Frank Joseph Visconi, according to Scotty, had a perfectly honorable career in the Vietnam War as a supply clerk and he was honorably discharged as a sergeant with the following DD214;
With the following rack;
But, that wasn’t good enough when he became the Sr. Vice Commandant of Marine Corps League Chapter #603 – James McCutchen Detachment in Clarksville, TN. The he joined the “Together We Served” website and decided that his rack needed some punching up;
Somewhere along the way, he got himself some certificates for a Bronze Star Medal for Valor and a Purple Heart that he also posted. When people started questioning him, he simply took down his profile and dashed. At Scotty’s he has two DD215s which correct his social security number and some unit commendations. Neither of the DD215s mention two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star or a Combat Action Ribbon.
The story about the rank difference is a good one, too, better when told by Scotty, so shoot over and visit him.
Category: Phony soldiers
Much coffee needed.
For some reason the last little bit didn’t all sink in when I first skimmed the home page. All that stuck was that he was claiming he was a “Senior Vice Commandant of the Marine Corps.”
Oh well … I got it now.
Another perfectly good term of service ruined by ego and hubris.
When Mr. Visconti served his RVN tour he probably lived in a plywood hooch, stopped at EM club after “work” for a few beers with his buddies. Sometimes he pulled guard duty on the perimeter depending on the size of the base. The PX size depended on the size of the base as well. All in all a life rather boring with the occasional excitement of a rocket attack or during Tet being over run by NVA.if he was near a Med Battallion he would be aware of the helicopters unloading the mangled grunts for triage or perhaps he had to walk by Graves Registration and see young Marines stacked like firewood.
Every Marine has a job to do and they serve honorably when they do it well.
No, it was mostly tents at Chu Lai.
But don’t you just wonder if Frankie-boi went to that beach party at No Dang Twat?
Maybe he hung out a lot at No Poon Tang Beach near Chieu Hoi?
Sorry, I didn’t finish the above post. Typing wasn’t my primary MOS. To continue.
Mr. V probably served honorably but as he gets older he wonders how he would have fared as a grunt. Perhaps even feels a little guilt knowing how derisive grunts were of “F**cking Pogues”. I always felt grunt criticism was was unfair but understandable. It also bonded the men together in an “us against them way”. I meet a lot of men like Mr.V. I’m much kinder now than I used to be. He deserves to be called out because he makes these claims public. Generally I encounter embellishers in casual conversations and make them squirm by asking a few pointed questions ‘ about their MOS or NVA weoponry. It is pretty easy to embarrass them.
Everyone wants to a hero. Not everyone can be but we can all choose to act honorably.
That last line says it all.
Taurus USMC 0302 I agree with NHSparky. Your last line says it all very well. Too bad a guy has to do this to himself and…the Marines who were grunts. Thank you for serving Taurus USMC 0302.
Sorry, no plywood hooches and definately NO EM club. Apparently you were not there in the early days where we had to “make do”. There was no supply or even hospitals in Chu Lai then. Just aid stations. If you required serious medical treatment you were evaced to Danang or a hospital ship or somewhere else.
If you’re assigned as a supply clerk in Vietnam, be the best fucking supply clerk you can possibly be to support the grunts; if you’re assigned as a combat historian in Iraq, be the best fucking combat historian you can possibly be to record the history of the war for the grunts. Lying/embellishing about what you did and earned in the combat zone won’t cut it; the truth will always will out…;
Combat Historian Here-Here!
To even the scale of justice I’m going to have now pose as a supply clerks and not mention my stack.
What a dickbutt.
Did this turd get booted out of the Marine Corps league yet?
I was 0311 MOS trained, assigned to 2nd RECON BN, Amphib Recon school graduate, tasked as Company Supply Clerk and hating life just prior to ETS.
No Vice Cdr of local Marine League for me…
The only thing this dude supplied was a hole in which to deposit semen.
Just saying.
I read his service time in RVN. A “buddy” of mine who passed away last year served during the same time frame (1966). He was awarded the same medals as Visconti claims- a Bronze (V) and Purple Heart and was awarded other medals (SS, AMs w V, DFC etc). This pisses me off.
Another PHONEY PHUCK.
When I started on my first ship out of school, I asked the Master on my discharge date for parting advice on how to do my job better in the future, based on his observations of a green officer. All he said was “wake up every day and be the best damn Mike you can be. That’s all anyone can do.”
Never forgot that advice. I still wake up every day with that in mind.
Taurus’ closing sentence reminded me of that.
I thought more about my earlier comment that perhaps he wondered how he would have fared as a grunt. The irony is that he probably would have done well. He was just dealt different cards to play. On the occasions we went to the rear I would address the platoon about how to behave. I explained how we were all part of the same team. Without supply there would be no resupply of ammo or C-rats, etc. Without clerks there would be no pay checks or orders typed for R&R. They did not have fight everyone that looked at them the wrong way.Of course it was a futile exercise because someone would get in a fight at the EM club anyway.
Whenever someone reported in I would I would give them a welcome aboard talk. A replacement Marine arrived who felt that a mistake had been made in his orders. He was obviously relieved to meet the person in authority (me) who could straighten it out. His MOS was 01 (Admin Clerk) but had been sent to a rifle platoon by mistake. As a seasoned 22 year old Infantry Officer I was able to deliver a line worthy of Jack Nicholson, “Son, my Marine Corps doesn’t make mistakes”. Still one of the high points of my tour. I still remember the look on his face. He turned out to be an outstanding rifleman and eventually a fire team leader. He was a Marine. That’s why I feel sorry for Mr. V. He should be proud of having played the hand he was dealt not pretending to be something he wasn’t.
I haveno issues with a supply clerk being assigned to an air crew to act as a doorguner.
HOWEVER, the assignement would not last two days. It would be ‘for the duration’. And if he was a good doorgunner (meaning he didn’t get shot and killed) it’s more than likely that he’d continue in that role as long as he was over there.
Can’t get my head around why he thought he had to embelish his service. Has he been rocking the lie anymore since he was called out on TWS?
Bringing this story out on the internet has caused Mr. Visconi to threaten once again to file charges against me. He had the opportunity in 2010 to appoligize for his phony BS and PHs, but chose instead to sue the United States and the Bureau of Correction of Naval Records (BCNR). He also sued the POWNetwork, Chuck and Mary Schantag, and Samuel Killeffer for Defamation and False Light Invasion of Privacy.
It is amazing the lengths that he went to in atempt to legitimize his lies!
Got a new name for yourself eh asshole! What’s wrong with KILLER. You committed defamation you dumb ass. You think I was just going to sit and take it. I dropped the case because you got it move to your home town where you have all the connections. One day someone is going to step on your dick you scumbag. I see you’ve fooled all the people on this site just like you did on TWS. You get you jollies off hurting people and getting their goat up don’t you? You have NO HONOR, NONE!! And you have no balls.
Lick my two-hole.
