San Bernadino shooting

| December 2, 2015

I don’t know what I can write about it because no one seems to know much about it. I know that the usual suspects are politicizing it. Like presidential hopeful Martin O’Malley;

It seems to me that no members of the NRA have been involved in any of these “mass” shootings. We’re not even sure how many shooters there were, or if they’ve even left the area. I know my black SUV hasn’t left my garage today. I immediately counted all of my guns to make sure none of them flew to California today. None had. Shepard Smith keeps telling us that the shooting happened within two miles of the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic.

I’m serious – California is serious. I think we need to make criminals serious about gun control.

The president has added his helpful thoughts; the government needs to work to “curb shootings”. Thanks, Mister President.

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2/17 Air Cav

CAIR, apparently, is the go-to source for information on the murderous Muslims. Unfortunately, that org is at a loss to explain why the Muslim couple, who were said to be “living the American dream” decided to engage in tag-team terrorism. Farook recently opted to grow his beard out, after his return from Saudi Arabia. He is described as a devout Muslim who was polite and quiet. Malik was the mother of a 6-month old. And all of this points to what? The NRA and soft gun laws, according to the progressive/marxist/commie bastards. Makes sense, especially considering that the murderous Muslims failed to register their homemade bombs. There is a discernible pattern, says oBaMa. Yeah, I see it too. It starts with religion.

John "Faker 6" Giduck

All this muslim active shooter stuff happening and I’m here sitting indian style in my 8XL aquaman underoos on the floor eating a box of powdered donuts with a diet Pepsi and waiting for my phone to ring from one of the networks.

Maybe it’s time to head back to the mens room at the truck stop where people appreciate me and show me love by rubbing the back of my toupee.

sincerely

John “Faker 6” Giduck

Ex-PH2

You got donuts and you didn’t offer me any? You jerk!

Instinct

You REALLY don’t want them after he’s touched them.

Let’s just say that his hands have been places they shouldn’t go.

Richard

So what do we know? The cops know the most – they have interviewed people and started to organize that evidence, they know what their officers saw and did, they have the car and other evidence. On the other hand, they have a several crime scenes and they may have to work with their prosecutors and state and federal “oversight”. From the pictures I saw, most SBPD officers and many officers from the surrounding area will spend a lot of today writing reports. So they know the most but right now most of what they know is not organized. The SBPD cops and sheriff’s office have responded to some press questions but they didn’t tell the press everything so the press knows less than the cops. The press is organizing their facts and they didn’t tell us everything they have heard so we know less than the press. In the end, we don’t know much and, hard as it is, I plan to wait for more information before making plans or selecting a plan of action. While processing this, I developed some questions: If this guy had a verbal fight with his boss (that is, if this was “workplace violence”) then why was he so ready to come back all gunned up? This isn’t some pissed off employee who went home, grabbed his 870, drove back and started shooting. It takes more than a few minutes to make pipe bombs and rigging one to a RC car takes more time. I think that the “fight at work” motive doesn’t hold water. I have a timing issue. I have spent time in LA and you don’t go fast in that city. The shooting started at about 11. SB to Redlands and back is about 5-6 miles but that is not a 5 minute drive – call it half an hour plus the time to load up. When did he get mad and leave and how long before he came back? Did he drive home, convince his wife to go and kill a bunch of people, load up and drive back or… Read more »

Hondo

Action directed and conducted by Da’esh? Maybe not.

Action inspired by them? Absolutely. As Reddevil indicates below, there’s a damn good chance these these were “freelancers for Da’esh”. And I wouldn’t discount totally the possibility that the wife was a Da’esh/al Qaeda/other radical terrorist organization operative using a “spouse of convenience” for ease of entry to the US and cover.

2/17 Air Cav

Doesn’t pass the ISIS sniff test? Does it pass the Muslim terrorism sniff test? Ruling out ISIS membership is neither here nor there. The whole talking point of ISIS, ISIS, and ISIS as the threat is foolish. Was there Muslim terrorism before ISIS? ISIS is the shiny, glittering ball that is the focus of media coverage. Destroy ISIS and Muslim terrorism subsides or ends, goes the mistaken line of thinking. Really? Really?

