Kevin Kyle; phony SEAL

| March 29, 2018

Our partners at Military Phonies share their work on this Kevin Kyle fellow who claims that he was a Navy SEAL. He made the claims in social media and in his wardrobe;

Yes, there is a tattoo;

However the US Navy doesn’t remember him going through any SEAL Training, and he got called out and admitted that he lied;

But, then he tubed his Facebook page instead of leaving his admission to lies for all to see.

The truth, according to the Navy, is that he completed twenty years of service, retiring as an Aviation Ordnanceman First Class in the pay grade of E-6;

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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Old Trooper

Sigh. This is getting boring. I’m just glad that there aren’t posers trying to move in on us Space Shuttle Door Gunners. We’re a small group, but highly motivated and protective of what we earned.

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Someone has to protect us from the return of Xenu

Jay

I for one welcome our new Xenu Overlord

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

…and we cant just rely on the totally sane SeaOrg people

I wonder if they have Airborne ‘troops’????
(which is limited to the highly dangerous ‘Couch Jump’)

jedipsycho (Certified Space Shuttle Door Gunner)

You said it.

Hey yeah, I’m of them guys, too. Wha’d you call it? Space shuttle shooter guys. Yeah, graduated in ’72. Check out my Myspace for documentation. . .

A Proud Infidel®™

You Space Shuttle Door Gunners wouldn’t have anything if we Apollo Door Gunners hadn’t paved the way for you, you’re welcome!!!

HMCS(FMF) ret

And us Gemini Door Gunners were there in the day…

jonp

I’m calling your ass out, Old Trooper. I was the Master Chief Laser Gunner, Senior Grade and Heavy Drop SALO and OALO (Space/Orbital Altitude Low Opening) Instructor at the Academy and you were never in my class.

Ex-PH2

I’m just glad I have my Space Shuttle Doorgunner certificate locked up in the family safe.

NHSparky

AO’s are often ridiculed for their (lack of) intellectual prowess.

Example of said lack above.

Maybe he went across the Coronado Bridge one weekend, had a beer at McP’s, and figured, “Close enough!”

Atkron

When i was Millington for A-School it seemed like my AMH schoolmates and I would invariably end up marching behind or near the AO’s on the way to the schoolhouses.

One of their cadences had the following in it, and it would make me laugh every time:

‘AO AO Boom Boom Boom’

Atkron

When I was on shore duty, a couple of us Airframers would sneak into the Ordnance Shop, and apply condiments or hand cleaner to their phone earpiece.

We’d run back to the Airframe shop and call the AO’s phone:

“HS-1 Ord…Motherfucker!”

AO’s are fun, dangerous…but fun. Everyone should have one.

AW1Ed

They are a riot to fly with, too. The image of my AO wearing only boots LPA and ballcap on his way to the flight station to complain about the heat is forever burned in my mind. Other tricks on those long all-night ASW flights was to read aloud on Conference 2 Penthouse letters to the editor, complete with sound effects.

NHSparky

Prussian Blue is a LOT more fun.

Ditto neolube. Did both on phones, reactor compartment scopes, etc.

Nothing like seeing your Div-O heading up to the Wardroom with racoon eyes. Even the Captain got a chuckle out of that.

Atkron

We had an LPO for the Trouble Shooters shop in the Line Division that was bucking for Chief HARD! Nice guy, but just couldn’t stop sucking up.

I watched one morning as the shooters lined his goggles with exhaust carbon from one of our birds. During the first go, it was like 0900 but had already crossed 80 degrees on the NAS Cecil Field Flightline.

He came over to my bird after start-up, and I saw ‘black tears’ flowing down his cheeks…it was sweat. I started smiling and laughing..he looked at me and grinned back.

After the birds taxied off, he did his usual, running into Maintenance Control to give an unneeded report on the launch. Most of us followed him into the hangar, and as soon as he lifted his goggles and walked in the door to Maintenance…all you could hear was laughter.

I think he left work center 320 soon thereafter.

