hearing. There was no way that was happening. So, by any measure of the hearing, they lost. The end result was a peace order granted for Mrs Wickre, but only insofar as Jonn contacting her or her Congressional Office, a result Jonn conceded was fine through our lawyer at the beginning of the hearing. So that was fine with Jonn either way. Note that this does not in any way limit my interactions. Which is why I’ll be filing a FOIA shortly with the House of Representatives to get copies of all emails about TAH, myself, and Jonn with regards to everything that has happened. She claims she never read any of those emails, so it should just be copies of what I already have. Unless of course she really did read and respond to Wickre on those emails, in which case she would have perjured herself. Will let you know when I get those back, but we’ve added to our legal team one of the best FOIA guys in the country. It’s a name that EVERYONE will know, or at least ought to know.
Meanwhile, as the peace order was being ruled on, Paul Wickre was taken into custody by the State of Maryland. They came in, put him in cuffs, and led him out. And then they walked him down the longest hall I’ve ever seen. I was humming the Dr Bruce Banner theme from the Hulk as they led him away, and I had to do it like 20 times. Alas, a bailiff wouldn’t let me take a picture of it.
So, Paul said I would be arrested and led away in cuffs on his voicemail. But, it wasn’t me that that happened to. He promptly bailed out, but it was incredibly cathartic to see him led away.
A few weeks later (mid-November) I received a subpoena for my electronic harassment complaint against Wickre. I talked to some young paralegal who wanted all the evidence from me. Now, bear in mind that they already had access to all of this, including comments Paul had left on the blog. But every time our legal team talked to the detective, we asked them to seize Paul’s computers. The detective was stymied every time he tried to do so. (note the foreshadowing.) The trial was set for December 5.
It is perhaps instructive if we look at the actual elements of the charge, just so you can see how easy a slam-dunk this was. Under Maryland code 3.803 and 3.805:,
§ 3-803. Harassment
(a) Prohibited. — A person may not follow another in or about a public place or maliciously engage in a course of conduct that alarms or seriously annoys the other:(1) with the intent to harass, alarm, or annoy the other;
(2) after receiving a reasonable warning or request to stop by or on behalf of the other; and
(3) without a legal purpose.
§ 3-805. Misuse of electronic communication or interactive computer service.
(b) Prohibited. —
(1) A person may not maliciously engage in a course of conduct, through the use of electronic communication, that alarms or seriously annoys another:
(i) with the intent to harass, alarm, or annoy the other;
(ii) after receiving a reasonable warning or request to stop by or on behalf of the other; and
(iii) without a legal purpose.
Now, all you need to really prove then is that the person sent harassing emails after being told to stop, and that he had no legal defense or legitimate purpose for having done so. On no fewer than 10 occasions I told him to stop contacting me. I have all those emails. At one point he claimed to be representing himself pro se, and thus his communications to be were mandated by his being his own lawyer. Yeah, no.
So, it was an absolute slam dunk. No way that Montgomery County Assistant State’s Attorney Keith Jacobson (the prosecutor evaluating my claim and our lawyer’s claim for electronic harassment) could screw it up. And so….of course they dropped the charges.
Lest I lose my mind here, I’ll let my lawyer lay out what happened per his conversations with Mr. Jacobson. (Note that when I talked to the prosecutor he gave me a different reason, and then hung up when I said I looked forward to disclosing how I had been treated by him personally and the State of Maryland.) As our lawyer describes:
It appeared from my first interaction with Mr. Jacobson that he had little interest in pursuing the electronic harassment claims. I have dealt with prosecutors at the federal and other levels, and this was the first time one impressed me as appearing to be anti-victim and pro-accused from our very first conversation. He showed little interest in relaying information to or meeting with the victims/complainants (one of whom was me), showed little interest in explaining the situation or process to the victims/complainants, and seemed to be hostile to the idea that a citizen/victim living in his jurisdiction was questioning him about how he was dealing with a criminal complaint. When I asked him what the purpose of the electronic harassment statute was, he told me to “go ask the General Assembly.” When I asked him what, if anything, might qualify as electronic harassment in Maryland, he refused to give an answer. When I asked him what the problem was with the cases, he told me “insufficient evidence,” but would give no more substantive answer. It was very surprising to me that Mr. Jacobson was not willing to let a judge or jury address the merits of our complaints.
So, does that mean it is over? Not even close. Criminal action against Paul is still possible in Indiana and West Virginia. We’re also still talking to the FBI because of the nature of the threats (use of explosives, sawed off shotgun, and hiring hitmen to come and get me.) Additionally, we have a civil suit about to drop against Paul and a few others related to this.
