Remembering old IVAW friends
Since TSO is getting threatening phone calls from one of our old friends from IVAW, I thought I’d bring back memories by telling you what Adam Kokesh has been up to lately. I know I’ve mentioned that he was contemplating running for a Congressional seat in New Mexico next year, so for some reason he won’t be writing on his “Revolutionary Patriot” blog anymore and he’s focusing on the run. Here’s his new website;
He seems to be toning down his image a bit. Probably a good idea. But I went through his “About Adam” page and I can’t seem to find anything about the IVAW. He’s not ashamed is he?
He also mentions that he was promoted to sergeant – but he doesn’t mention that he was busted for smuggling an Iraqi pistol back from the war. He was a corporal when his term of service ended. We’ve already settled that.
He mentions some activism;
In addition to addressing the kind of suffering he experienced first-hand in Fallujah, he has organized to help veterans struggling with PTSD, railed against 4th Amendment violations, and stood up against the Federal Reserve.
Yes, he organized veterans to hang out in the IVAW clubhouse on Princeton Place, take xanax and gin, store their urine in a refrigerator, and engage in paranoid rants at the police. But I don’t think any of that is usually accepted as treatment for PTSD. But here’s a screenshot of the xanax and gin rant for posterity;
He doesn’t mention that he dropped hate literature all over the GWU campus trying to frame a conservative student group. Of course, he skated on that charge. Just like he’s skated on all of his antics. Probably because of Daddy’s money.
I don’t see any mention of Karaoke night with Code Pink, either. Or his arrest in DC for putting up posters after he was ordered not to put up posters by a DC cop.
He does mention his discharge though – except that he says his discharge was “Honorable”, when actually it was “General under honorable conditions”.
I’m beginning to think that Kokesh is embarrassed by the truth about his past.
Category: Antiwar crowd, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Phony soldiers, Usual Suspects
Yeah, I figured I would roll the threat phone calls into a post about pseduononymous blogging and outings. Its all part of the same animal, but dipshit thinks I publish semi-anonymously for fear of having my name outted, which I never feared.
Has Kokesh figured out which party he is going to run as? Considering he has Ron Paul’s support, I assume it is under the Crazy Troofer Conspiracy Nut Party. This seems in line with his urine collection habits.
” But I don’t think any of that is usually accepted as treatment for PTSD. ”
That is because you deliberately slanted the article by omitting the fact that he also solemnly rang the little brass bell of Peace and Healing for the suffering vets.
In between tokes.
“(s-s-s-s-s-s-t)… Like…peace, bro…power to tha peeps… ( hakka hakka hakka hak)”
Unless he runs as a true lefty moonbat Democrat, he doesn’t stand a chance in NM’s 3rd CD. For those unfamiliar, think Santa Fe, Taos, etc…the loons too nutty for California.
Okay, I’m confused. Are y’all getting calls from DeWald or Kokesh?
Jonn wrote: Which one do you think is more likely to threaten us?
That kind of non-response makes me wonder if anyone is threatening you.
Want me to send you the email I just got?
I’m not responding yet because I am trying to decide whether to go to law enforcement or not.
If you want to forward the email, feel. I’d like to have a friendly conversation with you off-line anyway if you’re game.
Please…like there’s even a choice. Besides, I heard that all the necro-Vikings this summer are wearing stainless bracelets with corresponding orange jump suits.
Oh, go to the police. No reason to wait until the dude totally flips his lid (no pun) and shoots abunch of orphans at the zoo.
It was I who called you at your K Street HQ today, TSO. Ha-ha! Good luck getting the Svenska Polis to care about your problems! And remember what I said when we spoke: “KEEP MY NAME OFF YOUR BLOG OR WE SETTLE UP IN PERSON.”
Sweden?
Do they even have a football team?
Evan Knappenberger:
Unfortunately your name is not a trademarked item and bloggin is a form of media. Deal with it. It’s best to ignore these things and not give them anything to talk about. Thus your name stays off the blog.
Or, you can be assured that there will be plenty to talk about if you act like an ass an threaten people (again.) Isn’t that a violation of your probation anyway?
Jonn wrote: Did you get my email? The one I sent you last week bounced back, so I’m just wondering.
Oh, you hush up! You’re just jealous of all the trim these brave leftist REAL veterans get.
