Micah Turner; deserter (Updated)
Phil sends us a link from YouTube which was posted on October 6th of Micah Turner. AKO says he was a sergeant at Fort Bragg and he’s surrounding himself with smelly hippies celebrating the fact that since he went AWOL 30 days before this video, he’s now a deserter. It looks like he’s making his little press conference at the Occupy DC camp a few blocks from the White House.
I think he’s trying to make a point, but since the war in Afghanistan is over, for all intents and purposes, I don’t know what that point could be.
Yes, I know people are still fighting and dying in Afghanistan, but this administration is doing it’s best to not win the war. I also wonder why we’re still over there, but since this administration has as it’s only strategy to withdraw, former sergeant Turner is pretty much joining in the rush for the exits.
He kind of reminds me of Ward Reilly who claims he went AWOL in Germany to protest the Vietnam War at a time when there were no more combat troops in Vietnam. Yeah, I’m sure the hippies love Turner, but I think he needs a throat punch. Using your uniform to make a political statement is never cool. Luckily, he won’t be a sergeant long after he turns himself in at his unit, like he promises. And I’m sure there’s someone at his unit that will give him the throat punch he deserves.
Thanks to Phil for the video.
Update:Seems that he tried to turn himself into a local police station that did not seem interested in it. ALso it seems that he is all about the drama by taking photos of himself in front of a Army Recruiting station and at Fort Hamilton. Here is another video that was made yesterday by him.
Category: Antiwar crowd, I hate hippies, Occupy
He’s established his future career as a Democrat Senator and Presidential nominee in 20 years.
flog the tratior or just shoot him. Am sick and tired with all these limp dicks breaking their oaths. Big A needs to set an example.
He is a very funny fellow. I particularly enjoyed that part of his dissertation in which he spoke of duty. Does he think that those HE ABANDONED would not like to be standing on a corner anywhere in the US right now, free from the threat of harm; that they would not like to be able to see their families, go wherever they like and do whatever they wish? This holier-than-thou POS knows nothing of duty. I would very much like to spit in his eye.
He is guilty of the biggest of unforgiveable sins. He let the men on his left and right and his unit down.
He is a scumbag, nothing more nothing less.
CAB.
Weak sauce. Non-IN turd.
Roger that.
Love the ribbion rack as well.
Just curious but what does AKO have as his MOS?
Nice jump wings…maybe they’d look better down his throat.
Was actually thinking that the most honorable thing he has done is to remove the ribbons, leaving an empty rack. Kinda cool, for a numbnuts wannabe.
Regimental Crest says Signal. Tough gig.
By the way, he says he was in Psyops, but AKO says his basic branch was “25” – Signal. So he might have been a signal guy in a psyops unit (someone recognize the flash behind his wings?) but he didn’t really work in psyops.
@9. The word honor in any sense cannot properly be associated with this self-confessed deserter, OWB. He either pulled a Kerry–disavowing his ribbons–or he didn’t have enough w/o illegally supplementing them to make an impression. I believe he pulled a Kerry.
…celebrating the fact that since he went AWOL 30 days before this video, he’s now a deserter.
As far as the UCMJ goes, that’s not the case. Administratively speaking, this is the time to drop him from the rolls, but that’s not what makes him guilty of desertion. If he always intended to return to military control (i.e., turn himself in the way he says), then the crime is AWOL, not desertion. (Unless he willfully missed “hazardous duty or important service” – like a deployment, a train-up for a deployment, or something like that – in which case he’s a deserter no matter how soon he intends to come back.)
He is rocking the CAB (CIB for chicks) so he has to have deployed and been within 5,000+ yards of the enemy.
Fucking deserter turd.
The fact that you all can be so vicious to one of your own proves he is justified in his dissent.
“Sargent”?
@15.
Up your ass.
Nunya your comment is petty demonstrative of why people like him exist. He stopped being “one of our own” when he deserted. Don’t know of any military unit that smiles on it’s deserters.
How could one single line be fraught with so many issues? First, the tag, Nunya. That message is, I suppose, that this is none of our business. Then there’s the lone line which begins with “The fact” that we can all be so vicious. All people can be vicious. That is a fact. Whether what a few of us have said thus far is vicious is not a fact. It is an opinion. Then there’s “to one of your own.” That’s a real gem. If, by that, Nunya means that he is active duty, most of us here are not. Most of us are Veterans. If, by that, Nunya means to lump all current and former military together, then Turner has deliberately and purposefully removed himself from that group by his turning his back on his comrades and his duty to them and his country. Next up is the contention that our comments provide proof to justify his dissent. There are several problems with that. First, his statements do not qualify as proof of anything, other than his intent to separate himself permanently from the Army through desertion. Second, there is a logic problem. The comments came after the little speech he broadcast and the decision he made to desert. Lastly, his dissent is fine when he is a civilian or if he keeps it to himself while he does his duty. It is not fine while he is in service.
