Germaine Clarno lets vets die because she doesn’t like Republicans

| March 10, 2016

According to the Daily Caller, Germaine Clarno, a federal employee union president, and, of course, a Democrat, in Illinois regrets that she didn’t go to Senator Mark Kirk with her concerns about how vets were being treated because she didn’t want to talk to any Republicans.

Clarno’s tale of haunting regret is at least the second case of people connected with VA unions admitting they did not speak up about life-and-death issues because the idea of talking to a Republican was too distasteful.

Clarno also admits that number of veterans had died waiting for treatment, while she tried to talk to Democrat politicians who didn’t seem interested. Including our old friend, Tammy Duckworth;

The two women then went to Rep. Tammy Duckworth, a disabled veteran Democrat who also represents the area and was an official at VA before being elected to Congress, but since was a new lawmaker without leadership roles on any committees, she did not help. Clarno and Nee said Duckworth wouldn’t even read a report about the situation at Hines.
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“It was really upsetting. This isn’t about, you know, whether you have a D or an R at the end of your name. This is about the VA, this is about protecting the men and women who fought for our country,” Clarno said.

I’m pretty sure that Ryan Zinke nor Duncan Hunter let their junior status impede their work for veterans and the active force, but then we’re talking about Duckworth, aren’t we? She got her’s, so the rest of you can wait. Duckworth was in the VA and didn’t do anything for veterans, so let’s send her to the Senate now. I’m constantly told that the treatment of veterans isn’t a Democrat or Republican issue, but, it looks like I’m not the only one who thinks it is, am I?

Thanks to Richard for the link.

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Old Trooper

“This isn’t about, you know, whether you have a D or an R at the end of your name. This is about the VA, this is about protecting the men and women who fought for our country,” Clarno said”

yet, you said this:

“Clarno’s tale of haunting regret is at least the second case of people connected with VA unions admitting they did not speak up about life-and-death issues because the idea of talking to a Republican was too distasteful”

Sounds pretty fucking conclusive to me; bitch. Of course, since you’re a democrat, it’s normal for you to be a hypocrite.

OldSoldier54

This appears to be their default setting.

68W58

Don’t expect her to recognize her own cognitive dissonance, she’s a “good person” (because her political opponents are “bad people”-Duh) so she doesn’t have to engage in any self-examination.

PigmyPuncher

Please let the families of those who suffered, find not just her confession – but a attorney looking to make a name for themselves who will will take their cases and financially ruin this woman so that she can sever as an example for all to see…

Then go after the rest of them!

James Haltom

During my last five years on active duty I worked mostly with DOD civilians. They reminded at least once a week that “job security is job one.” It was punch the clock and that was all. I will say not everyone was exactly like that but when you’re wanting to complete a project and you were pushed for time and material, just pray it the “bell” didn’t ring.

Combat Historian

Fuck off, Bitch, and take your demonrat pals with you…

Dapandico

She would prefer for the Republicans to take the blame. Duckworth spent most of her time at the VA furthering her education.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Duckworth has has played the vet card and rode bodaprez’ nutsack to where she is in politics. I hope the people in IL wake up and see what she really is before it’s too late.

I’m not counting on it…

Atkron

Another shining example of what is wrong with the VA.

Just imagine how bad it was prior to the War On Terror. I mean, if we didn’t have all these newly busted up Vets this shit would have stayed in the shadows.

It’s fucking sad…we gave up our youth, some of our Rights, and in many cases parts of our bodies and minds because our Country put us In Harm’s Way.

Yet here we have a bureaucrat laden agency rife with corruption and what seems to be apathy toward the treatment and care of those they are charged with caring for.

The VA needs a do-over….

3E9

Man, fuck her, FUCK her. What a festering boil on the ass of humanity. And Duckworth can go to hell as well.

Arby

Funny how on her facebook page there is no indication that she thinks she did wrong… https://www.facebook.com/germaine.clarno

Silentium Est Aureum

Think this won’t become an issue if the government takes overy all healthcare?

Come on over here, I’ve got this lovely bridge to sell you.

Hondo

Apparently Clarno found watching people die needlessly less objectionable than talking to a political opponent.

Takes all kinds, I guess.

SFC D

Borderline negligent homicide.

A Proud Infidel®™

Fucking candyassed shit-for-brains snot-headed thumbsucking booger-eating bedwetting liberals! Nothing’s ever their fault, it’s all about them feeling good and un-offended and whatever goes wrong is ALL the Republicans’ fault. A special place in hell awaits their arrival.

charles w

They can’t get there fast enough for me.

OC

The blood of those dead veterans is on her phuqing hands.

FOADB

Ex-PH2

‘Haunting regret’??? What a load of crap.

I do hope that some day all of these political animals find themselves holding the shit end of the stick, just like they do to vets. But that’s just me.

