Soltz: Surge is a failure

| July 1, 2009

John Soltz, who sheepishly admits that he didn’t fight any Chinese in Iraq, is still clinging to the old MoveOn line that the surge is a failure. He’s written it twice in as many days this week and does it again on MSNBC, where he’s apparently living in a broom closet these days. Soltz comes in at about 4:30 in to this video;

The first time he wrote it was at HuffPo;

Now we see that, indeed, the surge meant nothing without political progress.

Then he wrote it again yesterday to throw water on the Iraqi’s Sovereignty Day celebration;

And so, if the U.S. pulls back, there’s a powder keg ready to explode, with an ill-equipped Iraqi military left to try to hold things together. In fact, we’ve already seen violence ramp up in Iraq, as surge troops have left and others began their pull back from cities.

So, Soltz’ solution is a Vietnam-style withdrawal from Iraq – as violence increases, the pace of withdrawal should increase as well.

So President Obama needs to make it clear—if they won’t settle their differences, we won’t be around to save them, because we’ll speed up our departure. Most importantly, he must make good on the promise if it comes to that.

Failure at any price. We promised the South Vietnamese that we’d defend them if the North invaded, then we stood by with our hands in our pockets and watched T55 tanks roll into Saigon. Soltz would love nothing more than to hang a picture of the last chopper leaving the Green Zone behind his desk in his MSNBC broom closet.

Although, it would seem on the surface that the surge may be proven a failure if violence increases, I submit that it’s the Democrat policy of the last five years that’s failed. President Bush warned that setting an arbitrary withdrawal date would result in increased violence – that seems more likely the cause than the surge, doesn’t it?

In fact, the reason the surge worked to bring peace to Iraq is because when the insurgents expected Democrats to force a withdrawal from Iraq in 2006/7, President Bush instead increased the US presence there, proving that he was dedicated to seeing the war through during his term.

Threatening to increase the pace of withdrawal isn’t the way to quell violence. Showing resolve is what wins in the Middle East, not showing our collective ass. But Soltz and MoveOn and the Democrats are more enamored with the idea of calling Iraq a failure than making the world a better place.

As long as Democrats are frightened of dealing with the real enemy in the region, and instead prefer to pick on pockets of democracy, we won’t have any progress in the terror war or in the advancement of liberty and freedom.

One question I’d ask Soltz; Why are you so sure the Iraqis will fail? Because they’re brown people?

Category: Antiwar crowd, Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Foreign Policy, Terror War

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TSO

Soltz has staked the modicum of credibility he has remaining on his belief we will lose and that Iraq will go up in flames, and now he’s actively rooting for it.

My favorite thing about yesterday’s article is it is on a website which bills itself as “the optimist’s daily brief” even as he predicts death and destruction.

BohicaTwentyTwo

Sounds like he is wanting Iraq to fail.

Grim at Blackfive has a pragmatic outlook on things.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/out-of-the-cities.html

I have to agree. Things are going to get worse, possibly much worse, before they get better.

Smokey Behr

No matter how many times he repeats the lie, it isn’t going to become the truth. The surge worked. It’s STILL working. And we’re NOT pulling out Iraq, we’re pulling out of the metro areas to the outskirts of town, and we’ll still be there when the Iraqis call for backup.

Why is anyone still watching MSNBC, unless they’re transfixed on it as if it was literally (as opposed to figuratively, which is the reality) a train wreck.

OldTrooper

Jonn, for the love of all that is Holy; please, please don’t put anymore of this idiots babbling up! I only have a limited amount of IQ points I can afford to lose by listening to this doorknob. I suggest a special corner on the site with a picture of a short bus and his mug in the window. When anyone clicks on it, it takes them to a special section called the John Soltz Moronathon. That way, when we feel the need to have a moment of self abuse, we can go there to take care of it without actual physical torture of ourselves. It could be billed as a public service and a safety concern all in one.

UpNorth

Great idea, OldTrooper. Or, maybe a picture of an outhouse, with this dickwad’s picture on the door? Seems a more fitting room for a “moment of self-abuse”. And I’m sure it might qualify as community service, you know, an hour or two at the Soltz Shitter eliminates one day from someone’s community service requirement?

