Phony in Las Vegas
Sporkmaster sent me this on Facebook from the Army WTF Facebook page, where someone snapped this in a casino in Las Vegas;
First of all, get your hands out of your pockets, Big Sarge. And when you have to put your CIB on crooked just so it’ll fit on your uniform, you’re doin’ it wrong.
I noticed there’s an ARCOM with what looks like a “V” and something to the right of that, so it must be an award that’ll get him a Stolen Valor charge.
And is that a two-tone shirt, or the lighting?
Category: Phony soldiers
Where’s the Combat Service Identification Badge?
What’s his last name? Time to check AKO.
@49… Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but I served with the 101 Pathfinders (101 Aviation, not 159), and was in the DS platoon. I’ve never seen this guy in my life.
In answer to the question of how these clowns acquire the fruit salad with no idea what they mean or where they should be placed – best guess is that they find them stowed in someone’s attic.
I’m not being sarcastic I was at 159 PFDR. A guy on fb that was in 101 PFDR in the late 90s says he was at the company
ok…i have to interject some 11B sense.
1) If he is/was an 11B and a SSG and not “11B qualifyed” he would not go out in public in a poorly assembled Service Dress Uniform (the predecessor to the now current ASU) looking like a doofus. Non-regulation hair cut is a nice touch on this helping of clown cake, btw.
2) He wouldn’t have one ARCOM in a lower precedence than the Army Service Ribbon followed by another ARCOM with “V” device on the top of his rack.
3) He would have enough sense to know that the GWOTEM cannot be worn at the same time as the ACM or the ICM. He would also know that the ICM and the ACM require star devices. I would know, I have both and yes there are in fact stars for each deployment/campaign.
4) Only an 11 bravo qualifyed impersonator would go through the trouble of assembling this mobile disaster zone and not think to wear the regulation white uniform shirt that compliments it.
5) What is with the rank and the 12 years of service? Furthermore if he has been or was in for 12 years what is he doing with a star on his NDSM?
There are many more gigs (polite) that I won’t bother to list. so @ #49, maybe he is legit and just a slob…in that case, the SMA’s new policies on deadbeats will become his next best friend.
More likely, he’s full of putrefied bat shit, and pretending to be something he’s not.
Maybe he was at a hiring event for aide to MSG Soup Sandwich and General McSoulpatch in the newly assembled MacBeth’s Fusiliers?
@ 53 when were you at 101 PFDR?
there are a couple guys claiming they served with him at 101 PFDR in 2000-2001 during that time frame. One of the cats I’m friends with on FB served with my old Team Sergeant (when I was at 159 PFDR) when he was with 101 in the late 90s and he says he knows the guy.
So if the guy is legit he needs to wear the uniform correctly and not look like shit
@58… I was with 101 PFDR during the 2005-2006 deployment. So all this talk obviously predates me.
No shit man I did the 05-06 deployment with 159. The only cat I remember from your company was stackpole. I’m assuming you remember Josh Skip Allen (he switched from you guys to us).
DirtyMick, this ass bag is a phony. Why does he have a Marine Corps Good Conduct medal in the middle of the bottom row? I do know what they look, I have some.I showed my Air Force son the picture and he said there are at least three Air Force ribbons in that rack. If you look at #29 I’ve done the math, it doesn’t add up.
It really is a small Army… I certainly knew Chad Stackpole. As for Skip, I vaguely recall him switching early in the summer of 05, but I am a bit fuzzy. You guys did security for general Oates, right? The only person I remember from 159 was SPC Mills.
@63 The joke for stackpole we had at the company is we called him smokepole haha.
The guys that did Oates was Team 4. I was Team 3 for Ricky Rife up in Mosul.
