Code Pink arrested at AIPAC convention
The folks at News2Share send us a link to their coverage of a Code Pink protest yesterday at a American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) convention. Five of the stank-ass hippies were arrested as a result (you’ll probably want to turn down the volume before you watch these videos);
“Its important to challenge AIPAC’s influence in Washington DC, and to show our strength in numbers today,” says Alli McCracken, CODEPINK’S National Organizer. CODEPINK and other pro-Palestine organizations are urging the US government to advocate for diplomacy with Iran and condemn Israel’s siege of the Gaza Strip.
[…]
“If you look at where we stand as a nation right now, and with all the violence that’s happening in the middle east, it’s a very scary time” [Medea] Benjamin says. “If these negotiations with Iran don’t come to fruition, that could mean a war with Iran. Unfortunately, AIPAC is adding fuel to the fire.”
Some have criticized the Pro-Palestine movement as anti-Semetic. McCracken says this is not the case. “Criticizing the government policies of another country isn’t the same as criticizing an ethnicity or a religion” McCracken says. “You cannot conflate anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.”
Funny how they don’t see Iran’s rhetoric about the destruction of Israel, or Hezbollah (Iran’s proxy in Lebanon) rocket and mortar attacks on Israel as “fuel to the fire”. And I wonder what that Iranian general was doing with Hezbollah on the Golan Heights a few weeks ago when he was killed in an Israeli airstrike. Probably trying to convince them to invest in his Amway business.
Category: Code Pink
Typical dirty hippies. Useful idiots. Glad to see Medea(not her real name) Benjamin running her cum dumpster. Too bad she’s not still rotting in that Egyptian prison. Bunch of worthless sacks of shit.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, have your local hippies spayed or neutered!
Euthanasia is considerably cheaper and the best way to cull the heard.
imho
What is with all the authoritarian personalities on this board?
A lot of “patriots” claiming to love the nation and the constitution but perfectly willing to “cull the heard” if they ever had power over the American people.
Its something to due with free speech.
A lot of us fought for it. But now we have it.
“Its something to due with free speech.
A lot of us fought for it. But now we have it.”
But yet you want to “cull the herd” and kill those that exercise speech you disagree with?
I do not think you have a fucking clue what free speech is.
Potty mouth due you work for All Points Logistics?
Sorry boss it hade to be done.
No, and I am on record on that post for calling him out for being a piece of shit. As for “potty” mouth. I always find it interesting when grown adults, even veterans who have seen combat, had the cognitive dissonance to claim some words are “bad” or “obscene.” First why is “fuck” such a bad word, but “rape”, “genocide”, “murder”, or a fucking word like “war” not considered to be bad words? It is fucking ridiculous to claim that a word is bad unless the meaning conveyed by the word is actually bad. And I can assure you there is absolutely nothing wrong with “fucking.” But the reality is words are not “bad” for any lefitimate reason. Origin of the concept comes from ancient civilization that thought some words actualy could be used to convey and actual magical “curse” on someone (hence ‘curse’ words). Words that could convey “curses’ were forbidden because of the potential social dangers of people being cursed and people being angry at people for cursing them and so on. So basically primitive people with primitive minds decided that some words ought not be said because they were “magically bad”. Eventually, though, humankind became less ignorant and following the enlightment and the realization that thinking that words had the magical power to cause ‘curses’ was a stupid fucking notion for educated people to hold the idea was largely abandoned except by illiterate superstitious morons. In fact many 14-17th century public discourse had plenty of foul language including in public periodical and newspapers. But than early industrialization began to spread and globalization began to accelerate. Monarchies and aristocracies began to tuble and the normal “social” order of classes began to disintegrate. New elite classes based on wealth (as opposed to blood) began to emerge. These new wealthy classes began siezing and reshaping power structures in the West. However, the lacked titles and crests, and banners, and all the accouterments of nobility but wanted to set themselves apart from the lower classes. So a new form of social distinctions emerged. Forms of ettiquette that was intended to distinguish… Read more »
I wish I could edit these posts. So many spelling and grammar errors. Typed too much too fast into too small a text box.
Whatever, Larsie-parsie the rudy-poo glitter-farting, scrotum-ogling Sparkle pony, we figured it’s just due to you being the libtard kool-Aid guzzling IDIOT you really are! 😈
So, when does war begin to fuck?
“So, when does war begin to fuck?”
That would be a violation of General Order #1
“It is well that war is so fucking terrible, otherwise we should grow too fucking fond of it.” – Robert E. Lee, improved by Commissar
acknowledging ‘whites’ and other typos.
So you’re only averse to words that do to certain contextual usage you think are “bad.” So that would put you into the sycophant class. Thanks for clearing that up. Please continue with your compulsive need to feel superior.
Lars ever hear the termfigure of speech? All that wall of text over a expression of fancy. In Texas they a saying that person just needs killing. Are the speech police? As long as the words do not do bodily harm. Free speech . Joe
Wow, Lars, TLDR….
yeah, I gotta find a new past time.
Lars – have you ever heard the term “a figure of speech”? Or “hyperbole”?
Let me spell it out for you: no one actually advocated that stank-ass hippies be killed. Or involuntarily sterilized. Did someone, hyperbolically, suggest that stank-ass hippies should disappear? Or shouldn’t breed? Yup.
Do you know Daniel A. Bernath, by any chance?
Acording to the MPRC you can only have one F-bomb in a pg13 movie.
Diligaf imho
Yeah, I have argued with him on these forums.
If you implication is that I am like him because I disagree with a lot of the stupid shit said on these forums…
I disagree with that too..
and I think it is stupid.
And I think ol’ windbag Lars here is a pompous ass who thinks it’s HIS board and HE gets to decide what the subject matter is.
Well, Lars, you incredible moron, it ain’t your board.
