Local head of POW/MIA under fire
Les Brown
One of our ninjas sends us a news story from Elko, Nevada about valor thief Les Brown, and how he’s in full denial about the accusations and evidence that came to light on these pages. From the article:
CYNTHIA DELANEY
ELKO – A U.S. Army veteran who started a local POW/MIA group 15 years ago is at war again, this time with “stolen valor” groups claiming he falsified his credentials.
Two online valor forums are posting allegations against Les Brown, commander of the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association. The blogs put out by valorguardians.com and militaryphony.com claim Brown does not hold status as a master sergeant, was discharged rather than retired from service, and that he falsely wears the Combat Infantry Badge and Special Forces Insignia on his POW/MIA vest.
They also claim that there is no documentation to support Brown’s Desert Storm veteran status.
“Two days after I got home from Washington, D.C., I got a phone call from my police chief that an individual charged me with plagiarism and abuse of powers due to an article that was written in the Elko Daily Free Press,” Brown said at a meeting held Wednesday evening at Elko City Hall.
He was referring to a June 15 “Local Inspirations” feature that described his efforts to bring back forgotten soldiers and his community service involvement.
Brown works for the City of Carlin. Accusers began emailing Brown’s supervisor, the Elko Daily Free Press and several other people on July 19 claiming that Brown is guilty of “stolen valor.”
“This guy … has created a bunch of problems,” Brown said, laying down military credentials that he said refuted the claims. “He also says I did not serve in Desert Storm. Here is the DD214 right here that says I did and he also says that I don’t have a retired I.D. card and I didn’t retire as a master sergeant.”
“Les Brown committed a felony,” said the administrator at militaryphony.com in an email that was sent to the Elko Daily Free Press. “I am talking about donations that Brown has solicited while misrepresenting himself. Wearing an unearned Combat Infantryman Badge is a felony violation of the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 — especially if it was leveraged to raise money.”
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“These hack websites are going after our vests,” Brown said. “They went after ‘River Rat’ in May for stuff that he was wearing on his vest. They talk about things we wear on our vests that we didn’t earn. Well, we all wear something on our vests that we didn’t earn.”
Brown pointed to a vest his granddaughter wore that has Marine Corps stripes on it to represent a program the group started for children.
Nice deflection, dragging a child into this. Speaks volumes about his character.
I’m not about to claim being an expert at reading DD-214s, but it seems to me he left as an E-4 with no awards that go along with becoming Special Ops (Parachute Wings, Dive Bubble), no CIB, and “..in support of Desert Storm.” is pretty vague. Also no awards FOR Desert Storm, either.
Hat tip to our ninja for the link. Read the rest of the article, including mention of one of our own, here: Elko Daily
ADDITIONAL COMMENT BY MEMBER OF TAH:
Well, it’s good that Lester Kent Brown didn’t ever wear that vest.
Yeah, it was just a made up vest for his granddaughter to wear.
Not like Lester Kent Brown would wear a vest with Master Parachutist Badge, A Combat Infantryman’s Badge, Sergeant First Class rank insignia, a Ranger Tab…
No, just made up bling for his granddaughter.
(The picture on right from 2014, is available on the Association Facebook site)
Category: "Teh Stoopid", Army, Dick Stepping, Guest Link, Stolen Valor Act, Valor Vultures
Well, lets see….
1. Screw you, you don’t have my real records
2. Doubling Down
3. Lots of us wear stuff we didn’t earn (WTF?)
4. My grandfather/relative/honoring.
Right down the poser rule book line.
Everyone get your Bingo Cards ready….
HI. MR. ASS. HAT.!!!!
https://imgur.com/nGqi3aR
What an assjack he is…
a veritable Dick Fitzwell…
” Well, we all wear something on our vests that we didn’t earn.”
QUITE and understatement from that jacked up ASSHAT, I bet he’s about as tough as a wet spaghetti noodle in a Hurricane!
Gee whiz, it says right on that there piece of paper CPL and E4. Aren’t those one and the same? Or did something change since last week?
And isn’t “Dec 1990 to June 1991” about six months +/- a few days?
Just tryin’ to understand here. It’s more likely I’ll see rain today than he will admit he’s been BSing everyone he knows.
Corporal is an E-4, just one in a leadership position. Les may have been in charge of three or four other MP’s in Germany. Someone has to tell them where to look for speeders on base.
OR how to write up the most parking tickets!
Full disclosure…
One of our administrators did incorrectly say it was a ‘felony’ while meaning to say ‘federal crime.’ Stolen Valor is a federal misdemeanor.
However, they had no idea that private communications in the way of an email would be lifted and used as part of a quote in a newspaper article. Permission should have been granted or the journalist should have asked for an interview or if the person could be quoted.
Regardless, this one statement will be exploited ad-nauseum and this misstep is regretted.
In my opinion, they cherry-picked from several emails and weighted everything to give the appearance that Les Brown is an innocent victim.
IMPORTANT POINT: Documents obtained from Les Brown directly, although deserve some consideration, are not the final say-so in this context. The newspaper journalist should obtain her own copy of Brown’s military records from the NPRC. Anything less is not doing her job properly.
It’s best to assume that any communication with a member of the media will be published. Because some part of it likely will.
Fraud, when it involves huge sums of money, is a felony.
Yes, it sometimes is a felony, depending on the amounts involved. But as a resident lawer here, I would advise against asserting anyone has committed a crime if that person has not been convicted. Truth is a defense, but proving it can be expensive.
For what it’s worth, the rules for attribution are usually that what you tell a journalist is always considered publishable unless you specifically request to be off the record. Those who regularly deal with the press, such as politicians and PR people, are aware of this and don’t need to be told. For others, reporters are often reluctant to suggest going off the record because once sources decide to go off the record, it becomes difficult to get them to go back on the record.
This isn’t being pointed out as a criticism; it’s merely a word to the wise.
My own view is that Les Brown has some credibility issues at multiple levels. For example, one is that if somebody wears full-size jump wings and a CIB, even on a vest, it’s probably fair to say that a normal person would assume the wearer had earned such awards. Another example is the Brown quote in the original Elko Daily Free Press story:
Such a claim is not supported by the available evidence and goes beyond the bounds of Desert Storm vet vs. Desert Storm-era vet confusion.
He’s like the Taliban … shielding himself behind the kids.
“nothing follows” says it all
Ol’ Less looks a little MORE concerned in this picture v the steely eyed meat gazing stare on his phony baloney money & “services” donation site. It’s almost as if he spotted Bubba, Thor, Julio, or “Mr. Tiny” in the audience.