Geezo-pete, it’s like watching Dullass Whipitnflogit in the early stages of his current demented blatherskitery.
Here I am, all of you. I’m sorry that you choose to believe the “distorted” facts of the individual who posted all of this. I know his name but just in case he is going by a different one on this site, I will not do anything to dishonor him. Unlike this individual, I HAVE HONOR. He is only telling “Half-Truths”. For over four years now this individual takes what little information he has and he distorts it to fit his own way of telling the story. You have my e-mail AND my phone number because he gave it out publicly. Of course, he didn’t tell you he also gave out my address, phone number and Social Security number leaving me open for identity fraud. I am a Christian man and I won’t stoop to this individual’s level of defamation. Do you see anywhere in his postings about the certified documents from a licensed professional Handwriting and Document Analyst that states that my documents are AUTHENTIC? Do you see any copies of those documents? Do you see any copies of the results of a Polygraph Exam I took that asked all of the appropriate questions and the results were that I am telling the truth? NO! Because that is not the way this individual operates. He twists the truth so it satisfies his own sick mind. FOUR YEARS of this bullshit. I had the displeasure of encountering this individual in court and I showed him my original documents. You want to know what he did? He looked at them and laughed and said they were fake. Every single one of them including my discharge. He says that I actually self-produced my promotion warrant and my discharge. You can go on believing the bunk that this individual spreads all over the place or go ahead and give me a call or write me an e-mail. This low life gave all the information out so go ahead and use it and stop hiding behind this bullshit blog. Oh, and by the way, check the records of past wars and see how many… Read more »
I have walked the walk in Iraq, now then I go by the records produced by the National Archives of the Federal Govt. If you can prove that they are incomplete or that they are in error, then you need to show proof to the NPRC to have your records changed, but you are not the first person that has been exposed here that has not sung the sang song and dance routine.
Prove Scotty wrong, or go pound sand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chances are the individual who runs this site will not allow my posting to go through because it is the truth that all of you need to hear. Too bad! I feel sorry for all of you who are taken in by one of the few out there who dishonor our Corps. It certainly isn’t me. Take a closer look at the individual who posted the lies you’ve been subjected to! He’s supposed to be a “grunt” but never heard the saying “I have your six”. He has your six alright. With a knife in his hand ready to use it on you.
Surprise! Both of your comments got through.
What do ya know. At least someone out there has the balls to at least listen. By the way, the number of people who support me far outnumber those that believe whatever they read. I have plenty of friends that left TWS because of the likes of Killeffer. Just a bunch of high school-like children seeing who can out shout the other.
When you decide to threaten the inevitable (an ill advised and baseless lawsuit) the email address is in the contact us section above.
Did they leave along with your account on TWS ? I don’t see any of those supporter now coming in your defense.
Well Frances,
Where are all of your friends and defenders?
Well Frances
You boast of many friends in support of your phony story, but none seem to have come here in support of you.
WHAT’S UP WITH THAT???
Visconi:
1. The Purple Heart certificate hasn’t changed since World War II. What you provided isn’t even close.
2. The Bronze Star certificate from the Vietnam era looks absolutely nothing like that . . . whatever it is you provided. Not even close there, either.
3. Official records do not support your claims whatsoever.
“If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck – then odds are pretty damn good it’s a duck.” The same is true of fakes.
Pure bullshit. If you would do some investigating you will find that there are several different versions of a PH citation. You are talking about the certificate that has the PH banner at the top. I received that and I also received one for the BSM. They were destroyed along with most of my documents in a basement flood (more of a disaster). Like I said, my e-mail is available. I will send you a copy of the newspaper article that shows a picture of my basement where my sea bags were stored. Of course, I could have just somehow taken someone elses name out of the article and plugged in my own.
Look, I am tired of this. This is the same thing that happened on TWS. You guys keep making your accusations and as a man with at least some honor I have to at least attempt to protect my dignity. But you construe that as going out of my way to defend myself which you think is covering myself. Official records do not support my claims….NO SHIT! What do you think I’ve been fighting with the BCNR for eight years for. Get a life!
Frank, we have another poser on here who says he was also the victim of a basement flood. Look up Dennis Chevalier. The dog ate his homework too.
LOL Franky Chevalier, Dennis’ husband . Thats how he managed to steal this wonderful lie.
I read the text of that Bronze Star citation then read a bunch of real Bronze Star citations.
Sure does read like bullshit.
There are details of times, dates, places, and units in the real ones that yours is lacking.
One of the things that stuck me when reading your citation was you took over as door gunner on a helo after the crew door gunner was mortally wounded. If you were awarded a Bronze Star for manning a machine gun on a helo, were all helo door gunners awarded a Bronze Star for doing the same job?
Dude, you’re a dick.
But, but, according to his “citation” he single handedly held off the attacking force with that door gun. The other door gunners must have been so awestruck by his awesomeness that the forgot to fire their own guns in support.
My fault, ArmyATC. All those other helos flying around not shooting; riflemen, M-79 gunners, M-60 gunners on the ground not shooting; all because Visconi was coming in hot with his M-60 on a bungee, hanging out the door of that Sikorsky H-34…
What were you shouting to be so awesome, Visconi? “Take that Cobra Commander!?”
Frank: I have only one question because the Purple Heart is something that especially riles me and other here. What’s the story on the Purple Heart? Did you wrongly include that at Together We Served or Military.com?
Mr. Visconi,
1st
No one here is hiding. So if that your tone take a step back. Take a deep breath, then go fuck yourself. If you want to talk then fine we are all ears, but dont show up spouting threats and bullshit and expect anyone to listen to a damned thing you have to say.
Next,
99.99% of the time the FOIA is correct. so if you are one of the very few that has an error then you have had 40 plus years to get it corrected.
Last. do you think you are the first person to talk about a lawsuit filed? Hell your not even the first person TODAY.
I was willing to hear what you had to say, but you started wrong. IF you want to give it another shot go ahead. I for one am more than willing to listen and do my own research. But fair warning. If you are spouting bullshit it will only get worse.
“Apparently the only people that sign on to this bullshit website are those that accept…” Frank, at the risk of stating the obvious, you signed on to this website. Now, what about that Purple Heart business?
Since when does the Purple Heart have a multi-page CITATION in fancy font?
Dress Blues: as far as I know, only those obtained from Roll-Your-Own Industries (and similar businesses) come with those.
That is the million dollar question right there!! And the Bronze Star citation is the same flowery bullshit with none of the real meat that you see in an actual citation. Hey Frank, you are barking up the wrong goddamn tree here old buddy!! Too many people on here with a vast array of skill sets and unbelievably attuned bullshit sniffers. And you are emitting a bullshitty smell.
Dress Blues,
Not only is it in “fancy font” specifically ITC Edwardian Script Regular Alternate which was created in 1994; he used that font on the both documents ie: BS and PH which he claims were presented to him in 1969.