Richard

I’m thinking “inspired” like the Boston Marathon bombing. Family members. Loyal to each other and the cause. Go down in a blaze of glory. All of that.

2/17, you may be prepared to kill everyone who prays in a mosque because they are guilty by association. I think that ISIS needs to go because they are evil and because they would attack us but not because they are Muslim. Maybe I will change my mind later but I’m not there yet. Mean looks and big talk I can ignore. Plans I can deter. Attacks require a response.

2/17 Air Cav

“2/17, you may be prepared to kill everyone who prays in a mosque because they are guilty by association.” That sounds like a larsism. I have no desire to kill anyone who prays in a mosque and you will not find that I have advocated that or anything remotely akin to that. Of course, as a matter of logic, if all Muslims are dead, there can be no Muslim terrorism, but that is not advocacy–except to Lars. What is CAIR’s plan for rooting out terrorism and terrorist sympathizers among its members? What is the plan of the clown in the White House or those hope to replace him? Political correctness kills–repeatedly.

2/17 Air Cav

The Muslim terrorists prepared for this attack well in advance of it. It wasn’t spontaneous. It wasn’t workplace violence committed by some knucklehead who was passed over for transfer or promotion. And you can bet that, in that particulat field, there was no religious discrimination that put the Muslim bastard over the edge. There were boms constructed, weapons gathered, body protection acquired, and the site chosen was a planned gathering of employees in a confined area. Still, we will hear how the Muslim terrorist bastard was a good father, a solid employee, a pillar of the community who just snapped. And all of that will be absolute bullshit. This was a deliberate, planned attack against innocent people which, by the way, ISIS quickly celebrated.

Reddevil

ISIS and al Qaeda are hybrid organizations- they do have a very organized and structured core with a bureaucracy and actual military units, but the farther you go from that core the less structured they are.

many analysts refer to them as a franchise- there are organizations all over the world that use the ISIS or AQ name and are ‘approved’ by the central authority but act autonomously.

On the very outer edge are the sympathizes that these organizations seek to radicalize and spur into action. Go look up ‘Inspire’ magazine. The concept is to get Muslims who are already in the U.S. Or other Western countries to carry out numerous, relatively small, seemingly random attacks that simply can’t be predicted but will cause us to try to defend everything all the time.

We call these ‘lone wolves’, but it is really more than that. The Boston Marathon Bomber is a great example. The older brother was dissatisfied with life in the U.S. (Mainly because he was a giant douchebag) travelled back home, got trained and radicalized,mand convinced his little brother to do the same. The idea to attack the marathon was all theirs’. No cereal authority told them to pick that target.

This guy went to Saudi and came home with a wife, who participated in the attack with him. He is exactly what both AQ and ISIS are trying to do.

Farouk may or may not have considered himself to be part of any terrorist group. That doesn’t matter, because both of these groups and many more are actively trying to persuade people all,over the world to do just what he did.

This is what I see as a greater threat than the mujaheddin mixed in with Syrian refugees. The muj will not know how to act, won’t be able to operate openly, and will not have a good network. Farook was able to take his time, pick a target, openly and legally buy his guns, and move freely as he prepared.

Old Trooper

Great analysis.

GDContractor

In regards to “inspired”, the Muslim guy who beheaded the woman in an Oklahoma meat packing plant comes to mind. How many more would he have decapitated or stabbed? Maybe some, maybe none. A private citizen with a legal weapon put an end to his terror spree almost immediately. I am pretty confident that fact was entered into their database.

Reddevil

‘Central authority’. Cereal authorities compel you to eat Lucky Charms in your pajamas while binge watching The Wire.

Ex-PH2

Thank you for the early morning gigglesnort, Reddevil.

Richard

Battle Creek Michigan, home to both Post and Kellogg, the real cereal authorities.

Ex-PH2

This morning, it is being referred to as workplace violence. Used to be called ‘going postal’.

No, when there is that much preparation involved and the baby is dropped off with relatives, it is terrorism. That is the reality of it.