Hey Less Brown, you are even MORE of a sh^tbird by doubling down on your lies. Have your lawer call MP/VG LAWYERS and let me know how that works out for you. MP didn’t cause your problems…YOU DID! If you’re having a problems finding one, check for a certain be Nasty one, currently maintaining a minus 6 feet AGL. Look for the upright shingle with the urine stains on it.
Hiding behind your Granddaughter, been awhile since we saw someone go so low. Rot in hell.
cocksucker!
Les Brown is all but admitting he did not earn the Combat Infantryman’s Badge (CIB).
His wearing of the CIB in earlier photos while fundraising must have been a concern for him, so he trots out a child with the CIB on and ties himself to her. I guess this was saying “If you criticize me you also criticize her.”
This is a weak argument. She doesn’t know any better and he does. Someone had to supervise and encourage her to wear the CIB. It simply would not be because she likes the color blue. If that is the case, why not the Purple Heart or the blue and white speckled medal. At some point, someone has to step in and say this is not right due to the honor the badge or medal carries.
The granddaughter wearing the CIB was probably staged for this event. Shame on Les for bringing his granddaughter into his despicable behavior.
-no one- assumes a small child actually earned military bling they wear for innocent play/pretend.
Stolen Valor, meet Stolen Innocence. That twit is really going strange.
Uh, the photo of the vest is his vest, as shown in the photo of him wearing said vest. The vest in the photo is not one for his granddaughter. It even has his nickname, Sgt. Grumpy, embroidered on it.
I noticed that there is a patch for the “Christian Motorcyclists Association” on the older vest. I wonder what they would say about a member lying about their military service?
I was thinking the same thing along with the USMC bling he’s sporting.
“These hack websites are going after our vests”
Oh no.
Not the vests.
Anything but the vests.
What’s next? Our haircuts?
Seriously, this is strange. They want to claim that their vests are not really military, they are quasi-military looking but have their own set of rules… however, they flash them around others and don’t make this distinction so there is an implication they are earned military awards.
They want it both ways.
They focus on the vest because they know his records are the crux of the biscuit (B4 unit with cheese?)
Screw the vest. You can festoon it with anything you like. Hang a dead squirrel on it and you still have a phony pos lying valor thief.
Wake up Cynthia! Do some real research and then write your article.
biscuit (B4 unit with cheese?)
Nope, the B-2 unit gets you the John Wayne Cookies, the forever yummy fudge disc and assorted cheeses./s
Sure was nice of that “journalist” from the Elko Daily to publish a document without a redacted DOB.
But just as I figured, by adding all the info from the FOIA and the DD214s, Lester Kent Brown spent a grand total of 6 years and 19 days of active federal service to this great nation.
Still waiting to see the COSMIC ATOMAL TOP SECRET Cover Sheeted DD214/NGB22 that designates he retired with 20 years and a Master Sergeant E8./s
Naw, screw that crap about the DD214/NGB22. They would probably be forged up copies that Tom Wulf prepared./s
What I really wanna see is the DA Form 2339 that was prepared for Lester Kent Brown.
I was activated from the Reserve for Desert Storm. I stayed stateside. This is what my DD-214 says… the same as Lester Brown’s.
I never once thought of calling myself a Veteran of Desert Storm. I do say I was activated for Desert Storm but I always add that I remained stateside in a training capacity.
I don’t know what I would say if someone else felt confident calling themselves a Desert Storm Veteran – to each his own. I would feel uncomfortable without a disclaimer that I did not serve in theater. That’s just me, though.
One of my DD-214s states in Remarks (Block 18) that member “served 2 Aug 90 to 15 May 95 in support of Operation Desert Shield/Storm.” However, I was stationed in Europe and Japan for most of that period and never deployed to SWA. I never claim to be a Desert Shield/Storm veteran.
Later I did deploy in support of OIF and OEF and I do claim to be an Iraq and AFG veteran since I was awarded both campaign medals. I however, do not wear either a leather vest or chaps and don’t belong to an “awareness association.”
You guys are “Desert Storm times” veterans.
In the “Desert of the Storm”
Riders on the Desert of the Storm.
Many of you squids probably already know this but let me drop some knowledge on those in the dry services. Jim Morrison’s father was RADM George Stephen Morrison an Naval Aviator and recipient of the BSM w/ Valor device in the Korean War. On December 7, 1941, Morrison witnessed the Japanese Attack on Pearl Harbor. Morrison was in command of the Carrier Division during the controversial Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August 1964. The Admiral retired from the Navy in 1975 and died in 2008 at the age of 89.
“Desert of the Storm”
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
— gasp —
KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
Shack!
Yeah, I think that one will stick.
I still don’t care for Viet of the Nam…
I know…tough shit, old man.
Most of us who were there didn’t care much for it either.
Hey, I retired in ’95. I was ‘lucky’, I got to watch the war on CNN (I was 1 of the 250,000 who had to stay home and mind the store.)I PCS’ed Valentine’s day 1991 from Wildflicken to Ft Polk (lucky me).
One of my ME tours was in Kuwait in support of OIF but I don’t even think of calling myself an OIF Veteran because I’ve never even set foot in Iraq. I DO call myself an OEF Veteran because I spent a year on the ground there doing Convoy Escort Missions.
You know, Brothers and Sisters, this scum sucking piece of “wipe this off of my shoe” waste of oxygen, hiding behind his innocent Granddaughter seems to be a perfect candidate for a redeployment of the Trifecta of the doubly earned, but never awarded, Hemisphere of Insults, including the Alphabet Assault and the Toilet Bowl of Taunts. Is it just my itchy trigger finger or what? Not sure but a redeployment may be a FIRST, and well deserved at that.
2nd? Aye?
Wait until it all settles up, 5th/77th. There may be more to come.
I agree and if it is triple deployed, it would be a first of the new group, however, we have had a couple of occasions when The Hemisphere of Insults®™ has been deployed more than once for a particular fudge packing ass monkey, for instance, and I had to scroll back a couple of weeks to confirm, good ole Eric Swalwell got a couple dose on request, and rightly so.
I’ll be hanging out over the weekend and I’ll check back in, on Monday and be in a holding pattern her Ex-PH2’s advice, this may not be the end of the news on Les Brown.
Hey Les, Fuck. You. You. Consuming. Connoisseur. Of. The. Chocolate. Starfish.