Dinotanker

Sparky,

LOL!!! That is evil. 🙂 Wish I had thought of something like that…

NHSparky

Nah, evil is having water bottle fights on the way in off a long underway (Or Westpac) when one of the gents spiked his bottle with silver nitrate.

Recipient chuckles and then goes topside for line handling. Ex-PH2 can tell you all about how AgNO3 gets REAL dark when exposed to sunlight.

Hondo

Sure does. And if I recall correctly, it takes literally weeks for the stain to fade from your skin.

Ex-PH2

It’s just a shame the lab rats never told any of you dipsticks that you only needed a little sodium thiosulfate (hypo) to clear that up, isn’t it? 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

(Ex-PH2 is having a gigglenosrt).

Ex-PH2

Yeah, darkroom chemicals had their uses outside the red light door.

It was interesting to walk up to some poor soul rocking prints in the B&W darkroom and tell him the developer tray was on the right, and he was using the hypo tray, which meant his prints would take forever to come up.
I occasionally dipped some of the stop bath (acetic acid = vinegar) out of that tray and sprinkled it on lettuce, told a newbie it was just salad dressing.

Those were the days….

Mike Kozlowski

“…AOs are often ridiculed for their (lack of) intellectual prowess…”

Hey – I’m USAF Ammo, and I resemble the incineration behind that remark! And furthermore, umm…uh…what were we talking about again?

All kidding aside, even granted the SV you’ve got to admit this dude had some balls wearing that badge while on AD. Somebody needs to seriously look into this..

An Old Arty Sgt

Since he worn a trident on active duty, and I have no idea for how many years, did he gain anything from his lies? Was he promoted because of it? NCIS should check him out since he did retired as an E-6. Just sayin…

AW1Ed

Saw the flight gear and Aircrew wings, and my hackles rose. Love my Ordie brothers, and the one’s I know would give Mr. Kyle a very short and one-sided vivid learning experience. Welcome to your Google fame, Kevin Kyle, the interwebs are forever.

Atkron

What I don’t understand is how nobody in any of his commands ever looked at his Service Records during eval time.

Petty Officer Kyle wears a Trident, yet I don’t see anything in his record to back it up; maybe I should investigate…said no one, ever.

Hack Stone

Everyone in the military has the highest levels integrity and would never lie, cheat or steal; that is why the brigs are always empty.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

WTF is wrong with these peeps. He did his time, so why BS about something that he was not. Looks like a slow week for the Seals.

Daisy Cutter

In a strange way, it is a reflection on the popularity of the US Navy SEALs that they seem to have more POSers per capita than any other service unit – Delta, Marine Recon/Sniper, Ranger, SF, etc.

Martinjmpr

That’s because the Navy has a propaganda arm that “rivals that of Josef Stalin” (in the immortal words of President Harry Truman.)

Ever wonder why there are so many movies about Navy SEALs and Marines, so many TV Shows about the Navy (JAG, NCIS, etc?) It’s because the Navy puts public relations front-and-center.

There’s a reason there’s no TV show called “Army CID” or “Air Force OSI.” It’s because the Army and USAF will only lend assistance to Hollywood if the film or TV show in question portrays them in a strict, by-the-book manner.

OTOH, the Navy’s attitude is that as long as the production doesn’t outright slander the service, they’ll provide lots of valuable technical assistance, equipment, etc.

It’s funny to think about but if you were an alien and your only view of the US military came from what was on television or movies, you would think that the Navy was by far the biggest service and that the Army and Air Force barely existed.

So, the prevalence of SEAL and Marine posers is no accident, it’s a reflection of our media culture.

NHSparky

And even then, completely bullshit shows like The Last Ship, Supercarrier, and that steaming pile of celluloid known as Last Resort will still get support for a while.

martinjmpr

Yes, the Navy seems to have adopted the Hollywood belief that “there’s no such thing as bad publicity.”

Also I should have probably mentioned that there is an exception to every rule and I should have noted that there has, recently, been a TV show about the Army. “The Unit” ran for a few seasons in the early 2000’s and was about a Delta-force type of special operations unit.