I’ve never seen a Bronze Star or Purple Heart (especially the Purple Heart) citations written like that.
What? Another one making demands of us?
Yeah, well, whatever.
In case there was some doubt, those who claim unearned PH’s are among the lowest of the low.
A telling tale to me is this from Frank:
“I challenge you to go on Google and look up: Photo of USMC SSGT Warrant in 1969.”
So…I Did!
So with little effort Frank, I can go get that document, download the image, put it through PDF and change whatever I want, then print it out. In fact, I could make MYSELF a Marine SSgt and have a Warrant from 1969 to show the world and I never served in the Marines!
Come on Frank, you gotta do better than give yourself away like that. That was just too easy and a BIG Freudian slip on your part. Next time you’re going to doctor documents at least don’t mention where to find them through Google. Copy that Frank?
Oh and by the way Frank, I add my here-here to 2/17 Air Cav’s question…what about the Purple Heart Frank? Did that just fall out of the sky and land in your old shoe box or what?
Oh, didn’t my friend post my Discharge? He says I made that up too. Contact the BCNR if you don’t believe me. That’s another thing the good ol’ BCNR can’t do is produce the letter sent to me by the Commandant in 1969 telling me I was promoted. That’s because their record keeping system sucks.
I really don’t care if you believe me or not. Like I said, send me an e-mail and I will send you a photocopy of my Discharge and a certified copy of my promotion warrant. Wow, I never thought of copying down a version and doing whatever it is you said to do. I am not computer literate enough to do that.
Yeah, so we have about 6,000 folks, mostly veterans here, Frank. All of you who have been promoted after you were discharged, raise your hand.
Gee Didnt everyone in the IRR get promoted during their 6 or 8 year commitment?
Uuuhhhhmmm,… NOPE, I sure didn’t, dididosumpin’ wrong?
Now that I’m retired and in the Retired Reserves, I await with bated breath and sweaty palms every day for my O-6 promotion orders to arrive…maybe it’ll show up today, gotta check the mail…
To Combat Historian – Sir, will you please try to establish email contact with me through one of the Admins. I’d appreciate it. Thanks – GDC
Damn, I’m one of those grey area retired guys too. Where’s my warrant? I guess unless your name is R Lee Ermy, it ain’t gonna happen.
Theoretically, it can happen. In practice, today it’s pretty rare that anyone in the IRR will make the cut.
Can’t say for certain how things worked in the USMCR in 1969, but I’d guess it was pretty much the same then.
Hondo, the only IRR promotions I am aware of are those for senior politicians and folks of that sort, done for the good of the service so as to increase goodwill and clout when the annual DOD/service budgets are prepared, or for PR purposes. One case that comes to mind was when Senator Chuck Robb (D-VA) was promoted to O-5. He had not done any training or duties in decades and was in the IRR, and USMC promoted him in the IRR based on “equivalent service” he performed as a politician and senator on the Senate Armed Services Committee. For the rest of us normal people, IRR promotions are…somewhat RARE…
Combat Historian: true, particularly on the officer side. And they’re even rarer today than they used to be.
Pre-ROPMA, USAR officer promotions up to O5 were made on a “fully qualified” basis – which essentially meant “educationally qualified without significant derogatory” (promotions to O6 were always “best qualified/needs of service”). That changed when ROPMA became effective in the mid/late 1990s. At that point, promotions for O3/O4/O5 also became based on “best qualified/needs of service”.
I’m personally convinced that our good bigamist friend Royston Potter only made LTC because he “snuck in under the wire” for the last pre-ROPMA LTC board. I could be wrong, of course.
You mean posthumously?
See the “Contact Us” link on the site’s top banner, Visconi. That gives the appropriate e-mail contact address.
You don’t sound like a confident Marine. You sound like an individual who is now chasing a lie that technology caught up to.
You want to clear the air. Send the correct documents.
But we already know such documents don’t exist.
I am very confident my friend. VERY! I’m just surprised that there are so many of you out there that can be “taken in” by the bullshit of one person. It just amazes me how eager all of you are to jump on the bandwagon without questioning at least some part of the fabrication put before you. It’s actually scary!
Actually not just taken in but “led around by the nose”. You are supposed to be grown, intelligent men yet you act like immature children ganging up on anyone you can. Kinda like grade school, ya know!
You should hang out with Phildo.
Your case before the Navy was dismissed in part because you presented them with documents that they found to be inconsistent with Awards Documents of the time and containing signatures that did not match those of the actual person claimed to have signed them.
You are lucky they did not slap you with forgery charges.
Frances,
Its not me that is “taken them in” it is your highly successful litigation experience with the courts.
Your score to date: 0-10 counting all of your cases and appeals. You have one appeal outstanding with the 6th Circuit which you will lose because you’ve not alleged any mistakes on the part of the District Court.
And you are advertising yourself as an attorney. What a miserable track record!
MCPO, it sure looks to me like he’s “Chevaliering” all over the place!!
Sounds more to me like a case of “That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!”, Proud Infidel.
But you could be right. Let’s see if this guy’s story changes over time like Cheeze-boi’s has.
How about that Purple Heart citation? I’ve never seen one like that, or the Bronze Star citation for that matter.
You’re younger than I am and you can’t figure out how to use a scanner to make pdfs of documents for your computer and your e-mail?
What a load of crap! Here’s how it works, so pay attention:
1-Put the document face down on the glass.
2-Close the lid of the printer / scanner.
3-Push the button marked ‘SCAN’.
4-Save to a flash drive.
5-Transfer to your hard drive.
Is that simple enough for you?
Geez!
B-but, Ex-PH2, all that fancy pants jargon! Scanners and PDFs and flash drives! You might as well be speaking Klingon.
I mean, it’s taken decades for him to figure out how to use a computer, clearly. He wouldn’t know simple things like “Google” that we take for granted. He’s just a computer illiterate, yet strangely prolific, touch typer. 😉
Oh, and Visconi – the “Contact Us” button has postal address info also. If you truly are unable to figure out how to scan something and e-mail it (and are also too cheap to spend $2-$3 to get the folks at Office Depot to help you), you can mail the documents instead.
” I never thought of copying down a version and doing whatever it is you said to do. I am not computer literate enough to do that.”
BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve seen the documents and they are bogus as a UFO over the White House.
I took a pain pill Frank so maybe I forgot to ask. What about the honored Purple Heart you are claiming? Oh, did I already ask that? Sorry, my bad.
In case you forgot, Sparky, I’ll ask for you:
Frank! What about that Purple Heart? Where’s the documentation on it, and why doesn’t the official repository of military documents know about it?
(Maybe if we capitalize it next time he will hear us ask?)
My patience is just about exhausted and we’ve just begun. Hereafter, my comments for Francis will be limited to two words: Purple Heart. Presently, I’m smelling the familiar stink of a guy whose self-righteousness is focused on only one of multiple issues. So, he fixes on that and then peacocks his way around while ignoring the other items that, perhaps, don’t work so well for him. Purple Heart?
