Common Leftist Economic Claims, Part I: Exposing the Ignorance. Or Maybe the Dishonesty.
In a comment to a previous article here at TAH, one of our regular commenters made the following statement.
Here is a purchasing power chart showing Reagan’s tax cuts did not flow down in actual purchasing power.
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/images/content_image/data/f1/f1bddfd60a7085c654daea1353d98626.gif
I’ve pointed out much what follows to the individual via a reply in those same comments. Since there was no response or acknowledgement, my working assumption is that he actually believes what he said above.
I bring this up here because it’s indicative of a common behavior of those on the political Left. Often, they don’t know a damn thing about the subject about which they’re pontificating. They merely parrot whatever blatant bullsh!t or “buzzword du jour” their superiors in the Politboro Progressive hierarchy give them.
And while doing so, some of them act like arrogant, insufferable, “superior” a-holes, looking down their noses at everyone else. In reality, virtually all of them they have little if any reason to think they’re superior, and no justification whatsoever for acting arrogant.
So I’ll use this case as an example – and I’ll explain how the chart above is being misused to support a specious claim, either out of ignorance or by design. I’ll let you decide which it was.
Here’s the figure in question. Remember, it was supposed to prove the Reagan-era tax cuts “didn’t work”.
The claim is that the above chart is a “purchasing power chart showing Reagan’s tax cuts did not flow down in actual purchasing power.” That claim about the Reagan era tax cuts – like many made by those on the Left – is specious, but that’s not the issue here. The issue is that the chart doesn’t support the claim whatsoever.
There are multiple problems with trying to use the chart above for that purpose. In fact, it fails to do so so badly that one wonders if the person making the claim was joking, was ignorant, or was trying to “pull a fast one”.
First: the chart above doesn’t address the Reagan era tax cuts. They’re not depicted on the chart in any way – so the chart is silent about them. It neither supports nor undercuts any claims about the Reagan era tax cuts.
Therefore, claiming that the chart above “shows the Reagan tax cuts didn’t work” (or words to that effect) is, to be charitable, simply not accurate. To be less kind: it’s evidence of either a gross error, gross ignorance, or an attempt to deliberately mislead. Or maybe of an outright lie.
Second: to anyone who has even a smattering of knowledge about finances and inflation the actual purpose of the chart is quite evident – and that purpose is unrelated to the Reagan era tax cuts. Two terms on the chart make the chart’s purpose crystal clear: the terms “nominal” and “real”, used in the context of discussing money and time.
The upper line on the chart is “nominal US median household income”. In the context of money and time, the term “nominal” has only one reasonable meaning: “current year dollars”. That is, dollars that are NOT indexed for inflation.
However, anyone who’s not a bona fide idiot knows that inflation reduces the purchasing power of money over time; a dollar in 1980 is simply not worth the same as a dollar today (in terms of purchasing power, a dollar in 1980 was worth substantially more). Therefore, to compare incomes from different years a correction for inflation is required.
Other than the chart’s axes, the only other line on the chart is “real US median household income”. In the context of money and time, the term “real” means “indexed for inflation”; there isn’t any other reasonable interpretation. In fact, the chart even specifies what measure was used to adjust for inflation to obtain real dollars, albeit not the source: CPI-U-RS. That is the emerging preferred index for correcting for data, and is generally regarded as an improvement over CPI-U.
The purpose of the chart is thus clear to anyone who (a) understands even the basics of finance and inflation, (b) actually read it, and (c) isn’t wearing ideological blinders. It’s intended to show the effect of inflation on actual purchasing power. It’s not intended to show anything else.
In particular, the chart is not intended to say anything whatsoever about Reagan, taxes, or the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of Reagan-era tax cuts. Saying that it does is at best a truly foolish error, and at worst a deliberate falsehood.
The Left does things like that quite often – e.g., claims one thing, then uses invalid arguments, bad data, irrelevant examples, or outright lies to support their claims. They apparently do so hoping that no one will catch on and call them on it. Hell, I don’t think many of them even have the background (or smarts) to realize they’re doing so. They’re simply Polly Parrot, regurgitating the “party line” they’ve been fed. That may or may not be the case here; decide for yourself.