It was as terrible as any of the Navy shows that are on now, so in a way I guess I’m glad that the Army doesn’t play the same PR game that the Navy does since it avoids most of the eye-rolling, face-palming silliness you typically get from Hollywood.

Ex-PH2

Ha! SGT Bilko wasn’t silly?

I beg to differ!!

Hondo

Two words: McHale’s Navy. (smile)

Atkron

That wasn’t a sitcom…that was a training.

Ex-PH2

I thought ‘Hennessy’ was the training film. What did I miss?

Daisy Cutter

Not to rub salt in a wound, but there is another area where the Navy leads.

Broadway shows.

Do you ever see doughboys, flyboys or Marines skipping around in tights, white gloves and twirling rifles? No, it is always the Navy. I rest my case. 😉

Martinjmpr

Not to mention the fact that the Village People never wrote a song about the Army, Air Force or Marines. 😉

Sgt Fon

well with the lifting of Don’t ask, don’t tell i would not be surprised to see the other services starting up a show or two of their own…

A Proud Infidel®™

Like I once heard someone say about Subs, 150 Sailors go down and 75 Couples come up!

IDC SARC

Never underestimate the tactical value of a well executed sashay, vine, triple step, step-ball-change or bathroom step in combat.

🙂 Exit stage right——> end scene

Mustang Major

I agree on the USMC/USN self promo ability. When I attended Infantry Officer Advanced Cource at Ft. Benning, the USMC instructors stressed the importance of always having a camera on you.

AW1Ed

Ahhh, cute, ya’ll are just jealous.
*grin*

Ex-PH2

I love you, no shit, sailor, buy me Honda!!!

Atkron

How about a Yugo?

Ex-PH2

No, Yugo. I stay.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Wow… KEVIN KYLE was really ballsy. He was rocking the lie while he was still on active duty (look at the pic of him and his shadowbox and the other one getting a certificate).

20+ years of LYING about your service, KEVIN KYLE? What else have you lied to your family and friends about, KEVIN KYLE?

I’ve known three guys that earned their tridents through the hard work and dedication they put in to be Navy SEALS – one gave his life. KEVIN KYLE is no where near the man that those three men are. KEVIN KYLE isn’t worthy of licking the sweat off their balls.

COCKSUCKER

26Limabeans

Last name Kyle. Isn’t there an assbag with first name Kyle? Why yes there is!

KYLE BARWAN!!!!!

Hack Stone

Sounds like a new category for Wheel Of Fortune, Before And After Posers.

K_vin Kyl_ B__rw_n

I’d like to solve the puzzle, Pat. Kevin Kyle Barwan!!!

JP76er

It’s assholes like this that really piss me off. I’m a civilian, only visited an air base with a rock band back in the day. I have the utmost respect for the men and women who serve, because of scum like this I cast a side eye when I come across someone who is in civilian clothes but has some military identifiers on it. It makes me feel terrible because who the hell am I? These guys just suck.

Graybeard

I am beginning to look with favor on dinging all these phony Navy SEALs with a “displays lack of imagination” factor.

Kevin Kyle the dunderkopf AO-never-a-SEAL, displays an exceptional level of stupid.

Sparks

In one photo he is wearing red stripes and a crow, in others gold stripes and a crow. What is the difference? Army guy wants to know please.

Daisy Cutter

Gold is so many years without NJP. In general, a cleaner record.

Claw

Sparks, I think that at the 12 year mark of time in service (somebody correct me if I’m wrong) red turns to gold, but if later you screw up and get NJP action they revert back to red.

But the first clue that Kyle’s shit was hinky to the Goat Locker should have been that he’s wearing both a Combat Action Ribbon and the ribbon for the Kuwait Liberation Medal UPSIDE DOWN in his ribbon rack.

AW1Ed

Correct- 12 consecutive years of undetected crime gets one the gold stripes.

Martinjmpr

Sparks, I think that at the 12 year mark of time in service (somebody correct me if I’m wrong) red turns to gold, but if later you screw up and get NJP action they revert back to red.

