“Napalm Girl” controversy

| May 20, 2025 | 19 Comments

You would think that the provenance of a fifty-year old photo would have been laid to rest long since, especially if it was a photo which not only won a Pulitzer Prize but became the iconic face of civilian tragedy in war, wouldn’t you? Seems you would be mistaken. World Press Photo is claiming the generally accepted photographer is, in fact, not.

“The Terror of War” is a black and white photo of refugees running down the road, often referred to as “Napalm Girl”  due to the naked, severely burned young girl who is central to the image.

The organization, which named the image “Photo of the Year” in 1973, announced Friday that it has “suspended” its longstanding attribution to retired Associated Press (AP) photographer Nick Ut. An accompanying report said the “visual and technical” evidence “leans toward” an emerging theory that a Vietnamese freelance photographer, Nguyen Thanh Nghe, took the photo.

It is the latest twist in a controversy sparked by “The Stringer,” a documentary that premiered at the Sundance Film Festival in January claiming Nghe, not Ut, captured the iconic photo of a naked girl fleeing a napalm attack during the Vietnam War. Nghe was one of more than a dozen people stationed at a highway checkpoint outside the village of Trang Bang on June 8, 1972, as 9-year-old Phan Thi Kim Phuc and other villagers were mistaken for the enemy and bombarded by the South Vietnamese air force. (A year later, Ut won the Pulitzer Prize for the picture.)

The film contains allegations that Nghe sold his photo to the AP before editors intervened to credit Ut, who was the agency’s staff photographer in Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) at the time.

Note that “leans toward” and “allegations” phrasing.

A reconstruction of the scene by Index, based on a “geo-based timeline,” suggested that Ut would have needed to have “taken the photo, run 60 meters (197 feet), and returned calmly, all within a brief window of time,” World Press Photo said. The organization described that scenario as “highly unlikely” though “not impossible.”

The AP, meanwhile, has disputed the 60-meter figure, saying that Ut’s purported position on the highway — which is based on “shaky,” low-resolution footage filmed by a TV cameraman — could have been as little as 32.8 meters away from where the image was captured, and that the photographer “could have been in the position to have taken the shot.”

Seems like a lot of weasel wording… purported, suggested, could have… A lot of the case revolves around indications that Nghe used the brand of camera, Pentax, which they say took the shot. Ut primarily used higher dollar Leica and Nikons – but says he also used Pentaxes and there are photos on file in which he did use a Pentax.

Earlier this month, the AP published a 96-page report on the matter. The investigation — which was based on eyewitness interviews, examination of cameras, a 3D model of the scene and surviving photo negatives — found “no definitive evidence” to justify changing the attribution. While the agency acknowledged that the passage of time and absence of key evidence made it “impossible to fully prove” whether Ut took the photo, crediting Nghe would “require several leaps of faith.”

World Press Photo also noted the possibility that another person altogether — Vietnamese military photographer Huynh Cong Phuc, who sometimes sold images to news agencies — took the photo. The AP’s investigation noted that he, like Ut and Nghe, “could have been in the position to have taken the shot.”

I am certainly no expert on cameras of ANY sort – give me the world’s best camera and view, and I will produce a snapshot.  But I think the most important fact about the photographer is this:

“When I took the photo of her, I saw that her body was burned so badly, and I wanted to help her right away. I put all my camera gear down on the highway and put water on her body.”

Ut said he put the injured children in his van and drove them for 30 minutes to a nearby hospital.  CNN

50 years later, photographer and subject:

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Slow Joe

Wait. The napalm was dropped by the South Vietnamese? WTF? But America gets blamed for everything.

SFC D

We gave them the aircraft and napalm, trained their pilots. Hence, America’s fault.

Hack Stone

Neil Young blamed Richard Nixon for the Kent State University shooting, even though it was the Ohio National Guard sent in by the Governor of Ohio. Richard Nixon also dispatched John Kerry to Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968, four weeks prior to his inauguration.

Anonymous

Hey, at Kent State, it was our fault for putting ROTC there for the hippies to burn down– even 20 years later getting called a “baby killer” for that and ‘Nam still.
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5JC

No photographer nowadays would try to help. They would try to interview the subject about how bad being on fire hurts and switch to a live stream.

Jay

“Thats all we got for today: make sure to like and subscribe!”

Old tanker

More like, what are your feelings about being bombed and burned? Why? Because feelings are just about all “journalists” today ask about. Screw facts.

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jeff LPH 3 63-66

WOW, I remember the pic was on the front page of the NY Daily News paper before the paper turned into a 100% rag.

KoB

Neither Matthew Brady or Alexander Gardner were available for comment. (IYKYK)

Slow Joe

Oh come on KoB!
Don’t make me google that shit.

KoB

*snickers* Good training for you, Sergeant! One learns/retains more by researching/reading for themselves v teaching by rote. ‘sides that…it gave you a legit reason to cuss! 😀 In your Google Fooing did you notice where another assistant, to both men, Timothy O’Sullivan did a some arranging and re-arranging of bodies on the battlefields, sometimes using the same body for different pics, or adding pieces and parts for a more dramatic pic? Folks stealing/taking credit for other folk’s work has been around since ancient times, including stolen valor. “Cain didn’t kill Abel, I, Lain, did. My records were lost in the Flood!” “I marched with Alexander against the Persians!” “I was the sole survivor @ Thermopylae!” “I guided Hannibal thru the Alps!” and so on…

Slow Joe

Why did Edwina Booth Grossman, John Wilkes Booth’s niece, add her husband’s name, Grossman, as a second last name, instead of adopting his last name and becoming Edwina Grossman?
I thought that the tradition at the time (1870s, post Civil War) was to adopt the husband’s last name and give up the maiden’s name.

Last edited 20 days ago by Slow Joe
Skivvy Stacker

She was as crazy as John and thought she was living in the 21st Century?
Just a theory.

Last edited 20 days ago by Skivvy Stacker
KoB

It was very common for women to use their Maiden Name as a Middle Name upon marriage back then…and still today in many Southern Families. Particularly if the female didn’t like her given middle name (or didn’t have one) or if her Maiden Name was a prominent one. Cut back on the use of “Nee…” in social pages. It was also common for the female to use her maiden name as a first name for a child. Both of my grandmothers used their maiden names as middle names, as did my Mama, sisters, and my first wife. It was only in more modern times that the whole hyphenated thing started (ala my FINAL ex wife)

Slow Joe

By the way, fascinating Civil War pictures by Matthew Brady and Alexander Gardner

KoB

You’re glad I made you look…ain’t cha! There’d be more pics out there from those fellows if many of their original plates hadn’t been lost/destroyed. I have several books full of their original pics, reprinted on acid free paper of course, one of which is a rare “Special Edition” that had been hand colored where the subjects still had the outfits or remembered the color that they were wearing. Lot to be said for having a “hard copy” of history. With everything being stored digitally now, when the grid goes down a lot of “recent” history will be lost forever.

tom reynolds

The government is counting on things being lost

Retired Devildoc

This is the picture Facebook took down claiming it was kiddie porn, until their dumbasses got roasted for it…

Jimbojszz

I just went to a showing of these iconic photos taken during Vietnam. The area was roped off with fabric to hide the scenes from the public passing by. Always disturbing things to see at Art Centers. I remember the one of the ARVN guy shooting the prisoner in the head. Big story behind that photo too. Shock photos that just don’t go away. I think it was mainly used to stir up anti-Vietnam War Sentiment. I say piss on those fucking hippies. They took it out on the troops, fucking assholes.