Third: the chart also illustrates a potential shortcoming in using data presented in graphical form. The chart above indeed compares different variables – but it does so using a scale that obscures relevant changes in one of the variables being plotted. For the intended purposes of the chart, that’s not a “biggie”; the scale used shows the discrepancy between nominal dollars and actual purchasing power, and the fact that the details present on the lower data plot aren’t apparent is irrelevant in that context. But the scale used indeed makes examining the data presented on the “real US median household income” line in detail impossible. There’s simply not enough definition on the lower line to see what’s going on.
That lack of definition issue also makes it impossible to use the above chart together with other data to assess the effectiveness of the Reagan-era tax cuts. That’s true because there’s so little definition for the line depicting real income that inferring the actual data point values with anything approaching accuracy is impossible; the necessary detail simply can’t be seen in that chart. That’s a third reason why the chart can’t be used to say anything about the Reagan era tax cuts.
For comparison, here’s virtually the same data (it continues for an additional year or two), presented alone, from a known source (US Census Bureau). It shows the detail obscured by the scale used on the other graph:
Clearly, this second version does provide enough information to allow visual analysis. Those details cannot be seen on the original chart.
I could probably go on, but this is likely enough to prove my point. Very obviously, claiming that the first chart proves the Reagan era tax cuts were ineffective is simply . . . ridiculous. It’s either a gross error, or it’s a deliberate lie. Take your pick.
. . .
In the same comment that started this article, links were provided to charts prepared by that “fountain of economic insight and analysis” Mother Jones purporting to support other Leftist claims. Still other claims were made that are specious at best if not outright falsehoods. Those other charts and claims will be the subject of the next 2 articles in this series.
I can hardly wait until Red on the Head, Like the Dick on a Dog, poodle noodle, posts his next dissertation on Reaganomics! Go ahead dickhead, we are waiting??
Let me guess, Lars PoodleDick, the Bug Fucker.
DO NOT INVOKE THE POODLE’S NAME.
It’s like Betelgeuse. Say his name 3 times and he pops in and never shuts up.
You mean the Zika Poodle?
Make sure to show good form, Hondo. Remember to follow through with the pimp-hand when you lay the smackdown on Lefties.
Thanks for keeping up the fight.
MAKE DAT PIMP HAND STRONG!
My measure is simple; in 1967 people in my home community we pooped in outhouses and only used electricity in the winter, no one does that today down there. We are all better off today, not better people but better off.
I have no idea what any of this means. I get the brain pain whenever I see charts, stats, and too many numbers. Thank goodness TAH has people who not only understand these things but actually enjoy them. My approach to taxes is simple: less taxes means more money in my pocket and more money in my pocket means I spend more. And when I spend more, businesses can expand and hire folks and those folks spend, and so on. Right now, I am in a hunkered-down mode and have been for some time. I dream about avoiding taxes b/c I see tax money being handed out left and right to the undeserving and the ungrateful.
Ace regularly parodies this mindset when he puts up an “I love science sexually” post. The left loves to pretend that they are the “party of science”. But they are only interested in “science” insofar as they can use it to advance their agenda. Neil DeGrasse Tyson is actually one of the worst for this as he will tweet out some sort of scientific sounding nonsense that is easily either deconstructable or disprovable, but which sends the Twitter swarm into hyperdrive.. It manages to be both Lysenkoism and scientism all at once-no mean feat.
I read somewhere the other day about a distinction for leftists:
What they invoke is scientism, not science.
Things that look or sound like science and reason, but are not.
Much like the leftists engaging in rationalizations without being rational.
True. I’ve also observed that leftists tend to be “the ends justify the means” kind of people. In fact, I’ve actually heard some use that phrase on national media outlets.
While I would agree that the ends may justify the means in certain circumstances, it certainly has no place in our constitutional republic where, in my view, the means are themselves the ends.
Lars is the “Prof. Irwin Corey” of economics. Actually he is the Prof Corey of everything.