So how would that be annotated on a DD-214 or in the records? Is there something in the records that establishes that the sailor is entitled to wear gold stripes vs. red? Are there such things as “gold stripe orders?”

And if said gold stripes are subsequently revoked, is there another set of orders for that?

Martinjmpr

Here’s why I ask: Let’s say that numbnuts here earned his gold stripes through 12 years of good conduct.

Then around year 14 he steps on his dick and gets NJPd. Gold stripes revoked.

But if he PCS’s to a new duty station, what’s to keep him from just whipping the gold stripes back out?

Is anyone really going to look over his service record and say “hey, there’s an Article 15 (I think “captain’s mast” in the Navy) on here, he shouldn’t be wearing gold stripes?”

I mean, it’s apparent that needle-dick here was rocking a Budweiser badge on active duty – you’d think that would draw some serious scrutiny from his Chain of Command. If they didn’t catch that he was not entitled to a SEAL badge, then they wouldn’t neccessarily catch on to whether he was authorized gold or red stripes, right?

NHSparky

NJP is still in your service record.

Martinjmpr

OK, so next question: If a sailor has stayed in his 12 years and earned his/her gold stripes, then loses them, is there a way he/she ever gets them back?

Would that require another 12 years of unblemished service?

Also is there a minimum rank that qualifies for gold stripes? I’m just thinking, if a sailor is in a rating where it’s tough to get promoted, conceivably that sailor could still be an E-5 (PO2) at 12 years. But I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gold PO2 rank insignia, the lowest gold insignia I’ve ever seen is PO1 (E-6.)

Final question (sorry but I find this fascinating): When was this practice adopted? Post WWII? Or does it go back earlier than that?

Atkron

I personally knew three PO2’s that wore gold.

They were great Sailors, but scored crappy on the written tests. All three were hoping to get ‘Capped’ to PO1.

A Navy sea duty command can promote 1 sailor to the next pay grade based on merit….I just cannot remember if this is per year, or per promotion cycle.

As for your other questions:

Yes, I think they would have to serve another 12 years straight to get the gold back…not likely in most cases.

I have no idea when it started.

Martinjmpr

Right after posting the above I went to Wikipedia and they have a chart that shows gold PO3 and PO2 chevrons.

I don’t know if the Navy has the same “up or out” policies that the Army does but if they do I imagine it would be tough for an E-4 to have 12 years of service without NJP of some kind.

So my guess is that while a gold PO3 rank exists in theory, it’s got to be darn-near non-existant in the real world.

Claw

Did some Google-Fu research. (Even though I was Army, not Navy)

Near as I can tell (although not explicitly cited/spelled out) the “red to gold” service stripes most probably came into effect with the creation of Gold Rating Badges in May 1942.

YMMV as to actuality.

lmn0351

did your 20….kevin kyle YOU SUCK

11B-Mailclerk

I would have expected that a Trident on an Aviation Ordinanceman would be more than just a bit unusual.

No one asked about it? No one said “waitaminute…. really?”

Atkron

I believe back then AO was a source rating for SEAL.

Only personnel from certain ratings could go SEAL, before they created the SO Rating.

BM, HT, ABH, RM, HM come to mind.

Mr Sharkman and IDC SARC could probably list more.

OldManchu

Good grief. And the way you berated your civilian friends on social media makes you SUCK even if you hadn’t lied about your service.

Someone get that man away from the kids.

Berliner

In order to cover that SEAL tattoo I think a large “Hello Kitty” image is appropriate. He could have the bow obliterating the SEAL emblem.

Ret_25X

wow….

the best part is that he rocked the lie while on AD and it did not help him make Chief….

What a maroon

Daisy Cutter

When you take the written test isn’t there a box that you check if you are a SEAL?

It would be interesting to dig the old tests up and see if he checked the box. If it never helped him it could be a moot point.

