California Proposes to Seal Criminal Records
According to UPI, a proposal is underway to seal all criminal records for those in California.
A proposal making its way through the California Assembly would automatically seal low-level criminal records — part of a growing effort by several states to give offenders a better chance at reform.
The bill would affect millions of Californians whose prior rap sheets present significant social obstacles. AB 1076 would ensure the automatic secrecy of records for certain offenders who have completed their sentences. If passed, the law would take effect Jan. 1, 2021.
It’s is called… you guessed it – “Clean Slate.” It’s not really a clean slate, it just really means the public can’t see it. So if you ever wonder if that person you are hiring for odd jobs around the house ran a meth lab or was convicted of armed robbery, this should now put you at ease. Out of sight, out of mind.
I believe in second chances along with the next person, it is not about that. This feels like you are not given an option and are working blind, so you can’t even brag about giving someone a second chance.
On the other hand, it’s California, so what? California likes to feel as if they set the precedence for the rest of the country.
It is helpful to know if there is a deeper issue with Stolen Valor cases. If passed, this may no longer be an option for looking at the background for people in California that commit Stolen Valor.
Category: Crime
Voters?
Yes, and of the D-rat variety. D-rats will stoop to any low they can in order to stay in power.
Even for background investigations for a TS/SCI (or whatever) clearance? Brilliant!
/sarc
Curious how this will affect NICS….
That was my first thought. What’s the point of background checks, universal or otherwise, if you can’t see what’s in somebody’s background? Then again, leftism runs on contradictions.
If kalifia bans all guns it will not affect it.
Weren’t Calfornians the ones squealing the loudest about incomplete info being loaded into the NICS data base? So now they downgrade felonies and want to seal those same records?
Sounds like a backdoor attempt to say ‘well, if your records can’t be complete you can’y buy a gun’ – whammo, gun control by fiat!
So now being convicted of intentionally infecting someone with AIDS won’t be a felony AND it won’t be public. That state feels like it might be doomed.
But they don’t want ‘illegals’ in their sanctuary cities!
No, they don’t want Trump’s illegals in. Or really any in their zip code. It’s blatant hypocrisy and the Dems are caught flat footed, so they fall back on, “Orange man bad!”
Starting to ring hollow, hmmm?
California is slowly segregating itself from the union. Well, if that’s what they want, who am I to stand in their way. I will gladly help speed them on their way and wish them a pleasant journey!
Yep. They bought their own ticket to the middle of nowhere, let them ride that long black train all the way to the bitter end. They better not whine about the consequences when it reaches the end of the track only to crash and burn. Its not like everyone did not try to warn them. They unwisely chose to ignore those warnings, even having the nerve to scoff at them. They can fall for all I care. They brought it on themselves.
It’s like a glacier ‘calving’ where everything from huge bergs to bergie-bits and all sizes in between part company, and start drifting where the winds and currents dictate. It’s pretty spectacular to watch, but you don’t want to get in the way.
Great analogy! Spot on.
And independent socialist California is an existential threat to the USA and cannot be permitted.
That is the USA, and we have a moral obligation to protect the loyal Americans who live there, even if the become less that 50 percent of the counted votes.
This is not a democracy, it is a Constitutional republic, and no one gets to vote to disenfranchise US citizens.
No.
Exactly.
Plus, any California secession would be faced with the immediate counter secession of at least half, if not more, of California’s counties a la West Virginia in 1861.
This bill supposedly limits the subject crimes to lower level offenses. But Commiefornia’s Penal Code already allows some felonies to be converted to misdemeanors upon completion of parole and/or probation. So for example, a certain disbarred attorney (no, not Bernasty) was able to have his felony fraud and document forgery convictions committed against his clients to be reduced to misdemeanors. His records would then be sealed under this bill’s provisions. So if it passes, stolen valor thieves with criminal convictions will have their records sealed so the poser exposers can’t see them.
Lowering the standard is the worst method to achieve compliance.
(granted its not compliance here but you get the meaning)
This will come back to bite somebody on the ass.
Popcorn?
It’s too embarrassing when criminals commit crimes having been released early from prison 10 times so they just want to escape all blame for enabling most criminals to commit crimes again. That is what it’s really about also why do criminals get all the benefits now days while average Joe gets shit? All of these job training programs for criminals is the most fuck you our government is doing these days minus literally releasing illegals to kill citizens. It feels like following laws is for suckers now.
Once again I am off subject;but I just read the latest on this Seal Gallager.want to talk about stolen valor;in my eyes if he did what they say he disgraces us all.I have stories as Im sure everyone on this site has of some bad shit,officers and enlisted,but this guy.Im not going to say any more,to much right now
Go away. You strike me as kind of a dumb ass and you never seem to post anything remotely related to the topic under discussion. You’re not related to our beloved Commissar by any chance?
He may be his semi-literate mildly retarded brother from another mother.
This may be ShItGeNfElD posting under a new handle now that I think about it.
*Snaps to*
Attention to Orders!
Yef is hereby relieved from buffer duty. Synloy un will now be tasked with this critical mission. Effective date, 16 April 2019.
Habeeb is dead,
Long live Habeeb!
(If anyone gets the Habeeb reference I’ll be shocked.)
The proggies are well on their way to “dystopia” and their answer to their failings is “hide it”.
Someone is reading Chairman Mao, and others. When California becomes ungovernable, they intend to finish the Shining Path to the Radiant Future.
No slave state, chattel or socialist, can long endure next to a Free state. They will have to conquer or die. We do not need an iron curtain country glued to us like a tick.
Or worse.
No.
No living Kennedy’s were immediately available for comment.
