Sandy vajay-jay
There’s an article in the UK’s Daily Mail that links to a Glamour Magazine article from an Air Force lieutenant’s whining-ass story of her trip to Afghanistan. I don’t why she thought it would be of interest to anyone or why Glamour would bother to publish it. It’s actually worse than wading through Kayla William’s book and I never thought I’d say that;
In the November issue of Glamour magazine, she details how ‘long hours’, ‘drab meals of dry meat and soggy vegetables’ and constant ‘paranoia’ that something could happen at any moment, gradually took a toll on her mental state during deployment.
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Limited internet and phone service added to her feelings of vulnerability as did the fact she was a woman in predominantly a man’s world.
The the pretty brunette said that sexual assault a constant worry for her on the front line, because she ‘knew the stories’ and ‘overheard vulgar talk.’
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And back at her desk job as a public affairs officer, she found it difficult to maintain focus because ‘everything seemed trivial’ in light of what she’d been through.
I’ll tel you what, she’s not doing any favors for those women who want to be in combat jobs, or the Air Force folks, for that matter. It sounds like every pogue I’ve ever heard talk about how tough their deployments were, or their time in Graf or Hohenfels for a few weeks. I think she’d better brace herself, because if she thought that being a Public Affairs officer in Afghanistan was tough, I think she’s going to have it tougher when more people read this article.
vShe was eventually diagnosed with chronic adjustment disorder – a milder form of post-traumatic stress disorder.
I’m pretty sure that everything she has is milder than anyone else.
Category: Air Force, Dumbass Bullshit
No surprise here.
Maybe that Vet counselor, David T., or whatever his name was can chime in in this.
She’s clearly one of those people who had no clue what the military was about before she joined. Then she realized she might actually be in some danger and became paranoid about what ‘could’ happen to her and couldn’t cope.
Every female who’s done at least one deployment and came back without these issues are now rolling their eyes at this person who is adding fuel to the “women don’t belong in combat” fire.
I bet that Wildflecken would really upset the poor dear.
But, seriously, “Limited internet and phone service added to her feelings of vulnerability as did the fact she was a woman in predominantly a man’s world.”? She couldn’t get to Pinterest? She couldn’t text with her BFF, and that “added to her feelings of vulnerability”?
‘She overhead vulgar talk’?
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! That’s SOOOOOO sad!!! I feel SO NOT sorry for her.
Geezo pete, I heard crap from sailors and Marines constantly, some of it just to see what it took to embarrass me or upset me. As revenge, I used to wear this scoop-necked low-cut dress with a pushup bra at the EM club at Great Lakes when I shot pool in the stag bar. I did one time write “FUCK YOU” on my girls with eyeliner pencil, just for fun. 😉
Oh, those were the good old days, they were!
If that silly bitch is that wigged out about ‘vulgar talk’, she should really not come here. It’s one thing to be nice. It’s another thing to be an idiot.
air force LT worried about what might happen?!?!?!? whats going to happen to an AF LT? internet went out? the local base’s steak house was closed? did she actually have to wear a uniform and do PT? seriously, “vulgar talk” and “what she had been through”? what has this chick been through? SHES AN AF LT!
Chronic Adjustment Disorder is an entirely different diagnosis than PTSD. If she had PTSD symptoms that were “mild” she would be diagnosed with PTSD. If she had symptoms that weren’t quite enough for the diagnosis of PTSD it would have been Anxiety Disorder NOS. Chronic Adjustment Disorder means there was a stressor of some sort (deployment) that she could not cope with and impacted her functioning. Not even close to being a mild form of PTSD.
Oh, FFS, LT, grow a pair. You make me embarrassed that you are even in my beloved Air Force. I want to punch you in the face for being such a whiny little puss. You disgust me.
NavCWORet: IMO you’re dead on target. And it’s not just women who are clueless like that.
When I deployed, there was one individual in my unit (and a rather senior one, for that matter) who IMO appeared to get himself delayed in returning to theater from R&R for bogus medical reasons. My assessment was that he had simply stayed in the reserve components for the bennies – and when he actually got sent somewhere that involved modest risk to life/limb he “got scared” and tried to go home early. (We were on a major installation that got sporadic IDF, and one reasonably close call occurred shortly before he went on R&R.)