Atkron

Now that I think of it there was a box to check if you were EOD/SEAL

AW1Ed

It cut SPECOPS guys some slack on rating exams, as they were no longer working in that source rating, and it was really unfair to expect them to be able to compete with folks who lived it every day. All better now that the Navy made the Special Warfare Operations (SO) rating.

Jay

Wait a minute….MY last name is KYLE, famed Navy SEAL Sniper (Chris) last name is Kyle. THIS IS BRILLIANT! NO ONE WILL EVER LOOK TWICE!

How bad do you have to suck to rock a Trident, make everyone think you are a SEAL, and STILL retire as an E6? Inquiring minds want to know.

Mick

This steaming hot mess is one of the best ones yet.

The sheer scope and duration of this assclown’s bullshit is epic.

Roh-Dog

Way to throw away a good TOD, assface.
A suggestion to all you stolen valor turds, be your own damn hero.
Worst case scenario, you can pretend to be yourself.
FFS.

A Proud Infidel®™

I now ass-u-me that a ball cap with a billboard-sized “Budweiser” on it is required apparel for all USN SEAL posers these days, do-rag, Biker Vest, motorcycle and dog are optional.

AW1Ed

SV tats are still “in” apparently.

Combat Historian

This individual needs to be recalled to active duty for the purpose of UCMJ action, since he was wearing and claiming the false badges and awards while on active duty. Obviously the Navy ain’t gonna do it, but they should, if nothing else as a warning to all active duty personnel about the seriousness of this violation…

Skippy

👍👍 ☝️☝️☝️

Russ

As an AO who somehow miracled his way through NACCS and onto a P-3 crew, what was his duty aboard? Stuffing sonobuoys down their tubes?

AW1Ed

General aircrew duties, among many other things- weapons loads in the bomb bay and wing stations. Lots of nasty things one could hang off the wings or in the ‘bay of the P-3.

And I can neither confirm nor deny a “special” weapon capability.

Hondo

A couple of interesting things I noted in reading his DD214s:

(1) 1st DD214: Date entered AD this period, 8 Feb 1977; date of separation, 7 Feb 1980; net active duty time, 2 yrs 11 mo 11 days. However, his record of assignments shows no AWOL/UA time. Though 19 days of excess leave could explain that, I have to wonder if perhaps he did a short stint in a local US (or foreign) jail during that tour?
(2) Last DD214: 20+ years AD, but only 4 total GCMs. Even under the old rules for Navy of 4 years per GCM (ended in 1996, I think), he should have had 5 if he had a clean record.

Methinks there might be a reason this guy never made CPO. And I think that might be due to some kind of derogatory info in his records.

NHSparky

Terminal leave would not have affected his EAOS.

I took 50+ days terminal leave, but my EAOS and time on AD were based on when my contract was up, not when I signed out on terminal leave.

Hondo

Different animals altogether, NHSparky.

Terminal leave is ordinary leave taken at the end of one’s active duty obligation. It allows the person taking same to continue to draw BAQ and separate rations while on leave if entitled to them before beginning same. It also allows a paid “break” for job hunting, partying, visiting friends and relatives, etc . . . before starting work as a civilian.

Excess leave is leave over and above the amount that the individual will accrue prior to separation. As I recall, it CAN be authorized in extenuating circumstances – e.g., serious family emergency or the like; however, it’s strongly discouraged. Also if I recall correctly any such excess leave is in a “no pay” status and thus does not count as credit for active duty service.

Excess leave is pretty uncommon; I only recall ever personally seeing one such request, and it was denied. As I recall, it most often comes up when a member needs more leave due to a family emergency than he/she is due to accrue prior to separation, or is discharged early while still “in the hole” with respect to leave.

Skippy

Holy Crap was he pulling this crap while on active duty???
If so someone needs to recall dumb ass back for some UCMJ
With boot to his ass

NHSparky

Sure looks like it.

MrBill

Unfortunately it’s too late to recall him to active duty and prosecute. The statute of limitations for most UCMJ offenses (including this one) is five years, and he’s been retired for over twenty. Too bad he didn’t get nailed while still on active duty. He was so brazen about it – I’m amazed that he got away with it.