Since you brought up eddie, the company got hit over the summer… http://militarytimes.com/valor/army-staff-sgt-edward-d-mills/6567764
@62 roger I understand the guy is a bag of shit and I’m not defending him. It just blows my mind that somebody coming from Regiment and my sister PFDR company would look like shit. 101 AVN Pathfinders on FB are saying they know this dude and he’s legit
I served with this guy in the PFDR company. He is a good dude. He was in Regiment before getting to the Pathfinders. As a matter of fact this guy has single handedly organized a pathfinder reunion in 2010. I do not know what he did after I left the PFDRs in the military but I do know he served as a contractor and has been blown up a few times. As far as his uniform goes, I dunno, maybe he is embellishing a bit, and that CIB is crooked, but the fact remains that he has probably seen more combat and spilled more of his own blood than just about everyone on his thread.
Think about that the next time you go about sharpshooting my friends uniform.
@64… Ed and I were good friends. I think we met in airborne school and joined pathfinders at the same time. Before the deployment, he and I would ride home together. 8 hours each way… We even outran a cop one time. His family was great too. The guy was educated and had a good story about dancing with Christina Aguillira in Pittsburgh.
@67 ya man. Ed and I checked in together as shitbird privates. It was a rough summer. A bunch of us flew out to PA for the services.
@66 if he has seen more combat than any of us he shouldn’t need to embellish his uniform.
Whatever happened to being proud of your service?
DirtyMick, sorry. I misunderstood. As a Jarhead and veteran, I can’t stand these futher muckers that never served. My ‘fruit salad’ looks more a cup of fruit jello. But I earned mine.
@70 well mutliple guys are saying he was at my sister company at the 101st and before that in ranger regiment. So what I don’t understand is since he came from not one but two outstanding units what would compel him to do that?
@70 I know what you’re saying. I’m proud of my CIB and my Iraq and Afghan Campaign medals. All the other shit was for showing the fuck up
“He would have enough sense to know that the GWOTEM cannot be worn at the same time as the ACM or the ICM”
Yes they can. In order to do so, you have to have served in Iraq of Afghanistan for one year prior to calendar year 2005. Due to the fact that I deployed to Iraq from April 2003-March 2004, over a year prior to the approval of the Iraq Campaign medal, I am authorized the GWOT-E…per HRC. They are the ones who put it on my ORB. The stars on the ICM and ACM represent specific periods during the conflict. I am authorized four stars (through three deployments) because I was deployed during the initial ground war (2003), the initial occupation (2003-2005), the formation of the unity government (2006), and Operation New Dawn (2010-2011)
It doesn’t really matter what else he has, because the NDSM is a dead giveaway with the star on it. What a douche. If that didn’t exist, the CIB wasn’t crooked, and he was wearing up to date blues, with a combat badge, I might buy it.
Gents,
This is the old Dress blue uniform, not the ASU. There is no Combat badge on the right pocket for the dress blue uniform, that’s an ASU thing. The service stripes are appropriate for the dress blue uniform, they would look like the old green service uniform on the ASU. The wear out date for the dress blue uniform is 2014, and as such is still authorised for wear. (I haven’t purchased the ASU yet) Concerning his medals, I can’t see them well enought to comment, although I will say to @12 I am wearing two stars on my NDSM so I wouldn’t necessarily call shenanigans on that. Other than crooked badges and the last two rows of medals being unrecognizable as Army medals, I don’t see much of an issue.
After 5 minutes research here’s what I came up with…
ARCOM 2OLC
DFC (out of order and unheard of in the Infantry in my experience)
GCM (unclear #knots)
Obscured (probably ARCAM)
NDSM (1Star)
ACM
ICM
GWOTE
GWOTS
Probable NATO (out of order)
MOVSM
ANPDR
ASM
Last 5 ribbons?
USAF Small arms expert Ribbon
USAF Training Ribbon
Last row middle, Naval Reserve Meritorious Srevice Ribbon
Last row left, five dollars on it being the USCG Enlisted person of the year ribbon…
Still missing one.