It’s supposed to be all love, sweat, and tears here folks! Skittles and Rainbows for all!
Too bad Mr ”I threaten those I love” can’t come clean. I’d crush him like the roach he is. He’s treading VERY dangerously into Mr Wolf territory- and he cannot compete there…
Mr Wolf
Mr. Wolf, it is you who should come clean, you dirty liar. That is not even your real name. I know what it is, traitor. One day soon I shall tell. Hee-hee.
Have any of you all ever spent any serious time listening to and providing support to family members of Iraq vets who have blown their head off, or otherwise committed suicide? Or perhaps the surviving family members of their victims? If so, is there anything you learned from the experience? One of the things that being involved in the antiwar movement did do is occasionally put me in direct contact with grieving family members, whether it was a death in Iraq, or a death after returning home.
If some of the Iraq vets – IVAW or not – stumble around a bit as they search for a path to move on in a more positive way, isn’t it better to support them for whatever healthy things they do find, rather than the continual denigration for mistakes they may have made? Can there not be some understanding, some forgiveness, some covering of one another’s sins?
I hope a way can be found to move beyond the negativity and criticism on all sides. I think it is very damaging. My prayer for all Iraq and Afghanistan vets is for internal healing and for an end to come to the blood being spilled, to the destructive behavior (and it does occur sometimes even with the best of them), whether it is in Iraq, Afghanistan, or right here at home.
Debbie, yes, yes we have.
And we take it quite seriously. And when the guys have legit problems, we try to help them. But when they slime all of us with lies, would you have us simply stand back and yell Ole!?
#17, Debbie, I thought the election of the 0 would take care of all that? You know, unicorns, everyone loving everyone, yadda yadda.
Maybe you could point out “whatever healthy things” Carl, or Karl Webb has done? Just for starters?
Danish-
GO ahead, asshat. Many have tried, few have succeeded. Euro trash…
Deb- as someone who’s own kin has committed such suicide, let me know how I can help…
Mr Wolf
Well, TSO, this blog post was mainly about Adam Kokesh and how terrible you all think he is – his emotional instability, mixing Xanax and gin and all. What has Adam Kokesh ever done to you? Do you not think that if he was doing stuff like that, it may be indicative that he has been struggling a bit to find his way? Why do you have to keep picking on him? I imagine he can probably handle it okay, but it just seems so relentless. He’s just a young man, he’s served his country (yes, I know about the Iraqi weapon; please don’t tell me the story again), and you all are kind of old, aren’t you? Can’t you give him a little more of a break? Personally, I think he’s doing a fine job and in any event, I certainly don’t expect anyone to be perfect.
I’m glad to hear that you have at least some empathy for the young’ens, even though you apparently don’t deem Adam Kokesh to be worthy of your support.
Maybe you should give that Ole! thing you were talking about a try sometime, just to see what happens…he-he…
#19 UpNorth, for the last time, I AM NOT A FRICKING LIBERAL!! I am a former conservative Republican who has been a Libertarian since the early ‘90’s (and registered as a Republican anyway, up until I moved to Florida last fall). Please reserve your comments about the O to people like Medea Benjamin, who might have more appreciation of them, and try to remember who I am, that I am NOT a liberal, and I did NOT vote for Obama. I have said all along that Obama is going to be no better than Bush on either foreign or domestic policy and potentially worse, since now Bush has signed in all these fricking executive orders and has put us about a hair’s breadth away from martial law being declared. Oh how lovely, now we’ve got a fricking liberal Democrat in the White House to carry on the police state that BUSH STARTED. WHEN are you guys going to get a clue???!!! Now I suppose Homeland Security’s going to be putting a wiretap on my phone…Oh, wait, they started that several years ago… On Carl Webb or Karl Webb, I thought this post was about Adam Kokesh, not the Communist Carl Webb, who is not an Iraq vet. The only healthy thing that Carl Webb has ever done that I can think of is that after calling him out for being a Communist and advising him to read Ludwig von Mises book, “Human Action” (which is about free-market economics), he has since been posting information about von Mises and other free-market oriented stuff to my Facebook Wall, without – and this is the important part – WITHOUT any rude or critical comments. He asked me if Adam Kokesh is a Libertarian, too, and I answered, yes, and he said nothing more. Then he posted something else Libertarian-oriented to my Wall, apparently just to let me know he’s doing his research now. Of course, it could be that he is now calculating how it might advance the Communist cause by helping to support the Libertarian Revolution, and then the Communists taking it… Read more »
Debbie: Adam Kokesh is running for political office. If he can’t take the criticism leveled at him by an internet blogger, then he hasn’t got the fortitude for politics. He can’t have it both ways, where he is able to duck behind the youngster monicker when the heat is on and then espouse about mature things when the mood hits him. If he wants a seat at the grownup table, then he better be ready for it.