For his part, Wickre has gone back to leaving insane comments on the blog. Including one in which he taunted Jonn for having ALS, and another wherein he said we are all losers in society:
At the end of the day, little Lilyea lives in an inconsequential state, on a dead end cul de sac with three neighbors, in a yellow brick rancher, on $1400 a month of government payments and $300 a month of Google Ad revenue. Inherently poor, with ill health and a finite lifespan with a fatal disease, he spends the last of his days, lashing out at his betters, attacking strangers in twisted thoughts, bent over his PC.
And:
Apparnetly most of you were in the military service, but the lower ranks. Most not college eduacted. Most were trapped by early decisions in life. Collectively, the same as blue collar trades as truck drivers, waitresses, “engineers/janitors in buildings, propane gas route drivers, maybe nurses, own your own business in tree cutting,elevator repairmen, orderlies in hospitals, you know how to operate a truck or a lift truck.
Washed out of society, you have your 10-20 years in for a $1000 pension. WIthout doubt, all your writings have exposed you for what you are…
Now, going back to the Google thing. Wickre keeps claiming in various places that we are somehow doing something illegal to manipulate the Google results. We still have no idea what he is talking about with regards to “Google algorithm manipulation.” But we do know why when you Google “Paul Wickre” the top 4 links take you to This Ain’t Hell. And why #5 is a story about him defending a coworker who took naked pictures of his girlfriend and then mailed them to her. And why the top video from that google is one of the messages left by Paul. It seems someone HAS been Google bombing “Paul Wickre” by searching that name and coming to This Ain’t Hell.
And who was that person? Why, Paul Wickre of course. We haven’t disclosed this previously, but EVERY SINGLE VISIT by Paul was done by first Googling his name, and then coming to us. In fact, our Get Clicky was monitoring every visit by Paul. And every single time he would get here by Googling his own name. Recall that this was the technological genius who knew everything. TAH is your best source for all things Paul according to Google, and it became that way because of Paul himself.
ONE QUICK NOTE: Everything you guys comment on gets read. And Jonn and I have to answer for it, despite the fact we have no control in the marketplace of ideas that is TAH. I’m not telling you what to write, or what not to write. But if you actually care how this turns out, consider the implications of your comment before you hit submit. To be honest, a couple of comments were so over the top that I hated even trying to have to respond to them when challenged in court. And as Jonn will tell you, he and I even disagree on each others comments from time to time. I’m just asking you guys to think before you drink comment. Sooner or later Jonn and I will be in front of a jury, and having to respond to some jackass thing a commenter said won’t help us if it is insane, perverse or threatening. Granted legally speaking we aren’t accountable for what you write, but a jury might not understand the distinction.
Category: Shitbags
@97: That’s the model I have – the Selectric III Correcting! I also have a “portable” model (it weighs about 25 pounds and comes in its own factory denim carrying case – I guess this is an early iteration of the laptop concept) that looks like a Selectric II on a short carriage, and takes the older style ribbons. The S/III has a slight problem with its return that means the first couple letters slip slide, and the “portable” has a broken platen wire, so if I must needs use a typewriter, I reach for the Wheelwriter we found years ago for $5 in a thrift store. I have tons of ribbons and elements for all three. Such a geek, I know.
You have made my Christmas. I was feeling down because we have to move out of our CHU’s and into Transient tents for a Christmas gift… But this, this just perked me right back up.
Paul K. Wickre your the only person here that has ever threaten anyone. I do believe you even said you have a list of people to cause harm rape torture I do recall something about shotgun blast to there faces. I sure hope the judicial system gives u what you deserve nut job . I hope that the state gets you the mental help you despritly need u loser …
yes the list was mainly towards the ladies that was not submissive towards his demands of washing mouths out with soap ..
Good thing phil.monkress is proud of his right hand man… lol right hand….hahaha
Two things:
1. I am devastated to learn that Wickre is pronounced “wick-ree”. All of the jokes about mentally deficient patio furniture that I have been saving up are now ruined.
2. It is a travesty that TSO was not allowed to film Wickre’s perp walk. Having that footage with the Hulk music dubbed over it and a smash cut to Iron Eyes Cody crying at the end would have been Oscar worthy. It would have been an artsy way to express the emotions that any fake Indian who may be involved with Wickre would have felt at that time.
Wait. You’re not college “eduacted?” Say it isn’t so!
In all seriousness, I’m sorry you are dealing with this and that your case landed on the desk of a lazy prosecutor.
@104, you still have the option of pronouncing it ‘wicker’ as in the wickre man, pickwickre peckrewood, wickrebill, etc. The possibilities for relationships to porch furniture and baskets are endless. Go for it. I never let someone else’s inhibitions stop me.
I do wish that someone had filmed that frogwalk, too. Maybe there’s a security camera video that could be ‘borrowed’ for future use. I only want to know if psulie-o the uncoolie-o was weeping as he walked that final mile. 😉
It looks like a long, cold, lonely winter for someone out there in MDland. I understand that his source of revenue may be down to a trickle or maybe even nearly gone.
