That shooting in Colorado
I’m sure you’ve already read or heard about the tragic shooting in Aurora, Colorado last night at a showing of the movie “The Dark Knight”. I’m hearing that 15 are dead and 50 others are injured. But, as tragic as it is, the media, and especially Fox News, have made me not care about it anymore because of their idiot coverage of the event.
Apparently, the gun man threw a smoke grenade into the crowd before he opened up. How do I know it was a smoke grenade, because the idiot reporters are calling it “possibly tear gas”. Yeah if it was tear gas, there would be nothing “possibly” about it. You’d know if it was tear gas.
Yeah, I heard witnesses complain about irritation to their throats and trouble breathing, but smoke grenades do that, too. Like I said, if it was tear gas, we wouldn’t be wondering what it was.
But I don’t know how long Fox News can continue to repeat the same tired descriptions of the event without telling viewers something new, but I guess they’re going for the record. At least some of the other channels are reporting other news instead of running the same video in a loop over and over. I don’t think they’ve even told us what the weather is yet.
Category: Media
My brother lives in Aurora, and my Dad moved there yesterday.
🙁
I have a friend that just got back from vacation in Aurora. He was visiting relatives.
I’m glad they at least caught the prick and he wasn’t able to take himself deep, before being captured.
Caro’s Grandmother and Grandfather live in Aurora too. But we’re pretty sure none of our relatives were at the midnight showing of Batman.
BTW- Don’t watch Matt Lauer, he’s even worse. “AK Assault Rifle” “Tear Gas” what, no WMD?
I’m hearing he was a white 24 year old dressed in riot type gear and had a gas mask with him.
Uh…2nd amendment “national discussion” is suddenly in play during the Presidential debates – Learjet liberals/MSM will make sure of that.
Yes, we get desensitized to tragedy – people can only hear it so long before they tune out and get on to other business. 9-11 unfortunately was poster child for endless repeat of same stories, then politics gets thrown into mix to exploit an agenda – people quickly get fed up, throw up their hands and say f*ck it. The tabloid media just eats this stuff up – they hate slow news days w/o scandals, controversy, or tragedy. This sounds terrible, but these events advance the careers of news anchors – Geraldo Rivera/Anderson Cooper/Shepard Smith/Nancy Grace anybody?
waiting on psycho veteran meme in 5…4…3…2…1…
Maybe they are trying to get those of us who just now turned on the “news” up to speed? 😉
Interesting that one of the first statements I heard was an official declaring that the feds do NOT consider this connected with “terrorism.” Whatever that means.
I was a police officer in Aurora from 1975 to 1982. It was and continues to be a very violent city. The last mass shooting prior to this was at the Chucky E Cheese in 1993 where 5 employees were shot, resulting in 4 deaths. Right now all the tv personalities are saying how normal Aurora is, it isn’t. My daughter lives in the Tech Center and I worry about her even going near Aurora.
Wasn’t this close to Columbine HS where that massacre was back in the day? And I am hoping this wasn’t a vet. I can’t stand to hear more civilians talk about PTSD when they don’t know what they are talking about.
As for the news channels, they will keep showing the same footage because they need visuals for their stories. Another reason why print is better. we don’t keep showing the same pictures over and over again.
Andy in Peoria
Andy – Columbine is on the other side of Denver. Aurora is east; Columbine in southwest. So, “close,” yes, depending upon one’s persoective.
Watching it all morning. #7, one of the sites already mentioned the Nidal Hasan shooting along with this current one as part of a serial shooting discussion.
Oh, good, now he was a “mass gunman” according to the blonde airhead on F&F, whatever her name is. I’m waiting for her to say he was using “high capacity ammunition” like the media told us in the Loughner shootings.
Getting my coverage here: http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx . They were just playing scanner audio of the first cops on scene calling for gas masks and reporting the smell of OC in the theater, for what ever that’s worth. Also reporting that the shooter is 24yo James Holmes, car had Tennessee plates.
ABC reports that the purple lipped socialist made this statement:
In a statement, President Obama said, “Michelle and I are shocked and saddened by the horrific and tragic shooting in Colorado. Federal and local law enforcement are still responding, and my administration will do everything that we can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time. We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded.”