Newly added to The Hemisphere of Insults®™
hey…done right, chocolate starfish can be authorized!
But that’s something the aforementioned taint tickling turd burglar knows nothing about.
I defer to the cool headedness of the FIRST Lioness of TAH and my Airedaled Brother of the Aerial Artillery Platformed Services. Was already overly pissed at this POS and can’t put a finger on why it hit me worse than the other multitudes of POSes we’ve seen over the years. It just got that much more worser when he had to hide behind the young’uns skirt. I look at that as a form of child abuse and to me, there is nothing worser than abusing children, mentally, physically, or/and especially, emotionally. Any good he has done for his family or community has been grossly negated by the rocking of his lies. The child will always remember this evil act and it will haunt her and give trust issues forever.
Calling him a jackass is an insult to jackasses everywhere.
Would “Cocksucking Catfish” or Catfish Cocksucker” be worthy of addition?
Hi All, was out on parental duty yesterday.
yep, “Cocksucking Catfish” is being added to The Hemisphere of Insults®™
Happy Tuesday.
How about “dumbass duckfucker”?
Welp, Les has once again preserved the truth about his military service by recording his DD-214. This time he recorded the one he received from his service with the National Guard MP company for his five months and ten days AD when his unit was activated to go to Germany to replace an MP company sent to the sandbox. Clear proof he was never in Desert Storm.
Nope, Less, we do NOT all wear things we have not earned. Most of us wear only what we have earned, and some of us considerably less than what we have earned. I do have a couple of “in memory/honor of” items on my vest, but they are clearly identified as such.
What a PoS. Your willingness to dishonor all of us with your lies about your own service and ours is despicable.
I have a “biker” vest I wear sometimes for special veteran related events like Veterans Day and a couple of Veteran funerals when I ride one of my motorcycles. However, every patch on it is something I earned. Nothing on it is something I didn’t earn or for service I didn’t experience. So Lester and his butt-buddy are lying, but just doing the standard POSer shit. They are only missing their “service” mutts, to check all the boxes for full POSerdom.
Exactly! Even the humorous silly patches on my vest reflect my actual service. The only ones putting unearned honors on their vests are losers.
But that’s not the same as collecting patches or badges from decommissioned ships or squadrons that don’t exist any more – that sort of thing. Those would be history, as well as souvenirs, and putting them on a jacket is not the same thing as claiming you were THERE in 1944 or 1962.
“These hack websites are going after our vests,”
Nah, Les… just the lies you have been rocking for years…
How the fuck did Hack Stoneget dragged into this?
Don’t know, Hack… maybe he has the QuEeFiNgAsScLoWn hot on your tail trying to ID you?
“… we all wear something on our vests that we didn’t earn.” — Les Brown —
Let that sink in for a second.
Les Brown clearly has the civilians in Elko convinced he is a subject matter expert for all things military.
Got to love the pic of him at the meeting, wearing his vest, sitting in a mayor’s or city council member’s chairs, mug in front of a mic, speaking like he’s in charge and the authority on all things military with his “flair” on the vest. Probably had the “truth to power” thing going at the meeting.
He’s gonna hurt a lot of supporters (and vets who served honorably and do not engage in Stolen Valor) when everything is out on the table.
“… we all wear something on our vests that we didn’t earn.”
Uh, since when? I don’t wear vests.
I do occasionally, at the Renaissance Faire, wear a sleeveless number called a doublet – sleeveless because it’s in the upper 80s to 90s and I”m already in a dress and double petticoats and maybe a bum roll and a hoop.
On that doublet can be pinned a number of things from family jewelry to favors from the Queen. Sleeves can be added to the doublet by tying them on.
But the RenFaire is all about having fun in the summer while sitting in the shade of the trees at the Pig ‘n’ Whistle, watching the Queen’s progression through the area. Not QUITE the same thing as what ol’ Les SFB here is saying.
So basically, ol’ Les the Doubling Down SFB is doing is and has been fabricating everything about himself in search of Praise and Glory.
Weak egos are amazing things, aren’t they? They cause more problems for their owners than a coyote and a pit bull facing each other over KFC in a box.
How about wearing everything on your vest you didn’t earn, Lester? Is that something everyone in your little band does, or just you?
This guy gives me a headache.
I thought he was a pain at the other end of the spinal column. But, whatever.
He is doubling down on the stoopid.
Another “honor vest”… no Battle of Hoth medal or Kiss Army logo?
FOR WHICH CONFLICT WAS LES BROWN AWARDED THE COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE (CIB)?
This is an important question that even his closest friends should ask him.
It is clearly not on his “IN SUPPORT OF DESERT STORM” DD-214. So it kind of narrows it down.
Somalia in 1993?
Les says he retired in 1998, but his records say 1994.
Not too many opportunities to earn the CIB if not in Desert Storm, which it shows he did not.
So, again, the question to ask is in which conflict did Les Brown earn the CIB?
Lester Kent Brown probably tells anyone (without any prompting) who will listen that he jumped into Panama. That’s why he wears a Scroll for a combat patch./s
None of his records say he “retired” in 1994 that I have seen. His last assignment was in a Chemical Battalion in Elko in 1993. Unless he was seriously injured on a weekend drill or at summer camp and received a disability retirement, he is not retired from the military.
Maybe his CIB is for the Battle of Compton during the Rodney King riots. But then since he wasn’t serving with an Infantry unit, he wouldn’t be entitled to it no matter how intense the fire fight was.
How bout a retirement check stub?
Or a direct deposit entry?
Les could put it all to rest but is going to drag everyone around him down into the hole he has dug.
Who among them will be first to de-vest themselves?
You’re right 26L – as a military retiree I receive a monthly eRAS (electronic Retired Account Statement) available on the myPay.dfas.mil Web site. And my Direct Deposit bank acct info is listed on the eRAS.
At anytime, I can print out a Verification of Pay letter that contains this statement: “This is to certify that the member is on the Retired rolls of this Center and is currently entitled to pay at the gross monthly rate of [$x,xxx.xx] which is normally payable during his lifetime.”
If Les is legit, he can easily prove it but I don’t expect he will.
I imagine that he tells people he is retired because if he says he was in for almost 16 years, the inevitable next question is “Why didn’t you stay in for 20 years and a retirement?”
He may find it difficult to say “I got kicked out for not making drills.”
Si it’s said that Les Brown was TOO LAZY to even show up for NG Drills?