You are such a waste of energy in a sack of water.
How I am deciding what the subject matter is?
John posted the topic.
Others responded.
I responded to them.
John, and the OP were the ones that determined the subject matter.
I have little say in what gets discussed.
I think this board is largely accustomed to saying negative shit about liberals, Obama, gays, protesters, sometimes women, and any other number of groups that get denigrated by the commenters on this board and then just have other like minded commenters agree and say similar shit in a giant circle jerk of ideological reinforcement.
This board is not particularly used to having someone disagree with them. I disagree with a lot but not all of the stuff posted in comments.
You have a right to say whatever the hell you want. Someone disagreeing with you is not infringing on your right to say whatever stupid shit you said.
The only person that actually gets to decide what is said or not on this board is John, and any moderators he may have.
And he seems to dislike but tolerate my disagreement with some of the stuff on this board.
Actually most of us don’t live in a bubble, and regularly interact with left leaning people. When I was in College pretty much the whole class was fairly left leaning, and I live in freaking Houston. I have been debating nitwits like you on the Internet because I find it entertaining to run circles around your arguments for over a decade. Lefties are all the same, your arguments are all the same, and the facts still have not changed. Very rarely have actually shown someone the light, but those people NEVER work as hard as you do to stay ignorant.
No, my implication is that, like you, he has interpreted obviously hyperbolic language as a literal threat.
I am confident many of the posters on this board, if given the chance, and the institutional structures to allow it, would do some of the shit they claim they want to do.
How much vicious shit said about Jews was just hyperbole in 1934? Or Tutsis in 1993? Or Armenians in 1914?
The words themselves are absolutely hyperbole, but the sentiment behind them often is not.
Authoritarian personalities make up an estimated 30% of the US population. And that percentage is known to be much higher in the ranks of the military.
As a veteran dominated board I am certain that a great number of these posters have authoritarian personalities.
Some service-members not only love their flag and their country but they also love the power and authority it represents and will support that the execution of that power regardless of which direction they are told to face and who they are told is the enemy.
Your brainwashing is showing. The extreme right is for anarchy, and the extreme left is Communism. As the you go from right to left you give up freedom to the government in exchange for the government doing XYZ. I personally want to be left alone, but it’s people like you who make that impossible.
EVERY LAW, REGULATION, AND TAX is enforced at the point of a gun. Remember that next time your for a new law, and people on the right are against it. Then you think about who’s really for an authoritarian government.
My field is Political economy and theories of governance.
The notion that “extreme right is anarchy and extreme left is communist” is not just over-simplistic it is completely inaccurate. It would be difficult to put theories on a single left right spectrum of analysis but neither communism or anarchism could be regarded as either extreme right or extreme left. In fact anarchism is rooted in very “leftist” notions of the inherent goodness of people and communitarian social obligations. Anarchy is usually regarded as left wing but the idea of trying to place all the political ideologies and theories on a “left-right” spectrum is flawed from go. Most ideologies are a complex structure rooted in a broad spectrum of ideas from different historical and social contexts. Quad charts are step in the right direction but even they fall apart when trying to place political ideologies in spacial relationship to one another.
…and there you have it, folks. Lars thinks that a good many of us are capable of genocide, if we had the means, and thought we could get away with it.
There you go again with your brainwashing. Political economy and theory of grievances what a freaking joke.
Anarchy is not rooted in leftism. The LEFT in PRACTICE not THEORY does not believe in the goodness of people. The LEFT is all about control. Communism and Socialism(aka Commie Lite) are all about a few powerful men controlling everyone else. Anarchy is about you don’t get to tell me to do a damn thing, and I don’t get to tell you anything either. The Right is about limited government, and anarchy is such limited government it doesn’t exist. Step outside into the real world.
Communism and Socialism have both been tried for decades. The people living under those systems of government have a much lower standard of living than we have had as a Capitalistic country. However as our country has adopted more and more of the socialist programs that Socialism is all about, the standard of living gap has been decreasing. Not because they are getting better, but because we are getting WORSE.
You don’t need a text book to see these things. Your professors are wrong. What you need to do is get out in the world, read some legitimate history books, and start thinking for yourself. After the Berlin wall many many people on the Communist side even freaking warned us.
Brian, I have read all the theories you claim to know, from the original authors or from the original source documents, and most of the authors that ideologically opposed those authors and those that opposed those authors and so on. I also studied the historical context. I have read the works or studied the theories of close to a hundred political theorists, political economists, and political philosophers.
Your post is a bunch of hip pocket rhetoric, false conventional wisdom, and nonsense.
Do you think for a second I did not constantly argue with my professors?
And I have experienced the real world. A great deal of it.
Hip pocket rhetoric is to listen to the people that lived under Communism? GTFO. There’s also a HUGE difference between reading what philosophers wrote, and what actually happened. The theories you have espoused on this board have ALL failed. Not once have I seen you give any idea that wasn’t straight out of the Communist or Socialist playbook. From what I have read of your posts you have based your opinion and actions on what theoretically should happen, and you ignore the cold hard truth of what actually happens time and time again.
Also to expand on the concept of who does what because it’s right. If it is out of the goodness of one’s heart there is NO law that needs to be enacted to force one to do it. No one forces a person to give money to a homeless person, donate money to a charity, or volunteer to build houses. However under the political theories that you seem to espouse it is MANDATORY to give money to a person, it is MANDATORY to give money for causes the STATE determines should receive money, and it is MANDATORY to carry out whatever job the government deems necessary.
Tell me I’m wrong that under Communism people are much poorer. Tell me that Socialism doesn’t also mean the STATE controls massive aspects of people’s lives. Go ahead provide proof and sources where I’m wrong, and you are actually right. And HELL no I don’t think you debate much of anything from the mindset that the Government is not only not a cure all, but a DETRIMENT to actually enriching the common person. There’s a reason the USA has had a massive, and richer, middle class compared to other nations.
