Politico: Veterans retreating from Obama
Poetrooper sends us a link to Politico which seems surprised that veterans aren’t supporting Obama in the numbers that everyone expected. Apparently we’re supposed to be grateful that Obama “got” bin Laden and ended the Iraq War, but veterans are able to see through the smoke and mirrors, much to the chagrin of the Democrats;
Back in May, Obama had the lead among Afghanistan and Iraq veterans. But a Reuters/Ipsos poll from September says that’s evaporated, with Romney now up 48 percent to 34 percent.
Obama campaign aides said the slip in the polls needs to be considered alongside recent surveys showing the president ahead of Romney on questions regarding foreign policy, leadership and keeping the country safe from terrorist attacks.
The Obama campaign makes some good points about the Romney campaign, in that Romney has all but ignored veterans and the troops serving in the war against terror;
Obama campaign spokeswoman Clo Ewing predicted that the president’s standing among veterans would improve by November, flagging a Zogby poll released Monday that puts Obama up 14 points with a small sample of active-duty military and their family members.
Ewing also knocked the Republican’s omission of the Afghanistan troops “during the most important speech of his career” at last month’s Republican National Convention in Tampa and swung at Romney for proposing a voucher program for veterans benefits. “Mitt Romney hasn’t shown he will stand up for the military family and veterans community,” she said.
Yeah, well, the Obama Administration hasn’t “stood up” for veterans, either. Yeah, they’ve increased spending at the VA, but the other hand is increasing our Tricare costs, and we can’t forget that Obama wanted us all to buy health insurance to cover our service-connected disabilities early in his term. The only reason he didn’t follow through with it was because he needed to get re-elected. So what’s to stop him from doing in the next four years? Obama went through the motions of fighting the war against terror without really doing that which is necessary to win. Most veterans opposed the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, but somehow the Obama campaign thinks that helps them.
Basically, the Obama Administration is vulnerable on the issue of veterans and national defense, unfortunately for the Republicans, so is Romney which is obvious because he won’t summon the testicular fortitude to confront Obama on those issues. So, it’s a coin toss.
Category: 2012 election, Veterans Issues
I had to LOL a few times while reading some of the posts on this thread from our lefty friends.
16T in debt, sputtering economy, world in chaos, and you want to complain about the GOP wanting vets rated 0% disabled to pay copays at the VA, or not blindly throwing more money into another failed jobs bill? Vet issues are important, but there’s a much bigger picture here.
I remember when I used to think the world revolved around me, too…of course, I was a child back then.
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@41- That’s true for national polls, Hondo. I have no idea where the 13% differential was found. It could of been New York or Massachussetts where that number would be expected. If there was a 20 point differential in favor of Republicans in Utah would you be surprised?
Sippy – no, I wouldn’t. But I also wouldn’t quote a margin I knew or suspected to be for one state in a context that implied that it was a national margin, either. And I believe the polls you referenced above were national polls – which means the implied context was national, not local/state/regional.
@37- It does look like 5 polls had Carter ahead, however the vast majority had Reagan ahead (there seemed to be at least 20 polls here.
But still, invoking Reagan is an admission that your guy is losing RIGHT NOW isn’t it? It’s one thing to say “My guy can still win”. I’d even agree with that statement. Althoug i believe it unlikely for him to win that possibility does exist.
But that’s a far cry from saying “it’s a coin toss”. One statement is optimistic, the other is departing from reality.
@55
No. It’s a statement of “Polls aren’t the end-all be-all people pretend they are”.
Actually, Sippy – it was intended as a demonstration that you were incorrect. As the WaPo article I cited stated, that election was neck and neck until the final week – when things broke Reagan’s way bigtime. That’s what the poll results show happened in 1980 – a definitive decision by the roughly 10% who were undecided in the last week or so of the campaign, overwhelmingly in Reagan’s favor. That matches my recollection of events.
This election appears pretty much neck-and-neck at this point, too. But my crystal ball is dirty today, and never was that reliable anyway. So we’ll have to wait for early Nov to see the outcome.
Your article doesn’t show that at all. I saw five polls that had Carter ahead, the rest showed Reagan ahead. Furthermore Reagan was consistently ahead up until the Dem convention.
Either way, right now President Obama is ahead. Hanging your hopes on an event from 32 years ago (one that involved a significant third party candidate to boot) is tenuous at best. Again, i’d rather be on my side than yours.
Yep,a real “coin toss”:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/presidential-polls-2012_n_1915456.html
@58
“Again, i’d rather be on my side than yours.”
And there’s the problem. Politics is a us vs them mentality. It’s very tiresome.
@59….Ooooh, HoffPo polls, because, ya know…they’d NEVEr be biased or anything. lmao
Hey, lookie here, Instupid… I can find polls too:
http://unskewedpolls.com/
Yeah, Sippy – this election’s looking really one-sided right now.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/romney_vs_obama/september_2012/romney_vs_obama_september_26_2012/819925-1-eng-US/romney_vs_obama_september_26_2012.jpg
If I recall correctly, Rassmussen has the best track record among all the polls as being an accurate predictor.
Lol. You know republicans are in trouble when they have to make up their own polling sites. Reality not your friend? Make up a new reality in which Rommey is winning! While that site might be nice to cling to, it won’t help you come November 7th. The fact is that Nate Silver has been extremely accurate the last three elections and he has Obama at close to an 80% chance of winning in November.
As I said, your guy CAN win. His best hope is an economic catastrophe since his campaign has shown no ability thus far to force an error on Obama’s part. However there’s no doubt that as of right now, this race is not a “coin toss”.
This election hangs, in my opinion, entirely upon how many military members can be disenfranchised and how many illegitimate votes can successfully be counted for the poser.
The intention to have ineligible voters in huge numbers voting for the poser has been telegraphed by the lefties. There simply is no other reason to oppose voter ID. And the dirty tricks have already begun with military voters.
It is terribly disappointing that perhaps the greatest right we have – the one to cast our vote for whomever we choose, for whatever reasons we wish – is taken for granted and/or abused by so many.
Yo Sippy Cup,
“Yes We CAN” (stolen from Obama 2008) win and we will win. There is a change coming and it has no relation with hope.
POTUS “crawled” to the podium at the UNGA yesterday and gave an underwhelming speech. He would not meet with any leaders while in NYC, but he appeared on the “View”.
His Presidency is over … look at polling for the 1980 election. Moreover, wait till next week after the debate. POTUS has no record to be re-elected on, little respect amoung leaders, his numbers are not looking strong (as compared to previous elections), and the people of this great Nation now realize the whole HOPE and CHANGE thingy just did not work out.
Stealing from Newt:
“Hillary Clinton is a serious person. Barack Obama is an ambitious person. They’re very different personalities. Hillary Clinton actually gets up every day thinking about public policy. Barack Obama gets up every day thinking about Barack Obama. I mean, they’re very different approaches to life.”
I am not a big Clinton family fan, but Newt is spot on!
@64… Don’t discount bad weather in certain portions of the country. For example, you get an early snowstorm in parts of Ohio and rainstorm in Northern Virginia or south Florida, and many of Obama’s supporters may opt to not go to the polls. Depending on how Romney fares over the next month, the election may be tight enough where weather could make the difference.
Boconomics:
Bush debt: $4.9 trillion after 8 yrs
Bo: $5.4 trillion after 3 yrs,9 mos
CBO statistics, non-partisan, independent office