Dallas Wittgenfeld

| April 23, 2012

This guy’s records are a big question mark. He’s wearing a CIB, but according to his records, he was a commo guy in Vietnam, so there is no way he’s authorized to wear a CIB. He’s also wearing infantry brass with the blue background and a blue rope which he’s also not authorized to wear. But his FOIA says he was awarded a CIB;

But then I’ve never seen a FOIA that listed Letters of Commendation and Certificates of Achievement, either. So all of that makes me suspicious. Here’s his record of assignments from his Form 2-1;

The dates of his assignments coincide to the history of his two Ranger units, according to the 75th Ranger Regiment Association. But like I said, if he altered his military records to add the CIB, there’s no reason to believe he didn’t alter his assignments, too. The fact that he’s listed as a 05B20 while he was in Advanced Individual training is suspicious, too. I’m sure he wasn’t a Sergeant E-5 after four months of service.

And here’s a picture of him wearing a green beret at the Wall, and that’s a Purple Heart and Ranger scroll on his chest;

According to the Special Forces Association membership rules, he’s not eligible to be a member based on his assignments to Ranger units, so the green beret thing is right out.

You and I both know from looking at these records that he’s not authorized all of the infantry stuff, but how that CIB got in his records, I’ll never know, well, unless he gives up the ghost and tells us the truth. Not holding my breath.

Thanks to the folks at Scotty’s Hideaway, for the stuff.

Category: Phony soldiers

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Jeff

yeah that is a weird one

Right Rev Mr. Wolf

O5B20- that would be an E-5 Radio Operator..in AIT? NOT unless he had a previous MOS. I was an O5C10 in AIT- radio-teletype. Basically, a clerk-typist who could run a radio and type on a flintstone-era typewriter with a hammer. The Bravos were in class like 4 weeks; we had an extra 3 for the crypto-gear and teletypes. IF you had to learn to type from scratch, you could be there an additional 6 weeks just doing that. Luckily, I ‘typed out’ and went home after comsec portion.
I don’t see HOW this dude could have been a -20 in AIT….

rb325th

He was a 2O in AIT because he was a shake and bake NCO…
This guy is a pompous ass, self absorbed narcassist, and in general a total douche rocket..
He did serve in Vietnam, was awarded everything on his 2-1…
This guy loves to make threats, and to harrass folks who dare to ask questions of or about him.

Hondo

I’d guess this guy is just another lying bastard, and in some respects IMO he has already proven that (I’d love to hear his “explanation” as to why he’s been photographed wearing the Ranger beret, the Green beret, the purple heart, and the Infantry cord/discs – none of which his official records show he rates). But the LOCs in his FOIA could be legit, and there is a way he could legitimately rate the CIB. I can’t speak for the late 60s/early 70s, but as of the late 70s/early 80s some commands were still putting certificates of appreciation and selected training certificates into the OMPF. I checked my electronic records on file at DA (they’re still available to me online) and verified that I’ve got a couple of the former and one of the latter in my file. I seem to remember that GO-level letters of commendation could also be filed in the OMPF. So if Wittgenfeld’s personnel clerks were kinda anal-retentive about things, the LOCs on the FOIA might well be legit. Further, para 8-6.b of AR 600-8-22 specifically indicates that the 11B MOS need not be an individual’s primary MOS for award of the CIB. What AR 600-8-22 requires is that the individual be (1) assigned to an infantry unit, (2) be formally trained in and awarded an 11- or 18-series MOS (secondary MOS counts), (3) the individual is assigned and performing duties in that 11- or 18-series MOS, and (4) the individual participates personally in ground combat while performing 11- or 18-series duties. If Wittgenfeld was detailed to serve temporarily in an infantry position while assigned to an infantry unit in Vietnam, participated in ground combat while so detailed, and had previously been designated as having an 11-series secondary MOS, then he’d qualify. He’s got an Air Medal, so one possibility is that he got awarded an 11B secondary and detailed to serve as a door-gunner for a while. Don’t know how common signal or other enlisted guys in Vietnam getting awarded a secondary MOS of the 11-series was. However, if I recall correctly a couple of… Read more »

Hondo

Whoops – scratch my comment above about the purple heart. His FOIA shows he has the Purple heart w/bronze OLC, so at this point his wearing the Purple Heart is presumably legit.