We were all young, once, yet we were doing grownup things, making grownup decisions, because even though we were young, we were still adults.
You don’t strike me as a republican, certainly not conservative, by your posts. If you are a libertarian, as you say, then you are closer to the left edge, based on your posts and that’s just my perception and opinion.
#20 Mr. Wolf, I’m very sorry to hear about a loss in your family to suicide. I don’t know what can be done to help. I’m trying to figure that out myself, while at the same time holding my own life together and putting my own family first. My original idea was to complete my BS degree and then go into a Masters degree program in Mental Health Counseling so I could work with vets with PTSD. However, then I got a job, which I was surprised to get with the current economy (that 5-point veterans preference actually works…) which was after I quit my previous job in Georgia and moved to Florida to be close to my daughter and grandbaby while my son-in-law goes through Navy pilot training. But now my new job consumes a great deal of my time along with commuting and I don’t have much energy left for school after that because I want to spend my time with my family, especially my little grandson. And I have another grandbaby coming in September, so I definitely do not want to be busy with other things instead. I don’t know if I will be able to handle any more classes for quite a while (as far as my personal ideas went for trying to figure out how to help vets with PTSD). I’m afraid by the time I ever get as far as getting a Master’s degree in Mental Health Counseling, I will be too old and senile. Anyway, I learn through my own family and the time is going to come when my son-in-law is going to be deployed and I plan (hope) to be there to support my daughter and grandchildren during that time, as well as give moral support to my son-in-law (he is an awesome guy). Make a long story short, I don’t have any answers right now and don’t know the way, but I’m keeping myself open to the possibilities and ways that I can be of help, first in my own family, and beyond that, as called. So that’s the best… Read more »
OldTrooper,
I’m against the war. That is not an exclusively leftist position. On every issue, I am Libertarian, much of which cross-sects with true Conservatism. If you can’t recognize that, then you don’t know what true Conservatism is. But then, there are so few left, that would be of no surprise.
Helpful suggestion for Mrs. Clark, no one reads comments that are longer than the post…
Sorry to some posting here, but just because you served in the military or in a combat zone does not automatically make you above reproach. Yea, the majority of those I served with were great people, but there were some real losers and criminals. These idiots with the anti-war movement that act like if you support fighting for your country your’e pro-war is also disturbing. Maybe, we should disband the military as well as police departments and just give peace a chance. Well until we’re attacked again or someone commits a crime against you.
Thank you for the suggestion, Caroline. I’m not very good at brevity and am usually even misunderstood. I think I will just go to bed.
Thank you for the suggestion, Caroline. I’m not very good at brevity and am usually even more misunderstood. I think I will just go to bed.
Debbie Clark, I’m against how we’re wasting lives and resources trying to hand democracy on a platter for lazy people I could care less about in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should have invaded Afghanistan in ’01 killed as many Al Quaeda as possible and set up a presence in the Hazara territories and launched forays against Al Quaida to kill them as needed. However, I cannot join an organization like IVAW because they are chock full of god damned commies. Not all IVAW are reds, but too many are & I’m not down with Marx or Lenin. In just about every communist revolution, the reds rounded up people who assisted them and wiped them out, ie. like what happened to the Menshiviks after the Bolsheviks took over Russia. The non communist members in IVAW ought to ponder that pesky factoid.
Good on you to mention Mieses, politically, I’ve gone Anarcho-Capitalist.