He had to of known about this weeks before it happened in order for him to be off the golf course and actually think of something to say on his own … and why in the heck are the feds responding?
Well thank God for minor miracles: “Federal authorities told NBC News that Holmes has no military history.”
Reorted that one of the cops said they needed gas masks to go in because the they could not breathe – sounds more like some form of tear gas than smoke. Apparently this clown was wearing body armor and is reported to have started with a shot gun and switched to a rifle. And yes, I’ve already seen “no word yet on whether this was a troubled veteran” and “maybe he was a vet, some of them are really screwed up” comments.
Some reported casualties included children of the 6 month and 3 year old variety – what the hell kinjd of parents take kids that young to a midnight show of a violent movie? With parenting like that, no wonder some idiots go off the rails.
“At least 50, including a child & baby, were wounded ….”
A child and baby at a midnight movie? WTF??
And this:
“Corbin Dates and Jennifer Seeger were sitting in the second row of the theater.
During the opening credits, Dates saw someone in the front row answer a phone call and walk to the emergency door in the front of the theater, he said.”
Also, according to this, it would appear that he did not just walk in and “open fire”.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118201/unknown-number-people-shot-at-aurora-movie-theater
FOX is reporting, “No evidence that shooter served in Army or National Guard”, what the fuxk is that about? What about a possible Nexus to terrorism, lone wolf, or just friggin plain CRAZIER that all get up.
What is the MEDIA really saying here?
I am pissed!
This guy jonn lilyea is a fucking idiot.. What do you think the news is going to do say it one time? You have millions of people waking up and turning their tv’s on.
So, they’re blaming Limbaugh for the shooting now.
And they are reporting “the theater was filled with children so those victims were taken to the nearby children’s hospital for emergency treatment.”
The father of the 6-yr old is reporting to have confirmed that that child has died.
In case there was doubt – we have infants and children being taken to a seriously adult, violent movie while adult male warriors watch that pony thing? Huh??
This has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with mental illness. His own mother knew it was him as soon as she saw the news. Obviously a ticking time bomb and nothing could be done until he did something first.
What the flying fuck?????
“A San Diego woman who was contacted by ABC News told reporters she was Holmes’ mother. She said had awoken unaware of the shooting and had not yet been contacted by authorities, but immediately expressed concern to ABC that her son may have been involved.
“You have the right person,” she said. “I need to call the police .?.?. I need to fly out to Colorado.”
http://the8tharmyvalue.blogspot.com/2012/07/colorado-shooting.html?spref=tw
^my thoughts. Incredibly sad and tragic event. I know this will stir up the politics of gun control and people will spin this every which way, but it seems moot right now.
The comPost has already begun speculating on the gun control angle, not surprisingly.
Looks like those luminaries of personal liberty, Michael Bloomberg and Piers Morgan (who???) are demanding more gun control. Yeah, cause that shit is really making a difference in Chicago and DC.
Upwards of 12 people die EVERY weekend in Chicago and they have very strict gun control laws.
Weasel Zippers has something about this dude blogging that he was going to do this ‘for the glory of the 9GAG army’. Other posters apparently egged him on and gave advice …
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/20/good-morning-america-tries-to-tie-colorado-movie-shooter-to-the-tea-party/
@22
The other tragedy is that this incident has already been weaponized for political theater. After Gabby Giffords shooting – fingers pointed to those nasty extremists like Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Fox News and Tea Party. We’re going to be seeing a rerun of that. Mitt Romney better get ready -because gun control and why the GOP “loves guns which kill people” crappola will become part of the debate leading up to November election.
Tea Party is being blamed by ABC… 🙁
Now lets say for a moment that in the movie theater there is a man or a women who has been trained by the Army, USMC, Navy, or AF… and they are currently carrying a firearm. They respond as they are trained to do and maybe just maybe you have fewer people killed or dead. Hell it could be your average Joe citizen who has been trained by someone to handle a firearm properly. The point is you never need a gun till you don’t have one.