LIRight

As we are all aware….Nidal Hasan was investigated and determined to be workplace violence at Ft. Hood even though investigators found out that Hasan yelled Allahu akbar.

I’d be willing to bet that after downloading the information from the Go-Pro’s (worn by these terrorists) they’ll find an Allahu akbar or two.

HMCS (FMF) ret.

I’ll bet that they were active on social media… and they weren’t looking up recipes for meatloaf or baked chicken.

Reddevil

There is absolutely no doubt that Hassan was radicalized and acted in sympathy with AQ- he has said so himself and continues to do so from jail.

BTW, he should have been shot by the GCMCA after being found guilty. This may seem odd to those who read my stance on capital punishment- I’m against it for civilians but I think it is morally justified for military personnel in time of war, especially for commissioned officers.

Hondo

I have to disagree. A military firing squad is a dignified way to die. A traitor during wartime does not deserve that courtesy.

Instead of a dignified end in front of a firing squad, Hassan the Turncoat should have been hanged like a common criminal.

Unfortunately, we don’t do that any more. We now use a needle instead.

Hondo

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/03/2-suspects-killed-shootout-san-bernardino-massacre-14-killed/

“Workplace violence” my ass. This was a terrorist operation. Only question in my mind now is whether the connection to some foreign terrorist organization was direct or indirect (e.g., inspired but not directed by).

L. Taylor

None have taken credit for it so far. So it looks like they were inspired by militant calls to attack the US.

However, it appears one of the suspects worked at the location.

It appears something set him off at the party and he returned with his wife and attacked.

I still think this was not their original intended target.

I think they were radicalized and had been planning an attack somewhere and this guy, in a fit of rage, decided to target his coworkers.

GDContractor

Yeah, because planning to ambush your work group’s annual holiday party would not make any sense. Genius.

L. Taylor

The timeline for the day does not make sense.

2/17 Air Cav

STFU, Lars. Just STFU.

Instinct

Hey, Lars is an expert on all thing!

In fact, he’s finishing up the investigation report right now. He doesn’t even need to wait for the actual investigators to do their job before he comes to his decision. Thus is the intelligence of Lars!!

GDContractor

Was the shooter a Libertarian?

Sparks

By the way Lars, who did shoot JFK?

Hondo

Geez, Taylor – did you even bother to look at the article? Here’s a quote:

However, other investigators doubted the alleged dispute had taken place or whether the shooting could solely be chalked up to a workplace dispute due to the apparent planning behind the attack as well as the heavy weaponry used.

Also, apparently 3 bombs of some description were left behind at the facility. Bombs aren’t exactly something you go home and grab. They have to be built ahead of time.

Now, go home and get your shine box.

Ex-PH2

I think he got fired and this was the result.

David

picked a hell of a way to try and get his job back.

Stacy0311

CNN is reporting that they wore “assault-style clothing”
Perhaps we need to ban cargo pants?
Nobody needs high capacity pants.
Except maybe the DRC

Ex-PH2

All my pants are high capacity. I refuse to wear skinny jeans.

Ex-PH2

Wait a minute! Isn’t ‘assault-style’ clothing sweatpants, a hoody, and a ski mask?

Instinct

It’s all so confusing to me!!!

NECCSEABEECPO

You know we are not talking about something. The Police did an outstanding job with all the equipment and every thing they had. The LordObama is going to restrict if not take all the tactical gear away like the armored Vehicle’s and he doesn’t want all the cops being all geared up.

I have yet to here anything about the Tennessee shooting’s and we will never see that report why? No one is talking about that but if you ask me these look close to being the same. We don’t want to talk about service members being killed but when it happens in the middle of a gun free city and it’s civilians by the way city employees (Target). Now it’s time to take all the guns and Gear away. I know every one here knows this.

Airsoft watch out their coming for your gear.

Ex-PH2

Okay, but what if you’re not a city employee? No guns, no gear.

I’ll just go make cookies and wait to see what happens. This is turning into a full feature cartoon. If that 6×6 plank in the White House would just stop sticking his oar into things, it would be less annoying.