Claw

Aaw, C’Mon. There’s got to be a way to recall him./smile

I know. He can be recalled to sign off on a new corrected copy DD214 since the word “Expeditionary” is misspelled for the AFEM that is listed in the awards section of the current DD214.

While he’s there waiting in the admin office to sign it, nail his ass to the wall.

2/17 Air Cav

I always regard these types as the worst, simply b/c they know what it takes to be what they never were and know the sacrifices made by those they never were. They know, yet they don’t have any reservation about taking what they did not earn. So, in conclusion, fuque him and all those former AD and retirees like him.

HMC Ret

How does a Sailor PCS and not have his record reviewed by his LPO, CPO or Command Master Chief? Did he just show up to work some day with new finery and no one questioned a Trident? Every time I PCS I had a sit down with someone senior to myself, usually the Command Master Chief. Seems to me the absence of supporting documentation for a Trident would have raised some questions that could/should have led to Captain’s Mast. There is more here than I understnd. In any event, what he did is particularly disgraceful since he did his 20 and decided to pull this stunt?
Something else. If he’s a SEAL, how is it he wasn’t assigned to a SEAL Team? Did he rotate from duty station to duty station without an occasional assignment to a SEAL Team? I assume his assignments were made by BUPERS (?), who would have known he was not a SEAL, regardless of what was in his locally held record and on his chest.

Beats me.

Hondo

His apparent career pattern might explain that, HMC Ret.

Looking closely at his record of assignments, his entire career was spent in the USNR – though at least the first tour (USS Kitty Hawk) and possibly the second tour (VF-302) may have included some time at sea with the “Regular” Navy.

However, starting in 1987 all of his assignments appear to have been to USNR NARCENs or non-active units except for temporary training assignments (likely schools). My guess is that he was assigned to (or reenlisted for) a full-time slot in the USNR’s TAR (Training and Administration of the Reserve) program.

If so, that could explain why no one ever reviewed his records closely. Many RC units have only a small number of AD personnel, and reviewing the records of incoming personnel closely might have been one of those things that “slipped through the cracks” due to lack of time during drills/ATs.

If he started making his false claims in conjunction with transfer to a NARCEN, he just might have been able to skate.

Mick

Hondo:

I’m betting that he was a TAR when he was at VF-302. VF-302 was a USNR squadron assigned to Reserve Carrier Air Wing 30 (CVWR-30) at NAS Miramar, CA.

http://navalaviationnews.navylive.dodlive.mil/2016/10/17/u-s-naval-air-force-reserve-a-century-of-service/

As you described above, that may help explain how he managed to get away with these poser shenanigans for as long as he did.

Hondo

Could well be. I did some checking and found that VF-302 was a USNR squadron, but they were based on an active installation (Miramar); I thus wasn’t sure if he’d served as a TAR there. The later assignments all appeared to be NARCEN or other USNR/RC-specific assignments consistent with his being in the TAR program, so I thought those were safer bets to be TAR assignments. But as you noted, it’s entirely possible that he was TAR from late 1980 on.

HMC Ret

OK, Hondo, I have a better understanding of how it might have taken place. I gotta say, though, this might be the ballsiest MoFo I’ve seen on this site. He must have lived in constant fear or contact with a real deal SEAL. Thanks again …

AW1Ed

VP-91, his last duty station, was a left coast reserve P-3 squadron.

Ex-PH2

The obvious question that no one has yeet asked is this: if he was a SEAL as he claimed while on active duty, why wasn’t he assigned to a team?
Each team has platoons. They all have member rosters.
You should all know that instinctively, and yet, here he is, floating around like some freewheeling carnival show, and no one including people on active duty with him asked “What’s your team assignment?”

Seriously, I’m waiting for Senior Chief and Master Chief both to chime in on this bozo.

I, too, would like to know how he pulled off this schtick for such a long time.

Atkron

That’s why I initially asked the question with regards to Evals and his Service Record.

But, I think he ‘explained’ it as having gotten out due to his wife; and then going back in as a TAR.