He ended up getting himself put on temporary medical hold and was delayed in returning to theater for a while. But he ended up coming back to theater and finishing his tour. (smile)
Well, that escalated quickly. I loaded the page and before I finished reading the article 7 comments already.
I taught plenty of females at AIT who were tougher than some of the males and went into shittier places than this LT went to, I’m quite sure of that.
For a “Public Affairs Officer” to say this kind of thing is disturbing. But again, another person who joined the military not comprehending the fact that they’d get deployed somewhere and have to live without everything they have at home (even in the Air Force.) (let alone, how many Public Affairs LT’s wear 200+ rounds of ammo? I’m not saying it isn’t possible, but really?)
I had a few students who also didn’t expect they’d deploy. why? Because recruiters told them what they wanted to hear to get them in, but even saying that, it is still the military and we go to many un-fun places. People who join without expecting that are just deluding themselves, regardless of what a recruiter says to them.
Last Graf Aug 2008
Ok, I know I’m dating myself with this question, but here it goes: How many of you guys ever had a whiney-bitch fit because you weren’t able to have phone access or internet access (that’s a trick question, because Algore hadn’t invented the internet, yet), or didn’t get 3 hots and a cot to sit a play fucking video games, etc.?
She’s a fucking commissioned officer for gawd’s sake!! I think the little diva needs to resign her commission and just gtfo.
give this whiney tart an hour with my wife- she’d give her wall to wall for a good hour. She would pound her into the ground to be back in uniform. This the stereotype that women try to break- and here she goes making the case.
My Grandma says that Stereotypes exist for a reason: people do it to themselves. Grow up and put your pants on. I know female soldiers and Airmen that can tow their line. Quit making it harder for them
@8 – Hondo, I know plenty of Soldiers who did that as well. I even have a former Soldier who “shot himself in the foot” literally, as if that actually worked after the first guy did it decades ago.
It pisses me off because I know of a few who begged and pleaded to deploy, but weren’t able to for one reason or another. I consider myself fortunate that I volunteered and got to do 3 deployments.
Worse thing. I know of a whole unit in Hawaii that does that. A unit in Hawaii that has 1 deployment in 60 years because the leaders keep it off the radar so they can do their 20+, get out and not worry about doing anything but going on exercises.
Tell her that this USAF Brat says to Shut The Hotel Up! Adjustment disorder? Try changing schools 17 times while your parent is deployed to a war zone repeatedly. Glamor Mag needs to take a look at the young daughters of military personnel who move to the ends of the earth to support their parents’ missions, who don’t mind giving up Christmases and Thanksgivings, or their dads seeing them in their first HS play or just miss the prom because they have to move. That’s a story of sacrifice that should be told.
Eric: I hope you were able to prove malingering and that the guy who shot himself in the foot did time.
Most of the folks I served with in the reserve components were pretty good soldiers/sailors/airmen/Marines. But there were indeed a few whose a$$ I wouldn’t p!ss on if it were on fire.
Leadership by Example. She’s doing it wrong.
Having said that, she’d be a perfect fit for the White House PR staff.
I should have re-upped in the 1990s. I missed all the good stuff.
I am sad.
Hell, I came back in after a nine year break in service to get deployed, and that WAAAAH=fest from an Air Farce PA Desk Jockey? Jeeez-Loooweeze, and some Zoomies wonder why we Army types bag on the Air Farce? I know some Military Spouses that would give her a good “counseling” about her attitude, what’s her background? Was she some “Daddy’s Little Girl” that went through college on Scholarships and expected everything to be given her on a silver plate?
My favorite is when they all show up pregnant before you deploy. And over half are not even married.
Then out of the 12 only two carry to full term.
And you cannot say anything about it.
I wonder what the two women that we had on my COP with a Company of Infantrymen would say about this? Those two were more vulgar than the rest of us. They sucked everything up and did their jobs without complaint. We treated them with the respect they deserved, not because of their sex, but because they did their jobs. I’d be willing to say that they would laugh at this “soldier”.