OC

I’m pretty IDC Sarc wouldn’t even do this sorry bitch – just out of moral clarity.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

I wouldn’t…

nousdefions

Her favorite singers are Annie Lennox and Melissa Ethridge. I bet she wears comfy shoes and drives a Subaru as well.

Semper Idem

I’ll admit that Etheridge can play the guitar pretty damn well…and I agree with her that gays and lesbians should be granted full equality all across the board.

That said…she’s still a moonbat.

IDC SARC

I’d just do it for quim…not the beeyotch attached to it.

Silentium Est Aureum

Make sure you turn the condom inside out.

Ribbed for your pleasure.

2/17 Air Cav

I read the article and what I see is, in a sense, old news. What I mean by that is that countless VA employees knew that the bullshit delays were in testing were costing the lives of Veterans. And who did what? Nobody did virtually anything from within the VA other than to cover their own asses and ask for more funding to address backlogs. Records were made to disappear, remember, and Shitski assured the country that corrective action was taken. Of course lives were lost but I can’t lay those losses at the feet of this Clarno gal alone. Indifference and apathy is institutionalized at the VA. Until jobs are lost, people are suspended w/o pay, and managers are demoted, this will continue. It is sick. It is infuriating. It’s the oBaMa VA.

Grandson of TheGrumpus

My wife, a ret.col. USAF-RN, was boarded after her last deployment.

Our children, grown & gone, she decided she needed to work.

She could have gotten work anywhere, but instead went to a small VA Clinic, after hearing about the problems.

She soon found that (for the most part) the administrators are deaf to anything that isn’t faddish management theory or doesn’t enhance their own climb up the ladder.

She found that w/a a lot of extra work she (…and her doctor who is from an Iron Curtain country…) could help a few of the worse-off.

So she leaves for work, Monday through Friday at 0600 and usually is home by 2100 or so.

She’s been on this treadmill for almost eight years, and it’s wearing. She’s praying that things will change after BO, but doesn’t think it will.

We pray for the Vets, and I thank all of them for their patriotism and service to keep us safe!

– Gordon

Green Thumb

No surprise here.

Mark Lauer

I have gotten this feeling throughout the entire Veteran’s healthcare system; at both the federal and state levels.
People in both seem to get their backs up against a wall when they find out a VETERAN holds conservative values.
When I come to think of it, most of the problems I’ve had with my care givers has come about after they learned I had a Minnesota Pistol Carry Permit. You’d be amazed at some of the “health” questions I started getting when that came to light.

Old Trooper

I never answered that question at the Mpls VA. It’s none of their business and if they ask me again, I will tell them that to their face.

While I like my doctor over there, I know a couple of people on staff that say it’s CYA at all times with admin and who can get more “atta boys” than the other.

Candle

Slightly OT:
A relative of mine served for two years in the WACS. She now qualifies for Medicare, however the VA has recently replaced her knees and is going to do carpal tunnel repair. NONE of this is from her honorable service 45 years ago.
Please note that I am not saying that this situation with VA care is not abysmal,however I would like to know if the VA actually extends care way above and beyond any service related issues.
Thanks and please I mean no offense.

OWB

Yes, they do. They go out looking for people with non-service related injuries to treat instead of treating those already in line for service related treatment.

Crazy.

OWB

Should have said, “injuries and other medical issues”

Candle

I personally find it appalling, I too am a vet but I would never think of going to the VA with problems that are not service connected. (I know none of mine are related to anything I did while enlisted)

4/44th 38th Artty

I have had private medical insurance most of my life. In fact, I was being treated for a service connected injury when two buddies, one AF and the USMC had to nearly drag my ass to the VA. I found the process easy to navigate as long as you remain the squeaky wheel, which I am good. I think that is also service connected. I am getter service connected disability now but really could have gone 30 years ago. Anyway, this Clarno shit (and it is not the first nor will it be the last.)is a totally FUBAR FUBAR to the max!
At times I am so naive’ but I should learn by now. I pray for all my brothers and sisters depending on the VA for life saving treatment. Oh, yeah, the reason Clarno has that “haunting” feel is because she can see the law suits as they are being prepared and filed even now – and she deserves to loose every red nickle she has ever earned, including any retirement and pension she may have coming. Turn it all over to the families, the children and grandchildren of the brothers and sisters allowed to die. Anyone every hear of Nazi Germany?

Just An Old Dog

You actually have to already be in the VA system to get this care. It’s not like they go knocking on doors to find veterans with non service related injuries.
Disabled Vets get treated for other health issues, they just dont get a pension rating for non-service related ones.
It’s one of the perks of service. Don’t talk too loud they may yasnk that as well.

Hondo

I’ll play devil’s advocate here. Why in the hell SHOULD the VA treat anyone who’s not 100% service-connected (and maybe bona fide – e.g., those declared by DoD to have been POWs held by enemies of the US) for non-service-connected conditions other than on a full fee-for-service basis?