It goes right along with Soldiers and dogs keep off the grass, that is until the shxt starts flying..
God Bless all of you who gave up so much for all of us and are always the first ones blamed when something like this happens…
CNN Natl Security ?@natlsecuritycnn
Some troops among the #theatershooting casualties, but @PentagonPresSec but couldn’t say how many troops were shot or state of injuries
CNN Natl Security ?@natlsecuritycnn
Buckley AFB in Aurora, CO tells @BarbaraStarrCNN some of the injured are from that base
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^Just tweeted
Tear gas…gee, nobody was crying,puking, or leaving with a 2 ft trail of snot leaking from their noses? I’m with you, Jonn…Get it right, FFS.
Yep. ABC did good in finding another connection instead of the veteran meme. Of COURSE it had to be a Tea Party member: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/aurora-abc-draws-possible-tea-party-connection-129568.html
How odd that they never manage to report similar crap about shooters that happen to be college profs or registered Dems, or pick any other category which might reflect badly on the leftist agenda.
Pitiful.
OWS?
http://www.pibillwarner.com/2012/07/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-holmes.html
Our buddy, Jeff Schogol at the Air Force Times writes about troops shot in Aurora.
@34 The Tea Party is perceived as having more of an ‘anti-government’ culture than most college professors or registered Democrats (at least during a Democratic administration). I’m not saying they should be leaping to all these conclusions so quickly, but that’s ‘why’ there’s an imbalance.
Whether he is a Tea Party member or not, it’s clearly not what drove him to do this – he’s an imbalanced nutbag, and that crosses party lines. Any affiliation, be it a registered Democrat, a Tea Partier or a gold-star member of the local Bronies fan-club, is merely a secondary issue that could have influenced a fucked up guy to do this shit. Plenty of members of those groups are perfectly well-adjusted sorts.. shit, even the Bronies people, at least compared to this guy.
Also, for what it’s worth, I’ve seen reports that he was a medical student who dropped out from UC Denver a month ago.
@34 OWB – Ahhh but ABC has now backed off the tea party claim.
and Breitbart found links that the shooter MAY BE a registered democrat
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/20/Exclusive-Dark-Knight-Shooting-Suspect-James-Holmes-Registered-Democrat
Git your screen shots now as all coverage of the shooting getting ready to be pulled
@37- I would agree that party affiliation is secondary to his being guano loco, but if what ohio posted in #35 pans out, that does say quite a bit.
Right up there with those three worthless jerks from the Occupy Chicago Black Bloc, who got caught by the Chicago cops, when they were building incendiary bombs in beer kegs.
Man, I miss the 1960s. The SDS, the Weathermen and the Weather Underground made no bones about being violent.
These clowns must have fringe ax grinders everywhere, half-cocked and ready to roll.
@PH2- They wouldn’t if they were made an example of.
@39 I actually don’t think it says any more than if he were, say, a veteran. Or a Tea Partier. Or whatever. Sure, whatever affiliation he does have would likely have influenced him – be it PTSD, Rush Limbaugh, OWS, or the little green fairies he thinks are talking to him in Klingon.
To say it ‘means something’ is technically correct – chances are, whatever fucked up mentality drove him to do this was influenced by the people he was around, the groups he belonged to and the stuff he read. And it’s entirely possible the rhetoric from, say, OWS, is more incendiary than it needs to be. But the problem is, to focus on that aspect of things carries an implied notion that EVERYONE in those groups are susceptible to this sort of senseless chaos. And, on this board, where people hate the ‘PTSD/soldiers-are-scary’ idea with a passion, it’s frustrating to see a need to associate this with some group that’s disliked for political reasons.
In other words, it’s 99% ‘kid-fucked-up’ and maybe 1% ‘affiliated with groups that stir up shit’… and we shouldn’t focus on the 1% factor, especially not right now when the known information is still fluid.
Anonymous: your comment in 42 would be relevant- IF the mainstream media (MSM) didn’t focus on the “crazy vet” and “right-wing terrorist” memes first and foremost. Unfortunately, the MSM has done that since Vietnam, and only started being challenged in the 1990s. They also take the same tack towards the Tea Party at every opportunity.