I’m delighted that you know so much about the Marine Corps Mr. Air Cav? Obviously you’ve never dealt with the Navy’s Board for the Correction of Naval Records.
Yeah Frank, go piss on someone else’s leg.
Nothing like an aging bullshitter who waits for years to pass before trying to pass off his lies.
I guess you figured people should just “respect their elders” and no one was around that could possibly call you out, since you were such a crusty old timer.
Well just like TWS, there are a lot of guys/gals that didnt fall off the turnip truck yesterday.
There are plenty of Vietnam Vets, Combat Vets, and Marines here. People that know both from personal experience, and from working with records that you are full of shit.
I did just so happen to fall off a turnip truck yesterday. Well more like a strawberry car but I did fall. But I ain’t falling for this story.
From one Marine to another, stop your bullshit. I know of several cases that the board has taken up and they do not have a 40 some odd year backlog like you seem to claim. I just helped a comrade of mine from Beirut send in paperwork to correct his record and received the correction within a few months. Of course, we were not trying to get citations for fake valor awards. So your results may vary.
So in summary, you fucked up your honorable service during wartime by being a poser fuck embellisher. Unless and until you can prove the many honorable veterans here wrong, you are going to catch a ration of shit. And if you keep challenging certain members here, you are going to ride the lightening and that is going to sting.
Just where did 2/17 AirCav say even one word in his post about the Marine Corps, Frank?
Quote that spot. Because I can read, as can everyone else here, but apparently, you cannot.
AirCav didn’t say a word about the Marine Corps, you did. You changed the subject, which is not to your favor.
OWB and Sparky: I received the “certificate” you are talking about. It’s way too long of a story as to what happened to it. Do some investigating. There are plenty of circumstances where a “citation” was issued for the PH. Did you forget? That’s what I’m trying to do with the BCNR…get my records made whole and correct and have what is missing put on my records. What is it with you people? You just ASSUME what someone else is saying is gospel. No matter what documents I send to you, like my friend who is defaming me, you’ll just say I copied it down from somewhere and made it myself. That’s pretty ignorant. I have CERTIFIED copies sent from Naval Records. Just e-mail me and I will CONSIDER sending you what you want. Then again, you’ll just do what my defamer did. So, apparently there is no way to prove to you. I asked the BCNR why, when I received my first DD-215, they didn’t correct the Rank section. They said they don’t change that on the DD-214/214. What is on your DISCHARGE is your official rank. Mine happens to say Staff Sergeant Frank J. Visconi and my promotion warrant says the same thing with precedence number 1396. So, if he is lying about the promotion (and he is) then what does that say about the rest of his accusations. Why would I keep on for eight long years and go through all the bullshit I’ve been going through if I were making it all up. Are you so closed minded that you won’t even consider the possibility that Records made a mistake especially when so many others are going through the same thing. If you want to confirm my rank status, there are ways to do it. If you are so smart and know everything, do it. I contacted BCNR and told them this is all their fault. At the very least they could write a short letter to Killeffer and confirm that I am, in fact a Staff Sergeant. I had 19 months in grade as an… Read more »
Date and time of action that resulted in awards.
Where did this happen?
What units were involved?
Who else was awarded during the same period?
I can verify that in 3 mins!
Clock is ticking.
I don’t recall making any threats to anyone but like Killeffer, you can twist around anything you like to make it sound like you want. The FOIA only gives limited information.
Operation Starlite, August 18-19, 1965
Chu Lai, Vietnam (Van Tuong Penninsula)
3rd Marines by land, 4th Marines by air (helicopter) and 2nd Marines by sea
Several awards and CMOH awarded to (then) Cpl. Robert O’Malley. I didn’tknow hm personally.
Ok … Show us the evidence … That you were there and you were awarded.
Easy.
I already did and everyone just says it is fake and self-produced. So what good would it do. The documents I have are what you see (well not all of them). Mr. Killeffer has determined in his own mind that I self–produced them and he’s posted that all over the world so I guess you either believe him or me. Apparently everyone refuses to believe that there are more than one single version of official documents out there. Check of the SECNAVINST 1650 manual. Check under the part that shows how “citations’ are “supposed” to be typed. Then check out the last subsection under that section and see what it says. It says right in the manual that other versions of the citation may be used depending on the command issuing them (not the exact words but it’s right there for you to view for yourself). So, that means that all the requirements they stated before that are negated by saying there can be other versions. That’s LOGIC my friend.
Clown.
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/BRADEN.VISCONI112812A.pdf
Read the part about signatures not matching and Citations for purple hearts.
FAKE
Yeah, but did you go to that beaach party at No Dang Twat? All the guys were there.
How was the surf, anyway? Ever use a Rubber Lady?
Nah, he was “in the rear with the gear” at Lon Duc Dong
2nd Marines ( the Regiment or Division) werent even in Vietnam.
Marine Infantry Battalions were 2/4, 3/3, 1/7 and 2/7
Get your shit straight.
Frank,
It’s funny that the dates for your awards and the dates for operation Starlite are 5 months off. Your Awards are March-April, Starlite was in August. Keep digging.
Shit Bird.
You’re as dumb as Killeffer. I said Starlite was 18-19 August 1965. I received the awards in May 1969, four years later, at the same time I received my promotion. And 1/7 2/7, who gives a shit. Remember I only spent two days there and was not a member of any of the units involved. There were several people from other units that were part of requested extra men from the surrounding units. Like Killeffer, you know it all don’t you.
Care to comment on the US District Court opinion cited here, Visconi? The one that says, in part, that the NBCMR rejected your request for a “replacement” BSM and PH because “the documents he (meaning you, Visconi) provided were not authentic”?
According to the court papers your “battle” took place on June 18, 1965, not August.
What in the ever lovin’ hell are you talking about? And why? All this tap dancing is absurd.
Your records were checked at the place which keeps official military records. They sent what they have. That is what we know. Period. End of story. Your posturing is quite irrelevant.
Unless and until you can con them into changing the official records based upon your fanciful stories, we will continue to consider you a poser.
The odds are against your ever getting your official records changed. We know that. If you do not yet, you may soon figure it out. In the unlikely event that it turns out that you were indeed what you say you were, I will be at the front of the line to apologize. Until then, kindly hold your breath.
Well at least you said you would be first in line to apologize. Here is something you should know. I have been fighting for eight years to get my records corrected. That’s a short time compared to others I know that are trying the same thing. I am happy for you that you have never had to go through the process. Their philosophy is that if it ain’t on their records, it’s not true. So, no matter what you provide to them, you are wrong and they are always right. You’re exactly right. My records may never be corrected and if they are not, I will live with that. But I do not deserve the flack I have been going through for the past several years based on a bunch of bunk being spread all over the place by someone who knows nothing about me or what I did. The fact IS that the RECORDS do not always tell the story. You tell me to back off but you refuse to open your mind to any possibilities. What does that make you? Go check it out. There are thousands just like me who have been trying to make their records whole and have run up against a brick wall. Meantime, I do NOT wear or post any ribbons that are not on my record, except for the CAR. No one is going to deny me that. If you were there in 65 then you know what I am talking about.