Best I can tell, that wasn’t originally part of “the deal”. It’s something that’s developed recently, as in over the last 10-20 years.

Old Trooper

I get my annual physical out there in order to “stay in the system” and my eye exams/glasses are covered, as well as other things involving my service related disability. Other than that; I don’t get treated out there, because I do have private insurance and doctor. The VA bills my insurance for my annual physical and anything not related to what they cover.

Twist

I only go to the VA for the things that are service connected. I’m not going to take up an appointment slot for something like high blood pressure when there is another Veteran who needs it for getting checked out for a combat wound.

OWB

Uhm, no, believe it or not, they DO go out looking for guys with military service who are not already in the program. Not sure if it extends to knocking on doors, though.

Personal experience, which I’ve repeated here several times: Homeless guy, personable, intelligent, who just prefers living out n the open in an urban environment is approached by a young woman with a clipboard and is asked if he is a veteran. He is. She discovers that he had a knee injury prior to his couple of years of service back in the day. He explains that it was not service related.

After she followed him around with forms to sign for a week or so, he finally relented in signing her forms, still insisting that he was not due VA bennies. Within a week, he was set up in an apartment, being driven to a clinic, and got his first check a few days after that.

Discussion here cited all the details about how this came to be, and it was not just for homeless vets. It was legit in site of it smelling to high heaven that there are employees (or contractors) out recruiting folks to enter the VA system while others are being ignored.

Semper Idem

So…let Veterans suffer and die because advocating for them means talking to a member of ‘that other party’? How unseemly.

Hell, I’d gladly talk to the Devil himself if that meant getting Veterans needed care. Sometimes ya gotta’ put personal opinion aside and do your got-damn job. I’ve had to deal with assholes to get what I needed. It’s called ‘real life’ and it’s sooooo much different from the special-snowflake world of academia / politics.

As far as Clarno is concerned, how about a nice handshake and a warm bowl of soup?

20thEB67

Right. Academia has become the root our current societal decline because universities are actually teaching students that they need not speak with anyone that may offend their moral compass. People are taught how to weave themselves into a cocoon, and the result is cranking out educated assholes, to the nth degree!

This Carno bitch, and Duckworth(less) should be ashamed, if not prosecuted.
Both should go piss up a rope. Fuck them.

4/44th 38th Artty

Semper, You might not be that far off in your reference to the devil in getting care for a brother or sister.

Hondo

As far as Clarno is concerned, how about a nice handshake and a warm bowl of soup?

OK, I guess. Personally I’d prefer to see her get a pink slip and be told, “Don’t let the doorknob hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.”

Yeah, I know that will never happen – especially as she’s the local union rep. But one can dream.

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STSC(SW/SS)

If there ever was a reason to bring back Keel Hauling this woman is it.

HMC Ret

“…because she didn’t want to talk to any Republicans.”

I don’t believe that for a second. I believe she ‘went along to get along.’ Her now using that as an argument is simply an attempt to save her ass.

Any argument she now uses makes her lower than whale feces.

IDC SARC

I agree…I doubt she would pass up a chance to drop a problem squarely onto a Republican’s lap. The satisfaction of forcing someone you despise to do their job while at the same time advocating for the people you’re supposed to be helping should have been priceless.

Hondo

Actually, IDC SARC, here it makes political sense that she’d refrain from going to a member of the opposite party.

Her party currently controls the White House and is responsible for the VA. Going to a member of the opposition for help means giving the opposition an issue (or another example of a known issue) with which to make her party look bad.

I believe that’s exactly why she stood by and did nothing. She put her politics above doing the right thing – and above people’s lives.

Old Trooper

No, Hondo, I think the reason she didn’t want to go to a republican is that she was afraid they would actually get something done and burst the bubble of incompetence.

Hondo

In the words from an old commercial: “How’re they gonna do that?”

Since 2009, the GOP hasn’t controlled appointments at the VA. VA senior leadership is all political appointees. That means the GOP had no direct influence on its daily operations.

The only tools the Congress has in such a case besides holding hearings is withholding funding or blocking appointments. Those would be counterproductive (“Those heartless bastards are screwing vets for political reasons!”) and is thus not really a viable option.

She goes to a member of the opposing party, all she’s doing is handing her opponents a club to use against her party. That’s particularly true when it comes out later that she’d already approached members of her own party and gotten no action.

IMO, she made exactly the political calculation above – and then chose to stand by and do nothing.

OldManchu

Die from the inside out Bitch! Starting from your rotten crotch cunt!

Herbert J Messkit

You would think taking care of veterans would be apolitical, but progressives can’t help themselves they have to politicize everything.

2/17 Air Cav

Man. This makes my day. In this thread we have what I believe to be two of the greatest tags, or screen names, in internet history: Herber J Messkit and Pygmy Puncher.

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Hondo

Neither has my personal favorite, who often comments here: “Synan D. Bauchery”. (smile)