Since the MSM likes to push the favorite “crazy vet” and “right-wing extremist” memes, I have no problem rubbing their noses in the fact that they were wrong. They were in the Giffords case (left-leaning anarchist vice initial MSM speculation of right-leaning/tea party extremist). Looks like they may well have slipped and showed their bias again here.
It would also be relevant, Anonymous, if the Black Block arm of OWS wasn’t KNOWN for their penchant for violence.
Can one participate in the OWS and not be violent? Absolutely. Can one be involved with BB and not be violent? Uh, no. That’s kind of what they do and whom they are.
I will also add for clarification that my statements regarding his being in BB, if that’s even true, are only to substantiate the theory that this person has a history of violence, which is also supported by the fact the statements of his own mother. I don’t mean that BB caused his violent tendencies, only that it would fit into his pattern, as laid out in such a short period of time.
@43 I know the MSM is ridiculous in their knee-jerk efforts to tie anything and everything gun-violence related to ‘PTSD / crazy vets’. I’m not excusing that by any means. I simply find that for either side it’s a losing long-term position to leap to conclusions and make blanket statements about large groups.
I think, or maybe ‘hope’ would be the better word, that a better approach would be not to rub their noses in it, but to take a high ground by pointing out the absolute fallacy in those knee-jerk reactions. Plenty of people in these larger groups are fine people – ones we may disagree with, but by no means inclined to shoot up random people in a movie theater. Take THAT position, and let the facts come in, and then if a splinter, violent faction (eg, some of the crazier militia types on the right and the Black Block types on the left/OWS) is shown to be the culprit, spare the larger group and strike at the rhetoric and mindset of the one that has some (still small) role in this with more surgical precision.
Otherwise, both sides just talk over people. In my naive mind, I like to think both sides can disagree but be civil, but we don’t get there going ‘eye for an eye’ in accusations on rapidly developing situations.
Floodgates have opened: MSNBCs The Alex Wagner Show had long segment on guns, the evil of guns, disgruntled people with guns, why gunowners need high capacity magazines, why gunowners need assault rifles and on and on. Oh yeah, plenty of blame for NRA who just have way too much lobby power in Washington – yes there are plenty of Democrats who love guns as well.
For now the politicos are keeping quiet out of respect for the victims, but you can be sure a sh*tstorm is brewing over 2nd amendment. The lefties see an opening…
@ 44/45 I admit to knowing nothing about the ‘Black Block’, but I’ll do some research. That said, if this connection does turn out to be true and if a pattern of behavior can be shown where BB does ‘radicalize’ him further, then by all means, I have no problem laying some blame at their feet. I simply think that this is a developing situation, and it drives me up a wall to see both sides clamoring to find a party or ideology to blame, when the affiliations will come out in time anyway… and have little (not none, but little) bearing on things.
If people want to talk gun control issues, I’m fine with that. But making this a liberal/conservative (or Tea Party / OWS) thing? Just madness.
For those rightly noting the media hype and inaccuracy….elected represntatives seemingly can’t help but to frame the event for their own purposes either.
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/louie-gohmert-aurora-shootings_n_1689099.html
No further gun control is needed- guns are totally illegal in Chicago yet a dozen or so are killed EVERY weekend there. So laws work wonders for us don’t they? I bet everyone in Cook County feels so safe knowing guns are illegal there…
@48- Oh, I’l lay all of the blame at his feet. My point was that it would appear that he’s been violent and it was no secret. His association with such an entity would only prove that. Politicizing it is just horseshit and the people doing so need to be whipped.
No. 49:
Oh No !! — REP GOHMERT (former Judge) is my favorite Congressman (= REP, or, SEN) .
No. 49:
Huff&Puff are LIARS !!
They (Jennifer Bendery) misrepresented, took out of context, and distorted, what REP Gohmert stated.
They have even been forced to correct — they quoted “a derelict” when Gohmert said “terror” — maybe, like Reuters, they refuse the concept.
REP Gohmert repeatedly stated that Colorado permits concealed guns, and he asked why no one stopped the maniac .