You tell me where your policy ideas differ from Progressives then I’ll act like you might have some grey area between your ears. Until then you’re just parroting every other view point I’ve heard leftists use since I was freaking born. I’m only 31 so it shouldn’t be that hard, right cupcake?
You are full of shit Brian. The fact that you claim my posts are “communist” just demonstrates how completely fucking clueless you are about communism.
And you are not talking to some idealistic kid. I not only have an education in political economy I actually have real world experience.
Quite a bit actually. My resume is pretty fucking solid.
You are a blowhard that anachronistically thinks we are still in the cold war. Communism is not a “thing” anymore. It is a discarded idea as are most impractical, overly idealistic, or failed theories.
THere are things we have learned from the theory, and much of it still has contemporary applications but it is not a workable theory of political economy.
Libertarianism is another discarded notion that appeals to people that have the mentality of a 16 year old sociopath. It completely ignores reality and is incapable of solving it own internal contradictions.
We learned from Communism is ABSOLUTE power of the STATE leads to the enslavement of normal people. IE the Poor and Middle Class. We also learned that Checks and Balances are necessary for freedom. That’s a concept written in our Constitution that your dumbass type absolutely hates.
Political Economics? A degree in that and $6.95 plus tax will get you some prissy-latte soy mulk-laced crap at Starbucks, but in the real world, it won’t get you much of jack shit unless you’re some CEO or politician’s kid or nephew.
BE CAEFUL of what you say ‘lil larsie-parsie the Smurf-kissing little unicorn-,usting Sparkle pony, we haven’t seen you here for a while. Just let your Mommy catch you making “Doo-doo posts” like this again, and you’ll lose your internet privileges on her computer yet again! Not only that, you won’t get your usual warm enema before bedtime either!!
This board has a reputation for viral shaming and destroying the reputation of people that piss them off. In the past, that was people who are known to have committed acts of Stolen Valor.
I do not think your “be careful”comment was intended as a threat. Because I do not think this board wants to set a precedent that they attack those that just disagree with them.
But what is your intention with respect to the warning?
I think you’re safe, Lars. I find you to be too obtuse to have a rational discussion with, but no one here wants to destroy whatever reputation you have on the Internet.
I find him acute
Obtuse, acute, blatherer.
I find him to be excessively egocentric and smug. He just shows up to feed his inflated ego by letting us know that WE are know-nothings, and that WE are so very wrong, and HE is the only one who can speak with authority about – well, just about anything.
That, and his personality is that of a faucet that won’t shut off. He’s drip. (I have to explain things when he’s around, whereas everyone else gets it.)
College does that to some people.
I see him as the smug, arrogant know-it-all type. Here he can spout his arrogance without worrying about the jocks pulling him into the Boys’ room and flushing him halfway to China once they stuff his head in the toilet!
Lars,
I am not like most of the people and Vets here. I sit back, analyze, ruminate, think about the issues before I comment, usually. So I have done it in the case with respect to you and your comments … So GFY and KMRIA!
“Good for you”
and
“Keep making real intelligent arguments!”
The syntax of KMRIA is a little awkward but I really appreciate the support.
Yeah Larsie-poo, here you get to run your arrogant, smug little mouth without worrying about the Jocks sticking your head in the toilet and flushing you halfway to China! Spout all you want, believe it if you choose, but reality will eat you like a hungry Pit Bull once you get out in the real world unless you get some easy Government job due to being the right person’s Son or Nephew.
Clearly Lars is going for a cushy government job with that fake ass degree of his. There’s really only 2 questions left. 1) How many times can you call him a sparkle pony(again) in 1 paragraph while being coherent? And 2) Will he be the 9th(or 8th?…I lose count) person to be accused of being you by the DRG?
If he’s the the next one, I think he’ll be number eight. AS TO our smug little Smurf-hugging sparkly creampuff of a snowflake, meh, he’s more air headed than a freshly lobotomized one-eyed 2LT on LSD!
There needs to be a place like a Correctional Custody Facility (Charlie’s Chicken Farm) to sent these nasty ass scumbags for 30 days.
So…. what kind of state would you imagine our nation would need to become for a Correctional Custody Facility to be an American institution for dealing with protestors?
Sound to me it is not the hippies we need to worry about. It is people like you.
If you think that’s bad, you should hear some of the things those precious hippies have said to me and a few of my closest friends. Meanwhile, the choice is yours to worry or not to worry. Whatever.
So it’s okay for them to loudly disagree with us and launch epithets at us, but we can’t reciprocate?
Okay for me, but not for thee?
What a hypocrite you are, you cretinous cabbage!
If you do not think people are launching epithets at me then you have not been reading many of these posts.
I was NOT referring to YOU, you conceited ape.
If you had any ability at all to read for content and context, you’d know that. But you don’t, but you are too wrapped up in your useless egocentric malestrom to see anything or anyone other than YOU.
Since it was a reply to my comment it appeared to be a response to me.
Which proves my point, lars, you conceited twit, that you think EVERYTHING is about you.
Well, it isn’t. When I called you a cretinous cabbage, which you are, that was specifically meant for you. A generalized statment ‘okay for me but not for thee’ is just that – generallized, covering many areas – and has nothing to do with you.
You are so self-centered and self-important that your smug little self says ‘only lars matters’.
In your world, I’m sure that’s true.
In the real world, it is NOT true.
But you don’t get that part because you don’t give a shit about anyone or anything except YOU.
“What a hypocrite you are, you cretinous cabbage!”
See, there is one right there.
Lars, I’m not a regular here, just an occasional visitor.
