Phony soldiers at IVAW
Our friend Paul C from Independently Correct had an exchange with our old buddy Adam Kokesh while they were on YouTube at Michelle Malkin’s famous Jason Mattera video of members of IVAW admitting that they wouldn’t testify under oath. In the exchange, Paul mentioned Jesse Macbeth, the original phony soldier. In his usual paranoid way, Kokesh claims that MacBeth was a government plant.
Funny how MacBeth ended up in jail for all of his phony soldier undercover stuff. That’s some deep cover, boy.
But Kokesh says he’s in IVAW to make sure there are “no fakers”? Well, lets look at Kokesh’s profile at IVAW shall we?
Kokesh wasn’t a sergeant when he was discharged – he was busted for smuggling an Iraqi pistol back to the States. There’s no mention of that in his profile either – just that he had volunteered to go back to Iraq but ended up in a training center. No mention that his request to return was denied because he was untrustworthy. In fact, Kokesh and I went through all of this once before in June. And he’s still clinging to his phony title.
How about our old buddy Jon deWald – let’s look at his profile at IVAW;
de Wald was a Sergeant when he was discharged, not a staff sergeant. He was promotable but he wasn’t promoted. He claims the Army put Sergeant on his discharge but that they pay him retired pay as a staff sergeant. Well, folks who don’t understand the military pay system might believe that, but I know that your retirement pay is based on the amount you earned the last three months you served on active duty, not on your pay rate at the time you retired. de Wald was medically retired as a sergeant, not a staff sergeant.
I guess “no fakers” means different things to different people.
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Turds of a feather…
You’re wrong on a few counts here, Jonn. I was a staff sergeant, period, and my DD 214 reflects this quite clearly. It also notes that I am not retired from the army but was medically discharged. I don’t receive a pension from the army; I was granted a single payment whose value was determined by a formula that considered the length of my service along with my pay rate: E-6. You’re conflating two different pay scales: the one you’re payed under and the one I was discharged under. Faker, huh? I’ve always been honest about my record. I’ve always been up front about the fact that, although I belonged to IVAW for a time, I was never myself in Iraq. I think that’s more than can be said for some of the guys you run with. Mark Seavey, also never in Iraq, won’t even fess to his own name. I took care of that for him after he slandered IAVA regarding their vets’ issues scorecard. What’s that McCain always says? “I’ll make you famous!” I made Mark famous. I told Paul Reickhoff personally who “TSO” was. Hope that works out for him. And Pete Hegseth? According to every fellow Rakkasan I’ve spoken with, he spent his whopping three-month tour of Iraq in his rack or in an up-armored Humvee. Must be a Princeton thing. How about David Bellavia, still claiming he’s under consideration for the Medal of Honor and Distinguished Service Cross? Sorry; declined on both counts. I can see that. I can see how a guy who’s shaped like most grandmothers could be doubted when he claims to have dispatched a dozen armed men with his bare hands while no one else saw him do the deed. I wonder about your record as well. A journalist with a CIB? I don’t know. Weirder things have happened. Could be you’re not full of shit. But you’re kind of hard to take seriously. You know how to contact me; you could’ve asked to see my DD 214 or any number of questions to clear up your concerns about my veracity.… Read more »
What’s the matter Jon? Why’d you quit? Was Adam making you ride bitch on the bicycle?
The only email I ever sent you originated from an AKO account. That is the only email account I’ve ever used and I saved a copy of the message I sent. In it I did not mention my military career. This other email you have, if it even in fact exists, was not sent by me.
At any rate, since I’m not a member of IVAW – and you can verify this by contacting your snitch/plant Selena, the Board of Directors, the membership director or the webmaster, all of whom can be reached through ivaw.org (something you might’ve considered before posting) – can you leave me out of this? It’s a bit ridiculous to critique IVAW’s membership quality as “phony” by using an example of someone who isn’t a member and has never made any irresponsible claim about his service. I’ve never said anything untrue about my ten years in the United States Army.
Jonn wrote: Do you mean this email not sent from an AKO account in which you admit that didn’t get promoted to E6 because you busted an E7 in the mouth;
The only occasions I ever struck other NCOs were in boxing rings.
I’m pretty sure we covered this ground before: I do not have and have never had a Gmail account, not under my name or anyone else’s. The only email account I’ve ever had has been my AKO account. I can’t account for the image you posted and I don’t have to. If you believe it has some kind of probative value then file a criminal complaint and see me arrested for the threats contained in it. If you have a solitary shred of evidence I am the source of that email I’d pay to see it.
You should take a bit of caution in the things you post in this blog, at least as they pertain to me. I – and Bellavia & Co. can vouch for this, as they were named in the suit – sued VFF in a Wisconsin court over content they featured on their website regarding me. They had the presence of mind to remove that content before risking a $250,000 tort judgment against them. You run the same risk. You can either just leave me alone and out of your obsessive concern with IVAW or you can explain to a North Carolina court why there’s such discrepancy between your claims about me and the evidentiary burden you have to meet to make such claims. If you think I’m kidding, put me to the test. Make me the subject of another defamatory entry in your blog. See what happens.