Debbie Clark, I’m against how we’re wasting lives and resources trying to hand democracy on a platter for lazy people I could care less about in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should have invaded Afghanistan in ’01 killed as many Al Quaeda as possible and set up a presence in the Hazara territories and launched forays against Al Quaida to kill them as needed. However, I cannot join an organization like IVAW because they are chock full of god damned commies. Not all IVAW are reds, but too many are & I’m not down with Marx or Lenin. In just about every communist revolution, the reds rounded up people who assisted them and wiped them out, ie. like what happened to the Menshiveks after the Bolsheviks took over Russia. The non communist members in IVAW ought to ponder that pesky factoid.
Good on you to mention Mieses, politically, I’ve gone Anarcho-Capitalist.
JuniorAG, I’m very happy to hear that, and surprised to hear it in this forum. I totally agree with you.
Hey! Knappenberger! Nice to see your still holed up at Whatcom College, Bellingham, WA.
http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/399345_evanonline10.html
Say, I almost forgot something…How’d that *flash-bang* threat you made for Winter Crybabies 2 work out for ya? Thought you caught a long stretch in Whatcom County Correctional for that one…
They release you early for becoming a born again good felon?
TSO, treat that threat as real, report it and let the fed’s and State of Washington have at his buoy butt.
Get yourself a CCW permit, a Colt Defender .45ACP (don’t carry anything less than .4 in caliber)load your clips with alternating rounds of ball and hollow point.
Then get a Mossberg Model 88 12 ga for home & as a secondary. Load it with Western Express #1 & #00 rounds.
streetsweeper:
That sounds like some thing I would say!!
Dutch 508: Do they even have a football team?
No, but I hear they have an AWESOME bikini team. I’ll watch that any day. Reruns even.
Debbie: Please don’t presume to lecture me on whether I know what a true conservative is, sweetie, because I was conservative when conservative wasn’t cool. Republicans, these days, aren’t what I would call conservative, which is why I’m not one. I have gone to your web site, I have read most of your entries here and the common thread that I see running through all of it is the same exact meme that the left uses. Since you are against the war, which one is open for debate, since most of the anti-war crowd, that were against Iraq, are now against Afghanistan. Are you against all war, or are you particular about which ones you are going to protest? Are you particular about which people get to live in oppression and which ones you feel it’s worth liberating? I’m not being a smartass, I would really like to know. I want to know if you think that allowing people self determination rather than dictatorial oppression by the government is a worthy cause, while doing ourselves a favor and taking out one of the financiers of terrorists? To be honest, I was firmly against our messing with Iraq at that time. I felt that we needed to secure Afghanistan first, before anything else. However, the time spent looking at the situation and carefully considering all the crap that Saddam was pulling, without regard to his own people, helped me resolve my differences with the administration. Once we were there, then it became a matter of supporting the mission. Once the mission is over, which the draw down will begin on a timetable that was originally proposed by Bush, then we can argue the merits. The part that really pisses me off is these chuckleheads that all of a sudden get a conscience and decide that they aren’t going to fulfill their obligation that they voluntarily signed up for, with many of them signing up after 9/11 or March of 2003. You talk about martial law and all, however, just what exactly are you referring to? You talk about helping Veterans and… Read more »
I like cheese.
Sniper de fromage.
Sniper de fromage? Oui!
Vive L’Poilu!
Old Trooper, A more complete response will have to wait until later, but for a quick off-the-cuff reply, I can tell you first of all that I do NOT define conservatism (nor libertarianism, as I am actually a libertarian with only some things in common with conservatives, not all things) by one’s support for the war. I do not equate militarism with conservatism. My conservative values are rooted in individual rights and family values. While philosophically, I have more of a free-market anarchist bent, as JuniorAG mentioned, for as long as we must have a government, I believe in support and defense of the US Constitution (as intended by the Founders, not as interpreted by activist judges), and as small and lean of government as possible, one which stays OUT of people’s business except for when there is a compelling state interest. And I would define a compelling state interest far different than what the government seems to define it as. It sounds to me like you equate war and militarism with conservatism, which is probably because of spending too much time in the military and not enough time farming. My blog, The Seasoned Goddess, though I do put the link to it here, was never really intended as anything more than family stuff and whatever I happen to be interested to write about at any given moment. It was started fairly recently and I don’t think I’ve ever even posted anything there regarding my political views, other than a screed re-posted from Facebook regarding my opposition to socialized medicine. So I don’t really know what you’re referring to there as being typical left-wing stuff other than antiwar stuff (which, again, can also be found in some quarters on the right as well). I do admire your work with veterans and would be interested in doing that. I did visit an Iraq vet at the VA hospital in Decatur early on and tried to help him as much as I could. I’ve never known of any other ones there since then, otherwise I would have visited them, too, if they… Read more »
Ms. Clark, a 475 word response is off the cuff?