But it didn’t take me long to figure out – Don’t Piss Off Ex-PH2.
But you done did.
OC
Oh, dear me! You really ARE the possessor of a deteriorating intellect.
You object to our objections to your objections. So it’s okay for YOU to object to our objections, but not for US to object in response to your objections to our objections.
Try to learn the proper art of rebuttal, lars, you jockbrit keech. Your ‘arguments’ are weak and your ‘research’ indicates slacker train spotting. Your bum’s got a windae. Shaggit.
Amway would be bad over their with most of the population have soap allergies.
This must be about a record for time between protests and/or arrests. These hags just couldn’t stand it any longer and had to go out in public to once again prove their lunacy.
Whatever.
I’d love to throw buckets of warm, soapy water on each of them just to see if they’d either melt or turn into a gob of snot like a salted slug!
These dipshits are representative of those who gave us obama. The liberal judges will let them loose for the next progressive propaganda campaign.
so who do we blame for Bush? Obama is historically certain to be regarded as an above average president ranked between 12-18th in historical rankings.
Bush is ranked in the bottom 7 in nearly every ranking conducted.
So if we are going to be angry why are you angry at liberals for giving you an above average president, but fine with yourselves for giving us one of the shittiest presidents in history?
“….Obama is historically certain to be regarded as an above average president ….”
How do you know this? Just because you and your buddies are engaged in some sort of circle jerk does not mean that more objective people in the future will agree with you, especially after they have seen the results of this President’s actions. I am sure that, in his time, Neville Chamberlain got similar adulation.
He certainly thought well of himself, and said so.
http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/workbook/ralprs36.htm
Not sure where your ratings are from. Among my friends the rating President Obama has is the only one worse than President Carter.
except your friends are not presidential historians, political scholars, American historians, international historians, public policy experts, or any of a number of professional experts that contribute to these rankings.
You would know that how exactly?
TRANSLATION: Our friends aren’t pinkie-in-the-air Starbucks-sipping conceited, snotnosed elitist hippies and college “Perfessors’ that have never really seen life outside of college or Government jobs. 😀
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
Academicians everywhere support the use of wiki as a source document? Hold the presses! We’ve got us some breaking news here.
Seriously? That’s the best you can do?
I find it funny that the very source he cites reports that a Quinnipiac poll for best and worst presidents done on 2014 shows Obama holding the number one spot for worst president since World War 2.
First the rankings and the polls use different criteria.
The ranking reflects historical analysis of their term in office (which is why many are not filled in for Obama yet, even Bush).
The polls reflect what specific polled populations think.
So you would expect a sitting president to perform poorly on public opinion polls.
And the Quinnipac poll you quoted has him simultaneously as the 1st worse, and 4th best. So you should read the methodology of the poll before deciding its merits.
Last Washington Post poll on the subject (and I think it is safe to regard WaPo as decidedly un-conservative) ranks Obama no higher than 18th. Middle of the pack at best… he has scaled the plateau of mediocrity. Considering dead center would be 22nd, “significantly above average” is a misnomer – that is average at best.
That page is an aggregate of nearly every historical ranking published and most major polls.
It is intended to provide a broad spectrum of evidence and every academic knows that while Wiki cannot be used as a source the sources on the Wiki page for an article sure as hell can be used. All the sources for all the rankings are provided on the page.
Not to throw any gasoline on the fire or whatever, but in my AP US History class, I have a policy that goes something like this:
If you want to be the object of total derision for the next five minutes, use Wikipedia as your primary source.
Remember, Wikipedia articles are written by anyone and everyone. Sometimes it takes QUITE a while for their “editorial staff” to catch up with some of the bullshit that is placed in otherwise useful articles.
Take Wikipedia as a starting point, perhaps, for other scholarly research … but if you’re going to use it as a primary source – well, my students don’t.
Huffpo
They support Hamas, too.
No they don’t. They support a Palestinian state and the end of violence in Palestine.
HAMAS, unfortunately, was elected to represent the Gaza region which is precisely where you would need to go if you were working to support a Palestinian state.
So they were guests of the HAMAS “government” officials control Gaza.
Not the same thing as supporting HAMAS. Diplomats, state officials, corporations, NGOs, and citizens visit all kinds of places where they do not support the leadership.
Are you really an idiot, or just pretending to be an idiot?
Oh, wait, you’re one of those lefty SOB’s who actually would limit freedoms for those who do not agree with your personal philosophy.
Got it.
At no time did I advocate limiting anyone’s freedoms.
You have a perverse sense of freedom. Apparently criticizing your desire to imprison people for exercising their freedom of speech is a violation of your freedom.
How did I violate your freedom?
Freedom to be a fragile snowflake that can say stupid shit and not be criticized for it?
You are free do say all the stupid shit you want. But you are not free to not be told it is stupid.
And as anticipated, you proved my point.
Thank you for playing.
So you are simply deciding to reject reality and substitute your own?
If by that question you mean am I rejecting your twisted presentation of propaganda as “reality,” then yes, absolutely. No need to substitute my own reality for anyone else’s version. My reality simply is what it is. You don’t have a vote in that.
Larsie-parsie Taylor the Smurf-lusting little Rudy-poo Sparkle Pony-molesting candyassed snowflake, everyone has the right to be stupid, but YOU ABUSE THE PRIVILEGE to the same degree that every member of The Dutch Rudder gang does!
I am empirically not stupid by every objective measure ever administered.
In fact I am among the top 0.1% with respect to intelligence.
Common sense? Definitely upper middle quartile.
Never been into Smurfs. When I was a kid I thought Daphne from Scooby Doo was hot. But that is probably because she seemed like she would do a geek like me. Also Daria.
“Rudy-poo Sparkle Pony-molesting candyassed snowflake”
Yeah, none of that was accurate. Except the snowflake part. But don’t we all think we are at least a little special? Based on your posts you sure as fuck think you are.