Lars The All-Knowing

There should have never been a holiday party in a government workplace. This is an impermissible establishment of religion.

Fucking moron crusader theocrats.

If you disagree with me you’re wrong.

GDContractor

I heard Achmed got all butthurt because they refused to accommodate his wife’s peanut allergy.

USMCMSgtRet

Either that, or there was no halal prepared food being offered.

A Proud Infidel®™

Maybe they were “offended” because they DARED to have pork dishes on the buffet?

LIRight

Looks like the husband and wife were treated to a little 5.56mm halal law enforcement.

GDContractor

Speaking of which. I wonder what Lars the All-Knowing thinks about Halal MREs, with crescent moon labeling goodness, being purchased, inventoried, and distributed by the US Army? I don’t recall seeing any “Christian” MREs with Templar cross labels on them. Flying Spaghetti Monster MREs might be a winning marketing ploy…

Ex-PH2

The military also purchases and distributes Kosher MREs.

LIRight

I guess they don’t use the term, “hog heaven!” lol

The Other Whitey

Don’t you know that it’s racist to make Lars defend his double standard?

L. Taylor

WTF?

How the hell is this so confusing to you?

It is like you guys are completely full of shit when you say you respect the constitution.

Halal meals is religious accommodation. Just like having Chaplains is a religious accommodation.

I have little issue with it.

Now if some commander were to say; for now on my tops are only going to eat Halal MREs then I would have a fucking problem with it.

Dipshits.

L. Taylor

“Troops” not “tops”.

2/17 Air Cav

STFU, Lars.

Hondo

He was very obviously referring to the use of the Islamic Crescent symbol on the halal meals, dipstick.

Geez. Are you really that thick, or was that a deliberate side-step?

So tell us: why is that permissible? Why not just use the term “halal” on the package instead?

If that use is permissible, then why isn’t the use of other religions’ symbols in other contexts OK?

L. Taylor

Unconstitutional;

Public teacher leading a class in prayer.

Religious accommodation:

Students are allowed to pray on their own in class.

Unconstitutional;

Teacher forbids students from praying to themselves during class time.

Constitutional;

Teacher forbids students from praying OUT LOUD during class time.

Accommodation;

students establish a prayer group and request the use of a room for the purpose and recognition as a student group. Request a volunteer teacher advisor.

Unconstitutional;

Public teacher establishes prayer group, starts encouraging students to join.

Stop acting like there is one blanket all or nothing rule. It is not that complicated. There is some grey area at the seems that need to be occasionally worked out in courts but most of the time the issue is cut and dry and someone is clearly violating the constitution.

Using “Crusader” and christian symbolism as a unit mascot or unit motto IS A CLEAR CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION.

Instinct

Hey Lars, how is any of it unconstitutional? There is no clause in the constitution that says separation of church and state.

What it does say is that it “… prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion,”

So, preventing a teacher from leading a class in prayer, is actually unconstitutional especially if the students ASKED or joined that prayer of their own accord.

Now GFY

L. Taylor

The 1st Amendment. Dipshit.

The Other Whitey

Try reading it before you invoke it, dipshit.

L. Taylor

I read it fuckwad. And Madison, who wrote it, uses the term “separation” to explain his intent in his writing.

The supreme court also read it and THEY FUCKING USED THE TERM “SEPARATION” TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANT.

2/17 Air Cav

Just STFU, Lars. Your stupid is showing again.

Hondo

Please cite where Madison ever wrote that, Taylor. The one phrase I’m familiar with along those lines – “wall of separation of Church and State” – was penned by Jefferson, not Madison. And it was penned over a decade AFTER the Bill of Rights was adopted.

GDContractor

He won’t cite Madison’s writings because he knows they were written 12 years later and are irrelevant to his point. Madison did use the word separation however it is not in the context that Lars wishes it was. If you want to get a good look at the separation of church and state as it existed back then, research the circumstances of Thomas Paine’s death and burial. It is an interesting, if sad, story.

A Proud Infidel®™

WHOA, Pinky! Use logic and facts instead of flinging your dirty diapers while you bawl at the top of your lungs!

HMCS (FMF) ret.