Frankly Opinionated

This slimy piece of shit, Dallas Wittgenfeld, is in my sights. Whether or not he is as phony as he seems; he is a lyin’, thievin’ piece of steamin’ dogshit. Little to some, but not to me, he snagged a photo from a page of mine, then not only claimed it as his, but accused me of stealing it from him. The O-4 SF object in the photo would like to help me in bringing him an “awakening”. This is one dish that I will enjoy serving cold. Deland Florida, Skydive Deland, Orange City, Florida are all places of which I am very familiar. My day will come.

NHSparky

Shouldn’t be too hard to locate someone who was in the units this gent was in to verify bona fides. This one is out of my AOR.

Frankly Opinionated

Re, my comment #7: The photograph in question, taken 10/26/2011 at Rudder DZ, Camp James E. Rudder, Florida; can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2305774798949&set=a.2305741758123.2111250.1086639350&type=3&theater,

Strike and Kill

Dallas is a self absorbed asshole who was an RTO type clerk who was fortunate enough to get sent to an elite unit, although he was there, he loves to toot his own whistle with comments like “62 year old twice combat wounded Army Vietnam Veteran (real deal) War heroe of the Airborne Rangers.” And trys to profit from his Purple hearts. I found some obscure regulation that would support his claim to wearing the Blue Cord, even apologized to him, yet for all intensive purposes, I am still not comfortable with his claims. I spoke to a fellow from his old unit, who was an RTO too, and he stated that Dallas was there, and because of some grandfather reg Dallas was entitled to the CIB, but also in the same sentence, this fellow (who wishes not to be identified) stated a lot of the RTO’s would not wear the CIB because it “belonged to the Infantry.” This Dallas guy has no honor whatsoever…

SJ

Sure likes to wear an 82nd patch a lot even though he was only in the Div slightly over a year. At least he doesn’t wear it on right sleeve since he wasn’t there for DomRep or the 3/82nd in VN. Did that many RATT operators get Air Medals? Guess it is possible.

Tman

This is an odd one. Based on what I read above it seems like this guy is ‘legitimate’ in some claims, maybe not in others. Problems seems to be more with the guy himself, and a wish that all his claims were totally fake.

Frankly Opinionated

@# 12 Tman:
He is legitimate in one facet at least- He is a top-shelf liar and fabricator.

bkay

There seems to be a lot of this going on. So he is only part of what he claims to be and not all of it is fake like others I have seen recently. Why make it up, why not instead be proud of who you are and what you have done?

SJ

My error…he wasn’t a RATT op, just a RTO. Still question Air medal. What are the other badges (I recognize CIB and parachutist)? Picture isn’t clear.

The left arm fourige (spelling?) looks like what we wore in the 82nd, but only while assigned to the Div since it is a unit award from WWII. Do I remember right that the ribbons over the right pocket are also unit awards? Sure are a lot of them. Guess it helps the bling effect.

CI Roller Dude

This one is confusing….is he wearing ribbons on the right side????—would’nt there be unit cites there? All the years I was in I knew you had to hold a grunt MOS to get the CIB.

Strike and Kill

He only pays attention to the regs that help his cause, which is himself, the others not so much…..

JarHead

A D.U.I arrest while flying a plane, you have to be kidding but it was in the news paper. This in it’s self speaks volumes about this “honorable” individual.

NHSparky

BTW–memo to Dallas if/when you get here, if you’re gonna threaten to sue Jonn, don’t bother. The line is already around the block at the courthouse.

Hondo

CI Roller Dude: the ribbons on the right side appear to be unit decorations – though they all seem to be missing their gold frames. They’re authorized for permanent wear if you were assigned at the time the were earned by the unit.

Looks to be the PUC, VUC, MUC, RVN PUC, and RVN Gallantry Cross.

Scottys Hideaway

POWnetwork.org listing of Dallas Wittgenfeld http://pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1298.htm

Hondo

Well, IMO he certainly looks better by contrast. Blackbeard of Lesbos ain’t exactly the most attractive individual on this planet . . . .