“I am not sure if you were being sarcastic. Her Drill and Ceremony training would have not helped ISIS.” http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=57845
Yeah I think you’re real smart cupcake…
*I laughed at that comment for about 5 minutes when I first read it.*
REALLY, my glittery gargoyle gonad-sniffing Rudy-poo unicorn-lusting care bear-kissing rainbow-farting tinsel mouse of a candyass? Face reality, Swee’ Pea, you’re obviously little more than a snotnosed little know-it-all twentysomething living in his mommy’s basement, MAYBE a college dweeb having a ball on mommy and Daddy’s money getting liberally indoctrinated by potheaded freeze-dried Hippies that think they know jack shit. Well they don’t!
You say: “In fact I am among the top 0.1% with respect to intelligence.”
I say: “No you are not, I am intelligent. I play dumb and know the answer to every question I ask”.
That is being intelligent!
“I am empirically not stupid by every objective measure ever administered.
In fact I am among the top 0.1% with respect to intelligence.”
…and modest, too.
Sounds like Dennie-Boi…
Read it and weep. This is the Hamas Covenant. They are very plain about what they want, and it is not a Palestinian state, and it most certainly is not peace.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/palestinepalestinians/a/me080106b.htm
Their goal is genocide, and they reject in advance any peace agreement.
I guess you are replying to me.
I never defended HAMAS. I have posted repeatedly on this issue on other forums that Palestine does not diplomatically deserve a state as long as the people support HAMAS because a state with a HAMAS influenced government on the Israeli border is not something Israel can accept or be ever expected to accept.
As long as HAMAS has strong influence in Palestine the Palestinian people should not have a state.
My post was that CODE PINK does not support HAMAS. And you inexplicably interpreted that to mean I support or was defending HAMAS.
I think you have reading comprehension issue.
You don’t seem to be aware that the antics of Code Pink supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, for which the silly fools were thrown out. Then there is their silliness with respect the the Gaza Flotilla, which protested a “humanitarian crisis” that even the Organization of Islamic Confertences admitted did not exist. And you pretend their explicit and flagrant support of Hamas, which in writing says it is interested in genocide, only genocide, not peace under any circumstances, is not support of genocide.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Now, go back and finish that reading assignment I gave you.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/palestinepalestinians/a/me080106b.htm
The Hamas Covenant is the founding document of the Hamas, and is a clear statement of intent embraced by all of the progeny of the Muslim Brotherhood. Read it, and understand what you have been so foolishly supporting.
Fucking useless stankass hippie cunts.
Well said, short and to the point.
“Don’t mind me. Just watering my hippies.”
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35f8u9
Not too long ago, they had a black lawmaker from Africa on the Glenn Beck show talking about what Apartheid was and how it definitely was not what is happening in Israel.
These are people who’ve given themselves over, heart, mind and soul, to the enemy.
They adhere to the enemy. They give whatever aid and comfort that they can manage to the enemy.
And, they’ll do this for any enemy, regardless of that enemy’s ideology or desire to destroy us all, Code Pink and their filthy ilk included.
ISIS is looking for women. We could send this bunch of skanks to them, free of charge. Just drop them off at the closest part of the caliphate border and they can support those murdering thugs all they want to.
AN EXCELLENT IDEA!! 😀
+100 Cool Points to Ex-PH2, I’m jealous I didn’t think of that! Even those third world fleabags would run away from them at the first whiff through their nostrils and seek either each other or the nearest piece of livestock for sexual satisfaction!
They are not pro-ISIS
They are anti-war.
How the fuck is that pro-ISIS.
Especially when Daesh’s explicitly stated agenda and objective is two fold:
Establishment of a Caliphate.
Conduct a war to expel, convert, or exterminate all non-Sunnis from Sunni territories. Worldwide.
So being against such a war is actually opposing ISIS goals.
Besides, regardless of their motives, they are accidentally correct anyway. The US has little to no capacity to defeat ISIS through a US led war effort. So their being against US involvement is not an unreasonable political position.
Have you seriously NEVER been to the fucking Middle East?
yes, I have been there. And probably had more direct experience interacting and meeting with locals than most people who have visited in uniform.
And I am certain a US or Western led effort cannot defeat ISIS on the ground.
An Arab or Islamic coalition sure as shit could.
But not a US led effort.
LOL What a joke. We did in a cordon and search in Baghdad in 2006. Finished up the day early and an Iraqi soldier was complaining about how heavy his plate carrier was, and was whining that we had lighter gear(IBA). Guy in our squad said ok we’ll swap, took off his IBA, outstreched his arms all the way at chest height, and then handed the IBA to the Iraqi soldier. The Iraqi soldier immediately fell forward and only caught himself when the IBA hit the ground.
You don’t know our enemy, you don’t know our potential allies, and you sure as shit don’t understand the deep rooted hatred people like ISIS have with us. There is no option not to engage them, there is only do they strike first or do we. Then it’s how much force do we use then? Right now I don’t consider us engaging them at all.
Thanks for the almost totally useless anecdote.
And I know a hell of a lot more about that region than you think. And I have more than a fucking anecdote that amounts to “this one time on patrol we had a whiney Iraqi soldier on patrol with us” to back up my understanding of the area.
Says the guy with the totally useless Political Economy degree.
CAREFUL CtG, he might be some badassed Gender Studies or underwater Basket Weaving major!!
Iraqis lack of body strength wasn’t rare, nor was their being whiny little bitches. I bet anyone doing cordon and searches with IA or IP has a similar story about whiny ass Iraqis.
You know, people said the same thing during WWII before Pearl Harbor was bombed. Please ask the Third Reich how that turned out. Oh, wait. You can’t. We took them out.