Its sad, but its gotten to where anyone wearing uniform in public must show “license and registration” to prove they are who they say they are. Yep, we need MUM – Military Uniform Monitors strategically placed in restaurants, malls, parks and other public venues to challenge people in uniform to show ID and paperwork. If they are exposed as a fraud – the posers are strapped to flag pole in public square and given 40 lashes then sent off to a Turkish prison. 🙂
The old Blues are still authorized for wear until 2014, no Combat Badge is authorized on the right pocket of the old style blues. The flash behind the wings is typical if your in a airborne unit, that may have changed as I was in 82nd back 83 to 87. No comment on the NDS star ?? might be prior service from another branch, hense the weird ribbon rack. As far as the ribbons go a better picture would have made it much easier.
Still, it is pretty impressive that he was Army, Air Force, Naval Reserve, and Coast Guard, all at less than 40 years old… He is defintely rocking some obscure ribbons, and the Distinguished Flying Cross to boot.. That’s amazing.
@81, roger your comments.
The ribbon next to his Army GCM appears to be the AF Outstanding Unit Award vice the DFC (they’re very similar, but the stripe widths are slightly different and the AFOUA has red stripes on the edges vice blue). He also appears to be wearing an AFGCM after his AGCM (it’s mostly hidden by the lapel, but that’s where it would go in Army order of precedence). In the third row, he appears to be wearing the AF Longevity Service Award. The three ribbons on his next-to-bottom row appear to be the ASR, the AF Small Arms Expert Ribbon, and the AF Training Ribbon. Not sure all of those AF ribbons are authorized (some are, but without checking AR 670-1 I don’t think the small-arms expert and training ribbon are; the AFGCM is, and I believe the AF Outstanding Unit Award is as well; not sure about the AF Longevity Service Award.)
I’d have to disagree that any of the ribbons in the bottom row are USN or USCG. (I believe the ID of the Navy ribbon IDs one that became obsolete in the 1960s or so and is no longer used). Rather, I think they’re all state ribbons from the ARNG. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to look through all the state ribbons listed in Wikipedia/other sources to ID them.
This guy could be legit and have prior USAF service, reentered the ARNG, and has been full-time ARNG since – or have less than 3 years time in an ARNG unit before going full-time (that could also give him a 2nd NDSM – SELRES service qualifies if during the early/mid 1990s). Don’t know if that’s the case or not, but it’s plausible.
Hondo, what you are saying makes way more sense, and with the photo resolution it’s just so damn hard to make out. I’ll take your assessment on it over mine.
And, if all that is taken at face value, then what we have here is a kid who is rocking medals he earned legit, but may or may not be authorized to wear according to regs. If he’d have gone to four per row instead of three it would be so jacked up, and all things being equal I am inclined to think he is legit. Looks like his unit affiliation is a RRGT insignia as well.
*wouldn’t
Found the bottom three – they’re all ARNG Ribbons. They are, inboard to outboard, the Alabama Active Duty Basic Training Medal, the Mississippi War Medal, and Mississippi Service School Medal. Those essentially are ribbons for past school completion and/or service during periods of national emergency. Whether he’s authorized to wear ribbons from 2 different states or not, I dunno – but some states may allow that.
My guess is he’s either in the AL or MS ARNG, and transferred at some point from a unit in one state to a unit in the other (or accepted a FT manning position in the other state’s Guard). If he lives in eastern MS/western AL, that’s conceivable.
My take is this one is “questionable”. He could be legit, or he could be posing. However, if he’s legit he might be wearing a couple of ribbons he shouldn’t be wearing by reg but which he earned previously. In that case, his 1SG or CSM might want to have a word with him about reworking his ribbon rack to comply with regs.
Previous posts have mentioned him not wearing white shirt – but lighting does strange things. His shirt does have a two tone appearance. I noticed blue decorative pieces above him obscuring a skylight perhaps – that could have kaleidoscope effect making his shirt take bluish hue. White of his collar does contrast starkly – I think he’s ok on this.