Anyone know who “River Rat” is in his little band of POSers? And who is the “they” who supposedly went after him/her?
Got him:
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=87053
Thanks. It looks like the vest wearing “biker” band of POSers must have some kind of nationwide org, what this old phony being down in Arizona and being defended by this group in Elko, NV.
From a TAH contributor:
GULF WAR VETERAN vs. DESERT STORM VETERAN
Les is STRETCHING/Embellishing when he claims “Desert Storm/Desert Shield” Veteran.
His unit, the 870th MP Company out of Pittsburg, CA were called to active Duty in SUPPORT of Desert Storm/Desert Shield. Those words are on his DD 214 “In Support Of”.
He and his unit went to Germany to take over (backfill for) an MP Company who DID go into the Box/Boots on the Sandbox.
His unit DOES NOT HAVE ANY DESERT STORM/DESERT SHIELD CITATIONS.
They only have it for OEF/OIF: http://www.militarymuseum.org/LH870MP.html
Additionally, Les does not have any DS awards, because he was NOT boots in the Sandbox.
Les Brown is a ‘GULF WAR VETERAN”… as with a lot of us who were in the Military during Desert Storm/Desert Shield who were not in the Sandbox.
Jonn (Lilyea) WAS a Desert Storm Veteran since he was physically in the Box.
Les is being deceitful.
The other thing is HOW did he retire with 20 years in 1998 considering he did not have a FULL 20 years of active service in 1998 as demonstrated by two DD214s?
I could have sworn an Army Reservist or National Guard would get a 20-year letter when they accumulated enough points… and I thought Army Reservist/National Guard could not draw “Retirement” until they turned 60?
WONDER WHAT LES’ DEFINITION OF “RETIREMENT” IS?
Wonder if he would produce this ID Card? All he has to do is take a picture of it with his DoD Number or (if he has an old one, the SSN) blacked out… a Retiree’s ID card is BLUE… I should know… I have one…
So now he is claiming that the CIB/RANGER/Special Forces/Master Parachute pins belong to other folks and that he is wearing them in their honor?
BS!!
Yeah, he is wearing them to honor others who were Ranger, SF, CIB awardees, just like when he sewed those jumpmaster wings, CIB, and combat Ranger scroll onto his BDU’s and wore them in public at a parade or other event.
weird, I don’t FEEL “honored” by such things.
The CIB, Ranger Tab, Long Tab, etc are EARNED. The medals and ribbons are important, but ‘meh’ to me because as we all know, there is no objectivity in who gets them and who does not. But skill awards, those are different.
We judge our peers by them. To this day I judge Sr NCOs and Officers without FWS/SSI. The Army has been at war for 18 consecutive years and they couldn’t get on an airplane once? Yes, I dog them out on it.
When I think of how many times my soldiers made the 12 and 15 month deployments and some rat bastards are hiding out in “strategic” assignments to deployment dodge it straight pisses me off!
You want to wear these things? Earn them!
The hard way. There are no shortcuts, no paper tests, and no friendzone substitutions allowed.
The thing is this–stolen valor is normally just the rancid cherry on the shit sundae…what other frauds, larceny, and moral turpitude is he engaged in?
“weird, I don’t FEEL “honored” by such things”
I feel sickened by them. Reminds me of the stank ass hippies of the seventies wearing bling on an old field jacket.
FWIW: until a retired reservist turns 60, their ID card isn’t blue. Rather, their “grey area” retired ID card is light red/pink. The blue retiree ID card is issued to “grey area” retirees at age 60 when they becomes full retirees and TRICARE eligible.
My retired ID Card is actually Red indicating I am in the Retired Reserve. It’s also the old school type ID and not the new CAC design.
As for retiring with 20 years…it is required of USAR/ARNG to have 20 years of creditable service to retire unless it is a medical retirement. Creditable service simply means they meet the requirements for each year. In short they have to have a certain amount of “points” each year for it to be a creditable year. Points are earned by attending drill and AT. If they have any time in their career where they do not meet the points requirements for a given year that year is not credited for retirement purposes. Basically if you have 20 years in and think you can retire but you have one year that is not credited you will need to do 21 actual years to get your 20 for retirement purposes.
Also ARNG soldiers do have to wait until they are 60 to receive retirement pay unless they have been activated for the GWOT and I would also guess DS/DS. In that case the time they are on Federal Activation is subtracted from their retirement age requirement. In my case they should subtract 18 months thus I would receive my retirement pay a bit earlier.
At least the two ribbons on my reduped white jumper are legit as well as the patches on my Brink’s shooting jacket.
Biased or Unbiased Reporting? The lady that wrote this article, Cynthia Delaney (cdelaney@elkodaily.com), is friends with Les Brown which can be easily confirmed by her Facebook profile. https://www.facebook.com/cynthia.delaney.3 When she called someone associated with this site, it was reported that she only wanted names and dictated that she only had a few minutes. Once she got names, she hung up. Les, on the other hand, got the red carpet treatment and was allowed to explain himself complete with a compliment of photos to support his position. All I can really say is Les Brown continues to mislead people about his military experiences and the general civilian population does not understand the nuances of what he is putting out. * Les was kicked out of the National Guard. He did not retire after 20 years as he claimed. * Les should NOT have a retired military ID card. If he does, he is committing fraud and theft of services should he be using it to gain something of value. * Les was never in combat. He was not a DESERT STORM VETERAN as he claims. He was a reservist called up in support of Desert Storm which many reservists were. This deserves some admiration as people left their daily lives and answered the call. He just was not close to the action and should be called a “GULF WAR VETERAN” vs. a “DESERT STORM VETERAN” and this distinction is lost on most civilians. * Les never earned the Combat Infantryman’s Badge and should know the significance of it. Enough so that he should know better than to treat it like an ornament and dilute its value by saying everyone wears medals they didn’t earn. I bet he would not feel the same way had he actually EARNED a CIB. Cynthia Delaney was an extremely poor choice to do this story. She should have recused herself due to her friendship with Les Brown. Either that, or there should have been a stronger emphasis placed on getting the other side of the story to eliminate the perception of bias. Delaney should be ashamed… Read more »
Let’s not forget that Lester has also been rocking a Ranger Scroll and Jumpmaster wings with Master Sergeant’s insignia on a full uniform in public for god knows how long.
At least he’s not sporting an ARCOM because I would just fucking lose it.
Not to mention, in all those years of Active/Reserve/National Guard service, never once was he awarded a GCM or ARCAM.