Yeah stranger a dumbass in your world.Calley ho to you from My lai synlow
Seriously, dude. Back away from the antifreeze cocktails and paint chips.
Damn, you’re dumb…
You’re more brain damaged than a PhD grad from UC Berzerkely!!!
What about the permanent record our teachers warned us about? Will they also be sealed?
And drunk driving convictions cannot be sealed.
Just try to cross the Canadian border without them knowing about it. You will not be allowed in without paying a fee equal to the original fine.
When one notices that the other Progressive idea is to decriminalize “minor” property crimes, like theft and burglary of “small” dollar values, you see a looming storm.
If there is no record and no jail time, why not?
The warped thinking is that people only commit crimes because they must, or because oppression. Take away the stigma and sting, provide lavish social welfare, and folks will settle down and behave themselves.
Of course, the geniuses that most espouse this insanity live in gated communities, with private security, and nowhere near their supposed beneficiaries.
This will not end well.
There’s a newly elected DA in MA (Suffolk County) who is doing just that. 15-20 crimes her office won’t prosecute, including larceny up to $250, resisting arrest, and drug possession with intent to distribute.
Guess what the crime rate is doing there now?
Listend to her being interviewed live on the Howie Carr Show last week.
She also will not prosecute illegals if they are deportable. Even in rape cases.
She’s after Maura Healy’s job as AG.
Another MA pol that’s about as useful as a football bat.
Or rubber lips on a Woodpecker.
Or we could just end the drug war and that would eliminate the need for a shit ton of current prisoners and convictions.
If the drug war wasn’t such a massive fucking failure perhaps we might consider the constant loss of civil and property liberties to be acceptable.
So far the only thing the drug war has done for the United States is to provide a profit center for human misery for the private prison industry.
If we are indeed the “greatest” nation on earth with “freedom” for all perhaps we might consider what freedom actually means.
When you need the fucking SCOTUS to tell you that it’s not right to take an 80,000 car for a 10,000 fine without paying the owner the difference I think there’s no question how fucked up the drug war is and what it’s done to the concepts of liberty in this nation.
The same lines of dialogue used to justify prohibition of alcohol are used for drugs with the same predictable outcomes.
If you want to lessen murders in this country you don’t need to eliminate black rifles, just end the drug war.
We won’t because we are a bunch of frightened little pussies these days, we stopped being a freedom loving people at least 60 years ago. We’ve become progressively less free with each passing year since.
Or you could actually fight a drug war – mandate the death penalty for dealers and repeat offenders, treatment for first time offenders – had we done that when the problem was small the situation and the cartels have grown to unmanageabiity like now, we would have had a chance. If we treated alcohol like we have treated drugs, we’d be drinking Scotch for breakfast.
Except a free people don’t require permission from their government to do what they want with their own body.
Crime is only when an action by someone damages someone else or someone else’s property. When you make doing something to yourself a crime you are saying no citizen owns their body.
Once you head down that path you end up like the United States today where the government even claims to own the rain that hasn’t landed on your property yet.
That’s not freedom, it’s about as far from freedom as you can get.
I had a young nephew that died of a drug overdose. This does not make me more qualified to talk about this but it does make my opinion a little more emotionally fueled.
They found the guy that sold him the drugs and he is currently doing a prison sentence. It is not a victimless crime. These people that deal ruin the lives of others.
I hear what you are saying but I don’t think one can look at the casual end user doing some recreational drug. It looks innocent. If you look at the larger picture, it gets more complicated.
I have seen guys sell weed and the next logical step is to acquire a handgun so they don’t get jacked. People find out where they live and that invites burglary… so forth and so on.
Again, I understand what you are saying but it is more complicated.
We learned some lessons when prohibition ended, drinking of hard spirits went down and more moderate drinking of beer and wine increased. Largely because of the nature of smuggling and black market goods. Smaller more concentrated product is easier to transport and smuggle.
Drugs in higher concentrations used after drugs in lower concentrations are often what causes the overdose issue.
Your beer and alcohol is produced consistently by licensed manufacturers.
It’s really not more complicated.
Your relative died due to bad product. De-criminalized or legalized product can be produced with a consistency and can be tested. Society wins if we stop treating this as a criminal issue and start treating this as a public health issue. Treatment intervention and stable product creates a safer public health situation. Removing the massive profit margins currently being fought over by drug gangs reduces the violence inherent in the smuggling and black market business.
We lost the drug war, that’s a fact. Your relative died because of piss poor public policy. The answer isn’t surrendering your rights it’s addressing this issue for what it is.
Job interview: I notice you have a two-year period blank on your application.
Interviewee: So?
A: That’s when I was hiking/climbing the Tibetan highlands with all of my worldly possessions strapped to my yak.
Q: Says here that you are an expert at making toilet wine.
HR: So you’re applying for a job as a fabricator. What experience do you have?
Applicant: Uh, shanks mostly.
The article suggests records won’t be sealed to law enforcement or investigative agencies, just not public. If it passes, I suspect employers that can afford it will hire P.I.s to conduct background checks for them.
On the other hand, what degree of nonviolent crimes will be “sealed” but is still a disqualifying factor to purchase a firearm? The whole argument falls apart.
Career criminals with a lengthy record of “less serious” or “non-violent” crimes might have their records expunged, but I suspect they’ll continue to be criminals.
Once previous convictions are sealed from the public, does that mean records for a string of new convictions won’t be?
Man,I sure inspire a lot of hate without even trying.Thanks guys.All I can say i s “Synloy Co”ha ha
Calling out someone for being a dumbass isn’t “hate”. It’s merely people calling you out for being a dumbass.
Nice try though.