I do not think anyone seriously said the US could not defeat the Third Reich. It was clear, even at the time, that America would have a decisive advantage if it entered the war. One that would ultimately lead to a US led victory in Europe. Baring the development of game changing technology like Germany developing the bomb well before we did, or having the capacity to produce more jets earlier and quicker than they did. However, those two potentialities were not understood in 1941.
and Germany did not bomb Pearl harbor.
Prior to the U.S. having their hand forced by Japan, we could not have won against Germany. Our standing army was too small, we had too few ships, our Air Force was woefully under-maintained, and there were too many command officers with little experience and much connections. The only force that was anywhere near ready for any kind of extended action were the Marines.
American influence in the war was primarily aid ships to England. Even though they were being sunk by German U-boats, America still didn’t get overtly involved. The worst that America did was send experienced pilots over to help the RAF, but they were all volunteers only.
After Pearl Harbor was hit, America began a general draft and shifted almost all of our domestic resources to the war effort. The entire shape of the country changed overnight. Our first efforts were focused against Japan which had already spread almost to Australia. That first wave was pretty much only the Marines. The Navy, at Guadalcanal got their asses handed to them by the Japanese Imperial Navy.
Had Japan never attacked Pearl Harbor, America would have stayed isolationist. The Third Reich would control Europe and Japan would control the Pacific.
THe US would not have stayed isolationist. We intentionally forced Japan’s hand by trying to cut off their oil supply. We knew they would commit and act of war. There is some debate whether we knew they would attack Hawaii or some other target but we knew they would be forced to act against us and this is explicitly acknowledged in declassified and now publicly available communications. We already had chosen sides with the implementation and the expansion of the lend lease aid program. We were also providing safe haven for British ships in Iceland and escorting them between Iceland and the UK. We were planning to enter the war and waiting for the circumstances to allow it. Pearl Harbor was the proximal reason but it was not the only reason. We were going because it was clear we needed to go. We just had to have the circumstances necessary and we were intentionally setting those conditions by increasing our involvement and agreements with the UK and Russia and China.
And the War plans were drafted prior to Pearl Harbor. The US had drafted them already with the UK. The Germans had also planned our involvement and concluded it would lead to defeat unless they could get additional allies in South and Central America. The Japanese did as well but there was a split in Japanese leadership where some believed they could force us to stay out of the war if they sufficiently damaged our naval capacity before we could mobilize. THey underestimated US production. THe Germans, the Brits, and the US did not.
It was a well accepted conclusion based on a great deal of analysis by a great number of planners that US entry into the war would provide a decisive and insurmountable advantage to the Allied forces.
This stuff is all public record. There is little debate about how certain we were the Allies would win with our assistance.
Well, now THAT proves it: Lars the Infallible In His Own Opinion can’t read between the lines.
Empirically, he’s not real bright.
Lookie-here and try to ABSORB this before you comment, lars the dumb: I did NOT say the Pinksters were pro-ISIS.
YOU, however, because your egocentricity is so inflated that you can’t see past the end of your nose, INFERRED, that my simple statement (drop them off with ISIS) means that I in anyway think or believe that the Pinksters are pro-ISIS.
I DID NOT SAY THAT, YOU MORONIC EXCUSE FOR TOILET PAPER. NOT ONCE.
Is that simple enough for you, lars the dime? Or must I rephrase it so that somene with your level of comprehension (well below my 1952 2nd grade class) can understand what I said?
I simply made a statement. You decided it meant something that it did not. Ergo, you have proven what we all know – you’re not real bright, lars the dim, and not nearly as ‘intelligent’ as your pretentious self-promotional statements say you are, you stupid ass.
Now, who wants brownies? Oh! How could I miss that?!? I’ll serve some to the Pinksters. That should shut them up.
Commissar “The Troll”…
trolls do not put this much effort and time into their posts. The point of trolling is to get the other person to waste energy, time, and emotional capital dealing with the troll.
If I am trolling I am definitely doing it wrong.
Yup, Troll.
That’s just what a troll would say.
Code Pink isn’t anti-war; they’re for the other side. Like most committed leftists.
Code pink has disrupted speeches and fundraisers by Pelosi, Obama, and Hilary Clinton as well as other “leftist” politicians.
That’s the point. They’re a bunch of dumb hags. Anybody can scream that war is bad and peace is good. Where does that get you. You’re trying to make this some kind of political issue in terms of whom they’ve protested. It doesn’t matter. They’re not doing anything, much like yourself coming here running your suck. By the way, what are your thoughts about Code Pink trying to run the military recruiters out of Berkley a few years back, Berkeley boy?
Code Pink raised a half million USD and sent that money to support the “freedom fighters” of Falujah while our soldiers were directly engaged in fighting those very same jihadiscum.
My suggestion, Taylor, is that you take your lying bullshit, wrap it around something sharp and jagged and then jam it up into yourself.
Don’t call me a liar fucktard. You want to disagree fine. At best my information is in error but I am not lying in my posts. First, let me make it clear; I do not support Code Pink. I think they are a naive organization that attracts far too many nutjobs. However, they have also become a heavily politicized scapegoat for anger at some of the costs of war, both in blood and treasure. For instance your claim about them giving funds to Fallujah fighters in unsubstantiated. They raised money for refugees. THe money raised is impossible to track due track but given the fact that Fallujah was essentially destroyed it was a drop in the bucket and that money was dispersed well after the battle of Fallujah. And it was not the only money provided in aid to fallujah. In fact it was a tiny percentage of the funds fallujah received. I know of several incidents where US commanders intentionally authorized contracts with contractors we KNEW were probably connected with militants in order to help restore services in Fallujah. Nobody is calling those commanders traitors. And nobody is crying that they helped our enemy. Because like virtually every NGO in the area they faced an impossible task of trying to help Iraqis while avoiding helping our enemies who lived amongst them. Several NGOs provided aid to fallujah, before the first battle, between the battles, and after the second battle. Code Pink was not the only one. They were scapegoated for purely political reasons because there was US democrat congressman connected to the organization and the internal fucking political knife fights of our congress is more important to many of the shitbags in office than any attempt at truth or true national interest. And when people buy into their political bullshit it pisses me off. CODE PINK is not the enemy. At worst their a foolish nuisance. But their ideals should be voiced even if they are impossible because the reality is there is a shit ton of things we can be doing with our national wealth than using it… Read more »
Well, let’s see. The refugees were in an area controlled by the opposition. Aren’t you aware that money is fungible – e.g., a dollar provided by outside sources frees up another dollar to be used elsewhere, or can be diverted directly for other purposes?