What is your favorite pie?
Over the past several years I have had the honor and pleasure of getting to know to Debbie. As she says, she is a Libratarian and (having been in the afore mentioned heated discussion) cannot be easily mistaken for a liberal.
The United States was never intended to be the world’s police force. Nor do we have the right to tell the rest of the world how it should live. Moreover, we seem to only be interested in the dictators that it is convenient to depose. We were more interested in working with Pakistan rather than deposing the dictator. We helped Iraq during the Iran/Iraq War and ised Iranian air space during OEF. Yet we deposed Saddam and labled Iran part of an Axis of Evil.
The fact of the matter is that military action is easier than diplomacy and thus, we are inclined to use it. Iraq posed, at best a limited threat. We took our eyes off the ball in Afghanistan and attacked a country that did not pose an imminent threat.
Brown neck gaitor – Sorry, I’m just not very good at short, quick responses. Even a quick response turns out long. I’ve been trying to correct this deficiency for a long time. They tried to train me how to give sound bites in interviews and I failed miserably. I guess I’ll never be president.
Charlie,
Libratarian? Was that a Freudian slip or did you really earn a college degree with that bad of spelling?
😀
I’ve got to say that I really enjoy reading all these blogs and comments. Especially when they get off topic. I most admit that, I wasn’t real thrilled about us going into Iraq but mainly for two reasons 1) felt it was a bad strategic move and that 2) we would drop the ball in Afghanistan. When we backed Saddam in the 80s he was the “lesser of two evils” and was keeping Iran at bay. You know the enemy of my enemy …Once boots hit ground in Iraq it was game on, as far as I was concerned. Especially since I had a valued interest as far as a deployed daughter (twice), a son in law and a nephew there. Sorry just a little ramblings from an old broke down tanker/biker. Oh! and what the frak is a Freemarket Anarchist? Someone who shoplifts from Wal-mart or just an opportunistic bastard? Just wondering because I have no idea.
ssgDirtyAl,
I used the term “free-market anarchist” in a casual sense because I personally prefer the term “free-market” to the term “capitalism” and the reason for that is because capitalism has really never been pure capitalism in the US; it has always been mixed with government, which is the problem. JuniorAG used the more common term “anarcho-capitalist,” which in the modern era can be traced to Murray Rothbard. However, I don’t know how much of an anarchist Rothbard really was since I believe he also worked for the government (it was a philosophical thing). In any event, the term “anarchy” here is really totally different than what is generally viewed as anarchism, which based on the anarchists I have met in the antiwar movement, is really nothing remotely like what a libertarian anarchist would embrace (in my personal observation). I personally view it more as a philosophical orientation rather than as a practical political philosophy. Kind of like believing in Jesus when you’ve never seen him in the flesh and blood.
Ah…I have to leave for work now!
Debbie: Just to let you know, my conservatism isn’t rooted in militarism at all. I believe in smaller government, less government intrusion in our lives, more free market capitalism, more personal responsibility, strong national security, etc. You could say I follow the Reagan conservative model.
As for VSO’s, well, you wouldn’t get worked over for your views of the war, because there are those that are opposed to the war within the org, but the organization isn’t about the war, it is about the Veterans, their famuilies, and the community. If you would like, I’ll connect with you on WLF and give you more information.
Not to beat a dying horse, but you know some of these discussions that drift off topic would be great things to move to the forum. I’m not complaining, I’m just sayin’…
Good point, Jonn. That’s why I suggested to Debbie that we take our discussion off line.
OldTrooper,
Sounds like we’re actually quite similar. My biggest complaint about conservative Republicans is that there is a serious gap between the rhetoric and the reality.
Yes, please connect with me on WLF. I’m sleep deprived right now, but I would also like to follow up on my own blog on some of the questions you raised regarding my thoughts on the wars and we can carry on as lengthy of a conversation there as we like. (I’ve been carrying on a conversation there with MasterSpork now since May 21 – please feel free to jump in there as well.)