Pretty pathetic, don’t ya think?
Kinda hard to be a self proclaimed 20 year retired Master Sergeant without a Good Cookie.
If Les Brown is sporting a Ranger Scroll then I say he ought to be made to attend a Ranger Rendezvous on Fort Benning to explain himself to REAL US Army Rangers.
Was it intentional on the part of TAH that the middle portion of his primary specialty was whited out so you only see “Military Police” and “Infantryman”? Or did Lester Kent Brown do that himself?
Asking for a friend…
It was in the article like that. TAH did not alter it in any way.
Thought so. Must be that “top secret” part of his DD214 no one is allowed to see.
Undoubtedly it was the entry for a secondary MOS of 55B10 Ammunition Storage Specialist.
But “Ammunition” is one of those words that trigger Snowflakes, so redaction is the order of the day./s
Is Ammunition Storage Specialist abbreviated as ASS? Just asking because of Les.
Noticed that too. Steve is correct.
“Two days after I got home from Washington, D.C., I got a phone call from my police chief that an individual charged me with plagiarism and abuse of powers due to an article that was written in the Elko Daily Free Press,” Brown said at a meeting held Wednesday evening at Elko City Hall.
I can’t figure out what Les is talking about here. Could it be someone local to him that felt betrayed when they learned of his Stolen Valor?
I think ol’ Lester doesn’t know what “plagiarism” actually means. Either that or his police chief is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
That puzzled me too.
For one thing, “plagiarism” is a civil offense, not a criminal one in which the police would be involved.
Maybe “my police chief” means a security guy in the organization and not a real LEO.
Also, the comment about LEO’s wearing awards from other departments is something I have only seen once. A member of PD from another state was in town on vacation and saved a woman’s life by stopping the buttwipe that was beating here mercilessly along the side of the road. The cop held the buttwipe until the police came and while waiting, the woman went into a cardiac arrest. He gave her CPR and kept her alive until paramedics arrived.
The LEO was given an award by the local police department and City Council and his department / city council passed a resolution which allowed him to wear the award.
I spoke with a couple LEO friends and they said that wearing of other department’s awards is fraudulent and very much against policy in their respective departments.
Run a search on Les Brown in the Elko News (elkodaily.com) and plenty of interesting items pop up.
Here is one where someone wrote a letter to the paper expressing thanks for Les Brown sharing his Desert Storm experiences with local school children.
https://elkodaily.com/news/opinion/letter-veterans-share-stories-with-students/article_3ac679bc-0bc5-5cb7-a9af-0c91252619f5.html
The local payer has a lot invested in Les Brown given the number of stories eluding to his military service. Will be interested to see if they own up to not fact checking this clown.
So Lee Foster the Chaplain is a Vietnam vet.
Cool.
“Lee Foster and Les Brown, two local veterans, who were happy to come to each of my classes and speak to my students about their experiences in Vietnam and Desert Storm”
Here is a story about Lee Foster in ElkoDaily.com:
https://elkodaily.com/lifestyles/local-inspirations-a–year-love-story/article_69ae031e-eade-571e-8383-5510478e62ad.html
In this article he claims two tours in VietNam while in the Navy serving on an aircraft carrier.
If true, what is he doing putting up with Brown’s BS?
Interesting all the local press this leather vest crowd receives.
“The local payer has a lot invested in Les Brown”
The writing seems a bit glad handed.
Just the opposite of Jan Spann’s home town
paper the Banning Informer.
They ripped her a new one.
Speaking of Jan Spann, I’ve been periodically checking to see if there’s been any news about her repaying that 13K plus in stipend money she received.
As of this date, Crickets.
Heh. That makes two of us.
She’s a story teller:
https://www.amazon.com/Rebel-West-Jan-Spann/dp/1493784242
scroll to the bottom and read the last review.
I did. That review was posted two years ago today and the book is still up for sale.
Goes to show ya how much “stock” Amazon puts in reviews./s
Don’t blame Amazon… They are still trying to clear their inventory of:
1 Used from $8.99
2 New from $9.00
Maybe Goodwill turned them down for donating those copies.
The “used” copy has been a doorstop at the warehouse since printing.
Or waiting to be used as emergency TP in the bathroom…
Comments Update:
Only eight more comments to go and the three combined posts pertaining to Lester Kent Brown will reach 500.
((Over))
Need a second sockpuppet.
I think we wore out the first one.
Les is less than he claims to be!
Wait. I was not told there would be sockpuppets. My popcorn reserves are dangerously low. Was foogas deployment authorized?
Level Achieved!! Plus!!
This comment is #600.
This Les Brown guy steps on his dick more than a duck fucking dimwit dumbass.
Step hell, IMHO Les Brown is stomping on his pecker while wearing golf shoes!
Mea culpa in advance for the length of this post. I write this as a civilian. I never served, but I have a voice that I have right to use. I have decided to use it here. I’m not sure, aside from the obvious, why Les Brown’s incongruities bother me so much – more than other stolen valor cases that have been featured on this site. I seldom comment on articles. The Les Brown Affair, though, has brought me out of the shadows to express my discontent. Perhaps it is the fact that he stands in a position of authority at an organization and in his community that bothers me, and positions of power have certain obligations. The truth is one of them. My father was a U.S. Army military police officer in Occupied Germany following WWII during the Korean era. My sister was a U.S. Army nurse. My eldest brother was a U.S. Army military police officer. My middle brother retired from the U.S. Air Force as a master sergeant after 22 years. In all those years of service, not one was called to an active war zone. There were moments of possibility, of course – activation calls that came in the middle of the night or being a part of the preparation “just in case” they were called. There were also deployments to Honduras, Saudi Arabia, and quite a number of other places where the threat was certainly real. My family was lucky. The same cannot be said for Gold Star families and the families of those wounded in harm’s way. Their lives will never be the same. The medals and awards their loved ones earned are little consolation when compared to their level of loss, including damaged bodies and lives gone. My dad had a saying he liked very much throughout his life, which was the French “noblesse oblige”. For lack of a better translation, it means “with nobility there is obligation”. Those in positions of power had, and have, an obligation to serve others with integrity and honesty. He lived this motto until the day he… Read more »
Well said…and Thanks for saying it. Let me be the FIRST to offer to buy you the beverage of your choice…and some hot wings.
Nicely put.
Chase,
Thank you, Sir.
Much more can be said, but I think the individuals who feel the integrity and speak of truth say it all.
