Lance Whipple doubles down

| December 28, 2015

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Earlier this month, we talked about Lance Whipple who claimed to be an Air Force Captain up in Lansing, Michigan. Apparently, he just noticed the post about him yesterday, because his wife called us to defend him. He sends us these DD214s to prove that we were wrong in our initial assessment that he had a few weeks in the Air Force;

Whipple DD214 1

Whipple DD214 2

As is often the case, these DD214s only raise more questions in my mind. I’ve never seen that font used by the military. The form version is in the upper left hand corner of the form, but every DD214 has the version in the bottom left corner. My DD214 is from 1993, and it uses a 1988 form version, but this one from 1990 uses a 1990 version. There are numerous misspellings and the math in Block 12 is incomplete on both. Finally, on both forms, the re-up code 2P signifies “AWOL; Deserter Dropped from Rolls” – not to mention that he claims to have eleven years enlisted time and then 20 years as a captain. it seems to me that a captain would have been QMP’d long before a thirty-one year retirement.

He claims that the FOIA we have is wrong because the clerk misspelled his middle name. I wonder how many Lance Whipples were in basic training at Lackland in September 1979. We’ve resubmitted for the FOIA with these DD214s attached. By the way, the PJ community tells us that they have no record of him attending any pararescue training with any middle name.

Whipple FOIA2

They claim that they’re coming to West Virginia to meet with me, and, sure I’ll meet them, but if we’re meeting to discuss this forgery, probably the worst forgery I’ve seen since Jesse MacBeth we’ll just be spinning our wheels.

The Commander Club should look into his claims, too. here he is at one of the social events;

Whipple Commander Club

UPDATE 3/16/2016; I guess our meeting has been postponed while Heidi is writing the check for his bail;

Whipple arrest

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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sj

They are “comething” too? Bringing Forging Frank to authenticate the docs?

thebesig

Each day must have felt like a year to him. 🙄

HMCS (FMF) ret.

Forgin’ Frank fleeced him for the phony docs… at $20.00 per sheet!

Shit, I know more than my fair share of PN’s/admin types that would have a cow looking at those 214’s… wrong font, misspellings all over the place, skewed font… it’s like Lancie isn’t even trying to put an effort into being a Fraud.

Leatherneck

I remember Mr Whipple being the spokesperson for Charmin bathroom tissue. He needs to go back to squeezingredients the Charmine, since he’s obviously full of shit!

GDContractor

Good job Mrs. Whipple!

HMCS (FMF) ret.

She’s got bigger balls that “her man”…

Also, like the booking pic! I bet you that he’s a cockmeat connoisseur!

Eden

And she’s doubling down on teh stupid, as well.

sj

What the hell is a “National Defence Medal”? Must be from Canada where they spell differently.

MrBill

Canada must also give the “Armed Force Reserve Medal” to officers in the regular Air Force.

UpNorth

And the Canucks spell separation as “seperation”. And he gots him an Armed Force Reserve Medal.

Ex-PH2

To enlighten you, the National Defence Medal is the one you get for removing unwanted fencing and filling in the fence postholes.

Unlike the National Defense Service Medal, also sometimes fondly called the gedunk medal, the Defence medal is proudly displayed by those who participate in filling in postholes. Or digging more. Surely, all of you have heard of those guys with PHDs, right?

Claw

PHD = Post Hole Diggers ?

Ex-PH2

Bingo! You get the box of cornflakes, a month’s supply of plastic spoons, dehydrated potatoes, and of course, real fake butter!

Claw

OK. I figured as much. But delete the box of cornflakes. I’d rather have a #2 can of powdered eggs instead.

That’s the first thing I think of whenever I see some POS poser with the notation of PHD in their signature block.

PHD = Post Hole Digger. Cause you know he is just going to keep on digging himself deeper and deeper.

GDContractor

Dude went to “OFFIER CANIDATE COURSE” for 12 weeks!

Back off, haters!

sj

And to “Parachute Trainig” (SIC) for 8 weeks…a course that has been 3 weeks since JC was a Corporal.

If I had time, I”d research that AN/FRC-150 item…I smell a rat there.

SFC D

I think Mr. Whipple meant this little gem:

http://rf.harris.com/capabilities/tactical-radios-networking/anprc-150.asp

Though I seriously doubt he’s ever actually seen one.

Sj

FRC vs PRC makes a huge difference. Yet another 214 error I guess. AF must have some lousy clerks.

GDContractor

Harris might make some badass Fire Retardant Clothing, but if they did, it would be top secret and we wouldn’t be allowed to talk about it.
//just brainstorming

SFC D

I’m thinking the 214 clerks all had GT score waivers.

Claw

Or at least a waiver in the CL (Clerical) category of the ASVAB scores.

Ex-PH2

Listen up. I got this one figured out. The ANPRC-150 is the ‘prick’ radio used for commo in Vietnam.