Other than those things, Nunya, your one line was fabulous.
@14…
I disagree about the CAB. FOs, Sappers, Cav Scouts, and a few other MOS’s get them and see just as much combat as anyone else.
Nunya..how original.
Once he decided to be a “deserter”, he ceased being “one of our own”.
Obviously you don’t get it, but I’m sure you don’t get many things. Carry on.
@20
After the IN has cleared the area. Big difference between clearing and random engagements.
I love the French OCCUPY Mustached Smiley Face Guy who always somehow makes it into these photo ops. He is standing right rear of the coward. The French guy is probably wearing a mask because his has two black eyes and a chipped front tooth because he was caught urinating in someone’s backyard garden.
Infantry “clears the area” for Cav Scouts and Sappers? Go tell them that. In any event, the enemy has adjusted its TTPs because we are vulnerable when we have to occupy an area, so why should they give their best punch to those who are clearing it. Warfare has changed since WWII (or Vietnam) and the establishment of the CAB reflects that reality.
Nunya seems to have posted from Weymouth, MA – home of Mark Shields (of PBS Newshour fame). Figures.
By the way, “Nunya” . . . his desertion is a military matter and IMO is nunya bidness.
Hondo … does the local police and closest Provost Marshal have a bead on him? These are easy arrests to make. If he gets up on stump during a rally, sanctioned or permitted are not, and says, “I deserted because, I amm AWOL because” etc … the rule is of thumb is: Once the rally is complete, approach and ask to see his military ID Card, the approach and questioning is based on his admission of a possible crime (both resonable suspicious and probable cause are satified), any sworn law enforcement enforcement officer can arrest a derseting coward. Once arrested turn over to closest Army Provost Marshal. The cool thing about handling this way: His right to Free Speech (bla bla bla bla bla) was never violated!
I am not retard … please don’t comment on meye spelling … I brpke mu glasses.
I learned a long time ago, never try to make any sense out of what retards do…because…if you can make sense of what they’re doing….you might get retarded. Yes you can catch retarded….it’s a proven fact.
@ CI …. Quite Pithy … Well Done … Thanks!
@15
If by “be so vicious to one of your own” you mean properly call out a less-than-worthless piece of shit, you’re absolutely right. If by “proves he is justified in his dissent” you mean “dropped off naked and trussed like a pig in the jungles of New Guinea where the cannibals roam with an apple in his mouth and a ‘Eat Me’ sign around his neck”, you’re absolutely right.
I’m guessing you didn’t mean it like that at all. I’m guessing you mean since he took the same, now broken, oath we did we should be supporting him.
I’m afraid you are abjectly mistaken. He ceased being one of us the moment he decided to abandon his oath, fellow soldiers, and his honor.
Punks like him make absolutely no sense to me. The military draft has been gone for decades. If you can’t cut it don’t join in the first place. When I volunteered in 1966 I served with many good men that were drafted. Each and every one of those men that I served with did what was required by their country. They may not have like serving but by god they manned-up and served with pride. These reprobate punks that join and then want to pull the anti war shit make me want to puke!
I forgot to say to all you from the all volunteer times, a big hand salute for you voluntary service!
@23 — The “French mustached guy mask” is actually a Guy Fawkes mask, which British kids wear on Guy Fawkes day, November 5. He’s the 17th century British soldier who fought for the Spanish Army and participated in the Gunpowder Plot to blow up Westminster on the opening day of Parliament under Robert Catesby. The plot failed because the barrels of gunpowder were discovered, and Fawkes was tried and executed across from the Parliament Building. The kids in Britain wear masks, beg for “a penny for the guy” and enjoy fireworks at night. I guess he represents the ultimate protester.
And by an odd coincidence of the calendar, the first Tuesday in November this year is November 6, the day after Guy Fawkes Day in Britain. Any guesses on how many masks we’ll see at polling places?
“It’s our duty to dissent.” No… this is the duty you sought out and got paid to do after you raised your right and and signed on the dotted line. You also got paid money to honor this oath.
I Micah Turner, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Fuck him.
@ Ex-PH2 …. Thanks (i knew that) … I was just SPEWING … plus he looks French …. and I thing some of you know how I regard the French … I love the people … But the word French …. any way …. ah …. blowing leaves now!