There is a certain amount of pain, emotion, and unrestrained laughter on this site, which goes into vague humor, ridiculousness, crazy-ass military stories, and the basic human nature of our food preparation, our new POV’s, our new firearms, our new pets, how the sassafras isn’t growing, or how we miss our loved ones when they go away.
These things, we will get through.
b out
Well done, Chase…
Nicely stated.
Here is a copy (minus the images, already posted on TAH, especially the Adobe .pdf all in one marked up photo) that I sent to the Elko reporter: Notice the Master Parachutist Badge (the silver jump wings with a star and wreath above)? That is earned by paratroopers who must … as a minimum … 1 – Complete Paratrooper training at Fort Benning, GA, then 2 – Graduate Jumpmaster School and be Jumpmaster qualified, and 3 – Serve at least three years in a paratrooper assignment while drawing “jump pay” (hazardous duty pay – parachute), 4 – Make at least 65 parachute jumps, with additional requirements for combat equipment jumps, mass tactical jumps, etc. You can look it up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parachutist_Badge_(United_States) And of course, Lester Kent Brown did none of those things. He boasts of being a “Desert Storm Veteran.” Technically, he was — as accurately recited in his California DD Form 214 — called up from the National Guard “in support” of Desert Shield/ Desert Storm. His “support” was to go to Germany and serve as a Military Policeman in a German town called Kaiserslautern. It’s a major U.S. Army support facility, I myself served there briefly in the 1980’s. Great food, great beer, good shopping, and France was only a short drive away. In other words, his time as a “Desert Storm Veteran,” and while I guess technically he was “at risk of being sent to the front lines” in fact it was a pretty enjoyable tour of duty. For that service he was authorized — as reflected in his records — an “Overseas Service Ribbon.” It isn’t even a medal, it’s a “thanks for coming” ribbon. Like all service members during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, he was also awarded the National Defense Service Medal. That medal is automatically awarded to every servicemember who is on active duty during a time of war, whether or not they even left the United States. Literally “everybody gets one,” including me, and while I also served short terms of active duty during that time in the U.S. Army Reserves, I never even… Read more »
Nice summary. Thanks for taking the time.
I hope it does some good. I think there may be some thought given to getting this all right but I think Les know enough to pull the wool over people eyes, especially civilians.
Then, there are a certain amount of people that just don’t care.
That is what I find a little comfort in. If these guys are exposed, there are enough people around them that will express their support and not weigh in too much so it gives the “perp” a false sense of security. But there will always be that element of doubt with his friends and family.
They are already seeing him pivot in regard to him wearing the CIB. And the Desert Storm language on his DD-214. He was not in combat but I believe he told people he was. Maybe Les is banking on them not remembering what they thought they heard? Maybe he doesn’t have the luxury of caring and just has to spin things again to save his caboose, no matter how hokey his excuses are.
Maybe someone will get wind of all this and remembers he plunked down a retired military ID card and obtained goods and/or services. A big question: Is he enrolled in Tricare?
I think people will feel a little “unclean” about covering for Les when they know that Les has told them something different over the years.
This may be a case where time has to be allowed to do her perfect work.
Nice job laying it out for them, Charles. I hope the editor doesn’t just hand your letter to Lester’s gal pal who wrote the article defending his BS, cuz she is clearly clueless.
“His “support” was to go to Germany and serve as a Military Policeman in a German town called Kaiserslautern”
Kaiserslautern Commando.
Mall cop at the PX.
Wonder if knew he any of the gals that hung around the fence.
“He boasts of being a “Desert Storm Veteran.” Technically, he was — as accurately recited in his California DD Form 214 — called up from the National Guard “in support” of Desert Shield/ Desert Storm.”
This part of Lester “so full of shit his eyes are” Brown’s DD-214 is telling. If he had deployed to the ME (Saudi Arabia or Kuwait) it would have been denoted on his DD-214. For example, mine for deployment to Iraq states in Block 18 “//ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY IN SUPPORT OF OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM IAW 10 USC 12302//SERVICE IN KUWAIT/IRAQ: 20040324-20050303//IMMINENT DANGER PAY AREA//”
Had a busy day, trying to edjumacate myself. Missed my dose of TAH, trying to catch up.
“My granddaughter…”
Can’t get worse than when a child is used to shield one’s own ethical weaknesses.
Guess that’s why they call it, well…
Bring the proof, Les. Bring the proof, Wulffff.(intentional…not sure why, maybe just to piss him off and get a reaction…) Cindy? Hello, Cindy? Any integrity hanging around that coffee room?
…awaiting response…
(…don’t care what time it is, still awaiting response…)
Hup two tree for..
I wanna be a classified Ranger
I wanna go where there’s no danger
I won’t go to Desert Storm
Phony medals will be worn
Sound off…
He makes me giggle…
Do you want to start an organization that honors or helps veterans? Good for yo, do it. Where is it stated that you need to be the most decorated GI since Audie Murphy to do it? Bob Hope never served in the military, nor did he ever claim to be, but he is probably one of the most loved individuals by the military in the last 75 years. (Gary Sinise may take that title someday). Even if his organization is above board and actually fulfills its mission, it will now forever be tainted because of the dishonor that Lester Brown brought to it, from this point forward to be known as “The Brown Stain”. Congratulations Lester Brown, you simultaneously became Internet famous and drove a stake into the heart of your group.
All one has to do is THE MATH. It’s all right there.
From the DD-214 in the article:
Total Prior Active Service: 06 yrs 06 mths 01 dys
Date of Discharge: Aug 14, 1991
Les Brown’s claimed he retired in 1998 with 20 years, so if he was given the benefit of the doubt and every year since Aug 14, 1991 was spent either on active duty or as a drilling National Guardsman, he could only get another 7 years and 4.5 months.
06 yrs 06 mths 01 dys
+ 07 yrs 04 mths 15 dys
———————–
13 yrs 10 mths 16 dys (<–MAXIMUM POSSIBLE)
His Summary Sheet shows that he got out in 1994, however. Even so, it is impossible for him to have 20 years in the military as he has claimed.
You need to use “classified” math to make it all add up. Some of those years were very long and don’t show up on normal calendars.
If you use a Julian calendar and take the square root of each day, add it to the sum of all odd numbered days you then have the key to comparing actual days served.
It’s in the handbook. /s
Must be that “new math” they wuz always talking about. We only learned ‘rithmetic for cifering guhsentas. Is Julio’s calendar different from Greg’s? Where you gonna put a square root? Aren’t sum days even numbered? You got a book in your hand? Does it have pictures? High school was the longest 8 years of Les’ life.