Visconi: if the awards are legit, you should be able to produce orders for them. No personal decoration (BSM, PH) is issued w/o orders confirming/announcing same.
No orders? Well, that suggests another possibility.
Courts seem real impressed with his knowledge and ability to practice as his own attorney. Can we all say “dismissed” over technicalities he screwed up? BTW – is a polaraoid pic of a scar really evidence of a punji stake injury?
Uh, no, but you should see the *punji stick, oubliette, sword, gladius* (pick one) scar I have above my left knee.
bigvolmn = Sam Killeffer
Just wanted to clarify for all. Not only is this man a phony recipient of the BS and 1 or 2 Purple Hearts depending on which story he tells he is now offering his expert legal services and a modest rate of $ 22.00 per hour. He doesn’t say that his extensive experience at writing briefs and motions as well as legal research have resulted in his client’s (Frank J Visconi) cases either being dismissed or withdrawn. You can contact him at the following link:
https://www.elance.com/s/lawgrad/
BCNR told him that they had exhausted their efforts to change his records and that he could file a complaint in the Federal District Court with proper jurisdiction. So what does he do…. he files his claim in Federal Claims Court.
Holy crap! Let me net this out.
I pay a college junior 20 bucks an hour to do yard work, maintenace and other odd jobs around my FOB upstate.
Frank charges 22 bucks an hour for essentially para legal work.
I would tell any of Frank’s clients … save the two bucks, hire my guy to do you lawn and go hire a real lawyer. Your lawn will look great and you won’t loose your house!
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I waded through that mess… for someone who doesnt want to be a “lawer” he spends a lot of time filing motions.
The gist of what I got is that He tried to sue BCNR because they wouldnt accept his fake records ( and later a statement he got from a General).
They dismissed it because there was no money involved.
Shitfer refiled saying other people damaged him and trie to sue them and the BCNR
the Court said they wouldnt hear complaints against individuals that would go to a different court,
He ended up getting the whole caee dismissed.
Not practicing law Frances???? What is this >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.elance.com/s/lawgrad/
Mr. Visconi, Riddle me this. If you have the actual citations from the Marine Corps, why did you find it necessary to file suit against the US Government and the BNCR to have your alleged Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals added to your records, cases you all lost BTW? Wouldn’t a 215 have been sufficient if you had the proper paperwork? I’m also very interested in the so-called Purple Heart citation. Since when as any branch of service offered a citation, especially one like you posted, for a Purple Heart? When did the military use month, day, and year on any paperwork, especially an official medal citation? To say something smells would be an understatement. Can you or will you, answer any of those questions?
In one of your posts above, you wrote, “I have CERTIFIED copies (of your medal citations) sent from Naval Records.” If Naval Records has everything, why have you had to (fruitlessly) sue them to get the medals added to your records? None of this makes sense.
Looking at the Bronze Star citation and the Purple Heart citation, I can’t help but think of the Bill Burkette fiasco regarding Vietnam war era documents printed in a font that didn’t exist at the time. I would think if these fancy docs were genuine, they would be fill in the blank for the person’s name, date, etc. My uncle was reg. Army, 198th LIB, and received a Bronze Star in 1968. The citation was on a simple typed piece of paper. My uncle also got a PH. I think there was some mention of George Washington on the paperwork. It looks to me that Visconti’s certs would have had to have been typset…. a lot of work.
I sued them because that was my only alternative because they would not accept the documents and evidence that I sent them. I wasn’t about to quit just because the BCNR says NO. I refuse to take No for an answer to THEIR mistakes. Like I said, the Naval legal department is the one that told me that my only alternative was to sue. I told the BCNR that I would go to my grave defending my status and nothing they say or do can change that. Anyone who has had experience with them knows how they are about defending their own inequities.
Again, it doesn’t make sense. If you got your medal citations from Naval Records, why do you need to sue them to get the citations added to your records? You see where the confusion comes from? If the Navy has records of your service, to include your medals, why the need to prove to them you have records of your service, to include the medals?
Frank … Your VA disability rating 30 or 40?
What is it?
Master Chief, he’s not Whipitnflogit. He’s more like Dennis the Cheeseslayer.
OH, he’s definitely “Chevaliering” all over himself!
I have been researching the Purple Heart for a while.
In very very rare cases a citation was issued. But more often than not was the certificate.
Now having looked at the document that Frank has offered, I have no doubt that it is Fake.
I cannot find any instance of Leonard F. Chapman’s signature that did not include his Rank. I also cannot find any documentation where he used his first name. His signature line was L.F. Chapman.
Now we come to the Font.
In 1969 it would have taken a Calligrapher to produce either of those documents. There are no pen lifts, stop points, variations of letters ect.
Now out of all the services there is only one that keeps a list of all purple hearts awarded. Its the Marines.
So I ask myself, Why would a PFC have been singled out to receive a unique Bronze star and purple Heart Citation, Years after his Discharge? Why would he be promoted after his discharge?
So the red flags start to pop up.
We all know that there are stock forms and formats in the military for everything. Why would these deviate so much from the Norm?
The “promotion order” was signed by Chapman on 2 May 1969 at “Headquarters United States Marine Corps” – while on the very same day, the two “awards”, also signed by Chapman, were presented in Detroit, Michigan. Chapman went to a hell of a lot of trouble for this young Marine on this one day!
I always thought that any award certificate was a simple document that was similar across all branches, with no fancy script. It simply states the date and place the service member was wounded.
Why? Because otherwise, he didn’t have any combat no-shit stories to spread around.
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/BRADEN.VISCONI112812A.pdf quote:
….In May 2009, Plaintiff received a letter from the BCNR informing him that his request for a replacement Bronze Star Medal and Purple Heart Medal were denied, because the documents he provided were not authentic….
…..and the Purple Heart is never issued with a citation, but is awarded based on medical records. Compl. at 49-52….. end quote
And typeface was used back then – not computer fonts.
” . . . denied because the documents he provided were not authentic.” Gee – who’d a thunk it after looking at those documents!
OH and BTW Frank you fakers,
Edwardian Script ITC was not invented until 1994
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/itc-edwardian-script/
That is the exact script that your documents are in. Look it up in word, type a few lines.
Now I could be wrong about this but something in the fake Documents Jogged my memory so I looked it up again.
In 1969 the Armed Forces induction Center was at Fort Wayne Detroit. Not the Federal Building.
Yes, before then, calligraphic scripts were available as Pres-type scripts for graphic pre-press production.
Now, how do I know that?
Well, very simply, I worked in graphic pre-press production as a freelance graphic artist. I used a lot of that crap. The Arial font was called Helvetica and/or Helios back then.
