Lie down with dogs
I can already see the ALL CAPS!!!!!! comments I’m going to get for this one. But here goes.
Greyhawk has a bit up about U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook who has refused to deploy to Afghanistan because he thinks that Barack Obama isn’t a US citizen and therefore, can’t order him to war (or the rest of the military). According to this major; “[The entire army] becomes merely a corps of chattel slaves under the illegitimate control of a private citizen.”
In my opinion, who is Stefan Frederick Cook? As foolish as I think it was, the American people elected Barrack Obama to be our President. It may turn out to be that he deceived us, but who is one soldier (who is actually obeying the American people, by the way, by pledging his allegiance to the Constitution) to refuse to do his duty with no real proof that his President isn’t eligible to be President? I assume that the Major joined during the Bush Administration – did he ever see President Bush’s birth certificate? Is every President now required to show his birth certificate to every major in the Army? Act your age, Cook.
Does the Left get a pass? Nope. I went over to “Courage to Resist” – they’re the folks who are protecting and defending the likes of Kimberly Rivera, Dustin Che Stevens, Travis Bishop and Victor Agosto who are all refusing to deploy to various assignments. The motto of CTR is “Support the troops who refuse to fight”. So where’s their support for Major (soon to be Inmate) Cook? Cook is claiming Conscientious Objector status, just like the aforementioned doofuses (or is it doofi?).
Yeah, I know, they’re all taking a principled stand. I’m sure Cook will enjoy his cellmates constantly pointing that out. Kind of like Ron Paul wondering why all of the KKKers and Nazis were at his rallies.
But in the meantime, I don’t see CTR, IVAW or Vets For Peace carrying around “Free Cook” signs either.
Category: Antiwar crowd, Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Phony soldiers, Usual Suspects
This stuff just makes us look bad. What happens when Obama produces the Nirth Certifikate? Do we double down and claim it is fake? And who is in such an all-fired rush to have Biden as our President. Drop it. This is stoopid.
BTW Jonn- Thanks for posting, the herculean task of my carrying this blog all on my own was getting old. I mean really, I need more help lately.
Jonn wrote: Yeah, you just posted what I post every day (and weekends) and you’re wore out. Poor thing. Maybe you’ll be able to rest up at your new home between Bugtussel and Hooterville.
Yep–this works both ways. Like it or not, Major, unless and until proven otherwise, he’s your duly elected C-in-C and as such, any orders you get from him, i.e., deployment, should be considered legal. I bore no love for Clinton, but he WAS the President, and as such, I carried out the orders of him and the officers above me to the best of my ability.
IOW, Major–reach down, nut up, and do your job whether you like it or not. Sir.
You’d think the anti war groups would be thrilled to have a mid level commissioned officer in their midst.
The birth certificate issue is such a waste of time. Even were it proved today that he was not a citizen, what would the country do? Put VP Biden in charge? Not to mention the legal issues that could jump up. Would every law Pres Obama signed be repealed? Every Executive Order nullified?
I suspect the (soon to be ex) Major is just using the birth certificate issue because it is convenient.
Obama’s birth certificate is an issue because he’s spent over 500,000 to defend against having to show it-I say do the right thing, produce it and put the issue to rest. As for Maj. Cook, he is being asked to fight a war begun under another President and besides, soldiers swear an oath to the Constitution, not the CIC.
Ditto, Athena. However, the courts have ruled that no one has standing to see his BC. So, until that’s straightened out, he’s the Pres. Dave, what would you suggest happen if it were proved that he wasn’t a citizen? First, I doubt that it will ever be “proved”. No matter what turns up where, one side will scream it’s legitimate, not matter what the BC says, the other side will scream it’s a fake, fraud, forgery. So, we’re back where we started.
Sounds to me like the major just does not want to deploy.
That’s the problem, North, what would happen? Can you imagine the political fistfight as people go back and forth?
Not a great idea when we are still fighting AQ.