The FRC he uses is for ‘frick’, which is another way to say ‘friction’, which is defined as ‘rubbing two surfaces together to create heat and possibly fire’.

I am disappointed that he did not use the FRAK-14 nomenclature.

Hondo

That’s the vehicular mounting kit. (smile)

GDContractor

I just had a chance to circle back…. he misspelled “Candidate” twice!

“NOTHING TO FOLLOWS” qty. 2, is a nice touch.

Ex-PH2

Are you sure that’s three weeks?

It would take at least 8 weeks to simply convince me to jump out of a perfectly good airplane!

IDC SARC

yes, three looong weeks of mostly standing in lines, standing around, shuffling in formation, falling awkwardly from various trivial heights to practice landings and finally in the 3rd week while that is still going on you get about 10 minutes of hangtime during your five jumps.lol

That’s how it went at Benning anyway.

LD Jeffries

2 days of training crammed into 3 long weeks.

nousdefions

For the last time: There is no such thing as a perfectly good airplane….

Hondo

. . . as anyone who’s ever taken off in a C-123 will tell you. (smile)

Sj

Or 119’s

AW1Ed

Used to do it all the time, Ex. I had every intention of getting back into that airplane, and I never used a parachute.

Poohbah, Lord High Everything Else

1. It’s “candidate,” as observed elsewhere; and…
2. The USAF sends its prospective butterbars to Officer TRAINING School.

AJ

Not to mention the DD214 lists him as SSG/E6 right at the top. Doesn’t gel with his story of being a captain.

OldSarge57

Isn’t a SSGT in the Air Force an E-5?

GDContractor
Pam

Yes.

Haywire Angel

He must think he was in the Army for awhile. A SSG is an E6 for them. What a tool.

http://www.army.mil/symbols/armyranks.html

IDC SARC

It’s the same in the Marine Corps as well (E-6)

Jessica an actual veteran

I actually know this guy’s ex-wife. He is a real POS. He lies about everything. Too bad a bunch of real veterans couldn’t get together and give this guy a blanket party! I should post his address.

LEO

I would love for you to post his address.

If you personally know him how come he is just now getting called out for his pathetic facade?!

I feel sorry for his kid, sociopathic tendencies could be genetic.

OldSarge57

This 214 is supposedly to show him being discharged as enlisted to accept a commission. Wonder how long it took him to make this stuff up? None of these idiots bother researching their lies. Guess the lack of spelling ability and computer skills gets them every time!

Bobo

If you’d like someone else with you, let me know. I could use a few hours on the road to clear my head. I probably know less about DD-214s than you do, but I might be able to provide some kind of help. All in all, my VA carry permit is still good in WV.

Enigma4you

Me and bobo can come and make a day of it, cigars, John Wayne movies and Fakers

Bobo

Let me know when and where. If he only brings one, he’ll be horribly out gunned. I’ll just toss my range bag in the trunk.

GDContractor

I think you guys should send the Whipples a pre-programmed GPS. Based on the stupidity exhibited in forging a DD-214, I suspect they can’t collectively navigate beyond the local Wal-Mart. Might send the Mrs. a fruit basket as well to compensate for the loss of the USAF CAPT pension she thought she married into.

B Woodman

I’ll betcha a dollar to a dozen Dunkin’ Doughnuts, that if they even DID show up at the Jonn domicile, and Jonn (and company) decided to practice the Four Esses (Suppressor, Shoot, Shovel, Silence) – that no one would care, no one would miss the Whipples.

Ex-PH2

Wear some armor, will ya? This guy comes off as a nutblob.

Hide the rum and cigars, too.

Jessica an actual veteran

He is a nation. He lied for years to his ex-wife. Even lied to her about his age. There are pics of him at the hospital at the birth of his son wearing his “uniform” lol

Jessica an actual veteran

Lol it wouldn’t let me type ***nutjob***!!!

A Proud Infidel®™

Yeah, that auto-correct can be a real mother forklift from time to time! 😀

Jessica an actual veteran

Lol it sure is!

Instinct

To quote a true patriot: “I say, I say, that boy’s about as sharp as a bowling ball”

B Woodman

I wonder what Mrs Whipple looks like? Did they BOTH squeeze the Charmin?

And I’ll bet that if you even just scratch the surface, there’s other skullduggery with both of them. . . where there’s Stolen Valor smoke, there’s got to be other crime fires not too far behind.

Marine_7002

BW: spd0302 pointed out that Dipshit Whipple is indeed a convicted bum, he pled guilty to two charges involving firearms.

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Michigan/Jackson-County-MI/Lance-Allan-Whipple.89072243.html

Real stellar history you have there, Mr. Whipple.

Ex-PH2

But… but… but he’s got a GUNNZZ! If he can’t have one, how did he get one?

I’m so confused!

Jessica an actual veteran

He has a tattoo of a fake unit that he made up himself!

JohnE

So whats the over/under on this unit being secret skwirrel/G14 classified so highly that he would have to kill himself if he even thought about it?