“… an attempt to deliberately mislead. Or maybe…an outright lie.” In most cases, deliberately mislead IS outright lying. If you look at the CPI index that shows actual inflationary rates since 1913, it is as plain as day that inflation has had a real impact on purchasing power. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/consumer-price-index-and-annual-percent-changes-from-1913-to-2008/ To put it in proper perspective, the US Mint used to issue coins called mille. A ‘mille’ was one-tenth of a cent. It was a unit of issue under the Coinage Act of 1792, and we still see references to it in commodities prices and gas prices at the pump. The Philadelphia Mint issued 5-mille coins. It is still used in tax rates. Gasoline prices in 1980 were still less than $1.000/gallon, and did not spike until OPEC forced the price of crude to an inflationary high of $141/barrel. That was not so very long ago. Thanks to US/Russian drilling in unlikely places for unlikely sources, the price of oil per barrel has dropped back to less than half of the high, and governments run by morons like Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela, which counted on that inflated high forever, have found their economies imploded into chaos. Which clearly shows not just a lack of understanding of economics and inflation by the morons on the left side of the political fence, but also complete incompetence in management of anything real. In the real world, the price of gas at the pump has dropped a lot this week, mostly because of the switch from the summer blend to the winter blend. The gas stations have to empty their tanks to make room for the changeover. This is something poorly understood by Leftards, who live on moonbeams and flying feathers. I don’t know if your lesson will sink in, Hondo, but when the price at the pump drops, it lets me buy more gas. I could use a little deflation right now. Stock the freezer and the pantry. There’s a big sale on stuff I use at my local Aldi, so I think I’ll take advantage of it and cart home a lot… Read more »
In the link I left, below your comment…here is something you’ll like and liberals will deny.
Fable 9: Workers Had to Work Harder for Smaller Paychecks in the 1980s
Caught between the lawmakers in Washington and the dealmakers on Wall Street have been millions of American workers forced to move from jobs that once paid $15 an hour into jobs that now pay $7. [44]
Barlett and Steele never back up such anecdotal claims with any facts. Here they are: the correct way to measure changes in worker pay from one period to the next is not by examining wages alone, but by tallying the total
compensation per hour–a measure that includes wages and benefits–paid to a worker. [45] Nonwage benefits have been an increasing share of total hourly worker compensation. In 1960, 9 percent of worker compensation was in the form of fringe benefits; in 1975, 16 percent of worker compensation was wage supplements; and by 1990, that
percentage had risen to 20 percent. [46]So although it is true that average real wages have been falling over the past 20 years, real compensation has been generally rising. The average real wage in 1990 dollars fell from about $11.00 an hour in 1980 to about $10.00 in 1988, a 9 percent decline. But real compensation per hour rose from $15.00 per hour in 1981 to $16.50 an hour in 1988.
I think you’re gonna love the 3rd article in the series. (smile)
Actually, Ex-PH2, while the mill was a defined US monetary unit (1/1000 dollar, or 1/10 cent), the US never produced mill (1/10 cent) coins. The smallest coin ever issued by the US mint was a half-cent; that was minted from the 1790s to the 1850s.
Several states/localities did issue mill tokens, particularly before and during the Great Depression. Many were wood or plastic, but some were metal. They were typically used in tax transactions, but some (or maybe most/all) merchants also accepted them in some areas.
Wikipedia has a good write-up on US coinage and the history thereof – brief, but a pretty decent overview. The second link below discusses mill tokens issued by the state of Missouri.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numismatic_history_of_the_United_States
http://munichburgmemories.blogspot.com/2012/03/missouri-sales-tax-tokens.html
You learn a few things when you’re a coin collector for several decades. (smile)
Lars “Zika-Commie” Taylor is not going to like this.
Great article Hondo, a lot of information. Thank you.
Hondo…I just schooled the shit out of a leftist who works at Harvard…snicker. But, here, I will leave a few juicy quotes about the Reagan era…
It is not true that the gains by the wealthiest Americans came at the expense of low-income Americans. From 1981 to 1989, ****every income quintile–from the richest to the poorest–gained income according to the Census Bureau
economic data.
The poorest 20 percent of Americans experienced a 6 percent gain in real income in the 1980s and have suffered a 3 percent loss in income in the 1990s. Figure 13, which compares the income trends for the poorest fifth of Americans over the past 20 years, shows that the poor did the best during the Reagan years. Black Americans saw their incomes grow at a slightly faster pace (11.0%) than whites (9.8%) in the Reagan years.