OldTrooper

Lol!!! Great idea UN! That way the lefties could go in there to relieve pressure on their brains?

ECM

I’m curious: when, exactly, is the cut-off date for when we can, finally, point to Iraq as a success? Is there one? Or does the left get to go on for all eternity e.g. in the year 2233, when Iraq falls due to the machinations of the bug people from Omicron VI, is it still going to be Bush’s/Republicans’ fault?

Fred

Everything else aside, I would have to say that Iran is not THE ENEMY in the Middle East. I will even go on a limb and say that Iran is not the number one creator of chaos and destruction in Iraq.

UpNorth

Who would be THE enemy then, Fred? Just curious as to your take on who the enemy really is? I doubt that Chad, or Honduras is exporting the enhanced penetrators that are used in Iraq. Or training AL Sadr’s militia, or kidnapping American soldiers and murdering them.

Fred

Well UpNorth, I would have to say that Saudi Arabia is the REAL ENEMY vice Iran. Not saying the current regime in Iran is a friend of the United States, but the Saudis are the ones we should be really focused on.

GI JANE

Newsflash, Fred:

Terrorists are funded, trained, supported, and bred throughout tht Middle East. I agree that Saudi Arabia is not our friend, but the Taliban and Al Qaeda were concentrated in Afghanistan and the WMD-weilding, terrorist-supporting megalomaniac in Baghdad had to be dealt with. I would have leveled several ME countries on 12 September 2001. But I’m a former Soldier, not a diplomat.

GI JANE

The Left loves to tout people like Soltz as some kind of hero bucking the system, when in reality, there’s no honor or bravery in behaving like a traitorous malcontent. He ought to be ashamed of himself, but ‘useful idiots’ never have the decency.

UpNorth

Fred, I agree, Saudi Arabia is not a friend, but GI Jane covered SA, AQ and the Taliban in post #11 very well. Iran is the enemy who is currently supplying AQ, various militias and the Taliban with enhanced penetrators, training terrorists and, as has been pointed out by numerous people, murdering American soldiers. So, at least to me, that would make them the immediate enemy.

Debbie Clark

Grims’s view on Blackfive, posted by BohicaTwentyTwo (#2) seems very grounded. MSNBC should have had him on instead of Jon Solz.

Re. some of the other comments, I don’t see any evidence that GI Jane has educated herself regarding what led to the invasion of Iraq, but I will let her off the hook based on her acknowledgement that she is a former soldier, not a diplomat…though that belies the claim by some that the soldiers are the last to want to go to war. However, we could let her off the hook for that one based on her lower testosterone levels, which is no fault of her own…

The reality is that the reasons for the invasion of Iraq were none of the reasons given and the result was that it diverted attention from Osama bin Laden and Afghanistan. Actually, I do agree with GI Jane insofar as that I don’t consider any of them over there to be our friends. However, my view after 9/11 was to go in, get the terrorists, and get the hell out…more of a focused police-type action, supported by Special Forces as necessary, not the kind of military action that it was and is, and even that was botched by the diversion of military attention to Iraq. (Of course, I am a former cop as well as former soldier, and also very diplomatic.. 🙂 )

Fred

Well guys, I’d still have to say the Saudis should be the immediate enemy. The Taliban and AQ were largely based in the Afg-Pak region on 9/11, but they are both creations of the Saudi religious establishment and almost certainly continue to receive lots of support from Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, AQ’s ranks are made up of a vastly disproportunate number of Saudis from what data I have been able to find, and 15 of the 9/11 Hijackers were Saudis. Sure Iran has been involved in various terrorist training and attacks on US troops in Iraq, but I would be inclined to say the Saudis have been responsible for even more terrorist attacks on US troops as well as most of the spectacular suicide attacks on Iraqi civilians. The Saudis have also been known to dab into a little terrorist training of their own. In fact, the Saudis are pretty much guilty of everything that Iran is rightfully accused of. All that aside, I think the Saudi religious establishment is what should clearly make the Saudis Enemy Number 1, especially given that the Saudis are allowed to fund and build mosques in the United States. I mean, I highly doubt that Carlos Bledsoe was a product of the Iranian religious establishment.

Debbie Clark

Well, Fred, you’re probably right.