LEO

Why don’t we leave his poor wife out of this. Clearly he has a history of lying to wives. I’m willing to bet that she is just guilty of being a huge pushover and believing this dumbass.

Eden

His wife is apparently the driving force behind his douchebaggery.

Marine_7002

Dipshit Whipple can’t spell “paramedic” correctly, either. See Block 13 on Page 2.

Can’t be one if you can’t spell it correctly.

Lance, you need to see Forgin’ Frank Visconi next time you want to create a fake DD214. As low as his standards are, he’d at least give you a document that had everything spelled correctly.

Peter the Bubblehead

Before I joined the Navy I could not spell tek-ni-shun. Now I are one!

Silentium Est Aureum

Spoken like a true MT. I’d say HT, but they don’t have them on boats, unless they came down from the welding shop.

Peter the Bubblehead

ET-NAV actually.

Bobo

Stop mocking the missile techs. We tend to make those we don’t like miserable.

Silentium Est Aureum

Or take shower videos of the ones they do.

IDC SARC

OK..I don’t know everything about all branches, but “paramedic badge”, fo realz?

I don’t know of any DoD authorized paramedic badge and I don’t see such a badge described on the interwebz.

Enlighten me if I’m wrong please.

Currahee John

I believe the confused lad was trying to type, “Pararescue Badge,” but couldn’t remember exactly what it is he was trying to claim that he had. The only civilian “paramedic badge” that I know of is a small rectangular badge that said, unexpectedly, “paramedic,” which many of us wore back in the day to explain the less-well known “AEMT-P” on our certification patch.

IDC SARC

Yeah, there’s lots of civilian paramedic pins patches and badges, but all the SOF medics get paramedic qualified during training,but I’ve never seen a military authorized badge for it. I’m still current on my NREMT-P certification just because my job makes it easy to do so.

There’s a civilian tactical medic badge out there right now that looks reedonkulously like a budweiser.

Marine_7002
Hondo

Great – seems we have a felon who’s reputed to still carry concealed.

MrBill

Hmm…could presenting a forged DD214 be considered a violation of the terms of his probation?

Hondo

This layman would think so.

One of the terms of his probation is to refrain from illegal activity. And it appears that possessing or presenting a forged, counterfeit, or altered DD214 is a violation of Federal law.

It would also seem that he’s required to seek permission to take any trips outside MI as another condition of his probation.

HMCS (FMF) ret.

Until January 13, 2016 – the day his probation ends…

I’d bet you that his PO would love to get some intel about the activities of one of his wards… especially one that is about 2 weeks out from ending his probation. And I’m sure that there is a judge that would love to rehear his case again and be very interested in looking at both of his 214’s… maybe there is some jail time that could be invoked as violating his probation?

Birdie

Jackson County, Michigan court page has his probate hearing information.

Contact The Honorable Susan Be bee’s office phone and emails to three contacts there.

GDContractor

Probate?

Sentencing hearing. Judge Bebee.
Dude was sentenced to 90 days in jail plus a year of probation.
http://50.200.246.163/c12/c12_cases_detail.php?caseno=14004996+FH+38&path=2&SID/

As mentioned earlier, his probation period ends in Jan 2016. His next sentencing hearing is 01/13/2016 830A.

Here come the judge:
http://www.co.jackson.mi.us/county_courts/honorable_susan_beebe/index.asp

GDContractor

Given the terms of his supervision/probation, this jackwagon cannot leave the state without permission. And because of the entry “alcohol testing”, I wonder if he should be in bars in uniform scamming free drinks.

If he want to go to WV, maybe someone should call his PO and grease the skids.

UpNorth

One of the conditions of his probation is to “not use/possess alcohol or intoxicants”.

If anyone else would like to contact Mr. Whipple’s probation officer, his name is Agent Allen, his email address is:
allenw2 at michigan.gov. with the usual @ in place of at.
I’ve sent a synopsis of the stories on this turd, with links to the two threads on him here at TAH.

CWORet

Oh my. So close to the end of supervised probation and he’s curb stomping his own junk. Usually, after a few months, with good behavior and such they are pretty much left alone. Unless something pops the radar. I believe this something pops the radar…

Hondo

Jonn already commented on the 2P reenlistment code being for DFR. Regarding his SPD code, that’s consistent – and isn’t what you’d see for either an honorable discharge or a retirement. His SPD code is either KFU or KFV (it’s not that clear). KFU doesn’t seem to exist; KFV is “Unqualified for Active Duty – Other”, which is consistent with someone who’s been DFR for desertion.

Stick Stickly

Hondo, I have an idea of the the “FU” means in KFU…

Poohbah, Lord High Everything Else

KFU = Kindly F*** Off (o8

MSGRetired

I wouldn’t worry about the Load even showing up Jonn.. Now his wife might show up and brow beat you lol ..

Eggs

I’ve never seen entries in the decorations block listed in columns – decorations are listed beginning with highest precedence first separated by commas.