Any questions? Talk to Mikey.
Dang. Busted by typography.
“Your honor no further questions for this witness, we rest our case”.
Do we have another Dennis Chevalier in the making? Stay tuned to your favorite SV blog,
Oh, Frank, Frank, Frank! The only certificates you got when you were promoted to E-4 and E-5 were the requests for new ID cards showing your new pay grade. That’s all that ANYONE got.
Jonn Lilyea has copies of mine. I sent them to him some time back. He knows what they looked like back then.s
Now, how do I know this? Because that’s what I got, dumbass. That, and the grip-and-grins for the hometown newspaper.
Do you think you are the only person left alive from the Olden Times of Noncombatant Enlisteds During the War in Vietnam? If you really believe no one can see through your little fantasy, you are dumber than rust on a plastic birdfeeder.
Seriously, get over yourself.
” Grip and grins”?
You’re not supposed to let our lesbo sayings get out among the “regular” folks.
It’s only lesbo if you are wearing flannel.
Can you see me? Like Jonn can?
You think Birdbath is the only person with people hiding in his bushes? We see ALL.
Im hiding behind a 7 pound block of cheese.
Is that why my bush is a quivering?
Lebanese quivering bushes in flannel… VERY KINKY!!!
That don’t match the convo. Where Or who is talking about Lesbos Val . Are you confuse on what your looking for lol…. Grips n grins a code for some thing lol. Thought this was a stolen valor site not flannels are Lesbos…. Lol. Just asking miss Flannel lol. 🙂
It’s an inside joke.
Inside our flannel panties!
Isn’t that supposed to be flannel lined leather?
I have promotions warrants for LCpl, Cpl, Sgt, and SSgt. I did not get the LCpl in Nam. I didn’t even know I was promoted to LCpl until I got home. THAT is when I got the warrant. You guys think you know everything about the entire Marine Corps but you don’t know shit except for what your unit did. It’s a much bigger CORPS than you even imagine and there are all kinds of processes out there that you aren’t even aware of. You people are so quick to judge on matters that you know nothing about.
I never knew they could time travel until now, so thank you for that.
Yet jumping to conclusions seems to come so easily to you, Frank.
Trust me, you have no idea the military experience represented here. You, among us, the ones you so quickly condemn, talk big, as we laugh at your assumptions, assertions, and all that.
Evidently some of us who did not serve in the Corps know more about it than do you, Frank. You seriously cannot dazzle us with the BS that works on some people.
And you as a well seasoned L/Cpl, Cpl and Sergeant had seen it all?? Please Frank. Just stop.
No, scratch that. Please tell me more about the great big Marine Corps!! I cannot wait to be schooled by a goddamn valor thief who keeps up his broken record bullshit about awards he does not rate. How about you look at the story on here about the EOD Specialist who REALLY performed acts of valor and is to be awarded a Silver Star. And then ask yourself if you are really wanting to go down this path and try to steal valor from a man like that. You had an honorable enlistment and you have thrown it all away because of some character defect that you have. I know you are an old man, but it is not too late to stop this bullshit and live honorably. Or not. I have a feeling you will remain a fucking poser.
Uh-oh!
He pissed of Master Guns, but good.
Well, Frank, I really like your shoes. I like them a lot.
However, I would not want to be in your shoes right now.
That sound you hear… ( “Oh….OW…SNAP!!” )
Is Top breaking it off in Frankie’ ASS.
Damn Frankie . It’s one thing to piss off a SgtMaj.. But when you piss off a MGySgt, Stick a fork in your poser ass . You are done. Please enlighten us on how you know more than what your superior SNCO’s know. Refilling the popcorn bowl 🙂
Oh, crap, I keep forgetting that things have changed since the Olden Times.
Back then, ‘grip-and-grin’ meant getting your picture taken when the CO (or someone) was handing you your next rate badge and shaking your hand for the camera.
Now it’s the Seekrit Squirrel Lesbo Dap.
I went through Unit Public Affairs Representative (UPAR) training in 2009, and “grip and grin” meant the same thing you described, Ex-PH2. Some things don’t change much.
(Wish I had known about the secret ‘lesbo thing’ then. Our PAO was hot.)
Can someone explain what he means by this statement to me, please?
“Meantime, I do NOT wear or post any ribbons that are not on my record, except for the CAR. No one can deny me that. If you were there in 65 then you know what I am talking about.”
Does this mean he wasn’t awarded one but wears one anyway? And isn’t this a big no no also?
Sorry if I misunderstood. I’m with Sparks tonight in the fact I also had to take a little something for pain.
I don’t know what he thinks he means by his CAR, but maybe it’s his way of referral to getting his hair cut by a nude Marine barber or going to one of the beach parties at No Dang Twat.
I wonder if he knew Bill Mills.
I think his “car” is what he drives to the nearest court to file another frivolous lawsuit. But I could be wrong.
No idea here either, Val, but the usual mode for all us retired and otherwise separated vets is “If it ain’t documented, it didn’t happen.”
(Kinda why many of us kept a copy of every written order we were ever issued, then periodically checked to make certain that our permanent record was correct.)
It also didn’t take long to figure out that most of us were never going to be recognized with many awards. Oh, sure, the Air Force is the brunt of many jokes about how many awards we get, but I am unaware of anything on my ribbon rack that wasn’t well earned. But, we all know folks who bloated their awards or were given them for very frivolous reasons. No big deal, really. If they wanted them that badly, they could have them as far as I am concerned.
Except a Purple Heart and MOH. Those mean something very specific and are not to be trifled with. Most of us are grateful to have NOT been awarded those and have the highest respect for those who earned them. Too many of our brothers paid for those with their lives.
Yes, that is exactly what he means. The complete list of awards that he claims include the following:
Purple Heart x 2
Bronze Star w/V device
Presidential Unit Commendation
Combat Action Ribbon
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
None of which are listed on his DD214 or either of his DD215(s)
I just read a boatload of Bronze Star Medal citations and everyone of them began, “The President of the United States of America.” Not a one began with any Commandant of the Marine Corps. That bullshit you have starts out like a some other kind of medal, not a BSM.
The text of your citation reads like something out of the A-Team, (or any shitty Stallone movie.)
You had a good and honorable four years as a Marine. Your “aw shit” just fucked that all up. Come clean now and be forgiven.
When do the sockpuppets show? I love puppetry.
Wow … Looks like you guys and gals have been busy eating Franks for mid-rats!
Ah, midrats. Thanks for the memories Master Chief.
I got real savvy on my second WestPac. As soon as we boarded ship I grabbed two of my dichheads and ran one of them up to the Chiefs Mess and the other to the Officers Mess. I knew Gunny would be down in a couple of hours with taskings for the messdeck and I wanted to be prepared. The guys I put up there would sneak us pies, blocks of ham and cheese, and bread so we had our own mid-rats in the berthing compartments.