There is an INFINITESIMALLY, MINUTE, MICRON-MICROSCOPICALLY SMALL CHANCE that the Maj DOES have standing- and that he may be backed by those seeking standing to force the bc to be shown.
IF, and a HUGE HUGE IF the court rules he has standing (by way of being CiC and ordering him to the war) then they may get that bc out into the open.
Or not.
Wolf
If Obama had really been born in Mombasa Al Queda would have gotten to it and dumped it on the world by now, let alone the Clintons. The fallout would be biblical.
Dave Thul wrote: “You’d think the anti war groups would be thrilled to have a mid level commissioned officer in their midst.” Well, just so you know, having mid-level commisssioned officers is not exactly anything new to the antiwar movement. While not well known like the kind of folks you all write about here, one of the founding members of my VFP chapter in Atlanta is a retired AF major (prior enlisted before getting commissioned). Another one of the founding members was a Navy jet pilot who served two combat tours in Vietnam (I have pictures…) There is also a former Army major (formerly in the Military Police Corps, to my recollection) from Salt Lake City, if I’m remembering right (and a pure hell-raiser, too, as I recall), along with a couple others who I have met at one place or another, also both majors from the Army MP Corps, to my recollection. In fact, come to think of it, I either have a very bizarre memory, or this is actually rather bizarre, now that I think about it some more…probably I’m losing or something. Well, of those, one was on Cynthia McKinney’s staff, former CID actually, and showed up at something I was speaking at in Atlanta one time, so he doesn’t really count as he was really only there representing Rep. McKinney, who couldn’t make it. But the others were, and/or are, VFP members. Not necessarily deeply involved, but were around. The one in my former VFP chapter used to do some public speaking, sometimes at antiwar events; perhaps still does. Besides all that, of course, as you well know, we’ve had retired Army colonel Ann Wright, one of the lovliest women I’ve ever known, with us since at least 2005 when she set out with Cindy Sheehan from our VFP convention in Dallas, Texas in one of the VFP buses and went to Crawford and camped out in a ditch outside of Bush’s ranch. Not to mention…that female retired general from Abu Ghraib (wasn’t she in the MP Corps also?) out speaking for a while at events… Read more »
Jesus, Debbie–was your rant designed to make me want to throw up in my mouth? Cashiered officers going anti-war rather than accept responsibility for their fuckups (i.e., Karpinski)? Wow, color me impressed!
And yet I still don’t see you rushing to defend Major Cook’s stand. Telling, that is.
It’s not telling at all. If you haven’t noticed, I haven’t been rushing in to defend much of anyone lately, and besides that, I’m not part of the antiwar movement anymore either, in case you didn’t know.
I’m sure that anyone who needs defending can do a better job of defending themselves or their own stand than what I could do. I do find this particular case to be interesting and I’ll be watching to see what develops. Actually I have a very — I hesitate to say “pro-war” because I know some of you all don’t like it here, but I don’t know any other way of describing him – a very pro-war, right-leaning libertarian type, friend (yes, I have diverse friends, some of them “pro-war”) and I recall he was sending me some emails earlier on when this question was first raised in news reports about Obama’s birth certificate. I’ll have to email him to tell him about this, if he doesn’t already know; I’m sure he’ll be interested (though I doubt he would support his stand).
The case is somewhat similar, in some respects, to the case a few years ago of a soldier who, on principle, refused to wear the United Nations patch on his US Army uniform, and was court martialed for it. His stand also was based on the US Constitution.
Re. Karpinski, I don’t actually know anything about her or even what she spoke about. I don’t even know as that she was “antiwar” per se (guessing not, actually). Of all those I made reference to, she was the only one whose stand was subsequent to disciplinary action.
Sorry if I, uh, made you sick… Please, fix yourself a hot cup of chamomile tea to calm your stomach down, do some deep breathing and meditative exercises, and have a good night’s sleep. 🙂