MrBill

Two of my 214s, from 1990 and 1994, both used the 1988 version of the form.

Silentium Est Aureum

Same with mine, still later than yours.

Brown Neck Gaitor

My last DD-214 was 04May98 and it still used the ’88 form..

rgr1480

My third DD214 was issued in 1994 (lower left corner) — and it was the NOV 88 version.
Hey! I think I’m perceiving a trend here…….

Second one was the 1 JUL 79 (upper left corner) version.

My first one was issued in 1978 and was the 1 NOV 72 (lower left corner) version.

Hondo

Yep. Pretty sure the Nov 1988 DD214 was the effective version until the form changed in Feb 2000. It’s changed yet again since.

Airdale USN

Yep, that what mines say Feb. 2000 previous editions is obsolete.

Skippy

Hondo. my 214 says AUG 2009 and on center it says previous edition is obsolete
is being my last one I got with my retirement in May of 2013. I have three others,
one from 2006 and 2008

Hondo

Yep. Aug 2009 was the time it “changed yet again” I referred to above. (smile)

3E9

Those 214’s are FUBARed. I have one from 04 and another from 13, both Air Force (Reserve) and they don’t look anything like that. I trust the ones he presented about as much as I do a fart when I have the flu.

Bill M

“I trust the ones he presented about as much as I do a fart when I have the flu”

You’d think by now I’d know to not drink a cup of coffee while reading these comments.

Skippy

BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….
and that’s saying it nicely:)

IDC SARC

There’s just so many things wrong with that DD214 it’s not worth the time to list them.

and 12 months Paramedic training…There’s no date, but when PJs used to go through the SOCM course at JSOMTC(A) it only took a fraction of the 26 week course before they took the NREMT-P exam. Da fukk was he doing for a year?

There’s so many missing where and whens on this document, that it’s laughable.

OIF '06-'07-'08

Do we have someone that is bucking for a membership into the DRC?

IDC SARC

ADDENDUM:Even now since PJs took their medical program out of the SWCS/JSOMTC arena and shipped it to NM, the medical portion is only 22 weeks.

https://www.pararescue.com/recruiting/the-pipeline

IDC SARC

That’s true…wells fargo holds my mortgage, but I still refer to it as a VA loan…ask her who she makes the check out to, if she says its the VA then yeah she’s FOS

Twist

Wells Fargo also holds my mortgage and I still refer to it as a VA loan also.

Skippy

I wish I had a mortgage, but the house is paid for already Lol…

CWORet

Why hell would you wish for a mortgage? Sighs… mine should be paid off in two years max. I always referred to mine as a VA loan too, but subsequent re-fi’s got rid of the VA guarantee part. The VA loan is a helluva great deal for first time homebuyers. My niece and nephew are paying right at $300 per month for PMI. Quite the rip off PMI is.

Silentium Est Aureum

And he didn’t serve 181+ days on AD.

Hmmmmmm…fraud, anyone?

IDC SARC

fraud and whoever took that DD214 at the VA Office and approved the loan needs some retraining.

OldSarge57

VA agencies are not required to validate DD-214’s. If a veteran supplies the documentation, that’s good enough unless you have someone who really knows what they are looking at. I really think that has to change, but adding that additional layer will delay processing claims. As usual those who truly deserve it are getting hosed by the posers and ones who know how to manipulate the system. The ones who scream loudest and advertise most tend to arouse my suspicion.

In this situation it appears there may be a whole lot of fraud going on. Would like to know if he is getting other VA benefits. Regardless, you can bet he’ll start throwing PTSD or MST around.

It’s possible his wife doesn’t have a clue since he wore his uniform when they were married. Where have we seen this before? I am impressed how his fruit salad has exponentially grown since then.

IDC SARC

well ho lee fukk…they made me physically go to Winston Salem to take them a DD214 in ’06…now the first time I used the benefit in the early 80’s they didn’t. I don’t see what the point of all that formality is if they don’t even check for any authenticity.

Carlton G. Long

Just like the cashiers who hold up a $100 bill to the light…as if they even knew what they were looking for.

OC

IDC, I applied for my first VA loan about 40 years ago and I honestly can’t recall if I had to supply my DD214. Has it always been required?

Twist

I just got mine last year and had to supply my retirement orders.

UpNorth

I had to supply my 214 when I got my VA loan. That was a few years ago.. 🙂

OldSarge57

It’s gotten so bad with the forged 214’s that Army HRC won’t accept them as proof of actual service. I had to get official copies of my pay records from DFAS to validate my last 214 for retirement pay purposes. The VA does not require that level of confirmation. I do remember getting an official VA certificate for my first house in 1988. It was about 5 x 7, green, and actually attached to the loan documents.

Skippy

and that is the way it works but the lender also verifies with the VBA
before making a home loan on top of documents you provide. there is no way in hell Lol… a Bank would loan any of us money without verification from the VBA also my banker who I was on the phone with said people don’t quite understand the background on verifying loans 🙂

Skippy

there is a lot more then just your local VA office to get a VA Loan

IDC SARC

not that much really…I don’t know what you’re implying if anything, but I’ve already done it twice.