I always made sure I stopped by DC Central to make some friends so when fuel was being transferred and the smoking lamp was out throughout the ship, I had somewhere to smoke and drink coffee.
Wolfy’s franks are better, and you get fries with them. And a soda. Or beer.
Frank,
If you were the genuine article no one would have a problem straightening out this blog, apoligizing and moving on.
There are simply too many things that don’t add up.
First thing is that the BCNR did look at your case, and stated your documents were not authentic. That speaks volumes.
First off, if you were really adamant about getting your records straightened out, and you have been pushing for EIGHT fucking years, you would be going at it with more than two ( apparently fake) citations.
Your description of the actions for which you got the awards are some shit a high school kid could come up with from google.
Where is your supporting statements from people who were there? What is your medical evidence for being wounded? Your health record was archived after your discharge.
Your unit’s morning report would have reported you as wounded. Not to mention in the past Eight years you could have gotten collaborating statements from Marines in your unit swearing you were wounded in action. The same thing with your Bronze Star. SOMEBODY had to recommend you for it. An individual like yourself, with so much influence in the Veteran’s community should have been able to find plenty of people in your unit to write statements to back them up.
Any bonafide recipient of either medal could come out and say.
” I was attached to 1st Platoon, Co I 3rd Bn 4th Marines in operation Starlite” …” My squad leader was CPl Smith, I was with Pete Johnson from Texas, Joe Richards from New York and Lt Fitzgerald was company commander, he recommended me for the Bronze Star. I got hit by a grenade fragment on May 17 1966 in my left thigh. Doc Waters patched me up, I spent about 2 weeks in the rear ( or hospital).
You have nothing but a vague Division History and a couple of questionable documents that you presented 30 years after the fact.
Those citations read like fiction, bad fiction at that.
Over the eight years I have presented many more than the two documents and letters from other Marines supporting what I claimed. Yes, BCNR said my documents were no authentic and gave four reasons why and I refuted everyone of them. PLUS they have been deemed authentic by an certified analyst. I asked BCNR to give me a polygraph and they refused. I asked them to have my document analyzed and they refused. I had to have it done myself at my own expense. Now I am sure you will make something of that too like I have personal friends who are polygraph examiners and document analysts. I’ve been down this road with other nay-sayers. This is all repetitive bullshit that I have been going through with the likes of people like you on these blogs. Yes, I am stupid for even getting involved in these “chats” but you know what, a man can only take so much and pretty soon he has to defend himself. I’d like to see you go through what I have for the past several years starting with TWS. This blog is no different. Probably made up of the same guys or the guys that were kicked off TWS for causing problems like this. Why don’t you guys just mind your own business and let me continue my battle with the BCNR. Until you have gone through a claim with them, you have no idea what it is like. I have given them more than enough evidence to prove my claim. They just don’t like being found out to be wrong and that is it…Period!
Frank,
Guess what…it *IS* possible to polish a turd…but in the end, you’re just left with a shiny turd….and it’s still just a turd. Keep Rubbing.
Visconi: obviously use of English isn’t your strong suit.
No, Visconi – you attempted to refute the BNCMR’s reasons for rejecting your supporting “documents”. The BNCMR found your attempt at doing so lacking. Had you successfully refuted the basis for their deciding your documents were not authentic, they’d have ordered the decorations in question added to your official records.
You had your chance with the BNCMR. The BNCMR considered your case and the “documentation” you provided found that documentation to be, bluntly, faked. They thus rightfully denied your request.
Funny. This thread had all but died. Then you came in and stirred the shit pot. And now you have the unmitigated gall to tell us to mind our own business? You made it our business, clown.
Frances,
You have no claim with BCNR; They are done with you. You took your bullshit case to the Federal District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee and they dismissed your complaint “WITH PREJUDICE” meaning you cannot sue them again. You have appealed that decision but you’ve not alleged any mistakes on the District Court; when they re affirm the lower courts decision then you will have exhausted having your OMPF “corrected”. So now you are left with proving to an audience of Vets that you did receive those awards.
GOOD LUCK FRANCES !!!
Frank- I have served on a promotion board, so I don’t subscribe to the infallibility of the records keeping system. I have seen some messed up records.
On the other hand, it would seem as though you have encountered two perfect storms in your life. One culminated on May 1, 1969 when a unit you were three years removed from, finally pushed through your long awaited awards… a Bronze Star (V), two Purple Hearts, a Combat Action Ribbon, and a Presidential Unit Citation. At the same time, in a parallel universe, the Marine Corps Reserve Staff Sergeant Promotion Board was recommending you for promotion despite the fact that you were not a drilling reservist and did not have the most recent fitness report.
Fast forward 45 years and you are facing a perfect storm of WTF, over. Everything from May 1, 1969 has been flushed down the memory hole.
BTW, I only saw one of your PH citations and you should have had a Corpsman review it for anatomical accuracy. Your wound on the ‘upper leg,’ ‘below the knee.’ Maybe someone was viewing an upside-down photograph (or not).
So which company were you with, Frankie? Echo? Hotel? Olive Garden?
I should think you’d remember that. I know I would.
Which one of the 203 Marines who were wounded during Starlite are you?
I’m QUITE sure we can ask someone to supply us with the actual list of people who got a battle injury from that event.
Still haven’t answered my question: Did you go to that beach party at No Dang Twat?
Why would he remember? He’d just run out to the chopper and ask, “Hey, Guys!! Can I go too? Huh, can I, can I?” And they’d say, “Sure, Skippy. Hop aboard. Does your momma know you’re coming along?” Why worry about unit information when you know those grunt units would just let anyone ride along with them into combat. Hell, he probably didn’t know most of the time who he was with or where they were going. he just wanted to be one of the boys and those grunt officers and NCOs were happy to have such a high speed troop tag, who they knew nothing about, tag along.
Almost forgot. When he got back that evening, after a full day of combat cuz you know all those grunt units were on an eight hour clock, he’d change his shirt and report to the supply tent to hand out toilet paper.
Good Lord!! I just read through those “citations” again.
What a crock of shit. Apparently He is the only Marine who was never attached to a company, Battalion or regimental sized unit…. He was a PFC in supply who did freelance Recon, Medivac assistance and door-gunned for the entire 3rd Marine Division.
Shit bird.
And I did NOT know that the Marine Corps hired freelancers until now.
Had I known that, I’d have signed up with them back in 1988.
Nah, bro… dude hung out with his buds at the hoochie momma bars in Lon Duc Dong… has 14 kids from 17 different baby mommas
I know who this shit stick is now,
So lets play Frank, Here is how this works, I and others point out the glaring fuck ups you made in your fake documents and you either Admit you lied or you entertain us with your Bullshit.
So lets begin.
For the sake of argument, lets say the promotion certificate is Valid. It has your Date of Rank as 1 May,
Right here we see the promotion board didn’t convene until 11 April, and that you would have had to have been in an organized unit to have even been considered.