Hondo

Looks like our “buddy” here is modest, too.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2007/08/11/veteran-looking-for-helicopter-to-help-iraq-soldiers-recover/

“I was proud of what I had done, and when I came back, I thought I was a hero — but no one else did.”

Gee, I wonder why.

NHSparky

Ah, Veterans Today. It’s all starting to come together now.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

You guys got it all wrong. Take a closer look … at the beret and mustache’ … it is MONTY … Gen. Bernard Law Montgomery!

teddy996

@26- LOL… I knew he looked familiar.

NHSparky

Actually Master Chief, he kinda reminds me of Doctor Bombay from the old Bewitched series…

OWB

Seriously – he really does look familiar. Maybe around some Florida Veterans events??

Scottys Hideaway

Dallas trying to defend himself from Stolen Valor…https://www.facebook.com/StolenValor/posts/256941497728788

OWB

Scotty – could you do a bit of cut and past for us? I really don’t want to increase his traffic by clicking to see what he posted.

But, of course, am curious. Thanks! 🙂

Strike and Kill

If he was so worried and cared about todays Vets then why his comments like “NOW LET’S SEE what all you youngster cry baby Vets have been obscessed with: RA 68037064, Dallas Wittgenfeld, is NOT a POSER” and “Soooo, let’s all go to the media and let them know how you disabled (non combat wounded) younger Vets (mostly Marines) treat the older 62 year old twice combat wounded Army Vietnam Veteran (real deal) War heroe of the Airborne Rangers.” and of course there is a butt load more from Scottys place, this shows what kind of a racist he is: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=356905914346604&set=a.307398489297347.61780.100000815946568&type=1&theater

Al T.

Hondo has it right. One of my SFC instructors had the CIB awarded as he was cross leveled into an 11B slot and OJTed for the MOS and subsequently awarded the CIB. This was at FT Huachuca circa 1977.

OEF_Veteran

Personally I want this bastard hung out to dry in the media around his HOR. If we can bring him out through the media it will do more to dropkick his ass than anything else. He thrives on the attention and if that attention suddenly turns negative it’s gonna hurt him right in his self serving wallet. I think the IRS should also be informed of his schemes.

Frankly Opinionated

I just posted on the Skydive Deland site at facebook, leaving this post:
“Y’all have a guy that jumps out there known as Dallas Wittgenfeld? You might want to let him know that he has gained a major space in the spotlight this weekend. He is the featured character in this post: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=29627
Perhaps it will bring him out of the woodwork,(or drive him into the Ocala National Forest).

Strike and Kill

I guess the thing that gets me the most is how he talks down to Vets of OIF/AFG like they are nothing, yet he claims to do all this crap for us, he claims to be 100% disabled, yet still can manage to jump out of planes, I am 100% and can’t get around without the use of a cane and brace for the rest of my days, and I especially hate how he tries to make a buck off of his Purple Hearts. I even came to bat for him over him wearing the Blue cord, what did I get??? He called me a POG, I have 17 1/2 years in as an 11B, while he uses some grandfather clause in the 670-1 to be entitled to wear a CIB, I earned mine, in my MOS….he ain’t worth the sweat off of any of you guy’s ass to me, a POG wannabe is all he is…

Nate

I am soooooo glad he came to our page to run his mouth. Let this be a lesson to everyone. When a stolen valor admin ask you politely for you to privately email your info do it and don’t be a bitch about it. He did this to himself by running his mouth. Your a sad sack of shit Dallas.