IDC SARC

lol…I even did a refi. That was the easiest thing ever, no inspection/appraisal and they drove out here with the documents for my sig. All I had to show was an ID.

Skippy

a VA Loan is basically the government promising to cover your loan if one should not repay the loan back, me taking my 214 to my local bank does not guarantee me a home loan, the lending institution has to first check and verify
that you are a vet in the VBA system in the first place, that is usually done with a first time mortgages in the back office through the TERS system… I hope I’m saying that right. Lol…. now on a refi I don’t know but the fact that the loan is already backed by uncle sams promise to cover then I would think it redundant to verify again.. I’m just guessing

CWORet

So now we have forged documents on top of VA fraud while on active probation for weapons charges. He better HOPE he doesn’t have a VA loan (guarantee). This fucker’s hole is getting deep. There’s people above already emailing his probation officer. He is fuckity-fuck-fucked.

Skippy

Jonn as you may know in order to get a VA Loan there is a verification letter that the bank gets from the VA. a VA Loan is backed by the VA in case of default there story would be easy to verify by loan documents and the VA letter from what I would believe to be from VBA outside of comp and pen. folks.

TheCloser

Is she wondering where his retirement check from 31 years of service is going?

A Proud Infidel®™

Has he launched the “lawer up” balloon yet? I wonder if he hasn’t gotten in touch with the legal wizard of the Dutch Rudder Gang, the one that acts like he’s a clone of Fred Phelps? What a worthless babbling bucket of roach turds and smegma from an inbred buck-toothed Swamp Donkey! This Santorum-stained dingleberry is a convicted felon and says he carries? Another felony right there.

Marine_7002

And if MSP processed that report properly, they wrote it on toilet paper. Wouldn’t that be appropriate? heh

NR Pax

Now that’s just adorable. Wonder how the cops kept from laughing.

OIF '06-'07-'08

Damn, maybe him and Denny Chevalier are best of buds.

Ex-PH2

You mean, he got his feewings hurt because don’t nobody believe him?

Awww… shux!

Roger in Republic

It is too bad that they don’t make BandAids for feelings!

Eden

No BandAids for hurt feelings? Then just what DO they do with those “Hurt Feelings Reports” that you file?

Hondo

O&M funds are tight. I bet they work in a pinch for TP. (smile)

LIRight

That’s as good as writing a parking ticket by a NY cop for illegally parking on a street in WV.

So freaking dumb. A stick has a higher IQ.

A Proud Infidel®™

WHAT did Whipple file with the Michigan State Police, a DA FORM IMT WF1, a Hurt Feelings Report? 😀

HMCS (FMF) ret.

He whipped out his “stress card”…

Sandman

I love the fact that he presented 2 different 214s, but both of them have the same RE code of AWOL/Deserter.

Dapandico

Fairt Rooker wasn’t squeezing the Charmin he was sniffing it.

Hondo

Before or after someone used it?

Bobo

Date of service on his officer DD-214 isn’t consistent with his end of service on his enlisted DD-214. Awarded the Armed Forces Reserve Medal with “M” device despite DD-214 stating that he was RC.

Hondo

After looking at those “DD214s”, for some reason the term “football bat” comes to mind.

A Proud Infidel®™

It’s quite obvious that Lance Whipple has NEVER let any brains get to his head!! 😀

Marine_7002

I looked on the Michigan DOC web page for the Lansing-area office, they don’t have an email address but they have a phone and fax. I don’t have access to a fax machine right now, would someone be willing to fax this blog page and the previous one to them?

(517) 483-6100
(517) 483-6143 FAX

UpNorth

I emailed his P.O., Marine. His P.O.’s email is:Agent Allen
allenw2 at michigan.gov with @ in place of “at”. I sent him the links to this thread and the other one.

Marine_7002

Sierra Hotel, UpNorth. I drive past Jackson from time to time on my way to Grand Rapids, I’m hoping I can give him a one-finger salute some day as I’m passing the vicinity of the prison.

UpNorth

I would think that, if the Good Lord willing, he’ll end up in one of the fine establishments in either Carson City Correctional or one of the four prisons around Ionia. Then I can take a short ride and flip him off almost any day I like.
If you ever travel through Greenville, give me heads-up, we can have a cup of coffee.

Fjardeson

Those have to be the worst DD214 fakes I’ve ever seen. Mixing fonts, misaligned type, background shading off, numerous spelling errors… Modern DD214’s are all computer issued, and you can’t make a computer spit out a document that looks like that!

Enigma4you

Service 7 copy , not member 4 .
I had a person that looks at hundreds of dd214s a month look at it, built shit flag went up on several counts.

Peter the Bubblehead

Looks nothing like my DD-214 form, and I separated from the Navy in 2004.

Green Thumb

Extra shitbag.