I may be slow…so what did Psul get arrested for?
@107 Electronic Harrasment.
@96; Not so sure I want to read book two anymore after that comment. 🙂
@ 96. EX-PH2 … I love it when you talk dirty to us!
Twist and Master Chief, it’s for a completely different book… one with romance, warfare, unedurably evil beings, missing people, revenge — all that stuff that makes some of us wish for those days when, as my grandfather used to say, when ‘men were men and women were glad of it’.
Besides, it’s been five years since I dumped Bill the Idiot. A girl’s got to have something going on.
Besides, Twist, your significant other will like that part and want you to read it with her.
@ 111. Chubby time!
My only complaint is that if there’s going to be “Unbearable Lightness” of anything, it should include a younger, nude Juliette Binoche.
The title to this post has got a song stuck in my head. I must share it to get rid of it.
You’re Welcome.
@ 114 … that was not right. In fact it was wrong!
Here is a better one … becuase we LOVE HIM so much!
Goodness! I do love watching the eduacted interweb legal eagles getting smacked down.
Lolz this is exactly why I love you guys!!
Want to help Jonn and TSO? Start clicking on some links here at TAH. Get that mouse going. Christmas is coming up soon, you might find something to give to that person on your list who you find tough to buy for.
Hitting the “donate” button wouldn’t be a bad idea, either.
@114, you are an evil person. I once had this stuck in my head for an entire JRTC rotation.
Keep it up…..need donations huh, its gonna get worse, you’ll be beggin for change soon in a coffee pot, lawsuits get expensive assholes
My last comment must have been eaten with the spam.
@120–ya know, I don’t think I’ve ever been asked for money to support the website from Jonn, TSO, or anyone else for that matter.
What was said upthread was asking us to click the links. Now while I’m not privy to the legal costs, given the fact that TSO is a member of the bar in good standing where he lives, and that several other lawyers are chipping in their services, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that the lawsuits Psulie-boi is pushing cost HIM a lot more than they’ll ever cost Jonn or TSO.
Or would you like me to write it backwards on my hand and bitchslap ya a few times so it sinks in?
Never mind, #119 was me.
“Keep it up … need donations huh, its gonna get worse, you’ll be beggin for change soon in a coffee pot, lawsuits get expensive assholes”
So of course … I focus in one “its gonna get worse”.
@ 120 … Care to expand on your comment “its gonna get worse” … well do you?
Of course he doesn’t, Master Chief. If he did, he wouldn’t have hidden behind Tor to post.
And a few of our other “friends” have shown up to flap their cocksuckers, but found their commentary unwelcome.
Sucks for them, doesn’t it?
120 can’t be Psul, other than horrible punctuation the words are mostly spelled correctly and it’s not late enough for him to have the liquid courage to post.
Our buddy Anon at 120 is coming out of Germany….
Oh look 120 doesn’t understand the difference between a blog post and a readers comment either. Nowhere has Jonn ever asked for donations. The commenter in 118 (i.e. not Jonn) you responded to merely told his fellow commenters that it would be a good idea to click ads or donate. And judging by your presence here, and the litigious nature the first “amendment until I don’t like what you said” crowd the blog is dealing with, I’d say it is a good suggestion you nit wit.
OT–it’s also a known Tor exit node.
There’s a few trolls here who can’t post from their regular IPs or who think they’re being cute by using Tor, not realizing anyone with even a rudimentary skill set can trace it back to the entry node with a little bit of work.
Especially if they forget to do things like clear their Javascript cache, etc., right Dewald?
I believe that the term “lightness” is the understatement of the year.
That’s probably Dullass Feldenfart at #120… Bewdwetter.
@120 Assholes? Who you callin’ assholes??? Why frankly, I resemble that remark.
Now since you are posting from Germany, shouldn’t you stop irritating the grownups and get back to blowing dudes in lederhosen you maggot????
@120 You must be a Wickre sockpuppet. If ignorance is bliss, you must be deliriously happy.
For your information, I’m extremely choosy about who I contribute my hard-earned dollars to. I choose the causes I want to support, and I don’t respond well to solicitations (I invariably toss the ones I get in the mail into the garbage, and email solicitations get a one-click trip into the trash). Instead I choose the causes to support, and I choose when and how I give that support without prompting or solicitation.
TAH is on my short list in part because it helps expose Stolen Valor asswipes like Wickre. Neither Jonn nor TSO nor anyone else on this blog have directly or indirectly solicited a thing from me, nor have I read anything on this blog that does the same. I contribute and click here for the same reason I do the same for other causes – they all have great value to me in the things they do. Furthermore, TAH doesn’t exist to make a profit (if it did, I wouldn’t be here).
You must be just another chickenshit low-life apologist for Wickre. GFY.