Jonn wrote: Well, you’ve seen a portion of my evidence – it was enough evidence for the IVAW to suspend your membership when I forwarded it to them. If you think you have a case, go for it. Don’t write checks you can’t cash. You and I both know the truth. the difference between us is that I’m not afraid of the truth.
The difference between us is I’m not afraid of anything. And I’ve laid the gauntlet. I think we’re finished here.
Hey deWald,
Bellavia has a Silver Star and you’re not.
So, DeWald is now back to threatening lawsuits without merit to force people to do things? How entertaining. Also, using the courts in this way is something that can get a lawyer royally screwed, so frankly, I look forward to this playing out.
Also, TSO fessed to his name on several occassions. Oh, and also sent word to Paul who I was through another person in IAVA. Thanks for playing DeWald, now go back into your hole.
I’m not even going to defend Bells. Frankly, no one ever needs to. But, to believe DeWald you need to believe that somehow Bells got Michael Ware of Time to fake his report. That was an interesting feat.
I’ll let Bells know you send your love.
you could’ve asked to see my DD 214 or any number of questions to clear up your concerns about my veracity.
Scan it and post it here, or are you all talk and no balls.
People who claim to be afraid of nothing are usually afraid of everything.
I’d like to see a copy of the judgment against the VFF.
There was none skye. David took it down so he didn’t need to deal with this retard. That was after David called him and brave Polish Sniper here wouldn’t talk to him.
Mark, you are straight-up full of shit. Bellavia never, ever called on me and I gave him my fucking phone number and home address and begged him to. If he told you otherwise he’s a lying pussy, traits a lot of you conservative-types seem to share. You never said word one about your identity to Reickhoff despite repeated entreaties to do so. I had to tell him myself because you were too scared to. I notice you’re not making any effort to defend Hegseth’s three months of FOB-based eyebrow-waxing. Perhaps it reminds you of how you wasted your time in Afghanistan, you tubby fake. And all Ware reported was what Bellavia told him; he didn’t see anything and neither did anyone else. But you’re right about one thing: there wasn’t a judgment; you guys caved like frat-boys in Pelican Bay as soon as my attorney filed. Go ahead and tell Bellavia what I wrote. Please do. The guy’s shaped like a pear. What’s he going to about it? Blog about me and get sued again? In fact, give him my email address: jonathan.dewald@us.army.mil Then he, you, whoever the fuck Skye is and anybody who wants to talk to me personally can get my phone number and address here at Fort Bragg. We can chop it up over the phone and finally, finally bury this thing or if you really – bizarrely – want to see my 214 you can come to my house. Fuck it, I’ll meet you at a place and time of your choosing. But we’ll make the arrangements through my AKO account. I’m sick of my fucking name turning up on these idiotic blogs because you people have a problem… with what, exactly? IVAW? I’m not a member anymore. Sorry. So just email me: you, Skye, Jonn, Jingle Bells or whatever the fuck you call him and anybody else that has a problem with me, the non-member of IVAW, and we can all sit down somewhere and pore over my 214 and you can tell me what you think of me and my name can be left… Read more »
You are a fucking moron, straight up.
little jonny soldier – “I’m sick of my fucking name turning up on these idiotic blogs because you people have a problem… with what, exactly? IVAW? I’m not a member anymore”
Well jonny, PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you’re sick and tired of your name showing uop on out blogs, then RENOUNCE the ivaw, REPENT of your anti-military sins, and become a REAL American once again!!
You might even get a bear hug from some of us in return for your REAL patriotism 😀
Gmail account or not, the bravado coming from DeWald is still the same. All bark and nothing to back it up.
Then he, you, whoever the fuck Skye is and anybody who wants to talk to me personally can get my phone number and address here at Fort Bragg.
It seems my comments have drawn blood from De Wald. I did not know he was that thin skinned.
When you denounce IVAW and produce your dd214 as I have directed you to do, then you may converse with me. Until then, your are nothing more than a bloviating prick
That was after David called him and brave Polish Sniper here wouldn’t talk to him
I’m sure a copy of the phone record would shut him up? Right?
Dude, why are you dissing the Poles!!! They are good people, unlike dewald.
Those of you who are willing to hold hands and skip down the rainbow path with this guy if he just denounces IVAW are showing where your true colors are.
That said, DeWald, you couldn’t be doing a better job if you were a plant. The only thing I’m glad of is I’m pretty sure this breaks the terms of your probationary readmission. But then, I was always pretty sure you didn’t want to come back for any other reason but to prove you could. I hope you appreciate how bad you made all the people who argued in your favor look just now. This pisses me off, because some of them I actually like.
Everyone else, I’m not going to apologize for this guy anymore. I’m fucking sick of it. I don’t have the energy or the responsibility for it.
Ah, yes, another De Wald super fun time thread. It’s Deja Vu all over again.
No. No, it’s really not. I posted, but I think it went to moderation for the profanity.