Green Thumb

Reposted:

The opening sentence of their (his Commander’s Club) vision statement: “The Commanders Club of Michigan shall be an organization for men and women of quality”.

I guess they “missed the boat” on this clown.

ChipNASA

Hey Lance,
A *REAL* Senior Master Sergeant, E-8 SMSgt, says…
*Go. Get. Your. F*UCKING. Shine. Box. You. Pussy. Shithead.

Claw

Wait, what, did Lance somehow take a trip in the way back when time machine?

Is that a Korea Service Medal/Ribbon I see on his make believe nine row ribbon rack?

First inboard ribbon, bottom row.

TheCloser

Add some leather work gloves to those ‘Commanders’ and it would be the nautical version of the Odd Fellows.

BTW, that Army Good Conduct is a must have for all retired AF Captains /sarc

Dennis - not chevy

The Air Force Good Conduct Medal was first awarded in 1963, before this guy’s 3rd birthday. Before 1 June 1963 the Good Conduct Medal was awarded. There have been occasions of the medal being awarded before three years of enlisted duty were up. For example, I met a USAFA Cadet sporting one that was awarded when she was accepted at the academy after about two years of active duty.
So, either this guy took the oath of enlistment in utero; or, he did so well at potty training he was accepted in a commissioning program and was awarded the GCM.

Bobo

It looks like he’s one of the directors. The page was nice enough to provide a contacts page, and the name of the CoC. It looks like it’s affiliated in some way with the state militia, and have the Michigan governor and TAG in the CoC.

OldSarge57

Yeah. I checked out their website, too. They have some actual veterans as members, but it’s not a requirement for membership. I thought the photo of the guy in uniform with his hands in his pockets was classic. Based on the fact there ARE veterans in that organization you would have thought someone would have noticed something was amiss. Although, they also have their own awards so I’m guessing that massive hero rack includes a few rows of those.

UpNorth

If you search Bing or Google, and go to their page, you can find a “Contact Us” link. I sent them a brief run-down on their “esteemed” member. Along with links to the two threads here and his page at the Michigan Department of Corrections.
One of the members is a retired Lt. of the Michigan State Police, that I happen to know. I hope the email gets to him, and whoever is supposed to do their background checks.

A Proud Infidel®™

Something tells me that only the surface has been scratched so far and I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns out to be dirtier than a wicker toilet seat!

Claw

Yeah, my guess is that Sir “Lance”alot here has pretty well “blown” his chances of becoming the Commander in Chief of the Commander’s Club.

Back to the paper and toiletries aisle at the local A&P for you, Mr. Whipple. You can start again from the bottom of the pecking order and don’t forget to “squeeze the Charmins” of those ahead of you.

Guard Bum

To add, with over 6 years enlisted time his officer rank would have been O3E not O3.

This dumb ass would fuck up a wet dream.

A Proud Infidel®™

Maybe he was accepted into that club only because they wanted someone to snub?

Doc Savage

I retired in 2008…….My 214 must be totally broke, ’cause his is really awesome to look at…..font, misspellings, alignment, date math is jacked up…..did his wife do this?

Dennis - not chevy

Let’s see; OCS in the Air Force is OTS and the AF does not have a 3 week PME course. If you’re going to make stuff up; make stuff up big or stay home.

Bobo

Just pulled up my DD-214 from retirement. It’s electronic, on a form from 2009 (so I’m assuming that his 2010 retirement should be the same). Also, my block 23 doesn’t say “DISCHARGE” and my block 28 doesn’t say “RETIREMENT”. Interestingly, the first awards lists in my awards block are my ICM and ACM, followed by my decorations.

SFC D

Concur, Bobo. Mine is exactly the same, right down to the ICM and ACM.

Skippy

and as I wrote above I concur also friend from up north just saw this and said the whole thing is fake and the alpha code is F$&)( B$$
so I hope that helps Lol…

A Proud Infidel®™

Something tells me that only the surface has been scratched so far, I wonder what will pop up next?

Jared

1T2X1 is the AFSC for pararescue,
Officer AFSCs are not 5 characters but 3. Combat Rescue Officers are 13D

SFC D

His AFSC is 1D10T

Holden Magroin

It appears that Mr Whipple has “the tattoo” as well…from the mugshot site:

Tattoo- Upper Left Shoulder – Image of two feet w/lightning bold (USAF)

which is likely this: http://www.cafepress.com/+green_feet_2_pj_patches,757213693

JohnE

Paging JohCa…JohCa to the white courtesy phone…

Carlton G. Long

His dad used to tell people not to squeeze the Charmin.

OldSarge57

Dammit! If I knew it was this easy I would have appointed myself a Colonel 25 years ago. I feel like such an underachiever.

spd0302

I have stopped trying to understand the mentality behind what these douche lords are thinking when they bullshit to the extreme level.
What I do want to understand….
Once caught, what makes them think doubling down will help them? Minimal research would show the shitbirds who gets the most “love and attention.”
Once a pussy bullshitter, always a pussy bullshitter I guess.

