Breanna Manning faces 25 to 60 years today
The Washington Times reports that military judge, Colonel Denise Lind will decide to day whether she’ll accept the defense proposal that manning gets 25 years for his espionage activities against the united States, or the prosecution’s request for a 60-year sentence;
On Monday, prosecutors asked the judge for a 60-year sentence, arguing that Manning should spend most of the rest of his life in jail because the secrets he released put other Americans in danger and ended up costing the U.S. government money.
Manning’s defense attorneys see differently. They say he should have to serve only 25 years in prison because he didn’t mean to cause damage to the U.S. government but intended only to expose wrongdoings — like a whistleblower.
The defense said that Manning shouldn’t have to waste his “young life” in prison, but that’s going to happen anyway, isn’t it? But then, he’s got time getting cut from his sentence for being “tortured” at Quantico. So he’s got that going for him.
Category: Shitbags
Too bad we don’t hang traitors anymore…
Split the difference and call it 45 years. Torture at Quantico? I think not. While this guy is turning his life around at Ft Leavenworth, jihadist hasan is still breathing air. Hang em both seems to me to be the most cost effective response. Even if liberals believe execution is not a deterrent, it sure will deter both of them from doing it again.
For the record, I’m betting on 30 years.
@#3, Jonn, so 30 years is the line? I’ll take the over then. I’m thinking Brianna gets 40-45 years.
I’d like to see 60 years, but I’m guessing maybe 35 to 40.
As Ranger on Action Figure Therapy says…
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/someone needs to buttfuck his soul.
Whatever it is, it won’t be enough. I’g gladly and loudly support “For the rest of your life, natural or unnatural”.
I’m going to be different and say 50.
35
Are we starting a pool here? I’ll take two blocks, 40-45 years.
@Ex-PH2, I think you’re going to be on the money. The judge will split the difference somewhere, and I think your range is very likely. I’d like to see it closer to the prosecution’s request, too.
I prefer that breanna “accidentally” falls down the staircase after her sentencing and breaks her purty little neck..but I’m just day-dreamin’, so please ignore me…
The line ought to be at 40 years, but I don’t think Lind has the cojones to go that high. I figure she’ll go a little more than the defense wants to look like a hard-ass. I honestly don’t think she’ll go to forty or higher.
Hopefully he gets what the prosecution recommended – as a minimum. I personally wish the judge would max every damn sentence and order them to be served consecutively. If he never sees another day of freedom in his life, that’s fine with me.
Every day Manning spends above the ground, even in prison, is still better a better deal than Khalifa Abdullah received after Manning’s leaked documents exposed him to the Taliban.
I’d like to live long enough to see his funeral with an open casket, so that I can look at his lifeless eyes and wave my fingers at them. (Paraphrasing B5)
Ex-PH2: I’d like to do the same, but for a different reason.
Someone would plant flowers or grass on the little turncoat’s grave.
They’d need watering.
He shouldn’t get one day less than the full 60 years — but that won’t happen. He’ll probably get a little more than the minimum. And if he’s eligible for parole, he won’t even do the minimum.
I’m with Jonn, 30 years.
Should be facing death.
PintoNag: one of our LE or lawyer types can correct me, but I don’t believe Federal prisons do parole any more. Leavenworth DB is a Federal prison.
Biermann: agreed, but the Army took the death penalty off the table before the trial. Never understood why.
Thanks, Hondo. I didn’t know if he’d have a chance at parole or not.
35, and he ought to be thanking his little ghey gawd Lady Gaga he’s only getting that.
Keep in mind that long sentences get routinely reduced for good behavior, etc.
valerie: under Federal law, a Federal prisoner does get good time – but the accrual rate is less than 13% per year. The bastard will serve 87+ percent of any sentence imposed.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3624
I can live with him serving 87% of the max the judge can give him – if he lives that long.
Yah, if he goes to general population for 50-60 years, I’ll be satisfied.
Plus, s/he’ll get time serve credited for the time he spent at Quantico.
The handling of this case and the Hassan case is pissing me off!
Shoot them both. On national TV. During prime time.
-or-
Turn them loose on a deserted island and give the families loaded weapons and let them hunt. Televise it.
I’d like to see the reduced max. Not banking on it. Think Jonn’s analysis is sound, sad to say.
FMR PAO: the latter works for me. Regarding the former, I don’t think either of those turncoats merit a firing squad. That’s a military, dignified execution.