Wow, did I just see a gutless, hate-filled, TRAITOROUS, anti-military extremist PUBLICLY throw one of her own under the bus??????????????????????????????????
Jonn wrote: Actually, I wouldn’t call Army Sergeant gutless, hate-filled, traitorous, anti-military or an extremist. I really hate it when you guys force me into defending these IVAW folks – even Army Sergeant. If I thought she were any of those things, I would have said so long ago. In fact, I think she is just in the wrong organization.
Mostly, I despise IVAW because the people they put in their fore are liars and poseurs – I enjoy tearing their paper-thin disguises apart. Unfortunately, there are some decent people in IVAW who should know better than to associate with the sociopaths – they should probably go to IAVA which is the lesser of the two evils and let IVAW wither on the vine.
Wow… How screwed up do you have to be to get kicked out of the IVAW? Too much of a loser to hang out with the rest of the losers. Sucks to be Buddyfukked hey Jon? What a POS.
Yes Jonn, you’re right, she IS in the wrong organization!
She needs to choose between the UNITED STATES ARMY, and the ivaw; she CANNOT be a part of both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jonn wrote: I can’t argue with that.
Guys,
Learning more and more about the VVAW pukes in the VFP Chapter 31 cadre who set up IVAW.
Seems Joe Bangert acted out so he’d be committed to rehab by a Judge rather than testify under oath about Winter Soldier.
Some great stuff.
Threats from the Dewald: Dewald, Jonathan P SGT RET to midnightbluesays@gmail.com date Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM subject Direction. mailed-by us.army.mil signed-by us.army.mil hide details 9:46 PM (21 hours ago) Reply “As I directed you to do… ” Lady, that was hysterical. I haven’t laughed that hard since being told Mark Seavey hid under a table upon hearing I was at Winter Soldier 2. No, nobody directs me to anything. Certainly no civilian. I don’t have any need to denounce IVAW or anything else. I’m not involved in whatever extremely serious web-based dispute you people have with IVAW. In fact – nothing personal – but I don’t take at all seriously any claim a person makes to patriotism if they haven’t served this country in uniform so long as they were able; as a result, I don’t take you seriously, unless you have some excuse for failing to take up literal arms in defense of this country. Hysterical blindness, mental retardation, something on that order. Again, nothing personal. But trying to discuss matters of war and patriotic duty with a civilian is – for me – like trying to carry on a conversation in Koine Greek with someone who doesn’t speak it. This is probably just a character defect I suffer, not anything inherently bizarre about a civilian lecturing a veteran on duty and national responsibility. In other words, even if I cared about IVAW or its detractors, there are quite a few people I wouldn’t deign to speak to, you among them. But I don’t, so that’s neither here nor there. Hopefully this demonstrates why, and why I don’t want to be the topic of any discussions you people hold publicly. As for my DD 214, I can’t imagine why you’d want to see it, now knowing that I’m no longer an IVAW member and in fact no longer even involved peripherally with this debate. If you really, really want to see it, just tell me where and when, and you can organize a little field trip with the Gathering of Eagles (check your protest placards for… Read more »
Welllll I hate to break it to Jon, but the military in the United States answers to civilians, not the other way around. Skye has NOTHING to apologize for to a buddyfukking pud puller like you. She has done more to support REAL soldiers and their families than your sad sack ass did during your entire Army career. Go ahead and question MY service shitbird… I was qualified on submarines and making Patrols when you were squeezing out tootsie rolls in your Pampers. The ONLY one your “shiny badges” impress is your pinhead self. You have NO standing in my, or any other honerable Vet’s eyes. I’ll bet Benedict Arnold’s uniform looked pretty impressive too.
Benedict Arnold was RWVAW, Revolutionary War Veterans Against the War.
I always notice IVAW loudmouths like DeWald always use the lame excuse against us, “if you support the war so much, why don’t you serve, civillian?” Yet, all the hippie scum who burn the flag and hate the military while deriding them with every insult under the sun NEVER get the same cross examination from folks like him. And yet he, by his own admission, has NEVER BEEN to Iraq.
Hey Dewald,
Your rants are clearly indicative of an emotionally retarded individual. Throwing imbecilic tantrums against the military and your country is his way of compensating for your intellectual impotence. For someone who served in the Army, you’re totally clueless.
To top it all off, you’re NOT EVEN A WAR VETERAN, yet you were allowed into an organization with the “Iraq Veterans” designation in the title. How token.
DeWald, in case the point has never been made, you’re a fucking abject loser and a poser.
Your a joke and an embarrassment to anyone who has honorably served. Do everyone a favor and get lost, asshole.
Oh yeah, and this is a sidesplitter:
“Your rights are born from my sacrifice; you don’t get to pick and choose the veterans you respect. We’ve all earned it.”
Not you, sweetcakes. There are former Soldiers on here, myself included, who look at the piss poor example you set and wonder why in the fuck you were ever permitted in our Army to start with. You’re a disgrace.
Note to Army Sergeant:
We don’t need the likes of DeWald to find fault with the IVAW. The mere fact that such a motley crew exists in the first place, is enough to prove your true colors.