AMEN!

2/17 Air Cav

Instinct. The genius doesn’t recognize the difference between the Constitution and constitutional law, the latter a construction of lawyers who themselves have no explicit constitutional power to declare laws constitutional or unconstitutional and whose decisions are, from time to time, upended by subsequent groups of lawyers sitting (or is that shitting?) on the court. And that is why many of our nation’s golden citizens recall prayer being conducted in the country’s public schools. And you know what? The 1st Amendment existed then, too.

Instinct

Lars the Infallible doesn’t recognize the difference between reality and his bed wetting fantasies.

HMCS (FMF) ret.

And the terms REDSKINS and FIGHT SIOUX are “constitutional violations”? No, people like you, who get bent out of shape every time the wind blows in a different direction, have been and continues to scream at organizations that are “insensitive”. Show me one instance where the courts came in and forces a group to change their name or mascot? It’s been “pressure” in just about all of those instances from people like Mikey that pushed the issue.

A Proud Infidel®™

Hell, look at the Florida State university mascot, the Seminoles. The PC SJW’s have sniveled and bawled for years about that, but nobody who’s somebody in Florida really cares because they have the approval of the Seminole tribe themselves to use the name.

L. Taylor

“Holiday” Party is secular.

Humans celebrated winter solstice for thousands of years before Christians claimed Jesus was born during it.

2/17 Air Cav

Please Lars, STFU. See? I can be polite.

L. Taylor

Really?

Someone uses my name to create a post ridiculing me and then some hive mind fucks bandwagon onto the thread. When I respond you say “STFU, Lars”

For people who do not want me participation on this board, do not want to “pay attention” to me, and do not want to hear anything I have to say you fucks sure as shit spend a lot of time focusing on me even when I am not around.

Instinct

Well, we keep wishing you would keep your promise to go away but, since you are a lying sack of shit, you never do.

L. Taylor

I am a liar?

You think the 2nd amendment protects individual gun ownership even though the constitution never uses the term “individual”.

But you think the constitution does not provide for the separation of church and state because the word “separation” is not used.

Despite the fact that Madison explains what he meant and used the term “separation” in doing so in his writings.

Seems like you are the liar. You interpret the constitution to suit your own personal preferences and willfully ignore anything that does not.

You are a no integrity piece of shit.

Hondo

Actually, it does specify an individual’s right to own firearms. What part of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” is unclear? (Emphasis added for Taylor’s benefit, since he often misses the obvious.)

And don’t even bring up the militia. The militia – both prior to the adoption of the Constitution and now – was effectively defined as consisting of all able-bodied male citizens between specified age limits.

2/17 Air Cav

Lars displayed his ignorance of the 1st A. so he is moving on to the 2nd A. Lars, will you STFU–ever?

Hondo

He will eventually, 2/17 Air Cav – as will all of us. However, whether he will do before Charon the Boatman comes for him is an open question.

NotBuyingIt

Lars, more than once, you’ve referenced Madison’s writings to support your view on what the founders meant regarding the establishment clause. To me it’s unpersuasive and here’s why:

Madison, even if he was the primary author, did not enact the Bill of Rights. There were 54 other individuals and 14 states who voted on, and, as bodies politic, approved and ratified those first ten amendments AS WRITTEN. One man’s interpretation as to the meaning of the First Amendment – even if it is Madison – is not conclusive. I’m sure other delegates wanted different wording to the First Amendment, but when they voted, they accepted the First Amendment – as written – as a compromise they could accept.

So, without evidence that all delegates and all of the 14 ratifying states intended the First Amendment to mean something other than what it explicitly says, we should just assume the enacting authorities meant exactly what the First Amendment says. If enough citizens don’t like it, then it can be amended. There’s a process in place for that.

Hondo

Madison essentially cribbed much of the US Bill of Rights from the Virginia Declaration of Rights authored by George Mason. That document preceded the Bill of Rights by close to 15 years.

Madison reworded portions, but most concepts in the Bill of Rights were first expressed by George Mason.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/virginia_declaration_of_rights.html

Jefferson also cribbed heavily from the document in composing the Declaration of Independence.