BTW … out of love for my country and what Jonn, TSO and all dickweeds within the sound of my voice do here at TAH. I sent Jonn a check a few months back. Not too big, not too small … just right!
But that is just me, we are all adults here, so play your donations how you wish this Christmas Season!
Now back to the dirt sucking scum sucking scuttlefu*k who suggests we need to raise money.
No we don’t … the money is already there. You see, we are a Band of Brothers, if one falls we all kneel down, if one needs money we reach into our pockets, and if someone threatens us … well … we are all in for the fight.
Our collective networks and pockets are deep … your network not so much!
This could be PW’s theme song. From 1966, I give you…Boris the Spider, sung live by The Who.
@135.
I was thinking more along the lines of Whitesnake’s “Slide It In”.
As a taxpayer that is how I feel after dealing with Phildo.
If you read the post @120 for context, then this phrase takes on new meaning: ‘lawsuits get expensive assholes’.
Just think about it for a minute.
There. See?
In that twisted way, it starts to make sense. Wickre’s money is pouring rapidly out of his ass with all the lawering he’s getting done.
@138 – “expensive assholes” – i.e., the lawers with the poor judgment to work for Psul.
@139.
Not if its taxpayer-funded……
The Phildo has changed the internal layout of APL.
Odd, but makes sense.
He has created a choke point of sorts.
Good stuff!
Well… Everybody’s heard about the turd
Turd, turd, turd, turd is the word
Turd, turd, turd, turd is the word
TAH should sell t-shirts.
Psul the Wickre (pronounced weaker)
With a huge AS TO on a stop sign.
I’d buy one for each of my relatives!
This clip strikes me as a good candidate for the theme song for The Adventures of Psulie-boi and Friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQqO6I
I think the tune suggested by Anon in comment 119 is also good. But the video version linked in this article is IMO more apropos for “Psul and friends”:
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=38522
It must be so very frustrating to psulie-o the uncoolie-o to find that he can no longer post his silly stuff on TAH, never mind get quite the level of public attention he was used to getting until he was busted.
Pity.
But we do have a new and equally incoherent, inebriated troll hiding under the bridge. Not quite the pseudo-intellectual level of psul the uncool, but, still….
One troll falls, another into daylight crawls.
Lots of competition for attention.
I guess that when you have Daddy issues like Paulie NoNuts, things do happen that reflect poorly on the person.
FYI Paulie…AS, BA and (as of March) MBA (emphasis in Healthcare Management), all courtesy of TA and the Post 9/11 GI Bill. And your education background is???? Yep, I thought so.
I will keep both of you and your families in my prayers. I also pray for Mr. Wickre’s wife.
And Mr. Wickre if you are reading this. Please stop what you are doing and seek counseling. You appear to me to have anger issues, that if addressed through counseling, could help you overcome this misplaced anger and self destruction.
God Bless everyone.
I notice that in the search records posted above by TSO, there are 4 (count ’em) attempts by psulie-o the uncoolie-o, a/k/a pickwickre peckrewood, a/k/a the wickre mann, to try to locate me.
He searched, but he did not succeed. I assume the little TV icon means that he found a picture of me, but that’s all.
I think he’s trying to be an internet stalker. But, if this is some sort of inept attempt to find someone, with all his inflated ‘eduaction’ and… well, whatever else he thinks he has, he is SO BORING.
But if he’s using this as an excuse to jerk off while wifey’s back is turned, it’s just rude.
After all, any masturbatory emissions that are produced without reception by an ovum can legally considered reckless abandonment.
His spermacetae should sue him.
I have watched this unfold with amusement as to the gross waste of time of your blog resources. CV misquoted me from my court watching duties. Also since I am on the right side I am privy to what is really happening.
CV forgot about Judge McHughs admonition to the three clowns, and the warning on the future conduct. He also forgot the disobeyed instruction from Judge Creighton. But most importantly, what actually happened with the States Attny. They are in receipt of the entire blog and put junior legal analysts on it and researchers. The State gave another admonition to the good guys attorney, that “as long as there were no more blog problems, and if quiet, they would not institute charges against Lilyea and CV.” Your great lawyer, yelled at the State over the phone, was rude and was hung up on. The State reviewing the transcript commented that Nason could be brought up on malpractice and false arrest.
So my buddy has dutifully been forwarding all your drivel to show your contempt for MD Law. Keep poking the beehive with your stick, as all the threads and comments are being funneled day of to the State, whom also has a live inquiry into the Mineral County prosecutor on the case in Lilyeas backyard.
Keep lighting the fuse!!
Um, really?
Ok, what charges could be filed against Jonn and I? Go ahead, lay out the charges. Who the hell is judge Creighton? How can a lawyer be arrested for “false arrest” when the complaints were filed by a Detective? (They can’t.) I could go on, but what’s the point.
But go ahead, and show one law ever violated.