Oh, wait – it appears you are. Because in your next sentence, you begin by saying the following:
The fact that Code Pink, with the assistance of leftward-leaning members of Congress, delivered $600k in what you admit was untrackable funding to persons in enemy-controlled areas is not in dispute. One would have to be terminally naive to believe that none of that funding was either (1) diverted to support directly enemy actions against US troops, or (2) used to free up funding from other sources originally to be used to support refugees that the enemy in turn used to support military activities against US troops.
Every third-grader knows the following: if they have a dollar and want to buy something costing a dollar (say, a candy bar) they will be broke afterwards. But if they can get Mom to give him/her a dollar, they can uses Mom’s dollar to buy their candy – and also keep their own dollar and use it to buy something else they want.
Have you really not yet mastered that simple concept and its implications yourself?
“Don’t call me a liar fucktard. You want to disagree fine. At best my information is in error but I am not lying in my posts.”
Anyone can call you a liar fucktard if they wish – it’s that freedom of expression thing. Your demand suggests exactly what you have been repeatedly told here. You actually seem to believe that your orders to do, or not do, something, to say, or not say, something has supremacy over another individual’s right to freely express themselves.
Wake up, Lars. In the real world out here, you just aren’t the dictator of what others may express. In spite of your protestations to the contrary, you aren’t really all that special, and most of us don’t think that we are either.
Code Pink never protests when Islamic or anti-western nations or groups attack the US or other western countries. They only protest when the US or western countries defend themselves from those attacks.
That’s why Israel and the US get protested, but the PLA, Islamic terrorists or other anti-western nations attacking the west get a pass.
Well if you have a state that has attacked the US or Western allies since CODE PINK was founded at the end of 2002 then let them know they dropped the ball.
I can’t think of a state they can protest for attacking the West or US allies.
How about Russia for annexing the Ukrainian Crimea? That’s just one. However, if you “can’t think of a state they can protest for attacking the West or US allies” then perhaps you are not trying hard enough. It is not for us to spoon feed you the facts you turn your nose up to.
The joy of free speech is that you can freely speak it. It’s not free speech except when someone is butt hurt over it.
We are freely able to have and post our opinions that we feel are right and based on facts. Likewise, you are freely able to have and post your opinions even though they are wrong and based on wistful thinking.
However, when you launch a strawman rhetorical question believing there is no possible answer, then you must accept when the serving of crow is placed in front of you with a nice Bordeaux.
Ukraine is not the West and it was a civil war before Russia “attacked.”
Really? You should probably read the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances then.
Nor was Ukraine an “ally.”
Come on, MAKE UP YOUR MIND, o little Santorum-frosted fartcake!!
Seems to me I recall Ukraine was trying to join NATO at one point.
Yes, I’m sure I read that somewhere….
You are correct. The Ukraine reportedly sought membership in NATO in 2008 (NATO declined), applied to join the NATO Membership Action Plan in 2008 anyway, and dropped non-aligned status last year.
Well holy shit Lars, I trained in the Ukraine in 1995 in a Partnership for Peace exercise. The Ukrainians were about as close to ally status as you could get without being an actual ally.
So lets look at the definition of ally Lars. I found this definition on the Oxford dictionary site:
ALLY: A state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose, typically by treaty.
Now the US had entered into a cooperative relationship with many of the former Soviet satellites in the late 80’s early 90’s which allowed us to train in their countries and for them to come train with us in the United States. If you look at the definition I provided, Ukraine was indeed an Ally.
So in summary. Fuck you.
We trained with the Russians (and the Soviets) in the partnership for peace program.
Did that make them allies?
They are neither a Western nation nor an ally. They are a nation that was divided on what kind of future allegiances they wished to forge.
That decision point created a civil war. Predictably, Russia is supporting separatists.
If you want to be pissed at anyone for not defending Ukraine then it should not be CODE PINK. It should be the West. After all, according to you, Ukraine was an ally.
Correction. I misremembered. The training exchange when Russia was still the Soviet Union was not part of partnership for peace. I do not recall the name. It was at the end of the cold war during the Perestroika are.
Put Russian did participate as part of Partnership for Peace in 1994. They were just no longer “Soviets.”
No Lars, the Russians did not participate in Partnership for Peace exercises. The purpose of the training was to work with the former Soviet satellite countries. To piss the Russians off and hold NATO membership out to the participating countries.
Furthermore, your posts make no sense.
Sorry, just trying to clarify but are you saying the Russians didn’t activly participate in the exercises? The Russians were members of the Partnership of Peace Program. There are currently 22 countries in the Partnership for Peace Program.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_82584.htm
Sorry, just trying to clarify but are you saying the Russians didn’t activly participate in the exercises? The Russians were members of the Partnership of Peace Program. There are currently 22 countries in the Partnership for Peace Program.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_82584.htm
Appolgies if this double posts. I messed up the email.