The lack of a Bill of Rights is the primary reason that George Mason DID NOT place his signature on the US Constitution. However, he at least lived long enough to see that error rectified in the Bill of Rights.

NotBuyingIt

I knew that at one time, but had forgotten it. Thank you for reminding me Hondo.

That being the case, maybe I should’ve referred to Madison as the primary “drafter” rather than the primary “author.”

Instinct

Because I actually READ what was written, Lars, instead of pretending shit is in there that really isn’t, like you do.

Fact is Lars, you are a 20 pounds of bullshit in a 15 pound sack. I’ve heard you say that you have done damn near everything except space shuttle door gunner and yet you still can’t get your facts straight on simple things.

Here is a lie – Commissar says that he is leaving and never coming back! Then he comes back.

Joe Williams

Lars because the majority of posters do not agree with you is not a hive mind. This means are either wrong or a very minority. Third choice, you just wrong.

Ex-PH2

OH, dear GOD! It would be REAL nice if the trout-sniffing carp actually knew what in the blue-eyed world he was talking about.

Christians do NOT claim Jesus was born on December 25. That is NOT a Christian holiday. It is the same seasonal celebration as the Juhl in Europe. Jesus was born in spring or early summer in Bethlehem. That has long since been an established historical time.

Christmas is on December 25th for a REAL reason. The bishops of the Roman church, which replaced pagan temple celebrations, replaced the Saturnalia rites – the end of autumn and the time of the winter solstice – with the Christmas rites. Anyone who knows even the slightest thing about ancient religions knows that the winter solstice was the end of the year. The northern European tribes like the Gauls and Germanians burned the yule log to welcome the new year, and put holly around the door jamb to keep the frost giants at bay.

You don’t know your butt from a hole in the ground about a lot of things, carp, you crapspouting troutsniffer, and THIS is only one of those things.

CHRISTMAS IS THE REPLACEMENT OF PAGAN WINTER CEREMONIES AND FESTIVALS.

Geez, you are so stoopid, you don’t even know you’re alive.

NotBuyingIt

I thought the word “Holiday” is derived from the Old English word for “Holy Day.”

Ex-PH2

That’s correct. It is from Middle English, which stems from Old English.

hāligdæg, from hālig holy + dæg day
First Known Use: before 12th century

L. Taylor

Yep. I was wrong. It is not secular.

Well shit. So much for the war on Christmas.

2/17 Air Cav

Yes, we all know you were wrong. The short list is what you are right about. Off hand, I can’t think of a thing, other than your saying that you were wrong. So, Lars, you pest, do not give yourself credit for admitting that you were wrong. No one else is and you almost always are. Oh, and STFU.

The Other Whitey

Hey Lars, once again you’re flapping your cock holster without basic knowledge of your subject. We don’t claim that Christ was born on December 25th. December 25th is the day upon which we celebrate His birth. There’s a difference, though it’s clearly lost on you.

There are multiple reasons why most of Christianity celebrates it on December 25th (and only one reason why Russians celebrate it on New Year’s Day: Stalin). It’s also true that some of the celebratory traditions are borrowed/appropriated from older indigenous European religions. That doesn’t change what we’re celebrating or why.

Congratulations, you’re still a fucking idiot.

A Proud Infidel®™

LARS, given your imbecility and inability to comprehend facts and logic i see a future for you as a Government bureaucrat. THERE’S somewhere you can draw a paycheck and almost never have to worry about getting fired due to incompetence! 😀

A Proud Infidel®™

HEY LARS, said party was held in a facility owned by a non-profit entity, a privately owned facility, YOU LOSE YET AGAIN!! 😀 😀 😀 😀

MERRY CHRISTMAS o dirty-diapered meathead!! 😀

L. Taylor

I am not the one that brought up the “Holiday party” issue you fucking dipshit.

Instinct

No, you just showed your ass, again, when talking about it.

Now GFY

ms

Rand Paul is introducing a bill to stop immigration from the countries who are sending these terrorists. finally someone is doing the right thing.

L. Taylor

The shooter was an American and there is never going to be a bill that says Americans cannot bring their wives to the US.