A Proud Infidel®™

Maybe he takes advice from The Dutch Rudder Gang?

Arby

On the second page of the DD-214 he gets the AFSC wrong. A primary Air Force Specialty Code (MOS) without a prefix or suffix for an officer is four characters. The first character is a number signifying the family the AFSC belongs to (1 = operations, 4 = medical, 6 = Acquisiton/ Scientific, etc.). The second character is also a number which further delineates the family (10 = Commander, 11= sky god, etc.). Third character is breaks it down further (11F fighters, 11B bombers, etc.). The last character is a number 1 – 4 that indicates experience level. The AFSC on this idiot’s form is five numbers which would make it an enlisted AFSC of the type used before they changed it in the mid 90s.

The AFSC on the first page is also wrong. It is 1R251, an AFSC that was not in existence when he got out in 1990 for the first time.

Finally, the authority cited on both pages is AFR 39-10. The Air Force replaced all of its Regulations with Air Force Instructions in the 93-94 time frame. So, the second page should have cited an AFI, not an AFR.

LD Jeffries

This is what a real PJ’s DD-214 looks like.
DD-214

DD-214-1

IDC SARC

I’m not trying to skyline you LD…but ya might wanna get admin to take that down for a more thorough scrubbing

Claw

Roger that.

Full SSAN disclosure on the continuation sheet.

OldSarge57

Way too much PII! Of course I got my OPM letter telling me everything including my fingerprints and entire SF86 was compromised, so good luck. That’s the goofiest font I’ve seen on a DD-214, though. Insert AF joke here.

Mike W

An airman in a bar leans over to the guy next to him and says, “Wanna hear a MARINE joke?”

The guy next to him replies, “Well, before you tell that joke, you should know something. I’m 6′ tall, 200 lbs, and I’m a MARINE. The guy sitting next to me is 6’2″ tall, weighs 225, and he’s a MARINE. The fella next to him is 6’5″ tall, weighs 250, and he’s also a MARINE. Now, you still wanna tell that joke?”

The Airman says, “Nah, I don’t want to have to explain it three times.”

IDC SARC

Q: What do you do when an Air Force guy throws a grenade at you?

A: Pick it up, pull the pin and throw it back at him.

..all in fun

IDC SARC

gotta laugh. look at pg2 ….seems like the word Arctic trips up the admin types every time.

Hondo

Images have been disabled until they can be scrubbed for PII. I’ll let Jonn know.

Claw

Reference the time spent on active duty from his FOIA.

10 September 1979 to 15 October 1979. 35 days total.

Sounds just about the total elapsed time I spent on one of my first Fort Irwin/NTC rotations while on Fort Carson working as the Battalion Maintenance section clerk/driver.

Ah, the good old days. Back when we convoyed our wheeled vehicles from FCC to the NTC using the southern route. Lots of breakdowns, re-hauls, C-Rations on the go, etc. Not to mention the fun times spent trying to sleep in the cab of a M54 series 5 Ton wrecker or in the back seat area of a M151A1 Jeep.

OldSarge57

It was NTC then? I don’t remember when it transitioned, but when we went there from Fort Ord with the 7th in ’78, it was still Camp Irwin. When I got back from Germany in ’80 and was assigned to Fort Carson we went to Camp Guernsey, Wy. Either way, those trips on the freeways in Jeeps was a lot of fun! Damn canvas would beat the poor guy in back half to death. Not to mention going deaf from the noise.

Claw

OldSarge, the all knowing(?) WIKI says on 9 Aug 79 Camp/Fort Irwin was selected as the site for NTC. First rotation using OPFOR occurred 1 Aug-14 Sep 79.

NTC officially activated 16 Oct 80 and Ft. Irwin returned to active status 1 July 81.

I can’t remember exactly when my outfit did our first run out to there, probably in 1980 sometime. I did one more trip in 1981 before I went to Germany in the fall and upon returning to Carson went four more times after that until I retired in Dec 1991. Our (1st Brigade, 4th Inf Div) last rotation out there from Aug-Sep 91 was done with M113’s/M60’s and we were told that was the last active duty rotation to use the “old style” equipment.

Coupled with the NTC trips, not to mention the Pinon Canyon Manuever Site prep rotations that started in 1985, we were off and gone quite a bit. Also throw in the normal fall or winter REFORGER trips during that period and sometimes you never knew whether you were coming or going.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Got there from Germany in Nov 85 and started hitting the NTC rotations from Carson in early 86. We would rail-load our vehicles out there and take a bus to Yermo(?) to pick them up. The Brigade would fall in on prepositioned tracked vehicles instead of rail-loading those. We always got stuck with washrack duty at the end of the rotations since we only had a half dozen jeeps and trailers and one 2 1/2 ton. No windshields, tops, doors or backseats in the jeeps-put a smoke generator in the back instead. Even had the old-fashion wire cutters welded to the front bumpers.