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/1969/04/reserve-snco-promotions
Your precedence number was 1396, that means that 1395 other E-5s would have needed to get promoted to E-6 before you did. All reservist. Didnt happen.
Now you say you got stabbed in the area around your knee by a punji stick. Approx 1 inch deep. My question, Only one wound?
Now I am not an expert on Punji sticks, but I do know they every puji stick injury was treated extensively to prevent infection. Most punji sticks were coated with poison or feces or both. I also know that it was a rare thing for a Marine, Soldier ect that got stuck by one to be able to get himself off of it.
So lets say you did get stuck, your ass would have been getting IV antibiotics for days afterwards, not running around in the jungles.
So one more thing, so many helos were damages in Starlight that there was an over abundance of helo crews. Why would they take some PFC supply person? Were you that crappy at your regular job that they could do without you for days on end? Or is it that you wanted so bad to be a hero that you decided to make it up?
I hear Franks’ reply…
Maybe it was a freelance punji stick, E4U.
I’m puzzled AS TO how Frankie-boi got off the jolly green doorgunner shooting crew after a mere 2 days of firefights, when Operation Starligh lasted a ful 7 days.
Maybe a 2 looks like a 7? I’m mystified by this. Maybe he had to go back to stocking shelves?
But what do I know? So many unanswered questions….
That should be ‘full’ and ‘Starlight’.
Sometimes, I just detest my new keyboard.
Since I’ve never served I’ve never seen any of these documents other than what I’ve read here and at Scotty’s. Now it could just be my current “mood” or the meds I’m on, but do all “promotion” documents read as if a pirate wrote them?
I kept looking for “Arrr matey” to be in there somewhere.
Giggle snort burp fart
Only the good ones. ARRRR
Over
Only the Navy ones. The Army never had pirates. Well, at least not ones you wanted to meet in the showers after lights out. And if you heard an, “Arrr, Matey” you stayed out of the head. That’s simply not anything a corn fed Ohio boy wanted to see.
Visconi is either the unluckiest man in the world or the stupidest. The reason I say that is that I read the case decision in Visconi II and the things that had to go wrong, from incorrect signatures on documents to medical records devoid of any basis for award of a Purple Heart—let alone two Purple Hearts—to leave his ass flapping in the wind, are extraordinary. 1964/65 was not the Stone Age. The military kept records of combat action, casualties, wounds, injuries—you name it. Yet, according to the court, Visconi’s medical records don’t support his Purple Heart claim. “Plaintiff protested, arguing that the CG was not the only awarding authority, Lt. Col. Polidori likely used his assistant or somebody else for the signature, other citations not conforming to the standard format were issued, and HIS INJURIES WERE NEVER RECORDED ON HIS MEDICAL RECORD.” [Caps added for emphasis] So, there you go. Visconi, acting as his own counsel, argued unsuccessfully that there must not have been any medical record made of the injury he insists supported a Purple Heart. As for the rest of the stuff, I don’t much care. He demanded a Purple Heart. That says a lot right there, none of it good. Are there mistakes made in records? You bet! Is it likely that so many mistakes were visited upon one man? No. So, if he’s not the unluckiest man in the world—and I do not believe he is– that leaves me with the alternative conclusion.
Dude has some mad lawer skillz… like another poser that we all know about. Must have graduated from the same law school as the Bernasty…
Or he’s the love child of the finals in the TAH SV tourney.
Ladies and gentlemen let’s give a warm thank you to Frank, Bernath’s newest client (I presume).
That would mean that ShOrTbUs41 is his para legal now too. Grab the popcorn, The show is just getting started.
I’m stocking up on beer, popcorn, and pretzels. ON WITH THE COMEDY SHOW!!
I know I said this on another thread, but maybe someone needs to look into producing a reality TV show with some of these characters. I say it needs to be made starring Bernutless, Cheesy Chevy, the Waddlin’ Wanger, Frank, and Dullass as the core characters, I can see the promo plugs already, “TONIGHT, on Extreme Idiots,…”
those two great legal minds together wouldn’t produce enough power to light off a small fart…..
Here’s a link to a Marines writeup for a SS and BS
http://projects.militarytimes.com/citations-medals-awards/recipient.php?recipientid=23715
Big difference between Frank’s and Captain Montague’s…
I guess Frank never had to convince a few thousand real veterans of his truthiness before.
Yes, but there are SO many resources on the internet these days, such as someone who is now putting together the history of — wait for it: Operation Starlight.
How about that! Arrrr, Sonar, matey, play me a dirge.
Is Frank trying for a top seed in the Tournament? If so, he’s got to up his game. He’s late to the dance and Bernasty and LtCol(not)Doc(not) are in a lip lock for #1. Plus, we have Round Ranger lurking and sure to step on his crank any day now and get back into contention.
Tis a shame since Frank did serve honorably but that wasn’t good enough for him.
Maybe next time. He’s a cherry at this point.
Frank’s not a number one seed by any stretch of the imagination, though I do see him making a deep run depending on how the brackets stack up.
He at least has an outside shot at making it on the podium.
I don’t know. The unreadable “Walls of Text” approach is pretty much a loser, every time.
Plus, he lacks style, such as Cheesy’s kindergarten type make believe (I was a PI an pilot an doctor) or Crash’s pure crazy.
Frank reminds me of James Ferris, the disgraced former president of the Korean War Veterans Association. Ferris was a Marine who wore medals not his and made claims that weren’t true. He thought the little miscues were just so much noise for a while. He was an important man. He met the president and the vice president! But he fell. The truth has a way of coming out. In the end, he wrote, “I am extremely embarrassed and sick about this. “I made a horrible mistake but I never thought it would harm anyone.” And so it goes. I have no doubt that Frank has a legitimate issue about something related to his records. After all, there is always a grain of truth in every bullshit story. For Ferris, it was that four of the dozen or so medals he wore were actually his. For Frank, who knows? The courts were wrong. The Marines were wrong. The BCNR was wrong. We are wrong. In fact, everyone was wrong, except Frank.
Yep. Bless his heart.
I would like to know why he is fighting so hard for a small wound of only one punji stick.
Argh …
I still want to know what his VA disability rating is!
A PH confers substantial VA medical benefits, MCPO.
http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/assets/documents/publications/FS164-5.pdf
That could explain much.
Just my point.
Although a pain in the ass, legit serrvice connected injuries in the end most often become compensated for.
In the case of Frankfurter here … I seem to believe doubling down with his creative art work is means to an end!
But what do I know?
Hondo, it also gives you freebies, e.g., free license plates in TN, where our boy Frances lives.
Chief. At this juncture, I would guess that it is the timeless story of Stephen Crane’s Henry Fleming in the Red Badge of Courage–without the transformation that Henry underwent.
Oh, and Visconi – I think you might want to watch this short video and take it’s message to heart. It’s IMO quite apropos for you. (Warning: lyrics are NSFW.)