VoteVets’ tens of supporters all fired up to read Romney’s tax returns
This is the most strained logic imagineable, but it is VoteVets, and that’s what we’ve come to love about them.
Some notes:
1) The tax structure and reporting mechanisms are set by Congress. Mitt Romney has never served in the Congress. If you have a problem with the tax laws, why not go after the people that make them instead of the people following them?
2) Soltz: “this is something the public has a right to disclosure on.” Really? Where does that right originate from? I have a right to say that Jon Soltz looks like an uncircumsized penis, and that he looks like he should be enticing kids with candy into his windowless van down by by the river. The First Amendment gives me that right. Now, explain to me what right someone has to the tax filings of another citizen. Show me where that is. Rights have to stem from a source, and I’d love to know what source he is referring to. Also, would Jon have also argued back in the day that troops have a right to see their Commander-in-Cheifs birth certificate? Because I don’t remember hearing them say that. Granted, I think the birther thing is horseshit, but no more or less so than an imagined right to see a candidates tax returns. (As a sidenote, when Ed here says that everything Romney is doing is legal, and that while it might not seem right to the average Joe but it is legal, he’s the only one with even a modicum of common sense.)
3) He did a poll with Celinda Lake. Oh, you mean a Democratic strategist did a poll for a non-partisan group? That’s interesting I think, no? I’m sure you’ll use Frank Luntz next time just to ensure that you aren’t aligned with a political party, right Jon? “These people are appauled to find out…” Wait, I thought it was a poll? So you educate them, and then ask them about what they just learned?
4) Regarding that poll, VoteVets only has the summary up, not the indepth stuff, so we have no idea how the questions were asked, what the samples were, how they played with the numbers, etc. What we do have is this asinine statement:
“At a time when our men and women in uniform are putting their lives on the line for America, and paying taxes, we need to know if Mitt Romney is making a fair contribution to America, our troops, and our veterans,” said Jon Soltz, Iraq War Veteran, and Chairman of VoteVets.org. “We need to know if, as a multi-millionaire, he is paying his fair share to provide for our troops in the field, and their care when they come home. It would be extremely disconcerting to have someone running to be Commander in Chief who is paying a lower tax rate than the majority of our troops and military retirees.”
No, you don’t “need to know” you want to know. You don’t need to know shit, since as long as he has an R after his name, you aren’t voting for him anyway. If it would be disconcerting to have Romney paying a lower rate, why don’t you use your extensive influence with Harry Reid to change the tax code? Romney pays what the Gov’t tell him to pay, not what some penis-headed jackwagon running a faux-veterans group wants him to pay.
5) You know who’s taxes and financial info I want to see? VoteVets. I can’t find it, but maybe one of you can. I don’t think they file a Form 990, because they aren’t even a real Veterans Organization, and are not under 501(c)(19) either. I’d like to know how much they pay this moron, and I’d like to know where that money comes from.
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Soltz must still be untwisting his brain from the pretzel-like logic he used to tie this issue to his organization and their stated purpose to advocate for veterans of the current conflict. I’m sure that the spammer constituency that he and dicksmith have built at VetVoice is mightily concerned about Romney’s taxes.
By the way, I make way more than #60k/yr and my real tax rate hovers around 5%. And it’s still too much.
Odd, I don’t recall an outcry against John Kerry’s 13% tax rate…………….
VV’s problem isn’t with tax rates, it’s with the GOP. They prove it with every posting and utterance.
I think I got this from Time:
Veterans Against VoteVets
A national unregistered organization of veterans and their supporters today called on VoteVets to release their tax information in the wake of their ludicrous demands that Romney release his own personal tax filings.
“We have a right to see what VoteVets is doing for our veterans, and the 17 people they have that still buy into their horseshit” said Rufus T. Dingleberry, a former SEAL with Delta Force’s 1st Cavalry Division. “Jon Soltz has been speaking on our behalf, and for the life of me I don’t remember hiring him as my spokesman.”
VoteVets is an organization that is completely non-partisan, having endorsed 19 Democrats and no Republicans in recent election cycles. Generally they hire Democrat pollsters and party activists to do all their decision making for them, but also claim not to be beholden to any political party.
Among the poor and destitute who serve on their Board, VoteVets has several Generals who no doubt pay upwards of 110% of their salaries in taxes, the Chairman and CEO of EMI’s Capitol Music Group, the President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, a lecturer at Harvard who worked in the Clinton White House, a former Democratic Senator who ran for President, the Managing Director at The Camelot Group (a Private Equity Advisory firm) and some homeless guy named Phil.
5% tax rate? E-mail me the name of your accountant!
Am still trying to figure out why any of us needs to see anyone else’s tax returns.
With all the actual issues there are to discuss about any and every candidate, this one is never gonna make the list in this household.
But if we could turn the clock back a few decades, thiswas exactly the sort of thing I heard about as a kid when my elders would bloviate about SSAN’s, filing tax returns, and the general evils of government intrusion into peoples’ lives.
It sounded like crazy talk at the time. Too bad it’s all come true.
Sparky, you already know the name of my accountant.
Timmy “TurboTax” Geitner is your accountant?
When Ed Schultz is the only one in the group that has a modicum of common sense, it doesn’t really say much for the group, does it?
And, I thought that Rufus was the SEAL who drove the M-1A1 in Iraq, got wounded and recovered at the closed Army base, who made a guest appearance on Last Man Standing the other night?
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I loved that episode… I half expected a “Stolen Valor” post here about it.
And, of course, aftet I post above I scroll down some more and see that there IS a post about it.
@ #4 – TSO; That is priceless! lmao!
I got through about half a minute an could take no more of Stolz’s convulted logic. I love how he turns minutia into Vet issues. All vets wipe their asses right? Solid bowel movements and colonoscopies must be the domain of VoteVets. What a tool.
“we need to know if Mitt Romney is making a fair contribution to America..” What is fair Stolz?
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