Hondo

Really, Taylor? Might want to look at this:

http://www.youradwokat.com/seo-new/documetns/news/1/Applying-for-a-Waiver-of-the-10-year-bar-for-Unlawful%20Presence.pdf

But the lawyer who wrote that must be wrong. Taylor the Infallible says that there never will be such a law as the man describes.

Ex-PH2

Scores to date:

Hondo: many

Carp: zero

Hondo

The “score” here is irrelevant.

Accuracy and factual correctness, on the other hand, are not. And it’s never a good idea to allow BS to masquerade as truth without challenge.

Ex-PH2

No argument from me on that, even though we disagree on those missing 18 minutes on the Watergate tapes, and will probably disagree for eternity on that subject.

Hondo

Perhaps we can meet jointly with Madam Cleo and she could put us both in touch with Rosmary’s and Dick’s ghosts. That way we could get the real story direct from them. (smile)

2/17 Air Cav

“The shooter was an American….” So, that was only one shooter? I guess that would be the Muslim male and the woman was just along for the ride. How does he know that? He is Lars, the omnipotent, omniscient and, unfortunately for us, the omnipresent.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Wrong:

Marriage does not trump US immigration law.

Therefore if a USPERS HVE goes to Saudi to pick up a terrorist wife and returns with a said terrorist wife. That HVE can be thrown in jail for the act and the terrorist wife can be deported.

Or, they can be shot dead in the street.

Either way Lars, you are so far from well informed on such issues, you remind guys like me, with great pride and satifaction, we provide you with a right to say dumb stuff all day long!

sj

owwwww. That’s going to sting. He’ll retreat to his safe space at Berkley.

Ex-PH2

Master Chief, that is going to leave a massive bruise on the carp’s bloated ego.

A Proud Infidel®™

ATTENTION LARS-PINKY TAYLOR.

The name of this milblog is “This Ain’t Hell but You Can See it from Here”, not “TO CATCH A DUMBSHIT”!!! YOU stumbled in here all by yourself babbling your bullshit, thus you’ve brought it all on yourself, OK, KID? 😀

2/17 Air Cav

The AG, Loretta (Coal Miner’s Daughter) Lynch issued a statement regarding the San Bernadino terrorist attack, saying absolutely nothing. When she took the podium, she said good morning to whatever group she was addressing, received no response, and then repeated the greeting and the audience dutifully responded with a loud “Good morning!” Yeah, that was appropriate as a way of speaking to the terrorist attack, about which she said very, very little except mentioning that there is no place for violence in this country. (Yawn.) Funny, just days ago, she couldn’t say fast enough that the nutjob in Colorado was a “crime against women.” This time there’s a Muslim connection so it’s time to dummy up. You know what’s a crime? Political correctness.

2/17 Air Cav

Oh, and Lars. Lars is a crime. Can’t stand that SOB.

L. Taylor

“Can’t stand that SOB.”

But you obsessively talk about me.

Seems more like infatuation than hate.

Stop fetishizing me.

2/17 Air Cav

I mean to drive you from here, Lars, since you won’t take the not-so-subtle hints and go away. So, get used to it. And STFU.

Weekend Warrior in Texas

I am still wondering if you are on Adderol.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

“Stop fetishizing me”.

That was funny and you made me waste beer!

2/17 Air Cav

I do think I hit it with Lars regarding the Occupy (Bowel) Movement. He is its last member. Occupy TAH is his flag plant, and he’s proving it by shitting all over the place, like his confederate did on a police car. Or was that Lars himself?

Instinct

I thought Lars was the turd that was dropped.

HMCS (FMF) ret.

He’s become obsessed with the TAH… look at his posts, it the typical liberal “this is how I see it and you’re all wrong” bull that we’ve heard for at least the last 20 years from the the DNC and their lackeys.

Lars – just back away from here, for your sanity, just back off. Your pontifications and postulations were funny at first, but are just tripe now. It’s one thing to come to a board and be civil and make sound arguments, but you come across as a know-it-all flaming asshole. Go enjoy your triple soy, decaf grande caramel machiatto with foam and read a good, long book… on something other than politics, economics or political talking points.