#20 was me.
re:#14
“don’t mind giving up” should say “are Proud to give up”
Setting herself up for the inevitable release from service and a service-related %100 I&U claim.
The poor dear…..
off topic possibly stupid question, what the hell is an ‘H’ identifier?
Looking back, some of the FOBs and camps we went to that had shitty food- was actually good for my fatass…I lost some weight. But when we went back to pogueville in Baghdad, I found it all.
Is this for real, or did some “writer” looking for hits just make this up?
I am betting she is the butt ugliest USAF officer since they took over the US Army Air Corps in 1947.
And her concerns about sexual assault were misunderstood feelings about the attention she would never have.
Just sayin’!
Sexual assault is a serious issue … But making it an issue when it has not happened is complete BS!
Any questions?
Then carry on!
Chronic adjustment disorder? Is that another way of saying failure to grow up?? Inability to face reality???
Based upon the other quotes, assuming that they are even marginally correct, adjustment disorder seems like a serious understatement. Unfit for command or even continued membership in the USAF sounds like a more appropriate “diagnosis.”
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“…and constant ‘paranoia’ that something could happen at any moment…”–Yeah, like the coffee maker breaking or the DFAC running out of ice cream…good lord.
i dont know why i read that again, but im so pissed at this chick, i can barely see straight. ok, i know i was infantry and we are kinda expected to endure tougher situations, bu a comparison between camp justice in kazimiya district of baghadad in ’04 to her complaints. “dry meat and soggy vegtables” the broad had meat! and it wasnt stray dog?!?! we would get mermites of left overs from 2 days prior camp victory d-facs sometimes. we looked forward to those, they fed camp victory some good stuff. they had steak and lobster mondays. we used to fight over whos patrol would take a detainee to camp victory on mondays (seems strange, we were always detaining someone important on mondays right before dinner chow). limited phone and internet services. we had no internet at all and our phone was a sat phone that we could only use in the battalion TOC for 15 min once a week! thats assumeing we werent under a communications black out which was about every week. we got a hadji shop with computers and internet towards the end of our stay there, but the internet never actually worked, the hadjis just wanted to charge us for being on the computers for hours trying to get the internet working until our hopes finally died. the phones that place installed cut out about every 45 seconds, but they still billed ya for the entire time ya were trying to get reconnected. fear of sexual harassment on the front lines? putting aside that no one has ever heard nor seen an AF LT on the front lines, we had no women, we had to sexually harass the skinny little 13F that was assigned to our plt (he was a pretty boy, but a little tall for my liking). that gets awkward after a while, but then ya get used to it and its alright. vulgar talk, i have nothing for this, but she was surrounded by other officers that im sure treated her with kid gloves, but i cant say that for certain. im… Read more »
follow the link at the bottom of the article and you get directed to her blog and this little gem:
Of course, any shooting death is tragic. But a perpetrator with military connections makes it doubly tragic for the veteran community. Cue the ripple effects of reinforced stereotypes. – See more at: http://uncamouflaged.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00-05:00&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00-05:00&max-results=6#sthash.09LrI4xv.dpuf
“Cue the ripple effects of reinforced stereotypes. ” – I shot coffee out my nose!
Insert face palm pic here…
Dear Sweet Mother Of Gawd In Heaven Above….
It does NOT surprise me that she was a PAO – in 20 years I never saw one, male or female, who was comfortable being outside of that nice office in Wing HQ unless they were out on the flightline hero-worshipping the pilots. This lady NEVER should have been given a commission in the first place, much less allowed to be in a war zone. She had to have been convinced that there was no way she’d ever get anywhere near those nasty old Taliban since she didn’t have a ‘combat job’.
Mike
OK, I read that article. Since Miss Lauren Kay was not shot at, as far as I can tell, I fail to understand how she has ‘memories of war’ that ‘affected’ her, other than finding that she’s another spoiled little snot who got a job right out of college and found out it wasn’t what she really wanted.