I agree with Cacti35. There is no draft any more. No one is requiring service in the military. It’s entirely voluntary. So what is the point of joining up, going through whatever training you’re given, and then going UA and/or deserting to become a protester? It does nothing but make the person who does that look like the moron he or she is.
Master chief, I love the food, the wine, the cheese and the people de la France. And now they are taking an aggressive stance toward jihadists by arresting 11 suspected jihadists and killing one who threw a grenade (prints on it) into a market in Sarcelles.
Combats avec tes defenseurs!
Sous nos drapeaux, que la victoire
Accoure à tes males accents!
Que tes ennemis expirants
Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire!
@24.
I have told them that. Usually sappers are augmented to the IN for breaches, demo works, etc.
No issue with them as they are in the mix. You missed the point.
@ 38 … is that Italian or something?
Mais non, mon ami. Ce n’est pas l’italien. C’est la langue français!
I missed the point?
You said, “Big difference between clearing and random engagements” in response to JP pointing out that Forward Observers, Sappers and Cav Scouts all get the CAB. Well sorry, but all those people have seen plenty of combat in the current conflict (as have, for that matter, Truck Drivers and MPs and others). This joker’s CAB may be “weak sauce” (as you said), but the fact is that the kind of combat that we had in the past, with a “forward line of troops” to distinguish between the front and the rear, doesn’t exist any more. I don’t have a CAB (I do have a CMB), but I’ve put in the paperwork for my soldiers to get one and they were all well deserved, even if they weren’t serving with the “teeth arms”.
This is the best translation I can give you:
Struggle with your defenders.
Under our flags, let victory
Hasten to your manly cries!
May your dying enemies
See your triumph and our glory!
What d’you want? It’s French. It doesn’t translate. Il es si rempli de poisson.
A coward does not volunteer to risk his life for his country in wartime. A coward does not serve in four combat tours– three in Afghanistan and one in Iraq. A coward does not then offer himself up to arrest, solitary confinement and imprisonment for god knows how long. Micah Turner is brave. He is a man who takes courageous risks. He risked his physical life for his country and now he is risking his character for life to bring an end to a war that is over. Bin laden is dead. Bring our troops home now, safely, and with dignity. Let no man label him a coward.
Sporkmaster: It should be noted that this seems very similar to a story we have heard before.
Ahhh, phase two begins…
@42.
I do not have an issue with the CMB.
Medics walk with us.
However, the critera for a CAB is very loose and very subjective, unlike the other two.
@44.
If that is true, good for him.
However, it all went down the drain the day he deserted.
Deserters are scumbags. Plain and simple.
No Eileen. There is nothing brave, honorable, or admirable in a man who forsakes his oath, desert their duty, and abandons those in his charge.
This man is a Sergeant (at least until he is sentenced for AWOL/Desertion). That makes him in charge of people, people who would and should have looked to him for guidance and leadership. If he’s truly done four tours of combat, he owed it to those he served with to be there to instruct, aid and assist those in his charge, in his unit.
Now, who knows who’s going to get killed because this individual took it upon himself to continue the services he SWORE to complete? He’s not going to be there for those who needed him. Is he going to go to the families of those in his unit who are kiled and apologize for his selfishness?
Because that’s really what we’re talking about here. Selfish.
Even if we take his purported claims at face value, we’re left with nothing but selfishness. We’re left with someone who has chosen to put his personal agenda ahead that of the service he swore to render.
He may have honorably served, but when he broke his oath, when he abandoned his unit, he lost all that and is now worthy only of scorn.
Micah Turner “sacrificed” himself for a cause in the safety of America under the protective cover of lawyers and advocates, while at the same time, he designated his position and those in his charge to fight a war without him, consequently forcing others to fill the void he created by abandoning his unit. That’s the epitome of a coward.
Micah will let the lawyers work to achieve his discharge (chapter 10, here we come…), which may cause him a bit of inconvenience as Ms. Maxwell suggests… The guy who must take his place in Afghanistan, or those who need to adapt without their NCO, face much bigger consequences. Regardless of what people think about AF at this point, Micah Turner will forever be dismissed as a coward… an opportunist…. a useful idiot… and perhaps worst of all, an extremely selfish individual with no integrity.
There isnt a single thing about what this turd did thats brave. He abandoned his duties for his own safety and well being. As an NCO he had junior troops who should have been looking up to him for guidance and training. Instead their mentor (as thats what a good NCO is) deserted in order to promote his own agenda. Turds like this one are whats wrong with not only our military but out society in general.