Dallas "windsock"

Dallas and I have exchanged “Words” and insults many a time concerning his “Tribute to every Unit he was in” Class “A” Uniform he has. He does not wear the 38th Inf Crests which go along with the D-151 patch…He would rather claim the switch over to “Ranger Unit” than admit he was in D-151 “original” for any amount of time. His 2-1 file, has him “departing Vietnam” (Casual) meaning PCS to us non Vietnam Vet types, on 15 November, the same time the Royal Thai Army “Volunteer Force” was being set up. in November of that same year…so there is no fucking way humanly possible that Dallas could have been with them, yet he makes claims of being attached or leading patrols for the “Thai Army” as a member RTAVF. He is a “hokey wolf”, a “phoney Bologne” as my Dear Mother would say. There are more discrepancies with Dallas’s stories and claims than one can shake a stick at. But the proof i in his File, and the time he spent over in “The Nam”. Which by the way was a total of maybe “8” months, 4 with the D-151, and “4” with the Arty Unit before he PCS’d back to the WORLD…Again…read the 2-1 over, minute by minute and read the Royal Thai Army Volunteer force Web page time line, and it does not add up together. History according to Dallas points in his favor. He is a Self promoter like “Wild Bill Hickcock” (and like “Wild Bill” his stories aren’t always based upon fact, but give an illusion of truth just for credibility and theatrical sack) He exploits his short time in Vietnam to establish a base of worship among the public, and advance his parachuting career. All he does is salute and jump a lot, salute and jump, salute and jump, and gives fellow veterans who try to correct him the “Bird”. He wants to be bigger than life, with his “Bigger than Life” parachutes, and banking on his Purple hearts and membership to “several Military units” to propel his civilian image, and create Dollars… Read more »

Rapidly Avenging Ranger

Dallas is 99-44-100% a goof ball. capitalizing on his little stint in Vietnam, as that 8 months was the total sum of his career, and forget about his “Drill sergeant” time…(or hat). and boy does Dallas love to wear “headgear”. All types, Ranger, SF, Flight helmets, WWII steel pots, but never a Maroon Beret…NEVER,,,always has to be “Special” and “elite” with “Dumas Windsock”, the Sky diving Thunder chicken clown from Indiana…what a worthless sack of Kimshi.. A “Nick Rowe” his is not…but what sort of stories does one expect from a “RTO”? A Commo guy, who realized a little too late, (like a biker who buys a Sportster instead of a BIG Twin HARLEY) that he picked the wrong MOS to wuff shit about. so he embellishes and adds too, and over inflates his exploits, and threatens anyone who questions his Abortion Class “A” photo…lol…

NHSparky

Wednesday afternoon lawsuit threat, Jonn?

Guess he didn’t know the quota was filled by 9:15 Monday morning.

NHSparky

ETA: Although the emailed threat should move him up a few spots in his bracket when the JMBSV Tournament comes around.

Seriously, there are so many of these guys falling out of the trees you’re seriously going to have to consider doing a regular tournament and an NIT-style for all those who just didn’t quite have the game to play with the big boys.

Yat Yas 1833

Jonn, I’ll gladly donate my lunch money to the “Jonn Lilyea Poser Going to Sue You Legal Defense Fund” if that’ll help!? What a forkin’ LOSER!!!

OWB

Oh, goody – another libel/slander deal? Or should the TAH Brigade get our “uniforms” squared away in case we are called out later in the day?

***OWB getting out the popcorn***

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Frankly Opinionated

Dallas, if you are reading these comments:
You are one lyin’, thievin’, sorry piece of shit. You lifted a photo of mine, and then demonstrated your dumbassery by telling me that I stole it from you. I don’t give a ratzazz about your service record, whether they be true or false, none of that. You accused me of stealing, and that will be your statement to suffer for. The person photographed would like nothing more than for you to stumble in to a certain Ranger Bar and tell the people in there, (actual school trained Rangers, now Ranger Instructors), that I stole “your” photo.
What was it that Sun Tzu said about a meal best served cold???

Z

1. Has anyone called the SFA about him? He has a cert saying he is a member but my 3 year old cousin can make one of those with photoshop. I’ve read where he states he was “awarded an honorary lifetime membership” and also that he applied for it. His retarded chicken new articles state he is a “former Green Beret”. Umm, why would he get an honorary membership then?

2. Fuck this guy. Got some friends at Bragg that would like to meet him. lol

~Z

Hondo

Yeah, Z, the SFA has been contacted. See the new article linked at comment 46.

Z

He claimed to have been awarded the membership as an honorary member. They wouldn’t do that for someone who spent a couple of months attached to a SF unit. He was actually PCSing during that time if the dates on his files are right.

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