Also, her transition to civlian life – having to decide to wear tailored clothes and high heels? — WTF? Unless I’m mistaken, a tailored suit and pumps is a standard undress uniform for women in all branches of the military. It used to be labeled service dress (as opposed to full dress) but it was NOT anything unusual, and wearing utility clothing (dungarees and chambray shirts when I was in the Navy) for grungy work was also standard.
I have never heard such obnoxious, godawful, spoiled snot whining in my life.
She went to a LOT of trouble to spit in her own face.
Wow. Clicked the Daily Mail link. Some pics of the LT. Definite “queen-for-a-year(9 months)”. Probably traumatized when she got back stateside and found herself average again. Had to fight the urge to laugh just to make it through the article. Never realized it was so hard being the epitome of REMF. Funny thing is that all the comments on a British “news” site came from people in the states. You guys should demand a fee for sending all that traffic!
Wrench Monkey: don’t you just love that “nose in the air” lead picture?
I see she’s back in school to learn to non-fiction writing. needs to rethink that. She’s already on her way to writing the AF version of “Fobbit”.
Hondo: classic “badass hero looks to the future”!
@34.
Tell us how you really feel.
I just blogged this too. That photo makes me want to cunt punt her.
That photo makes me want to re-up right now. Skinny spoiled bitch who has to take a deep breath to have boobs.
Do you think they’d take me back?
My only experience with PAOs was that the only time they answered their phones when the President or brass was supposed to visit. Or if something was supposed to happen on Freedom Crossing. Every other day, I’d turn the media back at the gates until 1) the press camp escort showed up, or more often 2) the escort no-showed and the media would give up, and later I would be briefed (and promptly disregard) that someone complained about MPs turning back the media at the gates even though no escort showed up.
Life on Bliss.
@35-she’s about a down range “4”. When you get tired of your hand, she’d be hot
I just read story saw the pics … Again, I was spot on … Ugly and not getting the attention she wanted and thought she deserved.
Comparing this deployment (Shank/Bagram) to my first (Iraq, March 03 to January 04) is a joke.
I don’t have to shovel or burn the poo, and rarely even smell the poo. I can call home more often than I want to (honestly, I miss the single 10-minute call a month we got from around July to September, and even the complete lack of communication we had during the invasion). Computer access is easy to come by (via Sniper Hill or being/knowing a staff puke). Above all else, technology like Facebook and Youtube makes it easier to connect with those back home or to get a brief distraction from the stresses of deployment.
Also, since deploying I haven’t eaten a single MRE (okay, maybe a side dish or two at some point). Ten years ago we were excited to get t-rats once a week for something different; MREs were still eaten at least twice a day for six months. Compared to my month at Manas, this is roughing it. We get a rocket or two on occasion, run out of milk and yogurt sometimes, and have to settle for near beer. FOB Shank is much, much rougher living than Bagram, but still a very high standard for an Infantryman unaccustomed to real mattresses.
I have no idea why she wrote that, unless she’s simply been surrounded by civilians too long. In the civilian world we can sometimes let ourselves be misled by those who have no honest idea of what “roughing it” is. I feel for her–not because she actually had it rough, but rather because she thinks she had it rough. She wouldn’t have lasted as long as she did outside of Public Affairs.
The fact that she is a Seattle native might explain most of it.
And, no, in case anyone is interested, she does not represent in any way, shape, or form the typical USAF female.
I wonder how much she slept around while deployed?
WrenchMonkey: it struck me as more like an example of the “I’m royalty, and all of this (and all of you) are beneath me” attitude.
Unless her family has $$$ or serious connections, with that attitude I’m guessing she’s got one hell of a shock coming when she starts looking for employment again.
I’m trying to figure something out. I told a friend of mine I’d write to her nephew (USMN LCPL) while he’s over in A’stan. Is mail being delivered over there or not?
The hardest part of my USAF deployment was being around stupid assholes like this, and the otherwise unemployed 1st Sgts & E-9s whose only function in life was to play PT sock police. Getting the mission done was the fulfilling part, at least for those of us who had an actual mission to hack.