11B-Mailclerk

All of a sudden, perp #3 disappeared from the narrative.

Was there not some news reporting on someone on foot, possibly holed up in a church?

I think they missed one.

LIRight

I heard early this morning that there was a third person in custody and was being interrogated.

No other details have been released as far as I know.

sj

Hope Mr. Cheney and a water board is in play.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Ah, not likely.

Unless they picked up a third who has a related nexus.

In that case, it would be a non-custodial interview.

Many of those will happen, family members, friends and associates …

Interrogations rarely happen in the US, most perps have the sence to say, “no, I want a lawyer”.

Basically, LEO can interview all day long on pedigre info, however as soon as it turns to interrogation about a crime … It is a tough road requiring only the most skilled of practitioners. Because, the perp can stay “no” at anytime.

NECCSEABEECPO

Now it is a Hybrid Crime WTF? Why can’t we call it what it is. No now it is a Hybrid mix of Work Place Violence and Terrorism. Who cares if is Islamic or domestic it is fucking terrorism period and it just so happens that the guy was Muslim. If he had a cross on him and was white guy what would we call it? Right wing Christen Terrorism so call it what it is.

We also need to call for the release of the after action of Tennessee. We lost five brothers and NO one seems to want to bring that up or compare it to this.1400- 223 and 200 9m that sounds like work place to me.. Not.

Ex-PH2

The term ‘terrorism’ was used on the evening news tonight. I think that it’s because the FBI is involved in this. The shooters had a large stock of ammunition in their townhouse(?) as well as bomb-making materials. Per the FBI spokesman, their plan had apparently been to engage in several incidents of this.

That’s from the news. That’s all I have. But what do I know?

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

STOP:

Read me lips.

I and others have read, understand and use the terms “terror, terrorism and terrorist” in the course of our duties daily.

What is key here is the DOJ and FBI definitions of the above referenced words.

In the end as I postulated last night, this was an act of terrorism as defined.

But what do I know …

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

BREAKING NEWS:

Conversational narcissist Lars seeks ‘safe space’ at French language web site dedicated to spiritual, holistic and hormone deficient new age healing …

He posted this, but I don’t speak French:

J’ai perdu mon âge viril, il ne peut pas être trouvé et je ne m’attends pas jamais le récupérer. Je suis une petite nymphe destinée d’un être.

A Proud Infidel®™

Now if only he’ll STAY THERE!! If he decides not to, then may the Bluebird of Happiness copiously defecate in his quiche!! 😀

MrBill

He may have also written this:

Je suis béat, tailleur idiot.

Joe Williams

Ex-PH2, please translate Lar’s statements for us that do not speak or read in French. Thank You Joe

Ex-PH2

Well, basically, he says (roughly):

I’ve lost my manhood, it is gone forever and can never be recovered. I am destined to be a little fairy. I am a blissfully happy stupid suit.

Comme j’ai dit, it’s a rough translation.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Ha, very good!

sj

I was just brought back to reality, a refreshing thing after being exposed to the bullshit that emanates from Berkley. A humble gent that is very talented in the trades and is a family friend, is helping us with a reno in an attempt to sell in an Obama economy.

News was on. He had no clue about Bernadino…he was working to make a living. He won’t take welfare even though all he eats is hot dogs. He had no clue on Hillary, Trump, et al. He is working to make a living and doesn’t listen to news or talk radio. He said he voted 1 time and that was for Dear Leader. After that, he said, he won’t vote again.

This is a salt of the earth gent. How many of them are there? I think we are doomed. Sometimes I’m glad I’m 74 and won’t see what Obama has brought us.

PS: FU Taylor. And the horse you rode in on.

My, My, My

Perhaps I will get the wrath. Just out of curiosity, why would anyone acknowledge Lars, or Taylor or what have you. Just move on; dont acknowledge, respond, etc. Ignore, Ignore, Ignore, and I mean walk past it.His comments wont change. Eventually as with that kind, he move along. Humble opinion. Oh, and Fuck Farook and his wife.