Contrary to popular rhetoric, the wealthiest Americans did not pay less taxes; rather, they paid more taxes after the income tax rate cuts in 1981. In constant dollars, the richest 10 percent of Americans paid $177 billion in federal income taxes in 1980 but paid $237 billion in 1988. The remaining 90 percent of households paid $5 billion less in
income taxes over this period. [52] They earned more and they paid more.
Don’t you just LOVE facts? 🙂
Read this CATO report…relevant to 1996.http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa261.pdf
Is that strictly income taxes?
I’m just asking because everyone pays the same tax rates on taxable sales items like food, fuel, utilities, etc., but are these ever included in tax revenue reviews?
A state sales tax on food is lower than the state sales tax on non-food items such as paper products and pet foods, for example. I know it varies from state to state, but it seems like common sense to include it.
Yes…just income taxes.
I wish the chart showed at what point death threats against Obama went up at a rate of 400%, and thus made us all racists. The incipient cause of the dramatic increase in death threats was probably the Reagan Era Tax cuts…but I am no grad student.
Don’t you know? Its because you disagree with him.
Disagreement makes you racist. Even if you’re black, mixed, etc. You are racist because you don’t agree with what he says.
At the risk of appearing supine, I have to agree with the triple digit ASVAB guy. Creating graphic analysis of data that is mutually exclusive is nothing more than an illusion.
As illustrated in the following graph, in the final analysis the longer you look into the graph…the less is actually means.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkeydxTjba1qa0uujo1_500.jpg
President Reagan took office when unemployment in some cities was north of 20%. Interest rates to buy a home were north of 15%. Inflation was north of 14%. Within two years his policies fixed every one of those issues.
Because to those policies we have no real understanding of what inflation is anymore.
Here, real data without any illusions:
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/
Draw your own picture.
My issue isn’t with the first chart, DH. It’s with what it’s being used to (purportedly) show.
The first chart very well shows the effect of inflation. Depending on which inflation index is used, a dollar in 1967 had the same purchasing power (e.g., bought the same amount of “stuff”) as somewhere between $6.30 and $7.00 today. However, household incomes have also gone up even more. The chart accurately shows that people are better off today – just not 700% better.
In real terms, US households have somewhere between 20% and 30% more income than they did in 1967. But because of inflation, household income in current-year dollars had to rise by between 6x and 7x to achieve that improvement. That’s what the chart shows – no more, and no less.
My issue is the fact that the first chart was used to claim something that the chart does not address whatsoever. At best, using that chart was a monumental error. At worst, using it was a deliberate attempt to deceive.
We have an Actuarial Accountant, but we keep her locked in her own room and restrict the rest of the staff from coming into contact with her. Its for their own safety.
Anyway, if I posted her with some other user name I would say something like “She gives good graphs”, but I would never say anything like that of course.
Whether by design or deceit, that graph has no actual value. I am in awe…once again.
Here’s a number I can sink my teeth into. 111 days before oBaMa moves to Georgetown.
Um, we’re military here, get it right dude.
110 days and a wake up!
Hondo – first class work AND very clear to all of the horde (except for the one Bezerkley edumicated, Marxist/Leninist that shall be unnamed).
As the Mrs will attest – I am not a money or numbers guy. But this even makes sense to me!
Hondo, ouch! I’m taking statistics right now in school so my brain already hurts, now it hurts more.
Its a good hurt, but owwww!
“MAKE THE BAD MAN STOP… MAKE THE BAD MAN STOP”
I remember saying the same MSG Eric when I when through some of the more “number intensive” course for my MBA
Right? “oh, here’s the equation for finding that. But, if you don’t know that equation, here’s this other equation to determine that equation. if you can’t figure that equation out, here’s this other equation to determine that equation.”
“Oh and here’s a base equation to show you why 1+1 does not always equal 2, because here’s what the equation actually is meant to determine in statistics and accounting.”
But then, after you get through doing all those equations, your professors say, “oh, just go to this website and it’ll do the equation for you automatically. Just put the specified numbers into the fields and it’ll do it all for you. Now you don’t have to do all that equating anymore!”
Bastards, creme-filled bastard-coated bastards.