I trained in Ukraine in 1998 as part of a peacekeeping exercise. They wanted then to align themselves with the US and the West, in opposition to the Russians, whom they despise.
Quit making shit up, Lars, you’re very bad at arguing. It is a Putin has fomented and sponsored civil war in the Crimea, similar to how Hitler annexed Czechoslovakia.
Why are you defending the KGB turd, Putin? Are you a Commie that longs for the glory days of the USSR?
The Russians have always wanted Ukraine back for the farmland. Non-pro Russian Ukrainees hate the Russians for what they did to the Ukraine.
Quit defending Code Pinko, they are reprehensible and anti-US, anti-US Military, not anti-war.
I am not defending Putin.
He is a complete fucking sociopath. One of the most dangerous men in power anywhere in the world. And like all fucking sociopaths he is both incapable of predicting the long term consequences of his actions a narcissistically confident enough that he can deal with whatever problems his actions create.
I will stop ‘defending’ CODE PINK because it is not worth the rabid response it creates. I really just do not understand why hate for them is a political rallying call for the right.
They are a naive bunch of twits that are utterly irrelevant to international affairs.
What they stand for does not deserve the hate and what they actually accomplish (nothing) is not worth the time to hate.
Yet, the right frames them as an existential threat to our security and the future of our nation.
It is fucking nonsense.
Flag, why would you waste a good Bordeaux on a putz like lars the dumb?
Crow is better served with some coastal pink rose and a truly well-fermented Emmental or Livorat with the ability to diffuse quickly into the air, even in cold weather.
I hate politics
GOOD MORNING MERICA!
Good news we tracked somebody down and the guards are going tack away Bradley Manning’s smart phone today.
Any bets on when Lars “Fucking” Taylor starts posting again? Looks like he ran out of gas about 2:30 AM.
It appears that Fucking Taylor is now full of gas again.
These are YOUR words, larsthedimbulb.
‘Communism is not a “thing” anymore. It is a discarded idea as are most impractical, overly idealistic, or failed theories.’
Do you expect anyone at all to take you seriously when you say that?
Are you completely disconnected from the real, physical world?
Communism is alive and well, sport. Hugo Chavez was a communist whose efforts to destroy Venezuela’s economy succeeded admirably, first with his confiscation of the Venezeulan oil fields, and after that, everything else, including his vapid, incompetent attempts to create some sort of trade. Now the Venezuelans can’t even get freakin’ toilet paper, you imbecile.
Oh, and while I’m at it, Fidel Castro, the last living communist dictator from the Cold War, is still alive and kicking down in Cuba Linda. He just lets brother Raul run things, but tells him what to do. It’s a communist dictatorship, lars, you dumbass.
Lars the dim uses wiki as a source, but doesn’t access the cited sources on wiki: lazy, lazy, lazy lars. Do you do your term papers with wiki as your cited source? Such a toffee-nosed snot, he is. But I did finally figure out who he really is: he’s That Guy in the red & black buffalo plaid onesie in the Obamacare ad from last year. Remember that? I’m quite sure that’s him – the insufferable man-child. And yeah, lars, you are an insurfferable prig.
Lame. I am one of the few that actually tries to provide sources and check my facts.
It made much more sense to provide the wiki that listed all the sources rather than cut and paste each source individually. That way I also included the rankings that diverged from the consensus so I would not be accused of hiding those if I did not list them, or being accused of misleading if I provided them since they contradicted my claim.
I am posting facts.
And there are still monarchies as well, but the idea of a monarchy as a legitimate governance theory is a discarded idea you fucktard.
ANY governance theory is legitimate if it is accepted as legitimate by those governed, Lars. Your assertion to the contrary is noted, but does not constitute fact and does not negate that particular truth.
The fact that you chose to denigrate those who disagree with you is, however, evidence in favor of the theory that your are indeed an insufferable putz.
And regarding your assertion about Communism: if you want to see that particular philosophy of government in action, visit a Convent, Abbey, or religious Kibbutz. Those are run as effectively reasonably pure examples of Marx’s famous maxim: “From each according to his ability; to each according to his need.”
Two actively communist governments alive and well today are – wait for it!
Vietnam
Peoples’ Republic of China
Not North Korea – that’s an autocracy.
Monarchy is a discarded idea?
Tell that to Bhumibol Adulyadej, the 9th monarch of Thailand. I think he would seriously disagree with you that his monarchy is a discarded idea. Likewise, we have Margrethe II, the queen of Denmark, and Carl XVI Gustav, the reigning king of Sweden, and finally, Akihito, the emperor of Japan.
A constitutional monarchy is still a monarchy, not a discarded idea.
You do NOT know what you’re talking about.
In addition, if you want to keep changing the subject to suit your whims, you have to do your own homework. NO ONE HERE WILL DO IT FOR YOU, you lazy, smug, arrogant, jävla rövhål.
You are boring, boring, boring.
Don’t forget Jordan!
Fucktard? That’s the best you can do? Copy what other people said? Well, it clearly demonstrates that you haven’t ever had an original idea, but copied everyone around you.
But I’ll be fair: here’s your Big Chance to let us know just how brilliant you really are, if you can solve this problem: 3 and 7 carried to the 9th.
Go on, solve it.
This should be interesting.
He was kind of like a drunk in a bar waving a broken bottle while turning in a circle while screaming obscenities. Speaking of witch everybody is Irish on St Patties day.
Yes, and I have Irish soda bread to make – that, and shortbreads with green icing, corned beef in the crock pot, and a pot of Boston baked beans to make.
Sounds good as I dust off my crockpot.
Used mine last weekend.
I still have some moose in the freezer it will have to do for corn beef this year.
Moose? I don’t know what moose tastes like, but try brining it before you cook it. Corned beef is simply brined brisket.
I think somewhere there is a recipe for brining meat.