A public hanging like any common criminal is more IMO what they deserve. I’d suggest an old-style British drawing-and-quartering, but that would run afoul of the Constitution.
Well, the DB is two story, so here’s hoping that someone tries to teach Breanna to fly from the second tier.
The time he/she receives will not matter.
Obama will pardon him going out the door.
All things being equal, I am thinking the little shit turd gets the whole 60. At least that is what I am praying for. The second order effects of a 60 year sentence will be that all of the Hollywood tool bags who have decided that “they are Breanna” will have to live with their hero rotting in prison for a long, long time. At least until they grow bored with his cause and move on to the next trendy news story.
I would like to see life in front of a firing squad for the little bitch, but that’s just me.
No, I’m not a proponent of the death penalty in most cases, but sometimes, justice involves removing someone from the gene pool. Hasan should be right behind Manning.
The full 60 would be 52.2 years after time off for good behavior.
Manning is 25 today, but has been in custody about 3 years. He’ll almost certainly get credit for that – which means he’d be eligible for release at about (25 + 52.2 -3 ) = 74.2 years old.
I kinda doubt he’ll have much in the way of Social Security (if he even qualifies – he’d need 40 calendar quarters, and I don’t think he has that; and I don’t think he gets Social Security credit for any work he’s paid for in prison [but I could be wrong]).
So, he’d be released at age 74.2 with no Social Security, no pension, presumably zero net assets, and needing to work a few years before he has a prayer of drawing even a pittance from Social Security.
Not my preferred option, but I can tolerate that.
@35: Federal sentences are served in full, there’s no time off for good behavior.
Old Trooper: 18 USC 3624 appears to say otherwise. Not positive if that applies to military prisons or only those run by BOP, though.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3624
Perhaps you’re thinking about parole, which was abolished for Federal prison sentences in the 1980s.
38, pauper’s grave, and that’s my final offer.
All you B5 fans (and I know that has to be at least one more of you out there); I give you Vir Cotto’s statement to Mr Morden;
“I’d like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike, as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this.”
@37: I was thinking military prison.
If my suggestion would be taken, we wouldn’t have to worry about “time off”………….know what I mean? 😉
Old Trooper: haven’t definitively found anything that says whether or not 18 USC 3624 applies to the USDB or not. I’d guess it does (the USDB is a Federal prison, after all), but things under the UCMJ are often different.
I agree with you regarding your suggestion. Unfortunately, as I noted earlier the Army took that option off the table pre-trial re: Manning.
Well, it looks like we won’t find out anything about the traitorous twerp’s fate until tomorrow at 10AM EDT:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/20/manning-leaks-trial-sentencing/2675829/
#42 ugh I was about to post the news 😛 got me!
IMHO, it ought to be:
1. Rope.
2. Tree (or Gallows).
3. Breanna Manning.
Some assembly required.
[i]Colonel Denise Lind will decide to day whether she’ll accept the defense proposal that manning gets 25 years for his espionage activities against the united States, or the prosecution’s request for a 60-year sentence…[/i]
Judge Lind is not bound by the requests of the parties. While it’s typical for the sentence to fall within that range, she can do what she likes. Also, there’s no minimum for these crimes – there are almost no minimum sentences in military law at all.
For the rules on military sentences, check out Army Regulation 633-30, page 9. For a sentence over 10 years, good time is 10 days per month – that is to say, a third of the sentence. And yes, parole is possible, unless there is a very recent change I don’t know.
P.S. – I mean, it’s typical for a sentence to fall somewhere between what the Government asked for and what the defense asked for, but that is by no means a requirement.
Hang him high…
35 years. Ok, who called it?
Not nearly, nearly enough.
http://cnet.co/1artkqf
I can see the tenor and tone of this blog/post already – perhaps the entire blog without having to go any further really by the inclusion of insults in the title i.e., “Breanna” – very immature!!!
As a disabled veteran (100%) I have earned certain rights that go above and beyond what we are accustomed to when considering the ‘gift’ of “Freedom of Speech” accorded to all Americans as outlined in the Bill of Rights. Anyone here with an inkling to abridging those rights and freedoms by using foul mouthed words etc., can go pound sand.
Bradley Manning never had a traitorous intent. He’s in the same class of whistle-blowers as Edward Snowden, Michael Hastings et al.
All you veterans out there who served honorably should be especially mindful of what the what your friends and fellow service persons FOUGHT AND SOMETIMES DIED FOR – I am talking about FREEDOM and most particularly – freedom from an oppressive surveillance state – an over-reaching dictatorial government.