“High school was the longest 8 years of Les’ life.”
And he didn’t even graduate after all that time. The non-completion is listed right there on the FOIA results.
But, Non-High School Grads are picked up all the time for promotion to MSG E-8 under the Blood Stripe System./s
The only thing long and hard on Les Brown was the Fourth Grade in Elementary School!
Les — Finish High School. Get your GED. No better way to sharpen up those math skills.
Make sumpthin’ of yourself.
What did Les Brown do, drop out to go work the lube rack at Larry’s Garage?
I think you missed the line on that same DD214 that says he had 6 yr 6 mo 15 days prior inactive service. Add that, and reserve retirement based on 20 years total service (AC + RC) would be possible – but ONLY IF all of his inactive service was qualifying service for Reserve Retirement. Based on other info presented in comments, I doubt all of his inactive service was qualifying service.
Another commenter indicated above that Brown got tossed from the ARNG for missing drills. Assuming that’s true, that tells me there’s a damn good chance he didn’t have the 20 qualifying years necessary for reserve retirement and was administratively discharged instead of being moved to the reserve retired list.
You’re right, I stand corrected. I was looking at strict active duty.
So, adding active and inactive it is roughly 13 years. Just shy of 13, but I’ll round up.
Seven and a half, rounded up again, would give him 20, but that is based on a 1998 “retirement.”
That said, his official military records still say he got out in 1994 vs. 1998 so he would not have enough time to retire. As well, the duty status says he was ‘discharged’ vs. ‘retired.’
So, I will concede there is some wiggle room, but not much. This is probably why he uses the year 1998 vs. 1994.
BULLHORN: We’ve got you surrounded.
Put down the vests and step away with your hands up.
I repeat, put down the vests.
Vests?
We ain’t got no vests.
We don’t need no Vests.
I don’t have to show you any stinking Vests!
Stick your arms out when they come. It will make it harder for them to get the net around you.
That’ll leave a mark, Keepin”…
Excellent!
That’ll leave a Brown Stain.
What ribbon is on the vest (Damn the water and food storage, Men! Save the vests!!)
to Les’s right after the SWA ribbon?
(Good to see Hondo out here. b out.)
Sorry, not SWA, Kuwait Liberation Medal.
Awaiting Sister Mary Grace…
Kuwait? Does that show up on his records ANYWHERE?
Isn’t that the “Desert Storm” award, and if so, how did he get it if he was in Germany at the time?
Oh, that’s right: surplus stores have everything these days.
Maybe this?
https://www.medalsofamerica.com/desert-storm-25th-anniversary-commemorative-medal?msclkid=5f348080b8651f80c302ddbce6767119&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=(ROI)%20Shopping%20-%20Medals%20%26%20Ribbons&utm_term=4580634167197890&utm_content=Military
If Les Brown decides to go legit, he could order this for his vest: (under $5.00)
https://www.medalsofamerica.com/national-defense-service-medal-hat-pin
The only thing that would make that NDSM pin better would be a surrounding gold wreath emblazoned with capital letters that say:
“I SPENT MY TIME IN HELL”
(Smile)
Oooooh! Groovy! Get me one, Daddy!!!
Not to mention the ASR lapel pin.
The four on the DS patch are the NDSM, SWA, Saudi KLM, and Kuwaiti KLM.
This may help. The NDSM is a little squashed on the patch. This may be due to the difficulty of getting the stitching that close together.
Steve, you have to stop making it easier for these people to cheat.
Make ’em read AR 670-1 and work for it, you know…
Les Brown – I call upon you to do the honorable thing and come clean. Eyes are upon you and it is an opportunity to show those that support you that you have integrity.
Otherwise, you are dragging down people with you and tainting a good cause and reputable organizations.
You know what’s right to do. It’s the only thing to do.
Stop this madness. Come clean. Admit what you did.
If you don’t, you show that you do not trust people around you to forgive you. Shouldn’t they be given the benefit of the doubt that they will accept you for what you are and not what you have put yourself out there to be – a combat veteran?
Well stated advice.
If any of his “true” friends can help him end this they will be there afterwards.
Life will go on and he can be proud of his “true” accomplishments.
Win/win
My mom (hi mom) once said:
If you can count your true friends on one hand you are blessed.
She was being generous.
Sound advice, Terry… but, as we have seen numerous times in the past, Les will sit there and be defiant to the bitter end about his military service, and take his organization and its members with him down inn flames.
Any word on their meeting last night? Maybe a reenactment of the bunker scene in “Downfall”?
https://www.captiongenerator.com/make-a-hitler-reacts-video
I haven’t seen a case quite like this recently.
Thus the interest of all the dickweeds.
It is going to break “records” (sorry Jeff).
He truly is a butthead.
Cynthia Delaney, the journalist [cough] that wrote this article for the Elko Daily Free Press, fails to grasp a simple principle – you can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig.
She should stick to selling her photography. Her journalistic skills are lacking. She doesn’t appear to be concerned in the least about ordering Brown’s FOIA herself and the article should have stated that they were in the process as demanded by due diligence.
I think that the Elko Daily Free Press is just a Social Media blog printed on cheap paper.
They like to feel that they have the pulse of the community but this time they put their money on the wrong horse.
“Commemorative Medals”.
They are so nice.
When one lacks the substance/ facts/ documentation of the real ones, one must go to the local military surplus store to find these.
Your balloon is burst, Les Brown.
Come clean for your family, your friends, and your community.
I am not one of the TAH regulators.
Don’t think there are any.
Got facts, Les?
Every Top has an NCO he trusts implicitly, who sees his values, the mission, and the safety/security of his troops one in the same.
And give him a heads up if the CO is out of whack.
I took a lot of (verbal, vocal, and scripted) hits in that position, knowing Top had my sorry ass.
You fake being a “Top”.
Karma bad. Lying about service, bad. Hiding behind innocent children, bad.
Using reporters that you have a “relationship” with, bad.
Haven’t heard from Cynthia lately…
Thank you, Top B.
b out
Cynthia: I need you to sign this SF-180 Les.
Les: What’s an SF-180?
Cynthia: Release of military records.
Les: It’s the vest again isn’t it?
Cynthia: No Les…it’s my job. The vest means nothing to me.
Les would do anything for his friends…
except give ’em the vest off his back.
If they were in fake combat, Les would take a fake bullet meant for his buddies…
just not in the face or the chest.