Yeah, the math underlying statistics gets pretty hairy – and many of the calculations are both long and tedious as hell. But actually using statistics, once you understand what the statistics do – and do NOT – tell you isn’t that difficult, provided you understand probability (e.g., what “a 1 out of 4 chance” means) even a little.
Along with websites, a spreadsheet program will typically do the calculations yielding virtually all of the common statistics (and some of the uncommon ones) for you. Unfortunately, you have to know how to set it up, where to “plug in” the data – and what the results mean.
Sadly, most Americans are abysmally bad at math. That’s why so many people play the lottery religiously, thinking the longer they play the greater their chance becomes of winning the next drawing – because “it must be nearly my turn”.
Statistics? That’s a poor replacement for intuition and practical knowledge. In a risk pool of insureds, those who live in a tornado-prone area are statistically more likely to lose their houses/property to a twister, or suffer at least a partial loss, than those who do not live in a tornado-prone area.
That doesn’t take into account the fact that predicting tornadic activity in one area for one season only provides probabilities, not accuracy and does not take into account changes in long-term and short-term weather cycles. There may be years when tornadoes rip through the tornado-prone area and blow up every structure they come across, and then there may be decades with no activity at all.
Statistics fail to take into account the chaos factor, because it’s essentially unpredictable but does affect results. The best example is the current Atlantic hurricane/tropical storm season. The predictions are so far off this year, same as they were last year, that it almost makes you wonder how disappointed those prediction guys are.
I prefer chaos theory myself. But, its my advisors fault. He’s making me take statistics and accounting. The bastard.
Next I get to do microeconomics and macroeconomics. Because, I don’t have enough numbers in my life already.
You always have both coming from the left. The foot soldiers and a lot of their ‘elite’ really are that dumb. They don’t understand cause and effect or the real world. But they believe that they are BRILLIANT!!! So you get the best combination: Arrogant Stupid
Then there’s the leadership who DO understand. They don’t care and just flat out bald faced lie to obtain and maintain power. And they’re even more arrogant. They are the aristocracy. Why on earth should they give a shit if their policies hurt the peasants?
Nicki has a post about Communism and what it’s really like to live in that kind of environment. She should know. She and her parents came to the US on the collapse of the USSR. Her blog is The Liberty Zone.
But more important, Venezuela is not going to get any more loans from the Chinese government, period. In addition, watch the video attached to this CNN article. Maduro either has declared forced labor on farms or is about to do so. Shades of Pol Pot in Campuchea!
So much for the glories of Socialism, which is only thinly disguised Communism!
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/30/news/economy/china-venezuela-finance/
Socialism – When you do finally run out of other people’s money to steal, out comes the bayonet.
Speaking of numbers, I recall back in the 90s when the Bills went to the Super Bowl FOUR consecutive years, never winning even one championship. I also recall people telling me that they were ‘due’ b/c of some vague mathematical formula/probability/whatever. I’d tell them, no, it had nothing to do with their winning b/c of prior losses. Kinda like flipping ten tails or heads in a row. The next flip is independent of the previous ten flips. (There may be some theory that refutes the last statement, but you get the drift.)
Nope. If you’re using a fair coin, a coin flip is a pretty good example of a random event with two outcomes. Ditto rolling a die (absent a loaded die, palming, or some other form of cheating), except obviously that has six outcomes vice two.
Assuming a fair coin or die and no cheating, each flip or roll is completely independent of its predecessor – and thus, what’s happened in the past doesn’t affect the next flip or roll whatsoever. It’s amazing how many people don’t grasp that simple concept.
FWIW: the chances of flipping a coin and getting 10 heads in a row are about 1 in 1,000. The chances that the next (11th) flip will be heads are still 1 in 2 – or 50%.
and if you look at your chances of winning big in Vegas, well it is rather depressing.
Vegas has about a 3% payout rate. So, for every 100 bucks they get, they pay out 3. That’s why its such a huge gambling town, the house wins 97% of the time.
“I’m gonna take 1000 bucks there and with that much I’m sure I’ll win big!” “Yeah, no. You’re gonna go home after eating buffet 3 meals a day and have about 30 bucks left in your pocket dude.”
Though in all my limited gambling time over the years, I’m over 100 bucks ahead and I’m keeping it that way.