Yep. Good times.

Claw

Now see,nbcguy, if you had got to Carson in Nov 84 instead of a year later, you could have went on that lovely winter REFORGER in Jan 85 with the rest of us.

I flew out of Pete Field on the pre-pre advance party the day after Christmas for that Charlie Foxtrot we spent dashing through the snow during the worst winter Europe had seen in a few decades.

Yep, a really good time was had by all.

Claw

But, on second thought, if you were in Germany up until Nov 85, you probably lived through that 84-85 winter while there.

Lots and lots of snow, especially up in the north were our maneuver areas were and in Holland where we drew and returned the CEGE site equipment.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Yep. Got my first AAM for that REFORGER. I was with the AVN Squadron of the 11 ACR then. Because of ice fog during the first couple of days, our birds couldn’t launch. I saw M1 tanks rolling across plowed fields and not even leaving track marks. It was damn cold!!

OldSarge57

Sorry. I could have looked it up, but let you do it instead. All knowing? Good grief… you’re my wife!

OldSarge57

Oh..Sorry. You meant Wiki is all knowing. Senior moment. Doh!

Claw

It’s all good. I have those senior moments myself.

But when those moments turn into hours and the hours then into days, then we are in real trouble.

But sometimes a little CRS turns into a good thing, especially when it concerns the wife’s honey do list.

AskAMarine

Did anyone noticed his SGLI amounts on both “DD 214s”?

They both have the amount of $20K. That amount was valid in 1974.

However, it has increased in the years.

In 1981, it was $35K.

In 1986, it was $50K.

In 1991, it was $100K.

In 1996, it was $200K.

In 2001, it was $250K.

In 2010, it was $400K.

Lance Whipple, please explain why your SGLI on both DD 214s read $20K.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

I think it was 20K when I went in in 1980.

CA_SGT

Only the maximum increased even up to 2013 (when I was retired) you could choose to select nothing at all or $10k-$400k in $10k increments, so technically he could have it stay at $20k regardless.

Skippy

right on the money with that Lol….

AskAMarine

Hmmmmmm…..could have sworn Visconi lived in Michigan for a while and even went to High School there…….

Sandman

Do you suppose this cat thought that no one hear had ever seen a 214 before, and thought that we are all ignorant, and wouldn’t pick up on all the mistakes?

Sandman

here*

Jessica an actual veteran

Lol you are right on the money with the sociopath label. He has been pretending to be in the military for atleast 17 years. He wears his “uniform” to the bars. Or he used to.

Claw

Either that or he is just utilizing TAH as a “quality control check” to correct his mistakes and will come up with better DD214 forgeries later on when he thinks the heat is off.

But things don’t work that way, Mr. Whipple. The interwebz is forever and we all know who you are and will never forget.

IDC SARC

Maybe it’s a diversion. Watch your flank.

Hack Stone

Like the state legislater caught in an affair, then try to start a rumor that he was gay so that he could disprove it?

Hack Stone

Well, to be fair, he didn’t catch them either.

GDContractor

Compare this jackass’s enlisted (SSGT E6) DD-214 to this one here:
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?attachment_id=61235
Which presumably is authentic, as it came from NPRC.

Notice the S/N down in the bottom left corner. It is a match. From what I can tell, forms with different revision dates have different S/N’s. My guess is that he used a form revision from 1 Jul 79 and altered it, but I am willing to have Frank Visconi tell me I am an idiot.

FWIW, Jerry Vroombout used the same form revision http://valorguardians.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Jerry-Fake-DD214.jpg

streetsweeper

Lower right corner should be stamped by NPRC in house notary seal.

Green Thumb

I wonder how this clown got caught?

It seems he has been playing “hero” for a long time.

I guess the need for free drinks and “atta boys” finally caught up with him.

They should make this maggot visit real service members in the hospital.

Assclown.

Jessica an actual veteran

He should have to work with injured soldiers for a year atleast. But then again he would probably just get info from them to use in the future. Sick pig!

Hack Stone

Whipple will cometh, and he won’t be coming alone. He is bringing his posse. Prepare to face off with Josephine The Plumber, Madge The Manicurist, and the most feared, The Tidy Bowl Man. You have been warned.

JohnE

Don’t forget the leadership group, Col Sanders and Capt Crunch…

Hack Stone

At least we have The Man From Glad on our side. I never could figure out what a man with a rocket pod had to do with sandwich bags, but then again, I do not have superior Nordic genes.

Green Thumb

All “Less-than-Super Heroes” who’s home base is All-Points Logistics in Merritt Island, Florida.

HMCS (FMF) ret.

You forgot Mr. Clean and the Maytag Repairman…

Hack Stone

I did not forget Mr. Clean and/or The Maytag Repairman. In the interest of national security, their names have been redacted from all official files. These guys are serious Black Ops. The Maytag Repairman dispatches people with what he calls the “spin cycle”, then Mr. Clean disposes of the remains.