He would ride his Bike into the middle of pretend hell for any of them as long as nothing happened to his vest!
If crossing a pretend desert, he would give the last swig of water from his make believe US Army military issue canteen / one each.
Just don’t touch the vest.
26Limabeans – a REAL reporter with INTEGRITY would do that. I suspect that there are very few reporters (if any) in Elko that have that type of integrity.
When I DEROS’d from Vietnam in class A’s the only award on me was the NDSM.
That and spec 5 stripes.
I looked like an E5 Basic trainee.
Had to buy the rest of my bling.
But at least I used my real DD-214 as a guide.
Not the “classified” one. That would get me in trouble.
Just ask Les.
Les Brown is so full of shit even Colt “Cockholster” Bulot and Al “8 Ball” Merklien say he’s a poser.
Even beat up worn out Jaguar cars avoid him!
API did Colt “Cockholster” Bulot ever send in his Ranger school and Q course class numbers?
Nah, but I heard that he sent in his “Fluffer Certification Certificate” issued to him by the management at Brucie’s Bath House (Entrance in the Rear) showing that he is an official cockholster!
“8 Ball”
https://militaryphony.com/2016/01/15/alan-merklein-us-army-phony-vietnam-combat-wounded-special-forces-ranger-blog-of-shame/
8 Ball was an E4 too. The E4 Mafia has declared Les and 8 Ball persona non grata.
I think they call him “kickstand” now after losing a leg in a bike wreck.
Queef.
And a phildoesque one as well.
Just posted… https://www.facebook.com/elkodaily/posts/2430752340323463
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UPDATE – The secretary of the ELKO POW / MIA has commented today, Saturday, July 27, on the Elko Daily Free Press Facebook page. —– (Paste) [Laura Adams] As an association this will be our only written statement about the false accusations against our Director Les Brown. First of all, we as an association stand behind him fully. We have all seen the documentation proving that all the claims against him are false and were made by people with limited information. If you are personally interested in seeing this documentation please attend a meeting or contact Les Brown personally. We do not feel it is necessary to provide personal information to the internet. We fully understand that there will be claims that this documentation does not exist, is fake or is altered, and that is their prerogative. The people that need to have it or need to know this documentation is authentic, already have it and already know. Our vests are another point we would like to talk about. Many of us have things on our vests that were given to us in memory of someone. We have pins and patches that we didn’t “earn” and we have never claimed to. We are NOT a Military ran organization and our Veterans are not in uniform. No laws or codes have been broken. Many of our members are not Military and have never claimed to be. We would also like to point out that we are not a motorcycle club or chapter. We use motorcycles as a tool to grab the public’s attention to bring awareness to the POW/MIA mission. Many in our association do not own bikes. Our goals as an association are clear: To bring awareness to our POW/MIA Military personnel and to help support the National League of POW/MIA Families and other local charities of our choice. We are guided by the principals of Freedom, Sacrifice, Liberty and Brotherhood to ensure that we maintain our focus on the issue at hand. Thank you… POW/MIA Elko Awareness Association. (end paste)
Denial of reality is a sign of mental something or other.
If there’s another shoe to drop, I hope nobody gets hurt.
As Adam Driver said repeatedly to Bill Murray in the recent zombie movie The Dead Don’t Die….. “This isn’t going to end well.”
Yeah, there’s this weird circling of the wagons.
I have faith that the coalition is not that strong and we’ve already seen semi-defections from those that have doubts about defending Les Brown’s lies.
What should tell them quite a bit is that Les is not making direct statements, probably because he is backed into a corner and what he says can be held against him. One never has to worry about that when telling the truth.
Les – What combat were you in that you got a CIB?
Les – What combat were you in that you referred to in the newspaper article?
Les – How come it does not show MSG (E-8) on ANY of your official military documents, including the ones you put out?
Les – How come it does not show 20 years of military service on your military documents?
Les – How is it that you have a retired military ID card? Retired from what?
So many questions, but Les is going to stick his head in the sand and hold his butt up in the air.
he does know that the only way to get a CIB is to be in combat while assigned to an infantry brigade (or BCT these days) in an infantry billet while holding an infantry MOS (11 series) or while assigned to a special operations unit in an 18 series billet doesn’t he? An MP assigned or attached to a unit gets nothing and likes it.
No, he does not know that because eternal boots don’t read AR 670-1, let alone understand it.
Looks like there will be a few in Elko that will be hurt when that shoe drops… and the veterans community will probably carry the brunt of it, along with family, friends and other associates.
Link to the post and comments about Lester Kent Brown on the Elko Daily Free Press page on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/elkodaily/posts/2430752340323463
“We use motorcycles as a tool to grab the public’s attention”
The bling is just ancillary then? Not meant to grab “attention”?
Please
This going to come to it’s logical conclusion.
You haven’t got there yet.
Who is it that minds the accounting books? Maybe someone should ask for an audit – a REAL audit.
Yes, where DID Les get a “retired military” ID card?
That dead Florida pilot at least put up a real fight instead of Expecting Others to stand between him and his Perceived Enemies. And he was known to have embezzled settlements from his California clients.
But this? This jerk is hiding behind everyone else, expecting them to step in between him and the Perceived Enemies out there somewhere beyond the pail of crap that he’s created.
You can tell from the comments of Les’ supporters that he and the organization have been trying to control the message for a long time. Many of the comments have been along the lines of “we believe Les ’cause he’s a neat guy” and can’t be bothered with the truth.
I wounder how many in the Elko community and former members have tried to call Les out previously, and were “put in their place” by Les and his minions?
In other words, “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”
“people with limited information”
Like the NPRC.
ATTENTION ON DECK:
Less (Shit For Brains) Brown – Congratulations!!!
Due to you and your Sockpuppet’s continuation of lying, the total comment count (for all three posts) now is quickly approaching Bernathian levels.
This comment is #700.
The Bernathian Threshold.
The Gunga Dan Line.
Les is begging for his own fame.
Having read that link put up from Daisy Cutter, I am going to work on my practice A/V dialysis lines, grab a frosty beverage and await incoming.
Somebody’s shovel wasn’t big enough…had to go lookin’…
They found one!
They will have a series of huddles where Lester will directly oversee the defense of the perimeter.
My guess is after a while, they will begin to feel quite creepy over their role. But I could be wrong.
They will have a series of huddles where Lester will directly oversee the defense of the perimeter.
Ah, yes… the Bernathian Gambit.