But, that doesn’t explain why nobody in that TAR Command ever question the Trident when going through his records.

Division Officer
Division Chief
LPO
Personnelman

Any one of which could have called bullshit, and never did.

Hondo

True, Atkron – any of those folks could have called BS. If they’d (1) noticed, (2) had their internal BS detector go “bing”, and (3) had the time to dig into the matter. But very likely, (3) was the no-go. From what I’ve seen, in a RC unit from any service there are relatively few personnel who serve full-time. (This 1988 Army War College study indicates that in the late 1970s an “adequate” level of full-time staffing for USAR/ARNG elements was 4-6 personnel per company-sized element, with an additional 6-9 full time personnel at Battalion HQ. Presumably the Navy TAR program staffs USNR units at a similar level.) That means in a squadron/battalion sized RC element, there won’t be many full-timers at all – between 30 and 40 folks. Can’t speak for the Navy – but in a USAR or ARNG unit, the positions you note above would all very likely be part-timers (the unit’s personnel NCO might be full-time, but the personnel-related full-time billet also might simply be an admin clerk slot). Ditto most other key leadership positions. You might also have one or two mil techs (civilians who as part of the terms of their employment must also be a member of the RC and assigned to the unit) at HQ, plus a some other full-time personnel – and those others will likely have a “maintain unit equipment” mission that keeps them pretty busy. That’s about it. The rest – including most key leaders – would be traditional reservists, or “part-timers”. Lets just say that between planning drills and AT, answering the phones, doing the reports, logistical functions, maintenance on unit equipment and facilities, processing other paperwork, and the other 100s of admin tasks necessary to keep the unit off higher HQ’s “sh!t list” . . . conducting in-depth reviews of incoming personnel’s official records probably isn’t going to be on the top of the “to do” list for any of a RC unit’s “full timers”. And when the other unit key personnel arrive for drills, AT, or unscheduled special work and/or “volunteer” their time, it probably won’t… Read more »

Ex-PH2

It just seems to me that anyone he worked for or with, anyone who had even a slim sense of ‘something’s not right’ could have picked up the phone, called the school at San Diego and asked if this smirking bubbbleblower had ever even attended BUD/S, just to settle it.

HMC Ret

PH: I beat you to the ‘why no team assignment’ by a few hours. I still don’t get it, though … he HAD to have at some time had contact with a real deal SEAL or someone in the know who would question his Trident. From the pics, it would appear he wore the Trident for perhaps several years w/o being outed. One ballsy MoFo. This gets curiousier and curiousier. I say we give him a complete pass provided he explains how he pulled it off.

Ex-PH2

There’s that, and his ribbon rack seems to change with the way the wind blows.

This is all very curious, meaning something simply does not add up. Shouldn’t his Aircrew pin go above his ribbon rack? It’s that kind of thing?

Sandman

According to the counter, this is post 100, that said, apparently his family is loosing their minds over this exposure. Of course the threats have started.

LAU-10

Threats?

Sandman

The normal,,we will sue you over slander,,blah,,blah,blah

SARC88 HMCS(DV/FPJ/FMF) USN Ret.

AO1 Kevin Kyle, you say you “have apologized to the SEAL community…yada yada”. But what about all your shipmates, guys who looked up to you for that bogus shit on your uniform. What about the Commanding Officers, JO’s and your Chief’s Mess that you LIED to for 20 years? What about your shipmates who were so proud to make you that fake shadow box? Do ALL YOUR SHIPMATES get a reach around after you fucked them, too?!?!

This whole thing is amazing. I can only imagine that you fudged your TAR transition and somehow ended running your own record for awhile. Where’s the fake one? If you’re really sorry, post that fake record you used to fool your Commands.

The very worst thing is that you traded in a hard-won set of flight wings for a fucking lie. What else was a lie? I truly hope your family puts away your pictures, and whispers “we don’t talk about him anymore” at reunions.

AO1 Kevin Kyle, you are now up there with Phony SEALS HMCM Grey Rather and CDR Larry Jacobs.